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    Quote Originally Posted by kyro View Post
    House music is more Grimy than Grime these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creative View Post
    Personally, no.

    Have been into Hip Hop and to a certain extend still am (altough I admittingly don't follow much new stuff) and most Trap beats
    to me are the most boring uninspirational pieces of music I've heard in the last couple years, bar maybe a few exceptions.
    some of the beats are hard as fuck tho thats ll i am saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMitch View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with different sides of the genre being explored, I think a lot of the stuff is trap inspired grime more than straight trap.

    As long as there are producers still exploring the other dimensions of grime then it's all good imo
    I agree with a lot of people on here and even this to an extent. In an ideal world yeah id agree with you on the fact that its all good as other producers are exploring other dimensions. the problem for me though is that 9/10 it just sounds like trap to me (i dont dislike trap btw). Trap is getting alot of hype atm and alot of people are jumping on the bandwagon to try and benefit from it but its already starting to wane, its the same formula and gimmick half the time. Its bound to be the 'uncool' thing to listen to in months to come. whilst i dont really care about whats cool and not cool what i really care about is people calling trap, grime because people already relate the two and sometimes even think its the same thing. As traps unpopularity grows wont this have a knock on affect on the way people view grime music as its seen as being heavily attached to trap? I just worry about the negative affects it may have on the grime scene.

    P.S For those who are saying 'who cares about genre names' i dont really care about that either, good music is good music, but at the end of the day people are naturally gonna try and put a name on something aren't they

    This is all personal opinion, just wanna see what other people are thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskilate View Post
    personally i feel as if its diluting alot of what grime is really about.

    lol clueless, grime hasn't been what its 'really about' for a good 6 years now bro

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    No doubt. that doesn't mean to say it cant be diluted further

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    I know why producers are making more trap beats these days

    lex and southside sizzle made alot of money when they brang the sound up, yeah it was around before them but they made it look easy, making 50 beats in one day and getting paid big just like that. if you have watched their interviews and scoped their twitter you would know. trap beats also make you spit easy and right easy bars or like some just freestyle off the top, this style is in fashion, you have guys like rick ross and his camp also waka flocka and his camp and now jay z when he vocald HAM, u hear how easy jay was spitting? it also made him shit cause he doesnt normally spit double time.

    now with the internet in play their are alot of bedroom mc's, manly from the states that want to get big in the music game. now this can lead them to explore sites and forums, youtube and soundcloud. now with that they now stumble across britsh based beat makers like sx and darq e freaker who are now making alot of trap beats and ask for beats cause what they have might just blow them up in the game, they want beat and producer wants pay, now the mc will pay up via online paying system or how ever and BOOOOOm you have a new song.

    im sure you have noticed sx is trying to break into the hiphop scene over the states, thats cool cause he was never grime but darq e freaker hmmmmm this guy dun gave a beat to Danny brown, a hiphop rapper, now the beat has that trap sound, also he has produced a beat for Footsie thats also trapperfied (lul) anyway what im trying to say is that theirs money to be made right now with trap beats.

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    This is the only trap beat I have ever rated. That one Wiz posted was okay to but other than them I feel like I'm hearing a million remixes of same tune. Bassline was more versatile than Trap is in it's current form anyway.


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    Yeah the garagey underground scene's take on trap is much more impressive than these grime producers' tbh

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    Trap is not Hip Hop nor is it Grime.
    Trap affiliates GTFO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deagle View Post
    Don't really care as long as it's good tbh. I'm not gonna narrowly define genres and listen to one and not the other. I'd rather listen to a good trap beat than a shit 'grime' one.
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    used to hate it. saw Lunice do a show. now i can't get enough of it.

    it'll get you

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    im not a big fan of note repeat and snare roll switch ups

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    @Retrofreak grime came from garage u hideous troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimer2012 View Post
    @Retrofreak grime came from garage u hideous troll
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    Last edited by CTC.; 8th July '12 at 11:06 PM.

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    I'm a big Hip-Hop listener but I despise Trap which so it's sudden appearance in Grime is rather jarring tbh. Much preferred Grime when it was sonically closer to Garage.

    Quote Originally Posted by grimer2012 View Post
    @Retrofreak grime came from garage u hideous troll
    And Garage came from Jungle/D'n'B which drew influences from Reggae & Hip-Hop...
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    @EA err yeah but Dnb and Jungle came from hardcore, and before that, darkside

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    Quote Originally Posted by grimer2012 View Post
    @EA err yeah but Dnb and Jungle came from hardcore, and before that, darkside
    All modern form of music is derived from something else, hence @CTC. saying don't bother get into the argument because you can't win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimer2012 View Post
    @Retrofreak grime came from garage u hideous troll
    Arguing with Retrofreak about Grimes origins is pointless, he somehow has it in his head that Hip Hop is the only genre to influence Grime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimer2012 View Post
    @Retrofreak grime came from garage u hideous troll
    Your point of reference is limited.

    Quote Originally Posted by R.dot.Tubbs View Post
    Arguing with Retrofreak about Grimes origins is pointless, he somehow has it in his head that Hip Hop is the only genre to influence Grime.
    Incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by EA View Post
    I'm a big Hip-Hop listener but I despise Trap which so it's sudden appearance in Grime is rather jarring tbh. Much preferred Grime when it was sonically closer to Garage.



    And Garage came from Jungle/D'n'B which drew influences from Reggae & Hip-Hop...
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