What would happen to grime without Logan Sama's show?

[ALM]

What would happen without Logan's show, would people keep dropping mixtapes?

I swear bare people would leave the scene.

[bailey_187]

a year ago i would agree but i think aslong as westwood keeps doing his show people would still release stuff

[Grimes]

the grime scene would adapt

[nemesisartist]

yh it wud adapt lol

['nuum general]

a year ago i would agree but i think aslong as westwood keeps doing his show people would still release stuff


the grime scene would adapt

agreed

[Anonymous]

Havent even listened to Logan's in about 2/3 months.

[Carter]

It would be dead out because too much focus has been put on that show and that show alone.

The only grime we would get is Boy Better Know/Roll Deep and Newham Generals on Rinse and even if Logan went back to Rinse, lets face it, his Rinse show a Roll Deep Show lol

[Incessant Records]

Nothing would happen. I have never once listened to Logan and im not a big fan of Westwood.

As long as all the decent artists reached Rinse on a Sunday, put out a few mixtapes and did the odd sidewinder so there was cd packs it would still be kool.

['nuum general]

Havent even listened to Logan's in about 2/3 months.

i rarely listen, some people go on like its the only grime show thats on

[Arkan]

kiss would just find someone else.
sketchee most prob.

[ALM]

The only grime we would get is Boy Better Know/Roll Deep and Newham Generals on Rinse and even if Logan went back to Rinse, lets face it, his Rinse show a Roll Deep Show lol

You see this is what i think....

But alternatively we'd see more experimentation and invention in an effort to be heard, perhaps it wouldn't be a bad thing?

[dj_jawzy]

na f dat logan is a good look. he easily does the best interviews. westwood ask the same questions teh thing about logan he always seems 2 ask questions that can help the up n comers most of cameo questions are predictable so logan still gets props from me

[Danny Trejo]

It would be a healthier scene

[S.Man]

We would witness the transformation from what is typically known as an underground genre become more n more watered down for the mainstream until we have songs like soulja boy!

This has nothing to do with Logan but this is how i feel the scene will go.

When i was growing up hip-hop had credibility, it wasnt all over the radio, tv or booming out of ppls cars. It was selective, then over time it became bigger n bigger eventually losing its rawness and becoming POPular music. Now 'artists' who cant even rap are selling millions for the pure fact its their hooks and appearance that sells.

When majors get involved everything fucks up! I want to see success for the talented artists, Wiley, Goodz, Ghetts etc I want other ppl to know their music and respect what grime is but in the same breath i DONT want it to go the same route as hip-hop. I want it to remain raw, uncut and when played to the older generatiuon i want to see their face screw up like someone has smeared shit over their lip n demand it be turned off. Not now when u see dads n grandads boppin roun hummin the lyrics to 50cent or eminem!

I like grime for the music. Not the scene!

[askurmum]

Nothing would happen it would probaly get more grimey

[THOR!]

It would be dead out because too much focus has been put on that show and that show alone.

The only grime we would get is Boy Better Know/Roll Deep and Newham Generals on Rinse and even if Logan went back to Rinse, lets face it, his Rinse show a Roll Deep Show lol

His Rinse show was a Roll Deep show simply because that was the top music of the time, Logan has always reflected the pioneers of the music he plays.

I think a lot of emphasis is put on Logan's show and I think too much is dangling from it, the second the show lets go, the things dangling fall with it.
Grime loses its voice. If Westwood got kicked off radio all those years ago, Hip Hop would have still kept its voice. Grime needs someone else.

[critic of musical arts]

i rarely listen, some people go on like its the only grime show thats on

its the best grime show on at the moment. in terms of music being played. and yes i do listen to pirate and to internet radio.

Logans show is the forefront of grime and has been for the last 2 years IMO.

[Skeptical]

everyone would go on westwood's

[screwface]

grime wud jus disapear seriously

[The Elijah]

It would be a healthier scene

elaborate

[cRiminal]

Logans show is dead, rather than having a guest who's releasing some deadout mixtape he should just get random ones like what westwood did with Tempz/Ghetts/Jammer they are so much better!

[Quality Control]

Logan's show is the top show in grime for a reason... stop trying to go against the grain

i listen to most of the grime shows, pirate or not, regularly and Logan's is definitely the best

anyway, if it went away i think some MC's would go back to pirate for a while and Westwood's show would become the #1 show, until a different grime DJ got themselves into a good legal slot then it'd all just go back to how it is now

[Kolonel]

Once upon a time it may have hinged the scene, but there are alot of people looking at the scene right now that things would adapt.

Props to Logan tho, to make that jump from Rinse to Kiss is not as easy as people may think it is.

As for hip hop being popular music, thats all cool, but the reason hip hop is kinda swag these days is because EVERYONE SOUNDS THE SAME!!

