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    There's only 40 running - extra horses are on stand-by in case others are pulled out, but not all will run in the race.

    Runners here, subject to change:

    http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/ca...ate=2011-04-09

    Royal Rosa is now 40 instead of 41; Our Monty is out of the race. The other horses below these can be more or less discounted now as they won't get in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FG View Post
    There's only 40 running - extra horses are on stand-by in case others are pulled out, but not all will run in the race.


    cheers bro

    well heres the list of 40 runners anyway with a bit off info about the horses will match the horses to members later if i get time

    good luck all on Saturday and its off at 16.15 live on the BBC

    1. 1-P070 Don't Push It (23 days) 11 11-10 (CD) Jonjo O'Neil 160
    Now on 7 lbs higher mark for 5 length 2010 success (153), from Black Appalachi, State Of Play 10-11 well beaten 3rd. Trainer in excellent form at the time. Don't Push It goes in to race in better form than last year. 10th of 23 Pertemps (3m) Hurdle, outpaced before staying on. Often made mistakes and inconsistent over conventional fences, yet took well to Aintree. Fact no top weight has won since Red Rum is a coincidence. If both first 11-5 and second 11-6 had carried top weight of 11-10 last year; 20 lengths back to third suggests they'd still finish 1st and 2nd. Top weights have a good strike rate of placing. Ground was good last year, probably equally effective on soft. A P McCoy


    2. 4-3226 Tidal Bay (22 days) 10 11-9 Howard Johnson 159
    6th in Gold Cup is fair form, but again looked irresolute. Dropping himself out before staying on passed beaten rivals. Flattered second to Imperial Commander in Betfair Chase, out the back when winning rider went for home in earnest a long way from home. Tidal Bay is temperamental and unlikely to take to Aintree. Not sure to stay the trip, but laziness will help in that respect. B Hughes


    3. U-7744 Vic Venturi (23 days) 11 11-6 (C) Dessie Hughes (Irish trained) 156
    12 lengths behind The Midnight Club in Bobbyjo (3 m) Chase last time. Under sustained pressure some way out and outpaced. Won 2009 Becher Chase (3m2f), but failed all three attempts at 3m5f+, twice in Irish National. Out of contention when unseated Grand National. Looks Exposed. A Lynch


    4. 11-524 What A Friend (22 days) 8 11-6 Paul Nicholls 156
    Well-handicapped. 4th in Gold Cup under Saturday's rider Darryl Jacob, showing more enthusiasm than usual in first time blinkers. Threw away winning chance in AON chase time before, found little and hung in behind winner. Won twice at this meeting. Doubts remain if headgear will work second time and/or if he'll take to these unique fences. Needs holding up until the last moment. D Jacob


    5. 2/1-31 Majestic Concorde (101 days) 8 11-5 Dermott Weld (Irish) 155
    Jumped well when winning Paddy Power Chase (good) at Leopardstown (Dec 29th) on his first try at 3 miles, unraced since but runs well fresh. Pace wasn't good there and won through speed. Though judged by his flat career, 4th in Chester Cup, has plenty of stamina. Probably equally effective on soft and good going. Lightly raced and could improve again. Mr R McNamara


    6. 42F14 Or Noir De Somoza (132 days) 9 11-5 David Pipe 155
    Ex-French. Off 8 months prior to only previous run for Pipe yard, at inadequate trip of 2m1f. 22 lengths 4th of 5 to Master Minded in 09 Victor Chandler. Better than that. Won Grade 2 Prix Georges in 09 (2m6f); 4th of 9 (trained by C Avert) to top French horse Rubi Ball in same race last time. Won listed chase penultimate start. Raced almost exclusively on a soft surface. 3m+ form figures read F97F. Sire produced stayer Poker De Sivola, but dam won hurdle at only 1m7f. T Scudamore


    7. F24-41 Dooneys Gate (65 days) 10 11-4 Willie Mullins (Irish) 154
    Won Kilcash Chase (2 ½m) Clonmel, made most under trainer's son last time out. Ran well, mistake 3 out over these fences in Topham Chase to be 4th off 9 lbs lower mark than Saturday (improved since). Stays 3 miles, but unlikely to get 4 ½. Effective on good and heavy ground. Mr P W Mullins


