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Hij
8th December '11, 02:40 AM
Wagwan Glazers? :-D

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/3/15/1268682062705/green-and-gold-united-pro-001.jpg

http://blogs.soccernet.com/manchesterunited/flaglarge.jpg

http://blog.muradqureshi.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/GreenGold.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/25/article-1260534-08642E9C000005DC-389_468x286.jpg

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Green-and-Gold2.jpg

http://tkey.co.uk/blog/images/Man_united_glazer_protest.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/3/17/1268852380904/green-and-gold-001.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2010/3/3/1267647483123/A-Manchester-United-fan-s-001.jpg

Matt91
8th December '11, 02:44 AM
i dnt get it yh norwich wear green & yellow and?

Scrappy123
8th December '11, 02:49 AM
Meh


I rated their movement up until they suddenly stopped.


This is why I will always love Super Mo.

Hij
8th December '11, 02:54 AM
i dnt get it yh norwich wear green & yellow and?

:( Man United are on course to do well long term so long as they always qualify for the latter rounds of the European Cup every season- due to the weight of the debt that the Glazers have put on them. Winning trophies and or getting to the latter stages of the European Cup keeps them earning money- the one season they earned profit was when they sold Ronaldo for 80m.

To not qualify for the knock out rounds means (unless they have done something amazing) that they are leaking money, e.g the money in the Europa is nothing in comparison to the money in the European Cup, which the Glazers have expected most seasons since they took over. If I'm wrong and in fairness I may be and if I am I apologise, but as far as I have been aware from 3 years back, you wouldn't have all these guys above this post wearing Norwich colours (the original United colours) if they didn't have a few problems or qualms against where the owners were taking them- and I know what that feels like.

Falling out of the European Cup is apparently horrendous for their finances as far as I have been told- maybe due to the last few years success they have had it isn't anymore, and if it isn't, I'll shut up, but the yellow and gold went global and became a fashion item for United fans from far and wide, I just wonder if it's going to come back. Perhaps its cool and I'm wrong. Perhaps this is a tipping point.

We've come out the back end (no homo) of a massive problem with our last owners and while we are absolute shite, we haven't got massive debt and can balance the books. Is this going to effect United? Maybe. Maybe not. Fergie loves the Glazers regardless of what the fans think (which tbh I would be offended by), and he wouldn't even talk to the press tonight (as usual when they lose) :)

Let's see what happens innit :)

Matt91
8th December '11, 03:07 AM
lets be avin you

Hij
8th December '11, 03:29 AM
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Mazer Rackham
8th December '11, 05:38 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15853955.stm

lololol

chris89
8th December '11, 05:52 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15853955.stm

lololol

What a prick, this makes me hate him more every time I see it, especially when he says 'are you serious?'


























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Danielson
8th December '11, 06:00 PM
Not qualifying for the knockout stage costs them TV rights and qualification monies.


UEFA pays teams reaching the first knockout round €3 million, each quarter finalist €3.3 million, €4.2 million for each semi-finalist, €5.6 million for the runners-up and €9 million for the winners

Tony Starks
8th December '11, 06:06 PM
United will be okay despite getting knocked out early its all hype. It might affact the finances into signing that midfielder they desperately need though

More importantly they just need to get the team playing again quickly. With Rooney not scoring, Vidic and Hernadez out with long term injuries, De Gea still looking pretty poor, if the unthinkable happens and they dont make the top 4 for the first time then the club will be in serious danger.

Scrappy123
8th December '11, 06:12 PM
United will be okay despite getting knocked out early its all hype. It might affact the finances into signing that midfielder they desperately need though

More importantly they just need to get the team playing again quickly. With Rooney not scoring, Vidic and Hernadez out with long term injuries, De Gea still looking pretty poor, if the unthinkable happens and they dont make the top 4 for the first time then the club will be in serious danger.

n/s at all bro but you are letting the media gas you. I have seen games where he has been immense for them such as the Arsenal & Chelsea games where if it weren't for his world class vital save at 1-0 then the game would of been very different. The media still tries to find what he done wrong in those game though. He has been unfortunate with the fact, whenever he does make a mistake(what keeper does not) he is punished due to United having a very shakey defense i.e last night and vs Benfica.

Reina made an absolute clanger to cost Liverpool against us but hardly a word was mentioned on it. If that was De Gea he would of been crucified.

It's like when he let in a goal from long range and everyone started stating that he conceded the most long range in goals in la liga last season...not knowing he also saved the most long range shots and 2nd most shots in the penalty box.

quality
8th December '11, 06:13 PM
I agree with Scrappy tbh. He made a brilliant save later in the game, he's the least of their problems.

Danielson
8th December '11, 06:24 PM
Utd's problem is the centre of midfield.

Anderson is inconsistent.

Carrick is shit most of the time (maybe one good 40 yard pass every 10 games)

Fletcher is solid but rarely anything above that

Cleverley is still developing, cannot be expected to carry the midfield

Gibson... lol

Haven't seen anything of Pogba

Tony Starks
8th December '11, 06:44 PM
De Gea has dodgy all season theres no denying it, you dont sign a keeper for 20 mil if they' re not capable of the odd top save which is what hes done but overal hes looked a liability. On current form I'd have Chesney, Reina, Hart, Given, Jaaskelainen, Friedel over him

MoneyMan
8th December '11, 07:02 PM
De Gea has dodgy all season theres no denying it, you dont sign a keeper for 20 mil if they' re not capable of the odd top save which is what hes done but overal hes looked a liability. On current form I'd have Chesney, Reina, Hart, Given, Jaaskelainen, Friedel over him

.

