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    Quote Originally Posted by yardie View Post
    Logan is claiming grime ain't black music

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    Grime is council estate music or it was

    big up the emo grime crew
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    logan has said before (on this forum iirc) that grime is black music, i wonder what changed his mind

    anyway, grime is black music, hardly controversial, its like saying water is wet :|
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    It all started with this article.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/student...-a6777256.html

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    it is and it isn't,
    its music of black origin
    but ultimately its music from the streets of england

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    Grime wouldn't exist the way it exists without Slimzee, or Geeneus, or Logan Sama, or even Mr Wong. This has become a regular discussion on here in the last few montths, it's some 2015 phenomenon

    This kind of argument comes from reductive American identity politics like reasoning and that always bemuses me because on a socialogical level America is fucked up on a different sphere to England. Racism, gun gontrol, wealth inequality, politics, healthcare, public discourse and segregation, all worse over there and we really don't need their mindsets coming over here. These people want to be Che Greva and fight some grime crusade then Logan Sama can come along and bait up that they know nothing about the genre, little social justice warriors who wish they could live in an echo chamber.

    Kwam and Discarda are currently arguing with someone who admitted they only goggled the genre 15 minutes ago but has decided whites appropriated it, says it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceldama View Post
    Grime wouldn't exist the way it exists without Slimzee, or Geeneus, or Logan Sama, or even Mr Wong. This has become a regular discussion on here in the last few montths, it's some 2015 phenomenon

    This kind of argument comes from reductive American identity politics like reasoning and that always bemuses me because on a socialogical level America is fucked up on a different sphere to England. Racism, gun gontrol, wealth inequality, politics, healthcare, public discourse and segregation, all worse over there and we really don't need their mindsets coming over here. These people want to be Che Greva and fight some grime crusade then Logan Sama can come along and bait up that they know nothing about the genre, little social justice warriors who wish they could live in an echo chamber.

    Kwam and Discarda are currently arguing with someone who admitted they only goggled the genre 15 minutes ago but has decided whites appropriated it, says it all
    This geez gets it

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    I saw all the hype on twitter.

    Grime doesn't have a specific race.
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    Grime started off black and white. A lot of DJ's and producers were white from BITD, most MCs were black but not all.

    I don't think the genre has a race tbf. Black people clearly excel at it but it's a mixed thing.

    "Demonstrating for the raver, black or the white it doesn't matter" - D Double E (who knows about them old school lyrics there!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceldama View Post
    Grime wouldn't exist the way it exists without Slimzee, or Geeneus, or Logan Sama, or even Mr Wong.
    Not that I really subscribe to the binary thinking outlined in various posts ITT, but this statement of yours strengthens the 'point' being circulated if anything, rather than weakens it. As you say, it wouldn't exist the way it exists without those guys' input, but that'll be because once Joe Public can see 'one of their own' aligned with (and accepted within) this previously exclusive/off-limits movement it's that bit easier to accept without feeling like a wagonist or whatever. Those guys you named were just some of the first not to GAF about what anyone else thought, is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Capital Kid View Post
    Not that I really subscribe to the binary thinking outlined in various posts ITT, but this statement of yours strengthens the 'point' being circulated if anything, rather than weakens it. As you say, it wouldn't exist the way it exists without those guys' input, but that'll be because once Joe Public can see 'one of their own' aligned with (and accepted within) this previously exclusive/off-limits movement it's that bit easier to accept without feeling like a wagonist or whatever. Those guys you named were just some of the first not to GAF about what anyone else thought, is all.
    The fuck you talking about. You've completely misconstrued and misunderstood what I've written. Slimzee gave Dizzee Rascal a bring in, grime was never an exclusive/off limits movement. I've explicitly said on here that grime wouldn't have come to exist at all outside of the environment of early 00s London.

    You're also implying that people need to see people that look like like them involved with a genre of music before they'll listen to it which is a universally insulting idea. No one bought Wiley white labels BITD because they knew he rolled with Geeneus, thinking about it there were probably some people buying those instros who had no idea what race Wiley was. No one felt or should feel like a "wagonist" because - in the sense of the word you are using - that is a deadout 2015 American identity politics idea.

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    I think you've done quite the same with what I said, but never mind. I don't feel nearly strongly enough as to argue about it; apologies if I caused offence. Peace.

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    Grime is black music

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    I just feel sorry for all the asian yutes right now just forever being left out in the cold during "race wars".
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    It's music bro, what the fuck does it have to do with Race....Is Discarda black? Is Slimzee black? Is the owner of Rinse FM Geeneus black? Is Danny Weed black? Come one man, what the fuck has race got to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husso View Post
    I just feel sorry for all the asian yutes right now just forever being left out in the cold during "race wars".
    Why would they be mentioned though, they haven't contributed to any form of popular entertainment tbf. They don't play football, they don't get involved in popular music etc. They pretty much don't adapt to Western life at all

    They just try leech off black culture while slyly wishing we would die 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrRiskoe View Post
    It's music bro, what the fuck does it have to do with Race....Is Discarda black? Is Slimzee black? Is the owner of Rinse FM Geeneus black? Is Danny Weed black? Come one man, what the fuck has race got to do with it.
    Yeah Danny Weed is mixed race still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceldama View Post
    Kwam and Discarda are currently arguing with someone who admitted they only goggled the genre 15 minutes ago but has decided whites appropriated it, says it all
    That girl told Hij to "google grime" as if that's not literally what she just did lol.
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    Shall I tell u the realest truth

    The type of kids from areas that grime 1st come out from don't even give a shit about grime like that lol and most people can't even tell u what grime is or the difference between rap lol

    And White kids "support" today's #grime more than black kids




    But that don't change the fact #grime is another form of black music.

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