The Programme Thread

[C.]

thought this would help those who are confused or those lookin to switch up what they do...post what u do currently etc etc

this aint what i usually do but i got 3days to train this week as im goin away for couple days, i aint lookin forward to it but here it is anyway as a starter for the thread;

Mon - Chest & Shoulders
Flat Dumbbell Press or Bar (see what i feel to do tomo)
Incline Dumbbell Press (low incline to take as much stress off the shoulder as possible)
Pec Dec
Standing Military Press
Front & Side Raise - Supersets
Upright Row

Tues - Legs
Warm Up with Leg Extensions
Squats
Leg Press
Leg Extensions
Stiff Leg Deads
Leg Curl

Weds - Back & Arms
Wide Grip Chins
Reverse Grip Bentover Row
Single Arm Row
21's (cable)
Concentrated Curls
French Press
Kickbacks

everything 3 or 4 sets anything from 8-12 reps

[Meyer Lansky]

25 minutes of cardio before breakfast every morning

Week 1-Legs
Leg Extension - 2 warm sets, 1 working set
Leg press - 1 warm set, 1 working
Hack Squats - 1 working set
Hamstring curls - 1 warm set, 1 working set
Stiff leg deadlift - 1 working set
Seated calf raises - 1 working set with forced reps and half reps

Week 2 - Chest & Bi's
Cable Flye's - 2 warm sets, 1 working
Flat bench press/chest press machine - 1 working set
Incline Dumbbell chest press - 1 warm set, 1 working set
1 set of negatives to failure on chest press machine.
Concentration curls - 1 warm set, 1 working
Barbell curls - 1 working set
Underhand seted row - 1 working set with forced reps.

Week 3 - Back
Dumbbell pulovers (or nautilus pullover if im in temple ttkk) - 2 warm sets, 1 working
Narrow grip pulldowns - 1 warm, 1 working
single arm row - 1 warm, 1 working
Wide grip rows - 2 warm sets, 1 working
Shrugs - 1 working set
Upright rows - 1 working set
Stiff leg deadlift - 1 working set

Week 4 - Delts 7 Tri's
Seated Dumbbell press - 2 warm sets, 1 working
Standing lat raises - 1 warm, 1 working
Pulley raises to failure with a few forced reps & negatives - 1 working set
Reverse dumbbell flye - 1 warm, 1 working
Tricep pushdown - 2 warm sets, 1 working
Seated behind the headed dumbbell press - 1 warm, 1 working
Close grip bench press - 1 working set to failure

Done.

[Naruto]

What's a working set and a warm set? I assume when when you go in till your body can't take no more and warm = just warming up?

Working set to failure lol the terminology is what always gets to me wtf is that

[Tommy]

Working set is at a proper weight. Start with a moderate weight to get the blood pumping and get used to form, then working set is all your effort weight. I believe Meyer does 6-8 reps (to failure), so that gives you an idea of what weight that ought to be at.

[Naruto]

I can confirm I also have no idea about weights.

I fucking hate this shit, shoulda paid attention at school lol.

[Tommy]

I can confirm I also have no idea about weights.

I fucking hate this shit, shoulda paid attention at school lol.

You had a weightlifting class? Subconscious preparation for jail...

Meyer's routine isn't something I'd recommend for beginners. Getting used to the proper compound exercises will get you the best results at first, then working into a full isolation workout, THEN trying something like that's the best route in my opinion.

[ESKI]

still cnt believe u go to gym 4 times a month

[ATB]

Meyer, what routine is that? Different body parts each week, wtf?

[Meyer Lansky]

Blood & Guts bro, Blood and Guts. It looks like a lot of rest, i didn't intentionally set my self a week off, and the routine doesn't say have a week off, It just works best for me. I wait until my whole body has recovered, usually takes a week, then go again.

[ESKI]

i dont see how it takes that long for your body to recover..maybe because ur fat and old

[Meyer Lansky]

i dont see how it takes that long for your body to recover..maybe because ur fat and old

lol yeah bro, its because im fat and old.

[Tommy]

Not worthy of a new thread but I need to know.

Developed some stretch marks under my arm/side of the pec area. Sign of gains, or just as a result of stretching the skin with flys?

