a lesson for all grime mcs wanting to make pop shit

[Nicky Santoro]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist/



giggs is on the b list with look what the cat dragged in



skepta is only on the c list with rescue me



shows that staying true to your roots >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



hope giggs gets high its sick tune

[100%]

i told da mandem 2 not argue
nuts toilet, buck bathroom!

[adidasgrandad]

grime mc's aren't signed to XL though. they got him on the bbc sound of 2010 and they are pretty sick at getting new genres onto the big stations. dizzee was in the same boat 7 years ago.

[Lemon]

how long till it all gets locked off and blocked though...
Wasn't long ago Giggs got his live performances locked off.

Just dunno if UK charts wants UK people talking greezy. They don't mind US people doing it lol.

Hopefully Giggs does well still.
Don't really see how this is a grime thread though lol

[-Lee-]

Giggs is on @ glastonbury this year isnt he? If so, this could be his chance to go big?

*edit*
Lemon, what d'ya mean locked off and blocked? Have a vague idea, just dont wanna mis-enterprit.

[Lemon]

*edit*
Lemon, what d'ya mean locked off and blocked? Have a vague idea, just dont wanna mis-enterprit.

The way they've clamped down on UK urban music, shows getting shut down etc. and just making it altogether harder.

Hopefully times have changed, but I dunno... That recent Form 696 i think it was, making it so much harder to put on events in London etc, and basically targeting live music with 2 decks and an MC.

[Nicky Santoro]

grime mc's aren't signed to XL though. they got him on the bbc sound of 2010 and they are pretty sick at getting new genres onto the big stations. dizzee was in the same boat 7 years ago.

devlin was on that list too



and im showing lemon that staying true to your genre is what its all about


mcs that say they make music to sell are chatting shit



giggs is doing for uk rap/ road rap what grime mcs should be doing for grime

[Lemon]

If they could put grime in the charts easy... Do you think they'd be making watered down crap??

I'm with you on this, but I just dunno how viable it is TBH.

Ghetts had a good way of putting it, in that Grime MCs need to get big in UK doing pop before they can change they're sound back to grime without getting blocked.

Giggs has the advantage though of just rapping over a style that's familiar to UK pop, so hopefully XL can keep pushing him forward.

[Nicky Santoro]

The way they've clamped down on UK urban music, shows getting shut down etc. and just making it altogether harder.

Hopefully times have changed, but I dunno... That recent Form 696 i think it was, making it so much harder to put on events in London etc, and basically targeting live music with 2 decks and an MC.

giggs is getting blocked by the police alot of his gigs no pun get locked off


its a dickhead ting, just dont wana see a former criminal do something positive with his life


and make money , fuck the feds


them tryna say giggs music is guna cause violence at gigs is air now, especially when its in the countryside and they still lock it


form 696 was just any excuse to try suppress our music

[Lemon]

Thing is if they got Form 696 blocking live music
What else they doing behind the scenes to block the rest... Is what you gotta wonder.

Is an interesting debate though still. Don't think it's quite as clear cut or a black and white situation though.
I think with the UK underground scene constantly pushing, for however long it's been now and continuing, then eventually it's gonna happen.
Giggs could be the man to do it or at least push things further.

[Nicky Santoro]

If they could put grime in the charts easy... Do you think they'd be making watered down crap??

I'm with you on this, but I just dunno how viable it is TBH.

Ghetts had a good way of putting it, in that Grime MCs need to get big in UK doing pop before they can change they're sound back to grime without getting blocked.

Giggs has the advantage though of just rapping over a style that's familiar to UK pop, so hopefully XL can keep pushing him forward.

i aint saying its easy, but isnt it better to try that then try alternatives, if you fail,


how many grime singles did tinchy, chippy and skepta try chart before going mersh


you cant say its hard if you dont try


tinchy had a cutla singles on his first album

[Andre]

people prefer road rap to grime cos there's less bullshit in the scene and politics

[Lemon]

i aint saying its easy, but isnt it better to try that then try alternatives, if you fail,

how many grime singles did tinchy, chippy and skepta try chart before going mersh

These guys will have spoken to A&R's etc though and know what's happening.
Tinchy's earlier singles had a more grime feel to them as well.

[Nicky Santoro]

Thing is if they got Form 696 blocking live music
What else they doing behind the scenes to block the rest... Is what you gotta wonder.

Is an interesting debate though still. Don't think it's quite as clear cut or a black and white situation though.
I think with the UK underground scene constantly pushing, for however long it's been now and continuing, then eventually it's gonna happen.
Giggs could be the man to do it.

thats the good thing, they cant suppress the music forever


and i agree i am making it sound alot more simple than it seems i believe there is a movement tryna to suppress any form of uk rap or grime behind the scenes


unless its pop made by non threating characters like tinchy chipmunk etc

[Wiz]

Chipmunk n Tinchy got #1s with pop so pop wins in the end

[Nicky Santoro]

These guys will have spoken to A&R's etc though and know what's happening.
Tinchy's earlier singles had a more grime feel to them as well.

true, and i cant put all the blame on them


i really liked his first album


that was done indie init

[Lemon]

true, and i cant put all the blame on them


i really liked his first album


that was done indie init

Think Tinchy was vaguely with Island or whoever he was with by then??

Not sure TBH, swear someone was backing him with tunes like Breakaway, that smile track, Stryderman.

[Nicky Santoro]

Think Tinchy was vaguely with Island or whoever he was with by then??

Not sure TBH, swear someone was backing him with tunes like Breakaway, that smile track, Stryderman.

he was with an indie label for his first then stryderman got him signed



the guys that are his management now were his record label before


they must be caked by now



the lib dem's son


remember the article

[SimonCowellOfGrime]

he was with an indie label for his first then stryderman got him signed



the guys that are his management now were his record label before


they must be caked by now



the lib dem's son


remember the article

Yeah Jack and Archie, they've now got Jodie Connor on their label. Their dad took out a massive Loan to get enough money to sign Tinchy, get Merchandise etc.

[alphabet]

i dont understand how man can respect certain man like skepta after what hes done with too many man rescue me bad boy etc he should be banished from the scene