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Hij
11th December '11, 05:22 PM
While Robbie Savage and Jason Roberts were chatting shit with a caller on 5Live

An Arsenal fan said he wouldn't swap Alex Song for Scott Parker and the studio burst out laughing for a short while.

So firstly, based on current ability, future ability, role in the team, who do you think is more important for their team, Parker or Song?

Also, please choose a first 11 (in whichever formation you think is best) using both squads to pick from. Then at the end, write how many Arsenal players you chose and how many Tottenham. Don't pick subs- just a first 11.

I'll do some excel madness on it later. Which players got the most votes in order - and the ratio overall.

Tony Starks
11th December '11, 05:25 PM
Firstly, I can understand why both sets of fans would prefer to have their player over the other, both are having really good seasons as well. I'd have Song over Parker for the record but neither would get into a NL first 11

Szcezny

Sagna King Vermaelen Assou-Ekotto

Wilshere Modric

Van Der Vaart

Walcott RVP Bale

Arsenal 6
Tottenham 5

Hij
11th December '11, 05:27 PM
I would have.

-------------------Schezny
Sagna - King - Vermalean - Assou Ekkoto
---------------------Song------
Walcott ---Wilshire---Van Der Vaart ------ Bale
--------------Van Persie--------------

Arsenal: 7
Tottenham: 4

Wanted to fit Modric in, but chose Walcott as he actually can play on the right. Tony Starks are you playing Modric in defensive midfield?

chris89
11th December '11, 05:33 PM
As a DM Parker, Song confuses me cos I swear he plays DM but the only time I notice him is when he attacks.

------------RVP-----------------
-----------------------------
Bale-Wilshere-Modric-Walcott
-----------Parker--------------
Assou---King--Vermaelen-Walker
---------Szczesny------------

Arsenal: 5
Spurs: 6

Only controversial choice is Walker>>Sagna, I just don't see the hype about Sagna, never have.

edit: wait you said better player overall lol, that would be Song, I've already voted for Parker though.

Julio Cesar
11th December '11, 05:33 PM
Voted Parker.

--------------------Chesney----------------------------
Sagna---------King-------Vermaelen--------Assou-Ekotto
Walcott----------Modric------------Parker---------Bale
--------------------VDV-----------------------------
--------------------RVP-----------------------------

Arsenal:5
Tottenham: 6

The Messiah
11th December '11, 05:42 PM
----------------Szczesny----------------
Sagna---Vermaelen---King---Assou-Ekotto
------Wilshere---Song---VanDV-------
Walcott---------------------------Bale
------------------RVP-----------------

Arsenal: 7
Spurs: 4

Tony Starks
11th December '11, 05:44 PM
I would have.
Wanted to fit Modric in, but chose Walcott as he actually can play on the right. Tony Starks are you playing Modric in defensive midfield?
Hes central, Wilsheres more defensive than he is in the formation

The Messiah
11th December '11, 05:45 PM
As for Song vs Parker:

The reason I rate Song is because he will try to pick to pick out passes that others won't try. No offence to Parker or those who play the DM role, it's one thing breking up play and playing the short pass to another player more technically gifted than you. It's another thing breaking up play, surging forward and playing a great pass.

The assist for RvPs goal yesterday typifies my point. The ball was from Song...

187
11th December '11, 05:46 PM
Song is clearly the better player, does his ting attacking and defending, some off his passing this season >>>

He's still a bit clumsy sometimes smh, giving away cheap freekicks <<<

Parker is a sick DM and will never give up etc etc, but is a limited footballer imo.

My NLT team...

Chez
Walker Kos Vermz BAE
Theo Song Wilshere Bale
Modric
RvP

>>>>>

Gunners: 7
Yids: 4



Only controversial choice is Walker>>Sagna, I just don't see the hype about Sagna, never have.

lol @ never rating Sagna #JokeTing / I've picked Walker for my team aswell i rate that Yid highly still...

