Carlos Vela >>>>>

[Hij]

There will always be Wenger doubters but I can only speak for myself, the man has worked wonders for Arsenal & I apreciate what he has done for my club but I see your point.

I'm not saying I doubt Wenger. I think hes a class act. Hes doing the best by your CLUB, rather than by his own pocket/ego which is similar to Benitez up the M1, which is why I rate him.

He's even more so that Benitez coz hes trying to spend less on players to help your club, its really admirable. But success must be a priority often,.

[nortside]

Relax about what?

You don't see me making threads and threads for the last 4 years like every other fucking Arsenal fan talking about the 'great future' and the 'Kids' like theres gonna be some new world order.

Every year and every week of the season I have to put up with 'The youngest side ever fielded by Arsenal' the 'Talented Youth', the 'abundance of quality in reserve' which they bang on and on and on and on about in the press.

And yet YOU DONT FUCKING WIN ANYTHING.

Fucking does my nut in. FUCK WHAT WE'VE WON EVER- Im not comparing ARSENAL TO LIVERPOOL, IM saying that if your gonna bleat on about these amazing youngsters and how fucking next level they are, then please for the love of god, win SOMETHING other than the Emirates cup.

Shits disgusting these days. Fucking Sheffield United in a fucking Carling Cup game and man is hailed as the next Maradona.

Paul Merson agrees with me, which is jokes, as the mans a rattling ex alcoholic and we never agree. Must be nearing recovery.

look if arsenal fans wanna make threads thats up to them, im not the type to make threads after 1 game, but at the same time if you are so quick to get upset about arsenal fans talking about arsenal players you got issues

when i read papers, go on the internet, listen to radio i have to hear things i don't always like but i don't have a heart attack about it

and if you gonna diss my club im obviously gonna bring your club into it, thats football logic, so you can't say forget liverpool cos if u as a liverpool fan diss arsenal, then an arsenal fan is gonna say wait a minute your team ain't in the best shape

[The Messiah]

This is totally different to the nonsense being spouted after a 1-0 loss to Fulham. People were beginning to question him. And if you come away trophyless again (IF, I haven't said a) you will or b) anything to do with Liverpool) then maybe these arguments will become stronger.

Although the win against Sheffield United was impressive and no doubt Arsenal will be a force in years to come, my doubts about Wenger's decisions this still remain. Although we've got Diaby, Eduardo and Rosicky to come back from injury, one or two injuries could really fuck up our season. We still need another experienced central midfielder in my opinion, we need a defender that is comfortable with high balls in the air and happy with heading the ball away all day - that's was Senderos who's at Milan. Pretty much all the goals Arsenal have conceded this season have been due to crosses/corners/long balls through the middle of defence. I'm sure SAF, Benitez and Scolari have noticed.

[Hij]

when i read papers, go on the internet, listen to radio i have to hear things i don't always like but i don't have a heart attack about it

and if you gonna diss my club im obviously gonna bring your club into it, thats football logic, so you can't say forget liverpool cos if u as a liverpool fan diss arsenal, then an arsenal fan is gonna say wait a minute your team ain't in the best shape

Lol at heart attack. Nah I do get passionate, but Im a passionate guy when it comes to football.

But nah, I should be able to comment as a neutral on Arsenal, their manager and their players without having stuff directed automatically at my club. For instance, if I supported St Albans town, its not like what I said wouldn't be any more credible or if what I said wasn't credible, its not like I wouldn't be entitled to my my 'wrong' opinion regardless of me supporting a shit team in comparison to Arsenal.

My opinion is that until these kids at Arsenal, muscle on to win some major trophies and write themselves into history themselves, then the hype at a couple of Carling cup victories per season, or the debut of a player (Jack Wilshere) is all a bit ridiculously really.

Every season for nearly 5 years, the media talk about 'The Kids', but where is the current end product, because I don't see one. And we could be bottom of the table and it would still be a valid point from me IMO.

If you go onto win the League/FA Cup or the Champions League, I'll hold my hands up and accept that Wenger has moulded a winning side from 'Kids' and much less resources than his counterparts. But until that point, it does get a little tiring reading the emphatic articles and having these supposedly expert journalistic hacks throwing superlatives at them like say they were Cristiano Ronaldo with a European Cup and Premier League medal in their collections from last season.

If Carlos Vela puts a hattrick past Aston Villa, Liverpool, Chelsea or Manchester United, we can safely assume he has announced himself to the Premier League then.

[Hij]

Although the win against Sheffield United was impressive and no doubt Arsenal will be a force in years to come, my doubts about Wenger's decisions this still remain. Although we've got Diaby, Eduardo and Rosicky to come back from injury, one or two injuries could really fuck up our season. We still need another experienced central midfielder in my opinion, we need a defender that is comfortable with high balls in the air and happy with heading the ball away all day - that's was Senderos who's at Milan. Pretty much all the goals Arsenal have conceded this season have been due to crosses/corners/long balls through the middle of defence. I'm sure SAF, Benitez and Scolari have noticed.

But will you be a force in years to come? Will players such as Adeybayor and Flamini (not including Hleb as you said he was pants) continue to believe they are bigger than the club and the wage structure and look to move away and how will that impact on the clubs improvement and development?

That would be my only concern. The side does look frightening though I must admit

[Grimes]

Hij's unholy war against arsenal continues

[Quality Control]

most of these amazing arsenal youngsters will either hit a wall or even decline in talent and/or move clubs before hitting their peak

arsenal are a selling club

[The Messiah]

But will you be a force in years to come? Will players such as Adeybayor and Flamini (not including Hleb as you said he was pants) continue to believe they are bigger than the club and the wage structure and look to move away and how will that impact on the clubs improvement and development?

That would be my only concern. The side does look frightening though I must admit

Agree.

Hij's unholy war against arsenal continues

Da Hij Jihad

[Hij]

Agree.


Da Hij Jihad

:D

Missed an open goal tonight like.

[Xtra P]

Shoulda played from the star tbh

['nuum general]

Just kno im gonna taunt you mercilessly after we rape your team, you should have kept quiet lol

who's gonna taunt who mercilessly???

[Xtra P]

who's gonna taunt who mercilessly???

*Eats humble pie*

Fairplay man, Hull fully deserved the win, Arsenal were complacent from the kickoff

[Strife]

lol this thread

[Xtra P]

4 years later and still no silverware



But still Vela >>>>Dos Santos

lul

[Brisboy84]

I'm glad Vela has gone. Another one of those that was bigged up by Wenger but ultimately couldn't deliver. One more from the deadwood gone.

[187]

I'm glad Vela has gone. Another one of those that was bigged up by Wenger but ultimately couldn't deliver. One more from the deadwood gone.

lol

I'm pissed of Wenger refused to play him upfront in a 4-4-2. He could of been sick for us.

With regular playing time he done alot last season double figure goals and assists in La Liga >>>

[RealOnRoad]

Vela was really promising though, shame he never materialised

[DTR]

I remember this, Sheff U fans were took the piss out of for weeks on end by the Sheff Weds fans in school when this happened. Was very very laff indeed.

[Brisboy84]

lol

I'm pissed of Wenger refused to play him upfront in a 4-4-2. He could of been sick for us.

With regular playing time he done alot last season double figure goals and assists in La Liga >>>

He did play him in a front two a couple times, but he wasn't good enough. The height of his career with us as you know was his chipped goals in the Carling Cup. He just suits La Liga better.

I remember this, Sheff U fans were took the piss out of for weeks on end by the Sheff Weds fans in school when this happened. Was very very laff indeed.

What you on about??

[samjackson247]

he has been taken off arsenal.com