oh hai guise wots goin on itt?
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We legitimately knocked them out and then went on to win the CL - I feel he should show a little more respect to us as it seems like a sight dig and him undermining our historical win."For example, Chelsea won the Champions League this year, but the club [Barca] remains the benchmark in world football."
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Haha.. I wouldn't actually rule him out as being a future legend. If he brings the Premier League to the City of Liverpool.. Imagine.
Especially if he does it on limited funds. I also envisage him doing well in Spain. Still not 40 yet, he's on the right path at least.
oh hai guise wots goin on itt?
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when you are playing in a competition...to win things.
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Were Porto/Liverpool/Chelsea whoever, the best team in Europe when they won the CL? Were Greece in 2004? Or is sustained success more of an indicator?
I repeat, find a team who can match 2 CLs, 2 semi finals, 3 league titles in 4 years over the last 20 years.
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Depends what criteria you use to judge a manager tbh
Motivating players ....Mourhino takes that
Transfers(insignificant in Spain doe) Mourhino takes that
Adaptability....Jose
We are talking about a guy who went to Porto won the Champions League, Came to England made Chelsea win their first title since god knows when, then Inter Milan and done the same thing .P.S look what happanned to Inter when he left....
Now he is doing the same ish at Real
Pep has done well for himself but circumstances were ideal for him to do well
When Pep first joined Barca they had Dinho, Messi, Eto, Henry(later), Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Alves, Deco
FFS
Each and every one of those players could get into 99% of most teams starting XI
Mourhino made people like Cambiasso, Samuel, Maicon, Bosingwa (lol) etc....look like world beaters
Jose>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pep
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Exactly, the season where Manchester United won it, their fans said they were the best team in Europe, because they won the Champions League.
The tournament crowns a champion & Chelsea are the Champions of Europe.
However if you do take into a/c where teams have finished in the UCL, league wins & in the recent past then Barcelona, Manchester United & Chelsea are easily the best three teams in Europe.
Edit: @Shower Posse It's seems like he might have but.. Mourinho has never managed Bosingwa, Ferreira was his RB at Porto & Bosingwa replaced Ferreira as he joined Mourinho at Chelsea & then Bosingwa joined Chelsea the season after Mourinho left.
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Last thing before I duck out for the weekend is replying to @Shower Posse
Ronaldinho, Deco were massive parts of the failings before Guardiola took over. He got rid, and built a team around Messi.
He got a good year out of Henry.
Messi and Iniesta were viewed as injury prone and inconsistent before Guardiola arrived. Xavi wasn't rated (certainly in this country).
Puyol's game has benefitted from Guardiola's tactics massively.
His joining the club co-incided with Alves joining.
Cambiasso, Samuel and Maicon are world beaters. A cursory glance at their careers shows that. Bosingwa has never looked like one. Look at the performances Guardiola got out of Abidal and Keita. Then bringing in Busquets and Pedro to replace Toure and Henry, big step. Not something Mourinho has typically done.
No manager has a perfect record.
Mourinho >>>>>>>>> Guardiola.
Pure bias from Xavi in this article.
Lol are you serious? Do you watch the big games that Barca play in?
Messi scores in big games against big teams pretty often. Also how can he be top scorer in the Champions league (and set a record for most goals) and not score against top teams?
I think Messi has something like 13 goals in 15 El Classico games too.
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Thanks bro, it was a great night.Cool European Cup bro
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Pretty much a Team full of cunts.
Iniesta though>>>
"This is Fulham for heavens sake. This is a club which 15 years ago didnt have two brass filings to rub together, which used to play in front of 3 or 4000 rattling around here. Which once played on a night in Rochdale needing points to stay off the bottom of the English League. But were brought by a very rich man, and there he is. And which has now become a hugely enriched club.
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About the fact that Mourinho is a nomad?
I think you are forgetting the Chelsea side of the last 10 years. Most definitely Mourinho's team. His legacy team/squad will come when he decides to settle.
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Lol I could go to barca & win them trophies like Pep did.
Mourinho have done his ting going to several clubs winning every league.
The real test for any big manager is to go to a small club & win big ya zimme.
I swear if Pep goes to a big club in a year he ain't gonna win a thing, watch.
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pep walked into a team with stupid talent and a young guy named messi who was destined to be the greatest
my man wouldnt get europa league football with fulham or bolton so lets leave it there
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TBF I know Mourinho is clearly a brilliant manager but everywhere he has been he has had a brilliant team or the backing to build a brilliant team. Taking away from Pep's record just because the best players in the team were already there ain't fair IMO.
Fergie will be remembered as by far the best manager of this period anyway r/s.
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mourinho built chelsea..
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Ranieri brought in a lot of the players Mourinho won the league with.
Cech, Robben, Lampard, Duff, Makelele, Bridge, Gallas and Joe Cole were all Ranieri signings.
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Thanks bro, it was a great night.
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He didn't lose a home game in 9 years with 4 different teams(streak ended April 2011), he won the first ever Ballon d'Or best coach award and he won the first ever treble ever in Italian football history. Also, since 2002 he hasn't gone a full calendar year without winning at least one trophy.
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Yep, Xavi is totally right, Jose will not go down in football history, the fucking dickhead.
Jose>Pep.
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