De Gea would have to be making 10 world class saves a match atm to make up for the points he's given away with shit mistakes.

Hij I see teh point you're making, basically that United (like all major clubs and companies) have been running at a loss because of everyone's continued confidence they will still make a massive turnover, which can then be siphoned out by the creditors and owners of United PLC and all subsidiary companies which have varying degrees of dodgy interests in the club.

Man U may be about to hit a recession, as we saw the reason the whole economy collapsed is basically just because somebody noticed there was no actual cash money, just inflated numbers on screens and bam the bubble was burst.

They should be alright because they still have ginormous pulling power in termsof brand name and investment potential, but this on-pitch fuck up could seriously affect their long term prospects, if things don't improve. A downward spiral of lack of playing success (which I predicted anyway due to the dominance of Barca and megabucks of City domestically) therefore leading to less turnover, even more debt, less playing success.... etc etc.

I will continue laughing until they day they are reborn and go on a winning spree again, though.

:-D

Brisboy84
8th December '11, 07:06 PM
n/s at all bro but you are letting the media gas you. I have seen games where he has been immense for them such as the Arsenal & Chelsea games where if it weren't for his world class vital save at 1-0 then the game would of been very different. The media still tries to find what he done wrong in those game though. He has been unfortunate with the fact, whenever he does make a mistake(what keeper does not) he is punished due to United having a very shakey defense i.e last night and vs Benfica.

Reina made an absolute clanger to cost Liverpool against us but hardly a word was mentioned on it. If that was De Gea he would of been crucified.

It's like when he let in a goal from long range and everyone started stating that he conceded the most long range in goals in la liga last season...not knowing he also saved the most long range shots and 2nd most shots in the penalty box.

Yeah but the difference is that Reina is already a top keeper and hasn't made a lot of mistakes this season (unlike De Gea). I like De Gea though. He has improved as the season has gone on. But he's still shaky imo. When i've seen Lindergaard for Utd he looks more solid. He has more of a presence at the mo.


Utd's problem is the centre of midfield.

Anderson is inconsistent.

Carrick is shit most of the time (maybe one good 40 yard pass every 10 games)

Fletcher is solid but rarely anything above that

Cleverley is still developing, cannot be expected to carry the midfield

Gibson... lol

Haven't seen anything of Pogba

Pogba has a lot of potential by all accounts. They also got that Morrison guy who also has a lot of potential. Only seen bits and pieces of both, but they're very talented.

The Messiah
8th December '11, 07:06 PM
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De Gea would have to be making 10 world class saves a match atm to make up for the points he's given away with shit mistakes.

Hij I see teh point you're making, basically that United (like all major clubs and companies) have been running at a loss because of everyone's continued confidence they will still make a massive turnover, which can then be siphoned out by the creditors and owners of United PLC and all subsidiary companies which have varying degrees of dodgy interests in the club.

Man U may be about to hit a recession, as we saw the reason the whole economy collapsed is basically just because somebody noticed there was no actual cash money, just inflated numbers on screens and bam the bubble was burst.

They should be alright because they still have ginormous pulling power in termsof brand name and investment potential, but this on-pitch fuck up could seriously affect their long term prospects, if things don't improve. A downward spiral of lack of playing success (which I predicted anyway due to the dominance of Barca and megabucks of City domestically) therefore leading to less turnover, even more debt, less playing success.... etc etc.

I will continue laughing until they day they are reborn and go on a winning spree again, though.

:-D

Saying nothing new bro. People have always known that lack of Champions League money (particularly for a sustained period of time) would hurt United the most and Liverpool and Arsenal least because of the way the latter two are run.

MoneyMan
8th December '11, 07:10 PM
Saying nothing new bro. People have always known that lack of Champions League money (particularly for a sustained period of time) would hurt United the most and Liverpool and Arsenal least because of the way the latter two are run.

It was always speculation or wishful thinking though, now we're finally seeing the glorious fruits of imprudent business practice blossom
:-D

I found this image and feel now is a really relevant occasion to post it, especially because Celtic and Man U are now in the same competition :laugh:



http://i42.tinypic.com/kas57s.gif

Plak
8th December '11, 07:22 PM
Just gettin to the CL group gets you 5-6M, plus the TV rights for all 6 games, plus the win bonuses you end up with a minimum of suttin like 15-20M. I love the fact their cunt fans have been shut up for a while by this but tbh financially they won't suffer.

quality
8th December '11, 07:37 PM
Supposedly Pogba wants out - his contract is up in the summer, he's free to talk to clubs in January, and Italian clubs have been waving big wages at him.

Scrappy123
10th December '11, 01:16 AM
Seeing as alot of Arsenal fans and people in general on here rely on stats so heavilly when it came to supporting Cesc,RVP etc........

Statistically De Gea has been the best keeper this season.....just saying


D. De Gea
Saves to shot ratio 79.4%

Saves made 50
Saves parried safe 17
Saves parried into danger 5
Penalties faced 2
Penalties saved 1


Cech & Schezney are 18th & 19th with 60% or so.

Hij
10th December '11, 02:14 AM
Yeah I was drunk when I made this lol