Hij
11th December '11, 05:48 PM
----------------Szczesny----------------
Sagna---Vermaelen---King---Assou-Ekotto
------Wilshere---Song---VanDV-------
Walcott---------------------------Bale
------------------RVP-----------------

Arsenal: 7
Spurs: 4

We have exactly the same players.

Would have repped.


As for Song vs Parker:

The reason I rate Song is because he will try to pick to pick out passes that others won't try. No offence to Parker or those who play the DM role, it's one thing breking up play and playing the short pass to another player more technically gifted than you. It's another thing breaking up play, surging forward and playing a great pass.

The assist for RvPs goal yesterday typifies my point. The ball was from Song...

One of the main points raised yesterday was that you have several years left in song as well.

Jack 1017
11th December '11, 05:48 PM
----------------Szczesny----------------
Sagna---Vermaelen---Kosc---Assou-Ekotto
------Wilshere---Song---VanDV-------
Walcott---------------------------Bale
------------------RVP-----------------

Arsenal: 8
Spurs: 3

.

WHN chris89 Sagna>>>>>>

Kosc>>>>>>>King

Johnny i am dissapoint bro :smh:

Song is more of a box 2 box midfielder then a DM tbh Parker just wins the ball and passes it off to the side

187
11th December '11, 05:49 PM
lol @ picking VDV over Modric

#Fail

chris89
11th December '11, 05:49 PM
lol @ not putting Modric in your teams :laugh:

The Messiah
11th December '11, 05:52 PM
We have exactly the same players.

Would have repped.

Well I think the team picks itself to be honest.


lol @ picking VDV over Modric

#Fail

It's a very close call, but I think the team picked is more balanced with VdV instead of Modric. You can't have both Modric and VdV in your team, without sacrificing Wilshere tbh. I feel his ability on all areas of the pitch is more important.


One of the main points raised yesterday was that you have several years left in song as well.

Irrelevant of that, I'd still pick Song if he was 31.

Jack 1017
11th December '11, 05:53 PM
Fuck Luka, Jack can do what he does and works harder r/s

Bish
11th December '11, 05:53 PM
----------------Szczesny----------------
Sagna---Vermaelen---King---Assou-Ekotto
------Wilshere---Modric---VanDV-------
Walcott---------------------------Bale
------------------RVP-----------------


i rate Parker but what swung it for me to choose Song was the future ability as Parker is much older

Arsenal 6
Spurs 5

Tony Starks
11th December '11, 05:54 PM
As a DM Parker, Song confuses me cos I swear he plays DM but the only time I notice him is when he attacks.

Thats because when Parker makes a tackle the media and commentators love to point it out and replay it every single time, his tackles are cleaner and they look good so i can see why.

I'd also like to point out Song has a goal and SEVEN assists so far this season. Which is insane considering he's supposed to be the last line of defense in midfield

Two examples of great play/passes his assists for RVP against Everton and Dortmund

Xtra P
11th December '11, 05:54 PM
Song is clearly the better footballer.

Nigel
11th December '11, 05:55 PM
Friedal
Walker, Vermarlaen, King(when fit), assout ekotto.
Parker,Ramsey
Wilshire
Lennon,Bale
RvP

Never really liked Modric, and although Van Der Vaarts a class player Wilshire gets around the pitch and is just personal preference as he can player deeper yet still assist attack

187
11th December '11, 05:57 PM
Stepper I picked Walker cah he's been better than Sagna this season, even tho Sagna's been injured.

Sagna's crossing <<<

chris89
11th December '11, 06:00 PM
Yeah I didn't read the better footballer part before I voted, I thought it was just about DM, better footballer is Song

Cazorla
11th December '11, 06:02 PM
I said a couple months ago that Song's final ball is a lot, someone tried to say i was gassed because we were playing against 10 men. His passing in the final third is on point this season.

Julio Cesar
11th December '11, 06:16 PM
Yeah I didn't read the better footballer part before I voted, I thought it was just about DM, better footballer is Song

.

