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Danny Trejo
15th October '09, 12:08 AM
that is all

Matt91
15th October '09, 12:23 AM
Who they playin?
I heard they beat Chile still

Danny Trejo
15th October '09, 12:29 AM
Uruguay. It's been dull

The Messiah
15th October '09, 01:22 AM
0-0 still.

Argentina won 1-0. They have automatic qualification.

Danny Trejo
15th October '09, 10:50 AM
This was one of the worst matches I've seen in time

Entity
15th October '09, 11:02 AM
Argentina aren't awful, Maradona is just a awful manager

The Messiah
15th October '09, 11:24 AM
Argentina aren't awful, Maradona is just a awful manager

In fairness Argentina haven't been able to properly replace Hernan Crespo, Roberto Ayala & Juan Pablo Sorín since they retired.

Eagle
15th October '09, 11:29 AM
they also thought playing 3 midgets as the focal point of their attack was a good idea for most of the qualifiers.

The Messiah
15th October '09, 11:31 AM
they also thought playing 3 midgets as the focal point of their attack was a good idea for most of the qualifiers.

Well for some strange reason, some people in England seem to think playing two (Defoe and Rooney) is a good idea. Mardonna was just trying to better that theory.

Entity
15th October '09, 11:39 AM
In fairness Argentina haven't been able to properly replace Hernan Crespo, Roberto Ayala & Juan Pablo Sorín since they retired. Yeah I agree, but Maradona isn't making things any easier. He's fielded in the region of 70 different players during the qualification period. He lacks that substance and conviction as a manager that is so important at international level. I can't see them doing too well at the world cup with him in charge.

quality
15th October '09, 01:24 PM
Crespo can be replaced by any one of Lisandro Lopez, Higuain or Milito. Maradona chooses to ignore Lopez, despite his Lyon form, just recently called up Higuain and Milito was injured (I think). Then you have Tevez, Messi (as he's being played as a forward) and Aguero (admittedly shit this year).

Ayala and Sorin, granted their defence is woeful, but they should still be able to compete on the basis of their defensive midfielders, attacking midfielders and numerous options up front.

Genetically Genuine
15th October '09, 02:37 PM
Tevez, Aguero, Messi all too similar

Lopez or Higuain should be playing instead of Tevez/Aguero

strappazoot
15th October '09, 03:50 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/15/diego-maradona-argentina-world-cup


"You lot take it up the arse," were Diego Maradona's words to the press immediately after his team secured a place at next year's World Cup finals. It was almost adding injury to the insult when he scanned the room and added, "if the ladies will pardon the expression". Looking increasingly Botox-ridden, the angry yet victorious Argentina coach was somehow able to raise a nervous chuckle from those on the receiving end of the abuse.

He wanted to dedicate the triumph to the fans back home and especially those who bothered to cross into Uruguay, to his girls Dalma and Giannina, and to his squad, who worked like never before for the 1–0 result. "But certain people who have not supported me, and you know who you are, can keep sucking," he added.

Grotesque and undignified, Maradona then grabbed his genitals with both hands, signalling some sort of manly insult to the TV cameras in the tunnel outside the dressing room.

In stark contrast, Uruguay's manager, Oscar Tabárez, praised his own team and their opponents. He had also impressed with the gentle manner in which he had helped Carlos Tevez back to his feet after a Uruguayan tackle had rolled the Argentina forward off the pitch during the game, and with the kind but firm way in which he expressed the view that his side could still make it to South Africa via next month's two-leg play-off with Costa Rica.

The Uruguay-born commentator Víctor Hugo Morales described the match as mediocre – "it is so bad it's not surprising the fans are celebrating a goal scored in a different match altogether," he said when news of the already qualified Chile's goal against Ecuador spread – and it was one which Argentina arguably won despite, rather than because of, Maradona's influence. Afterwards the players hugged each other and wept with joy as their manager wobbled towards the 70-year-old general manager, Carlos Bilardo, and they clutched each other sobbing.

When those two joined forces for their first World Cup, in 1986, they famously felt everyone was out to get them. "We had to leg it out of the country, even the government were asking for my head," Bilardo would later recount. Their sense of triumph in adversity was a theme throughout that tournament, and when Fifa's cameras captured the dressing-room celebration of a demented Diego waving his shirt in the air after the final and bellowing "we dedicate this to all of you, the f*cking whore that gave birth to you", the clip was slotted into an otherwise classy edit of the tournament and released as a successful film, Hero.

There has been a sense that something similar is in the air right now: almost as if the antagonism fuels Maradona, keeps him alive even. As ever there is an element of truth in his opinions, and they shape his perceptions. But just because he's paranoid does not mean they're not all out to get him.

After an initial treading-on-eggshells approach, the Argentinian press has been more and more candid about its reservations. Criticisms are dealt out more readily and severely, and the personal gets mixed up with the professional.

And Maradona himself blurs the lines: his first game, against Scotland in Glasgow, saw a weepy manager discuss his daughter's pregnancy in detail after she had been admitted to hospital. The child's father, the striker Sergio "El Kun" Agüero, left the training camp to be with her. Maradona considered this the main issue of the day, praising his players for their ability to behave like caring human beings. There was no mention of tactics, line-ups, or anything else related to the game.

Almost a year on baby Benjamin has been born and amid rumours that the young couple are going through a rough patch, Agüero did not even get a place on the bench last night. Although these titbits of gossip are not published, they spread like wildfire.

Inside details from the camp are leaked in streams of text messages to selected journalists. The afternoon before the Uruguay match, one AFA insider messaged several of them just before 3pm, saying Maradona had just got up. It's hard not to be paranoid in that context.

But more worryingly still, Maradona's outburst echoes the warring attitude of the long-standing AFA president, Julio Grondona, towards the main media in particular, and most of the press in general. Yesterday he had a slight loss of cool when he spoke of how he is tired of "taking it" for 18 years. Singling out obscure radio stations for very specific criticisms of him, Grondona said he reads and listens to everything, all night long. His language of hatred and the way it was delivered left a sour taste.

And it is not just Maradona's team who are finding it difficult. The Under-20s failed to qualify for their World Cup, something which has hardly been discussed in the press yet.

Wednesday may have been the night on which Argentina confirmed their reservation at South Africa 2010, but if it goes on like this it ain't going to be pretty. And even though some of us chuckled during Maradona's press conference, deep down we also know that it's not funny either.

Sink0
15th October '09, 09:05 PM
maradonna.:laugh:

crazy fat cokehead

Jay05
15th October '09, 09:41 PM
Its not helped by him picking players in the Argentinan league ahead of those more experienced in Europe and the constant chopping and changing.

It would be like making Gazza England Manager

Mazer Rackham
15th October '09, 09:43 PM
Its not helped by him picking players in the Argentinan league ahead of those more experienced in Europe and the constant chopping and changing.

It would be like making Gazza England Manager

imagine that, an english player with no managerial experience being given a top job.






w8

MC-alex:rixon
19th October '09, 09:18 AM
major lawlz at this thread ^_~

jasonyuen
19th October '09, 09:31 AM
lawlz are for gimp (alex)

MC-alex:rixon
19th October '09, 09:33 AM
larrls then :|

ill just keep changing it lwll

jasonyuen
19th October '09, 09:33 AM
larrls suck aswell

MC-alex:rixon
19th October '09, 09:35 AM
rawr ^^

:P

lawel :)