[ATB]

Hehe, I reckon your skin would be ripping if flys were the reason of stretch marks on pecs. If your on creatine it could be water. Could be gains but if your on some bulk it could also be fat, so be careful. ;)

[El Asesino]

u lot are mad

[Tommy]

Hehe, I reckon your skin would be ripping if flys were the reason of stretch marks on pecs. If your on creatine it could be water. Could be gains but if your on some bulk it could also be fat, so be careful. ;)

I've yet to get into proper bulking really, calories have been fairly standard, possibly slightly above. Seem to go down the side of my pec so I reckon it's from gains. Hope it's from gains. :P

[ESKI]

put selotape on your stretch marks asap something to do with the sweat it creates repairs the cells or some shit

[ATB]

u lot are mad

In a mind of every artist, there's a masterpiece. :P

Anyways here comes my routine.

Monday - Rest

Tuesday - Back & Biceps

3 sets of pull ups
3 sets of pull downs with a V bar
3 sets of one arm dumb bell rows
3 sets of cable rowing

3 sets of hammer curls
3 sets of Hammer curls with a rope
3 sets of Barbell curls

5 sets of lower back machine

Back to dead lifting soon

Wednesday - Rest

Thursday - Quads & Calves

4 sets of leg press
4 sets of leg extensions
4 sets of leg curls

5 sets of calf presses on a horizontal leg press machine

I'll get back to squatting soon

Friday - Rest

Saturday - Chest, Triceps & Abs

4 sets of bench press
4 sets of incline bench press
4 sets of chest flys on the machine

3 sets of dips
3 sets of triceps extensions
3 sets of triceps push downs with a rope

5 sets of Crunches
5 sets of Leg raises

Sunday - Shoulders, Traps, Forearms

3 sets of shoulder press using dumb bells or a machine
3 sets of lateral raises
3 sets of scarecrows

6 sets of shrugs with dumb bells or on smith machine

3 sets of palm down wrist curls
3 sets of palm up wrist curls

It's pretty much a Push & Pull routine with a few variations :)

[Tommy]

I'm stuck with what to do right now.

Part of me thinks that cutting until Christmas then doing a bulk and cutting before Summer would produce the best results.

But I also think that because it's Christmas, I might aswell bulk until January then slowly cut until the Summer. Thoughts?

[Meyer Lansky]

I'm stuck with what to do right now.

Part of me thinks that cutting until Christmas then doing a bulk and cutting before Summer would produce the best results.

But I also think that because it's Christmas, I might aswell bulk until April then slowly cut until the Summer. Thoughts?

.

[Tommy]

Really? So late?

The reason I was giving myself that much extra time was because I find it difficult to cut. My cut for my last holiday went drastically wrong.

[Meyer Lansky]

Really? So late?

The reason I was giving myself that much extra time was because I find it difficult to cut. My cut for my last holiday went drastically wrong.

Yeah, start from next month, thats 6 months of bulking and leaves you plenty of time to cut. Dont cut slowly either, make sure you set a date and make sure you stick to it if you're serious. do cardio twice a day and cut the carbs and up the protein and you should be lean in 6 weeks.

[Tommy]

Yeah, start from next month, thats 6 months of bulking and leaves you plenty of time to cut. Dont cut slowly either, make sure you set a date and make sure you stick to it if you're serious. do cardio twice a day and cut the carbs and up the protein and you should be lean in 6 weeks.

Cardio twice a day with my usual training?

[Meyer Lansky]

Cardio twice a day with my usual training?

Yep, first thing in morning and before you go to bed. invest in an execise bike.

[ATB]

This is exactly what I'm planning to do except that I've been bulking since September and jumped on Creatine in October. Gonna cut in April.

[Tommy]

This is exactly what I'm planning to do except that I've been bulking since September and jumped on Creatine in October. Gonna cut in April.

You match me completely. Well, I'd imagine you're in better shape but this is my story.

[daspecimen]

Monday - Bench
Tuesday - Cardio and Boxing
Weds - Deadlifts and Judo
Thursday - HIIT and Boxing
Friday - Nothing
Saturday - Light Cardio/boxing technique
Sunday - Nothing or light cardio

[Meyer Lansky]

Monday - Bench
Tuesday - Cardio and Boxing
Weds - Deadlifts and Judo
Thursday - HIIT and Boxing
Friday - Nothing
Saturday - Light Cardio/boxing technique
Sunday - Nothing or light cardio

LOl man said "Monday - Bench"

[Tommy]

I hope for his sake he means bench-work, so flat, incline, decline and flies or something.

Meyer, do you see any benefit to switching between flat bar and flat dumbells?

[ESKI]

LOl man said "Monday - Bench"
. .