Parker is the better DM but Song is better overall.

Genetically Genuine
11th December '11, 06:17 PM
Song>>>>>>>Parker

My Team:

-------------------Schezny------------------

Sagna---------King--------Verm---------BAE

------Modric---------Song-----Wilshere------

Walcott-----------RVP------------------Bale

Arsenal players: 7
Spuds: 4

ya boy bangz
11th December '11, 06:18 PM
Walker>>Sagna

I lol'd.

Plak
11th December '11, 07:15 PM
I'd have had Song over Parker today tbh, had a shit game.
Voted Parker anyway.

talkingthehardest
11th December '11, 08:30 PM
I'd go for Song. He's just as hard working as Parker but has much better feet and skill. Mans linked to Barcelona for a reason.

North London Team:

GK - Szczesny
RB - Sagna
CB - Vermaelen
CB - King
LB - Assou-Ekotto

RM - Walcott
CM - Modric
CM - Van der Vaart
LM - Bale

ST - RVP
ST - Adebayor

Nigel
11th December '11, 09:24 PM
I'd go for Song. He's just as hard working as Parker but has much better feet and skill. Mans linked to Barcelona for a reason.

North London Team:

GK - Szczesny
RB - Sagna
CB - Vermaelen
CB - King
LB - Assou-Ekotto

RM - Walcott
CM - Modric
CM - Van der Vaart
LM - Bale

ST - RVP
ST - Adebayor

Lol, thats basically a 4,1,5, Walcott ain't a Right Mid, and Van Der Vaart aint a centre mid.


Also, Song has 27 Brothers and Sisters, http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/24021/alexandre-song/trivia , his Mum must have the worlds biggest minge

Pirate
11th December '11, 09:38 PM
Assuming full fitness and in-form:

Friedel
Sagna Vermaelen King Assou Ekotto
Parker Song
Wilshere
Van de Vaart Van Persie Bale

Arsenal 5, Spurs 6

Plak
11th December '11, 09:39 PM
GK: Szcezny
LB: BAE
CB: King
CB: Verm
RB: Sagna
RM: Lennon
CM: Modric
CM: Song
LM: Bale
AM: VDV
ST: RVP
Arsenal players: 5
Spurs players: 6

Josh
11th December '11, 10:01 PM
------------------------------- Chezny -------------------------------
Sagna ------------- King ------------------ Vermaelen ----- BAE
-------------------------------- Song ---------------------------------
---------------------- Wilshere ------------- Modric ----------------
Walcott -------------------------------------------------------- Bale
--------------------------------- RVP ---------------------------------

Arsenal: 7
Spurs: 4

Song is better than Parker as well.

Samir_NasG
11th December '11, 10:37 PM
They do different jobs tbh but Song is the better player just doesn't run around as much as Parker mainly because he doesn't need to.

---------------Szczesny---------------
--Sagna---King------Vermalen----BAE--
-----------Song---Modric--------------
--Theo--------Wilshere---------Bale--
----------------RVP-------------------

7-4 Arsenal but was close on Wilshere/VDV

tippa
11th December '11, 11:07 PM
i voted for song


-------------------Schezny------------------

Sagna---------King--------Verm---------BAE

------Modric---------Song-------------Wiltshere

Walcott---------------RVP-----------------Bale


Arsenal 7
Tottenham 4

EA
11th December '11, 11:25 PM
GK: Szczesny
RB: Sagna
CB: King
CB: Vermaelen
LB: Assou-Ekotto
DMC: Song
MC: Modric
MC: Wilshere
AMR: Walcott
AML: Bale
ST: van Persie

Arsenal: 7
Spurs: 4

quality
12th December '11, 12:11 AM
The Pole whose name I won't even try and spell