    8. -2F44 Big Fella Thanks (35 days) 9 11-1 Ferdy Murphy 151
    In truth never run to his best when going in to two Grand Nationals a well-handicapped horse. Stamina doubts remain. Now off 5 lbs higher mark than when 4th as favourite last term (146), after improved run in Greatwood at Newbury. Fair 4th in same race off 149 last time. Poor finisher, often cruising over final fence only to find little. Jumping not yet as good for new yard this season. G Lee


    9. 05-244 The Tother One (70 days) 10 11-0 Paul Nicholls 150
    Well-handicapped on 4th in Hennessey Gold Cup off a mark 6 lbs higher than on Saturday. Trip should not be a problem. However, is a poor jumper, inconsistent, temperamental and with a poor strike rate since novice hurdle days. Highly unlikely to take to this test. Mr R Mahon


    10. 11-112 Ballabriggs (35 days) 10 11-0 Donald McCain 150
    On short-list since winning Fulke Walwyn at Cheltenham Festival in 2010, upped 10 lbs for that. In clear lead over the last before tied up badly, just got home (3m1½f). Value more than winning distances. Again found less than expected when beaten at Kelso last time (2¾m). Has a good win to run ratio and usually jumps well. Trained by son of Ginger McCain of Red Rum fame. J Maguire


    11. 133-21 The Midnight Club(45 days) 10 10-13 Willie Mullins (Irish) 149
    On pure form not especially well-handicapped. However, breeding and style of running suggest he's capable of considerably better over further. Never nearer 3rd in both Spa Hurdle (3m) and Jewson Handicap (2m5f) at Cheltenham Festival. Outpaced before staying on best of all each occasion. By Flemensfirth, sire of Imperial Commander, Time For Rupert, King John's Castle (2nd in National). Out of 3 mile winner from family of Toby Tobias. Unlucky 2nd Thyestes Chase, then won Bobbyjo (3m). Travelled and jumped well, idled run-in and better than distances indicate. Stable mate Arbor Supreme now 10 lbs better off for just length beating. Equally effective on soft and good. R Walsh


    12. 9P-F58Niche Market(35 days) 10 10-13 Paul Nicholls 149
    Ideal Grand National type. Won 09 Irish National (3m5f) under H Skelton. Trained by Bob Buckler prior to this season. Dropped 7 lbs since placed for second time in Hennessey Gold Cup. 5th off 156, 3rd off 148 in 09. Despite reappearance fall usually jumps well, best on good or good-soft ground. Disappointed in Grand National when then trainer out of form and hold up tactics used; usually races prominently. Had wind operation prior to last run and trainer has excellent record with such horses. 8th in Greatwood Chase last time came over wholly inadequate trip of 2 ½ miles. H Skelton


    13. 21-071Silver By Nature(49 days) 9 10-12 Lucinda Russell 148
    Well-handicapped. Easy 15 length winner of Haydock National Trial (3½ miles, soft), off 1 lb higher mark (149). Runner-up Ballyfitz franked form with 2nd in Midlands National. Slightly rounded action and form indicate preference for a soft surface. However, trainer's other half Peter Scudamore believes it's just a need for a test. Sire Silver Patriarch won St Leger (good-firm) and grand dam Dalkey Sound 2nd Scottish National (good). Every chance more to come at 4½m. Jumps well. Seeks to be first grey and Scottish winner since Nicholas Silver and Rubstic. P Buchannan


    14. 57011 Backstage(34 days, point) 9 10-12 Gordon Elliott (Irish) 148
    Well backed for this after small Point to point win in Ireland. Trained by up and coming and 07 (Silver Birch) National winning trainer. Connections believe best on sound surface. Encouragingly, travelled well in Grand National before brought down 20th fence last year (same mark as Saturday). 3m1f winner. Dam more a speed influence and not certain to get significantly further. P Carberry


    15. 1-753F Chief Dan George (25 days) 11 10-12 James Moffatt 148
    6 lbs higher mark than when winning 2010 William Hill (Spinal Research) Handicap Chase (3m½f good); fell in this year's race. Not looked in same form so far this season. Inconsistent profile, but possibly best in the Spring nowadays. Only 4 lbs better off with Ballabriggs for 8 length beating at Kelso. 5th in 2009 Scottish Grand National (4m) implies he'll stay this trip. P Aspell