[Willy]

Inshallah, it was a mistake and he meant to add more after that

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

:lol:

im starting an upper/lower split this week


Mon: Lower
Squat: 3-4X6-8/3' (3-4 sets of 6-8 with a 3' rest)
SLDL or leg curl: 3-4X6-8/3'
Leg press: 2-3X10-12/2'
Another leg curl: 2-3X10-12/2'
Calf raise: 3-4X6-8/3'
Seated calf: 2-3X10-12/2'

Tue: Upper
Flat bench: 3-4X6-8/3'
Row: 3-4X6-8/3'
Incline bench or shoulder press: 2-3X10-12/2'
Pulldown/chin: 2-3X10-12/2'
Triceps: 1-2X12-15/1.5'
Biceps: 1-2X12-15/1.5'

repeat Thursday/Friday

will post pics of my bulk in April

[Rambo]

I hope for his sake he means bench-work, so flat, incline, decline and flies or something.

Meyer, do you see any benefit to switching between flat bar and flat dumbells?

different ROM

fuck flat press anyway, decline is better for overall shape

[Aston]

thinking of switching from a chest and tris/back and bi's split to a chest and back/ arms and shoulders split, been doing the chest and tris/back and bi's split a while and I think I need a change, is the chest and back too much for one day?

[ESKI]

chest - shoulders - triceps

legs - back - biceps

[daspecimen]

No I meant bench as in flat bench press, nothing more nothing less. sometimes I warm up on a machine doing an overhead press or what not but more time just a warm up set on the bench and then bang out 4x4 and go home.

I'm not looking to gain size or spend hours in the gym so why would I bother with bicep curls, tricep dips and incline work?

I stopped squatting because my squat was much better than my bench and deadlift and I carry too much bulk there. When I bring my weight down and my lifts up, then ill throw that back into the mix.

[Rambo]

No I meant bench as in flat bench press, nothing more nothing less. sometimes I warm up on a machine doing an overhead press or what not but more time just a warm up set on the bench and then bang out 4x4 and go home.

I'm not looking to gain size or spend hours in the gym so why would I bother with bicep curls, tricep dips and incline work?

I stopped squatting because my squat was much better than my bench and deadlift and I carry too much bulk there. When I bring my weight down and my lifts up, then ill throw that back into the mix.

You're so gassed you should go rep gas gang

[Blazey]

I need me a good programme still, as I said before, I just bang out weights in my yard on a daily basis.

Im planning on hitting gym daily at lunchtimes.

I dont need to work my legs (no chickenleg ting).

[ESKI]

apparantly you can only get so big without doing legs

all about doing legs tho >>>>

[Meyer Lansky]

I hope for his sake he means bench-work, so flat, incline, decline and flies or something.

Meyer, do you see any benefit to switching between flat bar and flat dumbells?

No not really. If you want to swith it up do flat barbell, incline dumbbell and decline flye's, or vice versa. No piont in doing two exercises that are basically the same in the same position.

I would highly recomend weighted dips for chest strength though, noticed all my upper body weights go up since doing them.

[Tommy]

My current gym does not have anything to do dips on. Changing in the coming weeks though.

[Willy]

No I meant bench as in flat bench press, nothing more nothing less. sometimes I warm up on a machine doing an overhead press or what not but more time just a warm up set on the bench and then bang out 4x4 and go home.

I'm not looking to gain size or spend hours in the gym so why would I bother with bicep curls, tricep dips and incline work?

I stopped squatting because my squat was much better than my bench and deadlift and I carry too much bulk there. When I bring my weight down and my lifts up, then ill throw that back into the mix.

lulul

[Aston]

apparantly you can only get so big without doing legs

all about doing legs tho >>>>

legs are a big muscle group, without working them its like just skipping half of your body so they release a lot of hormones that help you get bigger

i'm thinking of a getting a bench at home, have absolutely no motivation to go to the gym in the winter, a 20minute walk there and back<<< , if I got enough weight (to have enough to do squats at home) and a bar, dumbell bars and an ez curl bar I should be able to do all of the necessary exercizes right?

[ATB]

No not really. If you want to swith it up do flat barbell, incline dumbbell and decline flye's, or vice versa. No piont in doing two exercises that are basically the same in the same position.

I would highly recomend weighted dips for chest strength though, noticed all my upper body weights go up since doing them.

Whaa? Decline flye's?
TBH I don't do freeweight Flye's no more. I my chest seem to work better when I hit it on the pec dec.