Sagna
King
Vermaelen
Assou Ekotto

Lennon
Wilshire
Song/Sandro
Modric
Bale

Van Persie

daspecimen
12th December '11, 12:12 AM
Szczesny

Sagna
King
Vermaelen
Bale

Sandro
Wilshere

Walcott
VDV
Modric

RVP

Arsenal:6
Spuds:5

The Messiah
12th December '11, 12:40 AM
Basically most teams chosen are far are this:


----------------Szczesny----------------
Sagna---Vermaelen---King---Assou-Ekotto
------Wilshere---Song---VDV/Modric-------
Walcott---------------------------Bale
------------------RVP-----------------

Arsenal: 7
Spurs: 4

chickenkormapilauandnaan
12th December '11, 12:41 AM
Alex song or parker? Really? Parker all day for me.

Hutch
12th December '11, 12:42 AM
------------RVP-----------------
-----------------------------
Bale-Wilshere-Modric-Walcott
-----------Parker--------------
Assou---King--Vermaelen-Walker
---------Szczesny------------

Arsenal: 5
Spurs: 6

This is the same 11 I would pick tbh, didn't have to type it out safe Chris :evilgrin:

Burden Durden
12th December '11, 12:51 AM
It's a tough decision, but personally would choose Parker. He does the main part of his job better than Song which is breaking down attacks, intercepting and distributing the ball to the more creative players. Song also doesn't match Parker's work rate.

NaiJaBoY
12th December '11, 06:07 AM
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/644620afjw1dnekofy21cg.gif

Song is setting new standards for DMs

Alexandre Dimitri Song Billong>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

quality
12th December '11, 09:56 AM
IMO Song would be better in a 3 man midfield not being the DM, he has a bit more than that and think he struggles with positional discipline.

Switch
12th December '11, 12:14 PM
------------------------------- Chezny -------------------------------
Sagna ------------- Kos ------------------ Vermaelen ----- BAE
-------------------------------- Song ---------------------------------
---------------------- Wilshere ------------- Modric ----------------
Walcott -------------------------------------------------------- Bale
--------------------------------- RVP ---------------------------------

Arsenal: 8
Spurs: 3

Song is better than Parker as well..

Burden Durden
12th December '11, 12:18 PM
Definitely wouldn't have Song as the holding midfielder in such attacking teams like the ones posted ITT.

chris89
12th December '11, 12:40 PM
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/644620afjw1dnekofy21cg.gif

Song is setting new standards for DMs

Alexandre Dimitri Song Billong>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Imagine if he lost the ball there though :laugh:

DM on the wing<<<<<<<<

Genetically Genuine
12th December '11, 02:40 PM
Fuck I accidentally voted Parker.. is there anyway to change it?

vibezin
12th December '11, 04:17 PM
Assou Ekkoto is over rated

Pristine Condition
12th December '11, 04:20 PM
Definitely wouldn't have Song as the holding midfielder in such attacking teams like the ones posted ITT.

Exactly.

Jack 1017
12th December '11, 04:22 PM
Imagine if he lost the ball there though :laugh:

DM on the wing<<<<<<<<

Arteta/Ramsey was covering BMT

Hes not a DM


Exactly.

I'd rather have Carrick or Anderson tbh














w8?? Lulullulululululu

Villain_94
12th December '11, 04:29 PM
song is better than parker tbh

Josh
12th December '11, 05:10 PM
We shouldn't pidgeonhole players as much as we do either, I agree that Song isn't a DM.

quality
12th December '11, 05:13 PM
Is it good news or bad news that Santos is out for 3 months? How fat will he be after missing all that training?

NaiJaBoY
12th December '11, 07:59 PM
Imagine if he lost the ball there though :laugh:

DM on the wing<<<<<<<<

No worries if u a badman like Billong

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd433/Anoti4ever/9giya8-1.gif

Maybe u guys forgot what Song did to Rooney at the Emirates last season

Mr Nasri
14th December '11, 09:51 AM
surprised at the lack of arteta's. Hes the balance in midfield.

Shakeem
14th December '11, 11:55 AM
voted Song cause I like his haircut.