QuoteI think he's been world class for years, I'm agreeing with you. But in 2010 he didn't score enough, then he needed to do it for more than 1 season.Originally Posted by Zoffie
Now that he has, I'm just wondering if people's opinions have changed.
Grime Forum Manager
To be considered world class he really should have been displaying his skills on a world or European stage this season.
Maybe he can do it in the Olympics
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I think he's been world class for years, I'm agreeing with you. But in 2010 he didn't score enough, then he needed to do it for more than 1 season.
Now that he has, I'm just wondering if people's opinions have changed.
Soundbwoy Murderer
I think even with what you're trying to get at, it doesn't work.
When someone hits a good shot, they say, "what a great shot"
They do it again close after & they say, "another great shot"
They do it 3 times in quick succession... What do they say then? They say.."Wow.. He's got a good shot".
It's no longer a fluke, he's owned that title.
Like with Ronaldo & Messi now we expect them to hit a certain level, that's the standard they set. The fact that Rooney has averaged about 17 goals a season bar 2, which were both 30+ & those 2 didn't come consecutively... it feeds into the doubt. If those 2 were consecutive then he'd have more credibility of becoming that 30+.. but, last season wasn't too hot for him.
I know he had his problems last season & I expect you can create a thread next season after he's hopefully bagged maybe even 40+
But he has to own it & that means doing it consecutively & consistently. He hasn't done that.
We agree though, he's still world class. Just for me he hasn't put to bed that particular criticism... just yet
Last edited by Zoffie; 24th April '12 at 04:25 PM.
Grime Forum Don
If the forum was getting gassed off RVP(so was I) then there is no reason why Rooney shouldn't be treated the same. People say last season was bad for him but I swear in the run in he saved United enough times. My memory is shit so I might have it wrong.
"This is Fulham for heaven’s sake. This is a club which 15 years ago didn’t have two brass filings to rub together, which used to play in front of 3 or 4000 rattling around here. Which once played on a night in Rochdale needing points to stay off the bottom of the English League. But were brought by a very rich man, and there he is. And which has now become a hugely enriched club.”
It's things like this that make him world class
Grime Forum Manager
I scored a Van Basten volley once
Soundbwoy Murderer
When I say bad, I mean it wasn't a settled season for him.
He only started to get back to his goalscoring self 2nd half of the season.
In the season he ended a stretch where he had not scored a goal in open play for 8 months.
He said he wasn't happy & wanted to leave as he did not believe in the quality of the players around him & doubted the ambition of the club.
He had an injury & Fergie supposedly gave him time off to get his head straight..
So I understand why his numbers were hit.
Even RvP has to keep it up, before will expect this from him as a standard rather than just understanding he is capable & that's the difference.
oh hai guise wots goin on itt?
iDonate
Cool bicycle shin bro
so bitter, you've been in it 14 straight years and never won it, fucking hell we've even been to more finals than you
You should be Liverpool's new striker
lol it's an overhead kick, so what if it's a few cm above/below* his boot
Cool nit picking bitter bros
Last edited by Big 25; 24th April '12 at 04:38 PM.
Grime Forum Manager
30 goals in a very weak English league this season?
Yay he's world class
World Class
He did. The 1st half of the season was really bad though, and I see what Zoffie is saying with the consecutive thing (actually had a feeling that would get said), but the goal against City for example is a part of why I think he's world class and has been for years. He is capable of moments of sheer genius and he's done it consistently over the years, ever since he was 16 when he scored that goal against Arsenal.
In terms of goalscoring, this is the 4th season he scored more than 20. I don't think that his strike rate is that bad considering he likes to play deeper, and has been used on the wing a lot. His strike rate this season is actually better than Aguero's too, who I think would be considered world class.
Weak league this season, so whats everyone elses excuse? lol
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26, it's 30 overall.
Grime Forum Manager
No excuses here, he's a great player, but he's not up there as a world class striker.
Why has this thread even been started? Off the back of two goals against a shite Everton? Even Andy Carroll scored against them.
Soundbwoy Murderer
I can't imagine a team in the world that Rooney wouldn't start for. I can't.
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r/s
He'd even start for City.
His game's matured (like being able to play attacking mid now), and that's a good thing obviously.
I think he's world class and has been for years. People outside the UK definately rate him as one of the best players in the world.
oh hai guise wots goin on itt?
iDonate
I don't even know where the cunt plays
I'd describe his role as a second striker. But he can play across the forward line and as an attacking CM.
Grime Forum Don
He's one of the best players in one of the best leagues.
World class for me. He could well break the Man United scoring recrod ffs
"This is Fulham for heaven’s sake. This is a club which 15 years ago didn’t have two brass filings to rub together, which used to play in front of 3 or 4000 rattling around here. Which once played on a night in Rochdale needing points to stay off the bottom of the English League. But were brought by a very rich man, and there he is. And which has now become a hugely enriched club.”
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