[NSF]

legs are a big muscle group, without working them its like just skipping half of your body so they release a lot of hormones that help you get bigger

i'm thinking of a getting a bench at home, have absolutely no motivation to go to the gym in the winter, a 20minute walk there and back<<< , if I got enough weight (to have enough to do squats at home) and a bar, dumbell bars and an ez curl bar I should be able to do all of the necessary exercizes right?Yeah i work out at home, all ive got is dumbbells, barbell, pull up bar. Need to get some heavier weights in the next few weeks though.

[Aston]

yeah i'd get a pull-up bar aswell, I can see myself sticking to my diet and being a lot more motivated with all the stuff already in my house, and it'll be easier for me to get a spotter

the cost of weights is a par though when you want enough to be able to do bench press and back workouts

[ESKI]

try a 30 min walk to the gym and back :(, walking right next to the channel for half of it too<<<<<<<<<

[NSF]

yeah i'd get a pull-up bar aswell, I can see myself sticking to my diet and being a lot more motivated with all the stuff already in my house, and it'll be easier for me to get a spotter

the cost of weights is a par though when you want enough to be able to do bench press and back workoutshttp://www.powerhouse-fitness.co.uk/powerhouse-185kg-olympic-cast-barbell-kit.php if youve got a couple hundred lying around lol.

[Rambo]

training at home<<<<

run or drive

[Aston]

17 and unemployed, cant afford to drive

getting the motivation to run to the gym would take me all day, and then thinking that I have to run back after a sesh aswell just makes me not want to go

NSF £280 lool, sack that, then I need a bench + a pull-up bar aswell, thats another £100

[RandomGuy]

Do a modified version of Starting Strength

[Meyer Lansky]

17 and unemployed, cant afford to drive

getting the motivation to run to the gym would take me all day, and then thinking that I have to run back after a sesh aswell just makes me not want to go

NSF £280 lool, sack that, then I need a bench + a pull-up bar aswell, thats another £100

Lol you're not cut out for training. You have'nt even got the motivation to go to the gym, let alone train hard.

'low it

[Jesaja]

Im back to my upper lower split:

#1
Squat 3 x 1-5
RDL 3x8-10
Leg Press 2x10-12
Leg curls 2x10-12
Calf raises 5 sets x 8 - 15

#2
Benchpress 3x8-10
Cable Rows 3x8-10
Incline press 3x8-12
Pulldowns 3x8-12
BB Curls 2x12-15

#3
Deadlift 3x5-1
Hack Squat/Front Squat 2x10-12
Leg curls 2x10-12
Some jumping exercises for fun
Calf raises 5 sets x 8-15

#4
Benchpress 3x5-3
Pullups/Chinups 3x8-10
Some overhead press 3x8-12
Chest supported Rows 3x8-12
Dips 2x12-15

[Tommy]

Im back to my upper lower split:

#1
Squat 3 x 1-5
RDL 3x8-10
Leg Press 2x10-12
Leg curls 2x10-12
Calf raises 5 sets x 8 - 15

#2
Benchpress 3x8-10
Cable Rows 3x8-10
Incline press 3x8-12
Pulldowns 3x8-12
BB Curls 2x12-15

#3
Deadlift 3x5-1
Hack Squat/Front Squat 2x10-12
Leg curls 2x10-1
Some jumping exercises for fun
Calf raises 5 sets x 8-15

#4
Benchpress 3x5-3
Pullups/Chinups 3x8-10
Some overhead press 3x8-12
Chest supported Rows 3x8-12
Dips 2x12-15

I hear Branch Warren has a similar exercise.

[C.]

one ex bodybuilder helping me out recently learnt couple different things, when to do certain exercises n tht

did chest with him today did like a third if not less than that of what weight i usually do and boy my chest feels as if ive done my 1RM on everything :dead:

madnesss

[Jesaja]

I hear Branch Warren has a similar exercise.

I'm sure you'll get just as big as Branch by doing the same exact stuff he does.

[Sosa]

my bro just joined a gym an im gonna start going with him aswell, need to do some cardio but main thing is gaining strength an mass. im already quite big but this is with no training

what routine should i be looking to start off with?

i used to to alot of weights in my garden last year before i had an accident at work an hurt my back, lost all motivation after i had recovered tbh.

