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    Default How good is Olivier Giroud?

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    Giroud is better than all of our strikers when it comes to scoring goals.

    Explain how Hazard has created more chances than any other player in the league please. Makes no sense for such a poor player.

    I think he's an above average striker at International level and a good striker at premier league level. @Hutch rates him as a better goalscorer than two players who have bee genuinely world class as little as 3 years ago, a striker who averages almost a goal every 2 games in Ba and a striker who has close to 25 league goals in the last 14 months in Lukaku - very high praise.'how do you rank giroud?

    Bar Ba (lol) i'd have every other striker mentioned ITT instead of Giroud. I do rate the lad though.

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    I think Torres would score for fun at Arsenal tbh
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    Giroud has probably been Arsenal's most important player this season imo.

    Against Newcastle he got kicked to bits (and also hurt himself trying to tackle Tiote haha) but was able to man up and put the ball in the back of the net.

    Arsenal in recent season have been bottlers who get bullied out of points they should be picking up, Giroud is helping change that.
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    I wasn't including Lukaku in what I said as he has no effect on putting away the chances Hazard creates. Guess your slow brain didn't pick up on that though.

    Giroud >> Torres >> Eto'o >>> Ba

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    Good enough in front of the Arsenal midfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Messiah View Post
    Good enough in front of the Arsenal midfield
    Lol

    It's the other way round. When Giroud is upfront our midfield is better. They were fucking clueless against Newcastle for the most part. Missed Giroud so much... They was always looking for him.

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    OP is chatting shit. Yes Giroud isn't clinical but neither are the Chelsea strikers (Lukaka included). Some of the misses from Eto'o n Torres have been so poor... They used to be leathal.

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    Lukaku would be a beast at Arsenal

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187 View Post
    Lol

    It's the other way round. When Giroud is upfront our midfield is better. They were fucking clueless against Newcastle for the most part. Missed Giroud so much... They was always looking for him.
    I'd argue that those midfield performances are because we don't have a proper centre-forward when Giroud isn't playing. Stick Lukaku up there and the midfield would be up to standard. If we went 442, they'd also be fine.

    He's good enough. We need two more alternatives. A player similar to Giroud in terms of hold up play and a Suarez-type player.

    Having those three + Walcott and Podolski allows Arsenal the flexibility of going 442 for certain games or at stages during a match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtra P View Post
    I think Torres would score for fun at Arsenal tbh
    Agree. Arsenals system has always created the opportunity for strikers to score plenty as our chance creation has been fantastic for years. I'm struggling to think when we didn't have a 20 goal a season striker until now with Giroud. I do like him but think his link up play is being overrated somewhat as he isn't that great technically.

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    Giroud has probably been Arsenal's most important player this season imo.

    Against Newcastle he got kicked to bits (and also hurt himself trying to tackle Tiote haha) but was able to man up and put the ball in the back of the net.

    Arsenal in recent season have been bottlers who get bullied out of points they should be picking up, Giroud is helping change that.
    This is true but we have also struggled against rival teams and in the main Giroud has been average, poor or fluffed big chances in games. He was awful vs United, City and Chelsea. He was also good vd Dortmund and Liverpool. His contribution vs the small teams is being overrated somewhat.

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    [QUOTE=Hutch;3372798]I wasn't including Lukaku in what I said as he has no effect on putting away the chances Hazard creates. Guess your slow brain didn't pick up on that though.

    Giroud >> Torres >> Eto'o >>> Ba[/QUOTE]

    Care to explain why PAL or you making another unsubstantiated claim like usual.

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    Lol

    It's the other way round. When Giroud is upfront our midfield is better. They were fucking clueless against Newcastle for the most part. Missed Giroud so much... They was always looking for him.

    /

    OP is chatting shit. Yes Giroud isn't clinical but neither are the Chelsea strikers (Lukaka included). Some of the misses from Eto'o n Torres have been so poor... They used to be leathal.

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    You don't think Torres or E'too would score 20 plus here? Torres works as hard or harde than Giroud, has better technique and has a track record of scoring goals. He is horrible at Chelsea but still looks lethal for Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 187 View Post
    Lol

    It's the other way round. When Giroud is upfront our midfield is better. They were fucking clueless against Newcastle for the most part. Missed Giroud so much... They was always looking for him.
    Yeah, once we took Sissoko off you started to win the midfield battle because you had a bit more space, but before that Tiote was bullying you off the pitch single-handedly.
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    What prem strikers are better though?

    Aguero, Saurez, Rooney, Negredo, dunno who else really? He isn't world class but sorta 2nd tier, similar to Hernandez, Soldado (before spurs at least), Sturridge, Remy all similar level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datnigganev View Post

    Care to explain why PAL or you making another unsubstantiated claim like usual.
    This coming from the guy who claims Hazard is shit yeah lol. Retard.

    I watch our strikers struggle to score week in week out when they get plenty of chances. Its not hard to understand.

    Giroud gets in better positions he would easily score more than our strikers at Chelsea.

    (again I'm not talking about Lukaku)

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    He's good but I wouldn't take him at Liverpool tbh. I don't like the way he plays
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    OP thinks it's 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Volume View Post
    Against Newcastle he got kicked to bits (and also hurt himself trying to tackle Tiote haha) but was able to man up and put the ball in the back of the net.

    Arsenal in recent season have been bottlers who get bullied out of points they should be picking up, Giroud is helping change that.
    You want to see Suarez do that mate. Its unreal like he's not even human. Apparently he couldn't even get his boot on in training after the Hull game. Got bare injury's and everything but just keeps going at 120%.

    The guy is a machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    OP thinks it's 2009
    dunno why you haven't locked/deleted the hazard thread tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husso View Post
    You want to see Suarez do that mate. Its unreal like he's not even human. Apparently he couldn't even get his boot on in training after the Hull game. Got bare injury's and everything but just keeps going at 120%.

    The guy is a machine.
    He had that foot injury before the Hull game as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by IGotDoe,ICanLendYouAFiver View Post
    dunno why you haven't locked/deleted the hazard thread tbh
    Because I know and everyone else knows how good he is. It's funny reading nevs retarded posts in there especially after the original Hazard thread and OP he made when Arsenal were linked with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    This coming from the guy who claims Hazard is1. shit yeah lol. Retard.

    2. I watch our strikers struggle to score week in week out when they get plenty of chances. Its not hard to understand.

    3. Giroud gets in better positions 4. he would easily score more than our strikers at Chelsea.

    (again I'm not talking about Lukaku)
    1. Nope am just stating he hasn't lived up to his price tag, with evidence. You seem to be struggling with the concept of substantiating your opinion to make it a little more valid... PAL

    2. Replace Strikers with 'striker' and this is what most Arsenal fans have gone through since RVP left. E'too and Torres have track records of scoring large amounts of goals whereas as Giroud doesn't so how doe your claim support argument. Please present facts to strengthen your opinion PAL I.E. CHANCES MISSED, MINUTES PLAYED ETC.

    3. Says who?

    4. See above

    retard.

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