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**Quality Control** · 12th November '10, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Jay05

Last time out DeGale shocked me with his power. While he is the better fighter, I like Groves slightly uncultured style. Plus Groves has a few years to mature.

Groves has a weird cross between Froch and Haye style of fighting. DeGale's power in general has surprised me - remember how worried everyone was that he'd be a feather-fisted slapper when he first turned pro? Now he's getting proper leverage on his punches and throwing with really good form. I think he's much more refined than Groves, who doesn't seem to have improved much since he turned pro at all. DeGale should be able to exploit his looping punches and shitty defense and TKO him.

Originally Posted by Jay05

I just found this http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/bunce for anyone who fancies a boxing podcast, haven't checked it out yet.

Cannot stand Bunce.

Originally Posted by Jay05

If Pacman Margarito is a good as the first 5 v Cotto I would of happily paid PPV for it.

Yeah, I'm sure the fight will be explosive, but it doesn't hold much weight as a credible boxing accomplishment at this point.

**arsenal** · 12th November '10, 06:08 PM

Haye vs Harrison whos your money on ?

**Jay05** · 12th November '10, 08:54 PM

The Dilks fight was the first time DeGale fought v anyone of note, not that Dilk is anything but an average English fighter and the way he blew him away convinced me that DeGale has some punch.

DeGale beats Groves now and probably always. Groves style of unloading in bunches means I have a soft spot for him

I have got 10 quid on Haye in the first 3 and 4-6 making 13 or 20 quid.

**Boyder** · 12th November '10, 09:03 PM

Haye Vs Harrison Tomorrow night is the one >>>

**j9t** · 13th November '10, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Boyder

Haye Vs Harrison Tomorrow night is the one >>>

where?

**D.MAN** · 13th November '10, 01:24 PM

**Jay05** · 13th November '10, 10:36 PM

I got Groves wrong, has a big heart but I thought he was better than that, earned a bit on Haye though.

Got 5 quid on Pacman 4-6. Maybe a little early, but I cant see Pacman hanging around too long and if he can counter Margarito or catch him quicker could be brutal.

**Quality Control** · 14th November '10, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Jay05

I got Groves wrong, has a big heart but I thought he was better than that, earned a bit on Haye though.

i missed that one, what happened?

**Jay05** · 14th November '10, 11:00 AM

He thought Kenneth Anderson who is 12 from 12 and it descended into a brawl in the 3rd and Groves went down. He was shocked but not badly hurt but the rest of the 3rd and the 4th they traded blows and Anderson looked like he might get the stoppage.

The 5th was mainly Groves as he avoided brawling and thought smarter, then in the 6th he got the TKO victory.

On the top rank card Mike Jones, who Bob Arum wants to take to England to fight Kell Brook fought Jesus Soto Karass. The fight was action packed and one of the best fights I have seen this year.

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**Keyser Söze** · 16th November '10, 08:15 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/9192282.stm

**D.MAN** · 16th November '10, 09:07 PM

Tyson would have destroyed Lennox, haye and the Klits in his prime say nutten!!!

**Quality Control** · 16th November '10, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by D.MAN

Tyson would have destroyed Lennox, haye and the Klits in his prime say nutten!!!

Lennox >>> Tyson.

**D.MAN** · 16th November '10, 11:12 PM

nuff respect 4 lennox but come on, tyson i his prime

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**Quality Control** · 16th November '10, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by D.MAN

nuff respect 4 lennox but come on, tyson i his prime

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Spinks was a career light heavyweight. Tyson barely beat anyone of note. Certainly no one who makes him better than Lewis (who actually beat Tyson head-to-head lest we forget.)

Most overrated boxer of all time.

**D.MAN** · 16th November '10, 11:36 PM

tysons speed and power b4 prison would have annihilated lewis.

**Quality Control** · 16th November '10, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by D.MAN

tysons speed and power b4 prison would have annihilated lewis.

When did pre-prison Tyson ever fight anyone remotely close to Lewis' level? (Never.)

In fact he get KTFO by a 42-1 underdog.

Tyson's whole mythos is based off "shoulda, woulda, coulda". In reality he's not even a top ten heavyweight.

**D.MAN** · 16th November '10, 11:48 PM

are u saying the klits would beat him in his prime

also just to show how highly i rate lewis i will leave this here

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**Quality Control** · 16th November '10, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by D.MAN

are u saying the klits would beat him in his prime

also just to show how highly i rate lewis i will leave this here

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Actually, no, I'm not saying that. I don't have either of the Klits in my top ten either.

But to answer your question anyway: Wlad, no; Vitali, maybe.

It's funny, though, how the Klit bros are so berated for having weak records and how Tyson is placed on a pedestal when there's not really that much difference between them.

**D.MAN** · 17th November '10, 01:43 AM

its because of their boring styles and easy fights

mike tysons genius trainer Cus ''speed kills'' !

BACK TO 2010

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