[ESKI]

back & bi's (abs)

chest & shoulders (abs)

legs & tri's (abs)

[Sosa]

no1 wanna help me out nah

i been twice in the last 2 days, done a few km on the running machine then hit the machines. just been doin one after the other lol

on the pull down one i was doin sets of 10 with 60kg
the leg press 100kg
70kg on the machine fly
50kg on the shoulder press

[Jesaja]

no1 wanna help me out nah

i been twice in the last 2 days, done a few km on the running machine then hit the machines. just been doin one after the other lol

on the pull down one i was doin sets of 10 with 60kg
the leg press 100kg
70kg on the machine fly
50kg on the shoulder press

I don't know how often you train but I would do something like this:



Lyle McDonald Bulking routine

Mon: Lower
Squat: 3-4X6-8/3′ (3-4 sets of 6-8 with a 3′ rest)
SLDL or leg curl: 3-4X6-8/3′
Leg press: 2-3X10-12/2′
Another leg curl: 2-3X10-12/2′
Calf raise: 3-4X6-8/3′
Seated calf: 2-3X10-12/2′

Tue: Upper
Flat bench: 3-4X6-8/3′
Row: 3-4X6-8/3′
Incline bench or shoulder press: 2-3X10-12/2′
Pulldown/chin: 2-3X10-12/2′
Triceps: 1-2X12-15/1.5′
Biceps: 1-2X12-15/1.5′

For the Thu/Fri workouts either repeat the first two or make some slight exercise substitutions. Can do deadlift/leg press combo on Thu, switch incline/pulldown to first exercises on upper body day. A lot depends on volume tolerance, if the above is too much, go to 2-3X6-8 and 1-2X10-12



Could do it 4x a week. Could also do it 3x a week and do it like this

monday: lower
wednesday: upper
friday: lower
monday: upper
wednesday: lower
friday: upper

etc

The number after "/" means the minutes you rest between each set.

[Sosa]

i just started going but my an my bro are looking to go at least 4 times a week when he gets back from work at lunchtime, thanks for your input

[Willy]

How many sets and how many reps do you do for each workout??

and how much cardio (how long..)

sosa

[Sosa]

id say i was on the cross trainer an running machine for about 20 minutes

was doin 2 sets of 10 on the machines jus doin one after the other lol

NIGDON

[Willy]

If you're started off, try and do 5 sets of 5 reps on everything, do this for 2-3 months and you will see results and be able to lift more, then you can increase it to 5 sets of 8 reps

start off with a warm up set with a weight that you can lift easily, some people even do a warm up set with just the bar, it's just to get the hang of the exercise, do 5 reps with that, then increase the weight.. and keep doing 5 reps and increasing the weight until you have completed 5 sets, with 1 of those 5 sets being the warm up set

split your workout over the 4 days so you are not doing too much on each day, do chest and shoulders on 1 day, then legs on another day, etc

cardio before workout should only be about 10 minutes tbh

maybe another 10 minutes right at the end to warm down

most people do cardio on the days that they don't do weights, it's better because you can recover properly after weight training and you can do more cardio on the other days then you would if you did it after weights

[C.]

if u aint doing high reps on legs...YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

minimum amount of reps when doin legs is 12

[Rambo]

if u aint doing high reps on legs...YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

minimum amount of reps when doin legs is 12

QFT. legs and possibly arms are the ONLY things you need to be doing this in though

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ags-10-training-program-inspired-by-dorian-yates-hit.html?CJAID=10409943&CJPID=5510546

tempted to have a blast at this for 10 weeks

[C.]

yeah ur not wrong i do it with arms also, but legs are the main thing people need to be clued up about lol

i wouldnt personally follow that exactly how its telling you, id just take bits from it and work off its principles

dno why im sayin this to u as ur clued up enough anyway lol

Will Magnus

[Rambo]

yeh I'm looking more into the rep blast and volume blast side of it.. looking to make it similar to fst 7

[Sosa]

If you're started off, try and do 5 sets of 5 reps on everything, do this for 2-3 months and you will see results and be able to lift more, then you can increase it to 5 sets of 8 reps

start off with a warm up set with a weight that you can lift easily, some people even do a warm up set with just the bar, it's just to get the hang of the exercise, do 5 reps with that, then increase the weight.. and keep doing 5 reps and increasing the weight until you have completed 5 sets, with 1 of those 5 sets being the warm up set

split your workout over the 4 days so you are not doing too much on each day, do chest and shoulders on 1 day, then legs on another day, etc

cardio before workout should only be about 10 minutes tbh

maybe another 10 minutes right at the end to warm down

most people do cardio on the days that they don't do weights, it's better because you can recover properly after weight training and you can do more cardio on the other days then you would if you did it after weights

safe bro

[Burden Durden]

Wouldn't do chest and shoulders on the same day tbh. They should be done on separate days as they are the two of the most important muscles.