    16. 56242 Calgary Bay (70 days) 8 10-10 Henrietta Knight 146
    One of best looking horses in training. Good 2nd to Wishfull Thinking (2m5f good-soft) off 143 last time. Jumped well but found little. Best performance to win Doncaster handicap (3m good-firm) by 7 lengths off 142. Unlikely stayer, took hold and didn't get home 2010 Gold Cup (3m2½f). H Frost


    17. P-2536 Killyglen (35 days) 9 10-10 Stuart Crawford (Irish) 146
    Ex-English top novice for Howard Johnson, won Mildmay Novices Chase at Aintree (3m1f good-soft). Also ran well to be 2nd to Wogan in 2010 Grimthorpe (3m2f good-firm). Well-handicapped on that form. Changed stables and yet to prove as good; bit free in same race, weakened in straight last time, 6th of 8 finishers. Possibly needs to lead / view of the front to jump fences well and maintain enthusiasm. Inconsistent. Best runs on good-firm to good-soft. D O'Regan


    18. 52-263 Oscar Time (45 days) 10 10-9 Martin Lynch (Irish) 145
    First race for 7 weeks, travelled well long way, 3rd to The Midnight Club in Bobbyjo. Now 4 lbs better off for 5 length beating. Fitness possibly played a part but often finds little. No need for pressure to win Irish Paddy Power (3m). Upped 17 lbs, looked Irish National (3m5f) winner on turn for home. Length down at last yet lost another 3½ on short run-in. Plenty of stamina in dam's pedigree, however most of sire Oscar's progeny don't need a test. Oscar Time is certainly not crying out for a trip. Raced mainly on a soft surface. Jumps well. Jockey trying two feats, first winning amateur since Marcus Armytage on Mr Frisk and Gold Cup / National double. Mr S Whaley-Cohen


    19. 0-1131 Quinz (42 days) 7 10-8 Philip Hobbs 144
    Racing Post Chase winner (3m soft), looked beaten as Mount Oscar came upsides, fought back and going away again at line. Progressive and well-handicapped if form can be believed, almost every other runner error prone. 7 year old but French breds mature quicker. More experience than most novices, mistakes all three chase starts last season. Only loss this term behind Time For Rupert. Jumps far better nowadays, possibly needs to race prominently to continue to do so. Winner on good-firm and soft. Should get further than 3m but another 1½m is questionable. R Johnson


    20. 508423 Northern Alliance (44 days) 10 10-8 Tony Martin (Irish) 144
    Trainer had excellent record in major handicaps, but the Handicapper rarely takes chances with his runners nowadays. Dropped just 3 lbs since 8th of 12 finishers in Paddy Power (2m5f Good) in December. Last win in 09 Kerry National (3m Good-soft). Well below form last time, 19 lengths behind In Compliance. Raced from 2 to 3 miles, unlikely stayer. B Geraghty


    21. 212-42Becauseicouldntsee(101 days) 8 10-8 Noel Glynn (Irish) 144
    Not seen since late December. Now 2lbs better off with Majestic Concorde for a 2½ length beating when second in Irish Paddy Power (3m soft). Just one mistake of note in National Hunt Chase (4m Good) at Cheltenham as a novice last year. Every reason to believe will be better than ever returned to an extreme trip and is built for Aintree. Lively outsider. D Russell


    22. 00-06P Comply Or Die (42 days) 12 10-8 (CD) David Pipe 144
    2008 Winner and runner up in 2009. Nowhere near that form, 12th of 14 finishers off a mark of 153 in 2010. Obviously trained for this, but no real promise in three starts this term. Pulled up in almost unraceable ground in Eider Chase last time. Best blinkered, on good or good-soft. Likes to race prominently / have some room. Veteran and probably on the downgrade. T Murphy


    23. FF25P Quolibet (25 days) 7 10-8 Jonjo O'Neil 144
    50/1 pulled up only British start in Cross-Country Chase at Cheltenham last time. 5th penultimate start, trained by Francois Doumen; 6 lbs better off for just 2 lengths behind Or Noir De Somoza in (2¾m heavy). Poor strike rate, unproven over further and had three falls in a row. M P Walsh


