Why have you not given up with grime?

[Dilll]

To all MCs, producers or anyone getting involved with grime I want to know what makes you carry on making grime. People say grime peaked 3 years ago and that it's only going downhill if this is true then why are you bothering to continue?

I'm not asking this like an idiot I love grime I just want to know what motivates you, do you believe there is a chance grime can make it? or are you just doing it for passion?

I started learning to produce and MC at the start of this year and I'm having a great time doing it but the future of grime is off putting but should it be? If I love doing something then I don't give a fuck about money as long as I have another source of cash.

I can't vocal hip hop beats my accent just doesn't fit and I find it no where near as fun as MCing over grime so I feel I shouldn't force myself to switch to hip hop I've thought long and hard about it on two occasions but my instincts tell me to stick with grime and I feel the instrumentals ALOT more than the hip hop ones.

Personally I think grime can make it but not if we carry on with how we're doing it which is a shame really, what I'm trying to say is all the top MCs spit grease and talk bout shanks and shit which I don't have a problem with but our music society seems too, this is completely unfair considering gangsta rap from the westcoast was allowed to talk about guns and stuff and the punters loved and bought it. Now we're in the situation where hip hop is dominating sales and grime is getting frowned upon because we're developing the same way westcoast hip hop did back in the 70s/80s?!?!?

I'm from Portsmouth and I know an extremely small handful of people that listen to grime but the rest just say "fuck that grimes greasy nigga music, make hip hop" they're right it some context I guess but when they listen to there Dirty Dike, Rhyme Asylum and all that UK hip hop they forget the fact that hip hop was infact 'greasy nigga music' at the start. We're in a world where people follow whats 'cool' and what makes money so everyone thinks hip hop is the answer because grime isn't allowed to be the answer.

Hip hop labels are the reason grime is going nowhere the cunts are stealing the best grime artists and making them spit Lil wayne sounding albums for little kids.

Grime is still in development stages and we can't escape the stage.

What I'm trying to say really is if grime started before hip hop became international then we would/might of been winning or at least drawing because it's not that grime is worse than hip hop it's just we don't have a billion pound industry that will invest cash into a genre of guys talking about stabbing and shooting like hip hop did. Grime is just as good as hip hop but the people that make things work just won't allow it to develop. Grime not being successful is just a huge headfuck.

But fuck them, right?

P.S It's possible I may have no clue what I was talking about just tell me to stfu and give me a better explanation if so (or you already knew all this)

P.S.S To all MCs, producers or anyone getting involved with grime I want to know what makes you carry on making grime. People say grime peaked 3 years ago and that it's only going downhill if this is true then why are you bothering to continue?

[Secundus]

if you look hard enough you can find someone on the internet saying that every musical genre peaked three years ago and is now dead. check youtube comments for any music that is more than three years old. People just love to habitually bitch about the current state of genres they like and its never really meant anything.

[neubauer]

I've been listening to grime heavily for a little over two years now, and bringin grime into producing for about as long. i got introduced to it via bitc and flipped my wig. i'll never forget the first time i heard stop dat, had never heard/felt anything like it and that's what drove me to dig deeper. what has kept me interested in grime is the energy, creativity, and the fact it's a still growing genre unlike hip hop which i grew up on and now just seems stale. the only thing that veers me away from grime is gun/violence talk which i can enjoy, but ultimatly feel like is a cop out (love introspective grime tunes, story telling, galdem songs) and not what most mcs live. but yeh, grime is still young (as genres go) and continues to get new forward thinking people involved in it so that tell you something about its ability as a genre.

[Wiz]

didn't read first post, but:

I haven't given up on grime because no matter how bad the scene is at any time in whatever aspect - when I hear good grime I can enjoy it more than any other music.

No other genre of music will represent the dark side of "urban" London, or at least my perspective of it when I was growing up. I don't care how many rappers come through talking about pushing white, until we have proper UK rap producers developing their own sounds, I may as well be listening to US rappers 'cause the content doesn't vary.

[M.O.G.]

didn't read first post, but:

I haven't given up on grime because no matter how bad the scene is at any time in whatever aspect - when I hear good grime I can enjoy it more than any other music.

No other genre of music will represent the dark side of "urban" London, or at least my perspective of it when I was growing up. I don't care how many rappers come through talking about pushing white, until we have proper UK rap producers developing their own sounds, I may as well be listening to US rappers 'cause the content doesn't vary.

100% co-signed.

Obviously there are mcs nowadays who just arent good but there are some who drop tracks that make me feel as though it's the early days all over again.

[Joe-MCR]

didn't read first post, but:

I haven't given up on grime because no matter how bad the scene is at any time in whatever aspect - when I hear good grime I can enjoy it more than any other music.

No other genre of music will represent the dark side of "urban" London, or at least my perspective of it when I was growing up. I don't care how many rappers come through talking about pushing white, until we have proper UK rap producers developing their own sounds, I may as well be listening to US rappers 'cause the content doesn't vary.

Minus the London bit representing me,this is real talk. You always get a big track every couple months anyway,which makes it worthwhile as a listener.

[uksamurai]

You always get a big track every couple months anyway,which makes it worthwhile as a listener.

says everything about the current state of grime

wish older gay boys would stop reminicsing and just move on with your life/music.

[Muloc7253]

I do music for the love of it, not the fashion. If people say its not as big as it was and has passed its peak, fine, I never produced to be part of some big wave anyway. There are hundreds if not thousands of MCs still vocalling beats, plenty of sets every week etc. so its not like there's nothing to do with beats. Even if you are just a glory seeker look what happened to the likes of ZDot, Preditah, Kid D, Splurt, Faze Miyake etc. over the last few years, all after grime's peak. You might think grime's dead but Darq E Freakers still doing tracks with Americans and thats live enough for me.

[Christophe Dugarry]

I make beats 'cause i enjoy it but i hardly listen to Grime anymore lul. Fell off so hard, far too many shit songs coming from the scene.

[kyro]

I think Grime is still one of the most exciting genres of music about. I do think all this trap shit getting labeled Grime or being played with Grime is the wrong way for the scene but we have so much choice when it comes to radio these days that you can just avoid them kind of tracks these days.

MC's hold back the sound like I always say. Back in the day you'd have MC's of the most hyped up, experimental track they could get their hands on. Now everyone spitting on boring half-step, borderline Hip-Hop crap.

[Divine]

I'm from Portsmouth and I know an extremely small handful of people that listen to grime but the rest just say "fuck that grimes greasy nigga music, make hip hop"

[T.Fella]

no other genre has as much hype and excitement...

[Josh]

A few reasons:

Castro
Terminator
Chronik
Big H

[M.O.G.]

A few reasons:

Castro
Terminator
Chronik
Big H

This is another big reason, there's a few heavyweights returning to the scene

[slu-wasteguy]

@Royal-T

[Justin Credible]

like t fella stated although I just can't get enough of the hype and excitement from grime.

[Tottybrer]

Very long OP eyes hurt
Raised a fair point tho

[Winnall]

did not read too tired but we love da grime

[Dilll]

Sick responses I got motivated from this thread, made a beat today probs one of my best ones I'm looking forward to writing some lyrics and vocaling it now the first time one of my productions is good enough for a track! I've made it my own style being from different ends and all. Will bump this thread when it's done cause I think I'm gonna theme it around this thread

[DJ Mad Vybez]

Loved it since I was in my teens 30 this year dark garage days. Can't give up on it