[Sosa]

ok safe durden gona hit the bench in the garden on the weekends wen we aint at gym then

[ATB]

lol how is any muscle more important than other? I'd understand if you were talking about shin muscle or something but comon... Chest and shoulders being the more important than legs and back? :D

Your right though, if your on 4+ day split, you should do shoulders separately from any other major muscle group. Even though it's a small muscle, you have 3 areas to hit which requires more sets than any other minor muscle group.

[C.]

a 3 day programme ive used before involved chest & shoulders same session its good tbh, your gonna get fatigued its normal but the pump u get >>>

Mon - Chest & Shoulders
Flat Dumbbell Press or Bar
Incline Dumbbell Press (low incline to take as much stress off the shoulder as possible)
Pec Dec
Standing Military Press
Front & Side Raise - Supersets
Upright Row

set range (2-4) rep range (8-12)

but yes i know what u man are saying im just pointing out the fact theres nothing so wrong that you shouldnt do it...

[Burden Durden]

lol how is any muscle more important than other? I'd understand if you were talking about shin muscle or something but comon... Chest and shoulders being the more important than legs and back? :D


In terms of looks i would say they are both more important, just my opinion. I know models that only do back once every 2 weeks because they don't want to get wide.

[Rambo]

Wings>>>>>

[C.]

In terms of looks i would say they are both more important, just my opinion. I know models that only do back once every 2 weeks because they don't want to get wide.

lol they must be out of proportion :dead:

people that solely focus on chest and arms :angry::dead: fuck boys

[Burden Durden]

Nah they're not really, they still work on their backs (n/h) but just not as much. Catwalk/Commercial models are not meant to be wide. Fitness models maybe.

Can't be fucking with job prospects.

[Willy]

Catwalk models lol

aka gay boys

[Tommy]

Wings>>>>>

To me, wings are the most important thing. I already had quite big arms and chest, but the key to looking wide is the lats.

[Burden Durden]

Nothing worse looking than your back being too far ahead of your chest and shoulders.

Chest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shoulders>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arms>>>>>>>>Abs>>>Legs>>>Back

For me anyway lol.

[Tommy]

Did a bit of a high intensity workout today to save time. Was fucking knackered afterwards.

[Francisaso_8]

Agreed. You are a body builder like me. This is my program before when I want my body boost quickly but I used long bar not a dumbbells.

[Tommy]

Agreed. You are a body builder like me. This is my program before when I want my body boost quickly but I used long bar not a dumbbells.

Errrrr

[Shanger]

Nothing worse looking than your back being too far ahead of your chest and shoulders.

Chest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shoulders>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Arms>>>>>>>>Abs>>>Legs>>>Back

For me anyway lol.

i dont think ive ever seen anyone with too big a back l0l

y dont u try for fitness model work tht way u can lift how u want instead of holding back

or are there not as many job opportunities there

[Burden Durden]

i dont think ive ever seen anyone with too big a back l0l

y dont u try for fitness model work tht way u can lift how u want instead of holding back

or are there not as many job opportunities there

Trust ive seen bare people with a back that doesn't match up to the rest of their bodies, especially polish.

Fuck fitness modelling, you need some crazy dedication to do that and perfect dieting. Also like you said there aren't as many jobs out there and if there is they don't pay as much.

[judgeyboy]

Wings>>>>>

Na meeen.

http://www.rippedworkouts.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/joel-stubbs-biceps-triceps.jpg

[Shanger]

Trust ive seen bare people with a back that doesn't match up to the rest of their bodies, especially polish.

Fuck fitness modelling, you need some crazy dedication to do that and perfect dieting. Also like you said there aren't as many jobs out there and if there is they don't pay as much.

fair enough

whats the size limit before they start turnin u down for regular modellin?

[CatchACat]

Looking to get fit again, my back injury I had seems to be gone (hopefully).

Gonna do jogging for cardio, bit of fartlek/interval training on a field near me.

Need more advice for the strength side of things. Still pretty strong, but not muscular, from my rugby days so am looking to build off of that.

Know the basic bits like push ups and the variations, push ups ect, also got a bar with 40kgs of weights and 2 dumbell bars that i will be looking to use as well as a bull worker from when I did rugby.

Anyone got any decent plans that can implement those bits? Or links to sites that will help me out, had a few bookmarked but lost them all when I got a virus.

safe