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    Just watching this on Sky Sports 1.

    Some of the Utd fans phoning in and ridiculing Utd are apalling. They are moaning about not having a good enough midfield and how they need to get rid of this player or that player even criticising Ferguson.

    I'm an Arsenal fan and I hate Utd but credit is due to a wonderful season, Utd have won the CC and the Prem on merit (Scousers may argue otherwise lol) and I find this criticism harsh.

    I do feel they missed Fletcher alo tonight.
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    They do need a midfield desperately though, they haven't got any drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakz View Post
    Just watching this on Sky Sports 1.

    Some of the Utd fans phoning in and ridiculing Utd are apalling. They are moaning about not having a good enough midfield and how they need to get rid of this player or that player even criticising Ferguson.

    I'm an Arsenal fan and I hate Utd but credit is due to a wonderful season, Utd have won the CC and the Prem on merit (Scousers may argue otherwise lol) and I find this criticism harsh.

    I do feel they missed Fletcher alo tonight.
    Man United have won more in the last decade than some clubs ever win in their histories.

    Allow complaining about it (as much as I like poking fun) they are a very good team
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    Quote Originally Posted by curphey View Post
    They do need a midfield desperately though, they haven't got any drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hij View Post
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    fletcher would have done fuck all, hargreaves is who they needed

    also how anyone can moan after that barca performance is beyond me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webstarr View Post
    fletcher would have done fuck all, hargreaves is who they needed

    also how anyone can moan after that barca performance is beyond me
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    The banter in the pub was next level, punches were nearly thrown at my Arsenal mate who kept shouting Thierry Henry lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webstarr View Post
    fletcher would have done fuck all, hargreaves is who they needed

    also how anyone can moan after that barca performance is beyond me
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    dunno if hargreaves would of done anything either.

    man utd not have a great season, dont get it twisted

    they know how to win, and thats what they do.

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    i have been saying for a while that UTD, as dominant as they have been in England the last couple of seasons aren't as strong as people make out.

    That said, they were whooped by a better team who played with more freedom and expression. it's easy to say they should have done this or that, but they didn't and they were soundly beaten. It could easily have been 3 or 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daspecimen View Post
    i have been saying for a while that UTD, as dominant as they have been in England the last couple of seasons aren't as strong as people make out.

    That said, they were whooped by a better team who played with more freedom and expression. it's easy to say they should have done this or that, but they didn't and they were soundly beaten. It could easily have been 3 or 4.
    What are you talking about?
    They are by far the secon best team in the world and they got outplayed by the only team capable of doing so

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    Quote Originally Posted by (And Its) T!!!! View Post
    What are you talking about?
    They are by far the secon best team in the world and they got outplayed by the only team capable of doing so
    Well they're not are they. How can they be far better then Liverpool and get hammered 1-4 in their own back yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (And Its) T!!!! View Post
    What are you talking about?
    They are by far the secon best team in the world and they got outplayed by the only team capable of doing so
    best defence in the world

    not the best team imo.

    liverpool and chelsea could both be in that final still instead of man utd

    there campaigns have not been spectacular, just efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (And Its) T!!!! View Post
    What are you talking about?
    They are by far the secon best team in the world and they got outplayed by the only team capable of doing so
    Defensively they are strong. REALLY strong. Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans is a centre half trio that rivals most in the world......In Brown, Neville, Rafael, Fabio, Evra, O'Shea they have an abundance of full backs. As well as that, they have too many sick goal keepers.

    Up front no one can question the quality of Ronaldo, Tevez, Berbatov and Rooney although next season will be a teller for those four (or three is tevez leaves)

    In midfield however I think they are actually pretty week. IMO Anderson is one of the best midfielders in the country, despite his "performance" last night but above and beyond that I don't think there's anything to write home about. They have players like Giggs, Scholes, Fletcher and Park who can do a job but are not world class players by any stretch.

    Just my opinion still, but I think they could do a lot of strengthening.

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    Don't really want to comment, but if more teams had a go rather than just bending over against the Mancs they'd drop more points.
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    Vidic has been shown up to an extent against Barca and Liverpool. I agree with Hij about the attitudes of teams to the bigger clubs.