    24. 1FP18P Grand Slam Hero (63 days) 10 10-7 Nigel Twiston-Davies 143
    Fruitful summer campaign, won all four completed starts including Summer Plate. Still looked on upgrade after final success (August, 3m1½f). Now off 5 lbs higher mark. Never jumping with any fluency in two well spaced out races since. Possibly something physically wrong. A Coleman


    25. 454-P6 Roll Along (49 days) 11 10-7 Nigel Twiston-Davies 143
    Thrown in on best form of 2008 /09. Won at Ascot (3m good) and 24 lengths 6th to Kauto Star in Gold Cup (good-soft). Nowhere near as good since. Travelled well before weakening badly straight (3m) last time out off same mark as Saturday. Looks increasingly temperamental. W Hutchinson


    26. 44/P3- State Of Play (364 days) 11 10-6 Evan Williams 142
    Placed in two Grand Nationals, not seen since but great record fresh. Dropped 3 lbs for finishing 3rd he might seem well treated. However, 4th off a mark of 150, then 3rd from 145; and now only 10 lbs better off with Don't Push It for 25 length beating. Trainer considers him best on a sound surface although won 2006 Hennessey on softish ground. Probably only place prospects again. P Maloney


    27. 1-11P5 King Fontaine (25 days) 8 10-6 Malcom Jefferson 142
    Several jumping errors last two starts. Only 5th off 2 lbs better mark in Spinal Research Chase, 32 lengths behind winner Bensalem. Pulled up in another big field (3½m). Not many sired by King's Theatre are true stayers. Upped 13 lbs since last win. Proven on heavy and good going. D O'Regan


    28. 341U In Compliance (20 days) 11 10-5 Dessie Hughes (Irish) 141
    By Old Vic, sire of first two home in 2010 and dam's sire Montelimar responsible for Hedgehunter. However, weakened late over furthest he's tackled so far, 3m1f, in 2007 Punchestown Gold Cup (best season to race). Well fancied for 2007 Gold Cup before injury. On downgrade. Unseated last time, not first mistake. First time blinkered, easy lead to win penultimate start (2m2f soft). L Aspell


    29. 75P-1P Hello Bud (84 days) 13 10-5 (C) Nigel Twiston-Davies 141
    Age statistics are against him, but unlike most teenagers was still improving at 11, so age is not as big a worry. Won 09 Scottish National (4m Good-firm) off 133. Successful again off same mark in Becher Chase (3¼m Heavy) in November. Looked weak race for the money and 8 lb rise bit harsh. 5th in Grand National, off just 1 lb lower (140) than Saturday. Pulled up in Classic Chase last time out. Races up with pace and sometimes finds less than expected off the bridle. S Twiston-Davies


    30. 07-11P West End Rocker (49 days) 9 10-5 Alan King 141
    Acted on soft to win Classic Chase at Warwick (3m5f). Upped 8 lbs for ¾ length victory over Minella Boys with 8 back to Incentivise, idled and more in hand than distances indicate. Has action which suggests will be at least as good on a sound surface. Possibly lost action and quickly pulled up on heavy last time out. Lightly raced stayer, lively outsider if all is well with him. R Thornton


    31. 207710 Santa's Son (22 days) 11 10-5 Howard Johnson 141
    Appeared back to some form with this trainer, won 2½m hurdle penultimate start. Possibly amiss, 100/1 16th of 18 in Grand Annual (2m½f) last time. Often sulks if unable to lead. Won on soft and firm surface. No win in 7 attempts at 3m+ earlier in career, unraced at trip since 2007. J Moore


    32. 21-046 Bluesea Cracker (45 days) 9 10-4 James Motherway (Irish) 140
    Trying to become first of her sex to win since Nickel Coin in 1951. Recently purchased by JP McManus. Off 13 weeks prior to last of 6 finishers final start. Every chance before turn and heavily eased after chance had gone in Bobbyjo (3m). Fair 4th at Cheltenham in November (3m3f½f good-soft) penultimate start. Improved form, won Irish National last season (3m5f heavy), finding much more than runner-up Oscar Time who is 5 lbs better off for 4½ lengths. Stayers on both sides of pedigree, including Grand National runner-up (to Grittar) Hard Outlook. Could improve further back up in trip. Raced almost exclusively on a soft surface. A McNamara