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    Also, I like Park, Carrick and even Fletcher, but Anderson has been shit this year. I thought he looked ok last year, but its hard to see what he brings to the table that others don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quality View Post
    Also, I like Park, Carrick and even Fletcher, but Anderson has been shit this year. I thought he looked ok last year, but its hard to see what he brings to the table that others don't.
    Ferguson seems to like players with pace. I think its because Anderson hassles oppostion players, is speedy with a bit of skill.

    And if you can risk £16m on a player like that, your laughing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hij View Post
    Ferguson seems to like players with pace. I think its because Anderson hassles oppostion players, is speedy with a bit of skill.

    And if you can risk £16m on a player like that, your laughing.
    I thought he'd come as a Scholes replacement, but is just a not very good workhorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quality View Post
    I thought he'd come as a Scholes replacement, but is just a not very good workhorse.
    Here's an thing i seen on Red Cafe about Anderson, he should be playing further forward imo

    - He doesn't need to be "A Scholes", different type of players. It's bullshit how Anderson is getting all this stick yet Giggs was invisible too and never touched the ball. Carrick (who people says IS taking over from Scholes) was passing to the opposition etc.

    - He has not positional sense that a defensive midfielder should have. (Relates to my point that he isnt one!)

    - Probably because he isn't one. Our entire midfield got outplayed so we can't just blame it on Anderson. To put it in context I know Anderson is no Scholes but when Scholes was his age, he just about started playing regularly in the first team. Let's not write him off yet. He has done well of late and I still reckon the Fletcher - Carrick - Anderson trio is the future. It's just a shame that we didn't have a midfielder with a bit of bite tonight as one was injured and the other suspended.

    - Anderson had a below par season this year which kind of proved that he is not yet ready for a first team place like many thought. Stating that he is far from shite.

    - Anderson is inconsistent at the moment, either very good or very poor. He has all the attributes to become a top midfield player and the consistency will come with time.Lets be honest here, he wasn't the only one to play below standard, there's quite a few experienced players who looked very ordinary tonight. As a team we were poor.

    - He didn't do anything much of note tonight. that said, he didn't do a whole load of stuff wrong either. He just basically didn't do anything, hardly got a touch, which is not soley his fault. He was no more anonymous than Giggs, and gave it away no more when he had it - for example.

    - Find it difficult to be as critical as some are in here when he probably only touched the ball 5 or 6 times in the half, and at least managed to find a teamate who was nearby most of the time, and win it a couple times on the edge of our box.- I tried to think of an individual to blame myself, but credit simply has to go to Barcelona, rather than another Anderson is not good enough thread.

    - I tried to think of an individual to blame myself, but credit simply has to go to Barcelona, rather than another Anderson is not good enough thread. It's been made easy to do so because he ws taken off at half-time, but there would have been no complaints if Giggs or Park had gone off instead either

    .- I wouldn't mind seeing a re-shuffle. Let's play Anderson in his best position and not give him that responsibility. Someone like a fletcher or hargreaves when he returns is good enough at it

    - With rooney wing and anderson in this role, it's a waste. I miss the days where we say we're fucking better then you and it's up to you to try to stop us. It was never going to be easy for Anderson because the nerves from other players filters though but he'll be a better player for yesterday because if he watches the tape, he might not be happy with himself

    - Anderson is a young player who is only in his second season here. Maybe he is suffering from the second season syndrome and he is not the only one in our squad. But over the final weeks of the season he has taken his opportunities to impress and we must not forget that. It was an anonymous performance against Barcelona but he should learn from this. The likes of Iniesta and Xavi are among the best in the world and you can only learn from competing against them. As he gains in experience and confidence I expect to see him develop his game further in the future. Next year we can hope to see him build on the promise he has shown thus far. Understand that our young players are an investment and we will give them enough time to grow into their roles.

    - Just to get the point across, Anderson is naturally an attacking player but is being taught and played in a more defensive minded position than he has been used to. This in effect may hinder his attacking ability for th etime being but it is all part of SAF turning him into a more rounded central midfielder. To say he has no offensive ability is unbelievable imo.
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