    33. 391059That's Rhythm (120 days) 11 10-4 Martin Todhunter 140
    In and out of form. Disappointing 9th in December, possible physical problem. Fair 14 lengths 5th in Charlie Hall penultimate start. Bangor specialist, all 3 wins there, latest by 9 lengths off 133 3m½f good-soft. Also effective firm surface. Fallen in last two Scottish Nationals.


    34. 2111/0 Surface To Air (27 days) 10 10-4 Chris Bealby 140
    Progressive form before reportedly suffered a tendon injury when winning 4 mile Summer National in June 08 (third win in succession). First run since then, last of 10 in handicap hurdle at Market Rasen. Impossible to know if he's still got any ability. Form on good and good-soft. T Messenger


    35. 234PP Piraya (23 days) 8 10-4 David Pipe 140
    Back to his recalcitrant days, pulled up in Byrne Group Handicap last time out. Good placed efforts earlier in season, 2nd to Woolcombe Folly at 2m1f and 3rd to Mount Oscar at 2½ miles. Yet to run to form at 3 miles plus in Britain, despite many tries. 13th of 14 finishers in Grand National. J Farrelly


    36. F-8P5PCan't Buy Time(23 days) 9 10-4 Jonjo O'Neil 140
    Lightly raced. Bad mistake and pulled up last time out in Fulke Walwyn. Best start this term when 6¼ lengths 5th off 142 to Tartak in 2m5f handicap at Cheltenham in January. Winner of same race off 141 in 2010. Unseated and fell in two Grand Nationals. Travelled well long way, failed to stay when favourite, 4th in 09 National Hunt Chase. Winner on soft and good. Inconsistent. R McLernon


    37. 30563 Character Building (35 days) 11 10-4 John Quinn 140
    Balls of steel needed, won 09 Fulke Walwyn (3m1½f good-soft) off 139, led on line. Pulls himself up in front and inconsistent. 7th (off 145) in Grand National, made up a lot of places on final circuit and now off 5 lb lower mark. 12 lbs better off with Don't Push It for 36 lengths. Fair 14 length 3rd off 135 last time (3m2f good). Should be suited by a return to further. Could we have a real National Velvet in the year of Elizabeth Taylor's death? Ms Nina Carberry


    38. 51P/52 Ornais (36 days) 9 10-4 Paul Nicholls 140
    Good novice in 07/08, difficult to know how much ability retains. Nowhere near best in 2 hunter chases on first starts for 2 years, latest at Newbury (2m6½f). Runs with a low head carriage (long neck). Stamina doubts, only 5th when had form to win 4 mile 08 National Hunt Chase. N Scholfield


    39. 2U-9P2 Arbor Supreme (45 days) 9 10-3 Willie Mullins (Irish) 139
    Well-handicapped. Length 2nd to The Midnight Club in Bobbyjo Chase. Oscar Time 4 lengths, Vic Venturi 7, and Bluesea Cracker 20 lengths back. Yet is respectively 10, 6, 12 and 1 lb better off with all of them. Rider cajoled an effort out of Arbor Supreme, never going for “everything”. Seemed less than willing in the past, best handled tenderly. Did not take to Aintree last year, already beaten when unseating at the Chair. Inconsistent. Stays at least 3¾ miles, acts on good and heavy. D Casey


    40. Royal Rosa
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    Vic Venturi and State of play, could be worse i suppose.
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    ok so heres the official entrys as of now they may be subject to change

    1. bigdon - Dooneys Gate/Piraya
    2. Negative - Don't Push It/Quolibet
    3. Jimmer - Or Noir De Somoza/Royal Rosa
    4. Keyser Söze - Bluesea Cracker/Backstage
    5. Tony Starks - The Midnight Club/Chief Dan George
    6. Gazza - Northern Alliance/Niche Market
    7. 50 Cedis - Vic Ventury/Calgary Bay
    8. 100% - Quinz/In Compliance
    9. Johnny S - Killyglen/Becauseicouldntsee
    10. kiev123 - Arbor Supreme/Tidal Bay
    11. Parrr - Oscar Time/Ballabriggs
    12. Sean - Majestic Concorde/Silver By Nature
    13. JamieQpr - State Of Play/What A Friend
    14. sosa - Hello Bud/Big Fella Thanks
    15. Hackney's Hustler - Comply Or Die/Surface To Air
    16. Lengman - Roll Along/West End Rocker
    17. Scrappy123 - Ornais/King Fontaine
    18. Absolute - Santa's Son/Grand Slam Hero
    19. easyfam - Can't Buy Time/That's Rhythm
    20. Hickory Dickory - Character Building/The Tother One

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    the winner takes 4250 points

    2nd place - 2000 points

    3rd place - 1000 points

    4th place - 500 points

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    Any links to see how good these horses are ?
    Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    Any links to see how good these horses are ?
    few to check these seem the best

    http://www.grand-national-guide.co.u...ional-form.php
    http://www.attheraces.com/card.aspx?...&nav=racecards
    http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/ca...ate=2011-04-09

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    One of my horses
    "Several jumping errors last two starts"

    The other one

    "A Good novice"

    great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keyser Söze View Post
    Any links to see how good these horses are ?
    You have a pretty good hand. Remember last year when you had a bag of shit
    "Trust me London, about Real Deep. Where you going with Real Deep? You know what yeah can I say one thing London? I wanna say one thing. Roll Deep - Real Deep. Just check that out, check that out. Did he even try hard to start a new crew and start a new name? I know I'm carrying going on yeah but I'm not having it blud, I'm not having it. Hold tight Jamakabi, I'm not having it, I'm slewing you I said that."

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    wanted to grab one kmt

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    Mine changed, on what a friend and state of play now. That's better.

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    What a Friend has a great chance and theres talk it could go off favourite on Saturday and is co-owned by Sir Alex Ferguson

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    Not much of a chance with my horses.. U never kno tho.

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    Silver by nature will take this all day long - 13 unlucky for some watch me win.

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    final lineup ive added the changes

    good luck all

    1. bigdon - Dooneys Gate/Character Building
    2. Negative - Don't Push It/Grand Slam Hero
    3. Jimmer - Or Noir De Somoza/Golden Kite
    4. Keyser Söze - Surface To Air/Backstage
    5. Tony Starks - The Midnight Club/Chief Dan George
    6. Gazza - Becauseicouldntsee/Niche Market
    7. 50 Cedis - Vic Ventury/Calgary Bay
    8. 100% - Quinz/West End Rocker
    9. Johnny S - Killyglen/Comply Or Die
    10. kiev123 - Skippers Brig/Tidal Bay
    11. Parrr - Oscar Time/Ballabriggs
    12. Sean - Majestic Concorde/Silver By Nature
    13. JamieQpr - In Compliance/What A Friend
    14. sosa - Santa's Son/Big Fella Thanks
    15. Hackney's Hustler - Quolibet/Can't Buy Time
    16. Lengman - King Fontaine/Bluesea Cracker
    17. Scrappy123 - Royal Rosa/Hello Bud
    18. Absolute - That's Rhythm/State of Play
    19. easyfam - Ornais/Piraya
    20. Hickory Dickory - Arbor Supreme/The Tother One

    research the horses here

    http://www.attheraces.com/card.aspx?...&nav=racecards

    http://www.racingpost.com/horses2/ca...ate=2011-04-09

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny S View Post
    how come mine changed?
    not sure bro some get withdrawn and some get number changes

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    Golden Kite was the last horse to get in... Do not fail me.

    I dont understand though. If Royal Rosa hasnt been withdrawn then how come I dont just keep the horses I started with?

    Pissed if scrappy wins with that horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmer View Post
    Golden Kite was the last horse to get in... Do not fail me.

    I dont understand though. If Royal Rosa hasnt been withdrawn then how come I dont just keep the horses I started with?

    Pissed if scrappy wins with that horse.
    im not sure bro they must of selected the numbers today when the final field was selected and few horses withdrawn

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