Really and truly, Soulja Boy could have come out in the 80s/90s, he might not have made mad money, but he would have been around because there was a lot of diversity. There were party emcees, political emcess, hype emcees, now, everyone is on the same thing, so Soulja Boy gets stick, but really, he is just doing his thing, a case of the straw breaking the camels back.

[ALM]

the more i think about it the more i think it may be a positive thing.

[adidasgrandad]

he would have a shit load of offers to dj at underground stations like rinse so its not like we would lose a show.
If this was 2004 and the scene still had all the pirates, mc may realise that they cant just make a tune for logan and westwood and hope it sells. They would have to go to proper radio because they wouldnt have a mainstream platform to promote from. But, seeing as that isnt the case and the scene only has about 4 stations that have grime shows then the scene would be fucked without Logan.

Plus, Logans show reflects really well on the scene. It's professional, tidy, plays the best tunes and has good sets which showcase whats grimes about to a big audience. Alot of interest would be lost in the scene. In any scene, losing the number 1 show would be a major blow.

[SPOOKY DJ]

Logans show reflects really well on the scene. It's professional, tidy, plays the best tunes and has good sets which showcase whats grimes about to a big audience. Alot of interest would be lost in the scene. In any scene, losing the number 1 show would be a major blow.

true that
the forums wouldnt b ere debating bout wiley's new single or rotten's mood swings
if it wernt 4 logan
plus its a big look

dont 4get widout logan who we got?

target, westwood and cameo and they all on 1x which is not on the fm dial

so in all respects no legal grime radio show = no interest in grime from
the music industry as a whole

[Tony Starks]

Logan's show is the top show in grime for a reason... stop trying to go against the grain


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['nuum general]

its the best grime show on at the moment. in terms of music being played. and yes i do listen to pirate and to internet radio.

Logans show is the forefront of grime and has been for the last 2 years IMO.

Logans show has been nowhere near the level of Spyro's for the last 9 or so months

[nfmonline]

If logan stopped we'd just go back to the pirates and everyone would just lock into them again. Put it like this the more channels 4 artists that are taken away the more pirates you'd see. Lets not 4get uk garage went dead 4 some time because of controversy so it jst regrouped reformed n restarted.

[Ransom]

Westwood would just take over.

But im sure westwood will help logan get a slot on 1xtra

[Retrofreak]

If Logan left the FM dial to go back to pirate radio bwoyyyyy!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2674513835_df04fcba29.jpg?v=0

['nuum general]

I think radio will move more pirate again because as wifi technology develops, kids will be able to stream online radio on their phones or maybe even a wifi radio making radio more accessable & sociable again

[Kaychi]

It would turn into 'local music' again for a while.

Meaning, knowone would be heard or known outside of their area like back in the day when nuff ppl used to think garage and grime was just a london thing.

Understand what im sayin?

[SPOOKY DJ]

Logans show has been nowhere near the level of Spyro's for the last 9 or so months

if spy had the guests logan or westwood has....bwoy

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2674513835_df04fcba29.jpg?v=0

['nuum general]

if spy had the guests logan or westwood has....bwoy



Thing is he don't need the guests, just someone like badness to hype & who's equally mental

[adidasgrandad]

I think radio will move more pirate again because as wifi technology develops, kids will be able to stream online radio on their phones or maybe even a wifi radio making radio more accessable & sociable again

that wouldnt happen because there is only 4 stations (manic, axe, rinse and pyro) that actually have grime shows. By losing Logans show the scene wont GAIN any shows, it will LOSE its biggest show. The scene will be left with even less radio, although you might get more mc's going to radio.

['nuum general]

that wouldnt happen because there is only 4 stations (manic, axe, rinse and pyro) that actually have grime shows. By losing Logans show the scene wont GAIN any shows, it will LOSE its biggest show. The scene will be left with even less radio, although you might get more mc's going to radio.

more stations would start up as there is a greater potential benefit though, plus starting an internet station is alot cheaper than starting a pirate

[adidasgrandad]

more stations would start up as there is a greater potential benefit though, plus starting an internet station is alot cheaper than starting a pirate

no stations will start up. kids dont care about it anymore. All they care about is hearing wiley and skepta on a tune or getting a beat off PG and spraying over it for their myspace. To start up any sort of station you have to have a place to do it. People like Pyro and Manic probably rent a place where they can have a studio.

They should start up stations, but they wont.

[SimonCowellOfGrime]

Nuffin would happen

Grime can only get stronger, a little show like logan wouldnt change alot

[SimonCowellOfGrime]

Big up to logan on what he does, bringing in exclusives
Westwood wouldnt be able to survive though
He knows too little about the scene and he is too fake

[Jimmy Darmody]

Nuffin would happen

Grime can only get stronger, a little show like logan wouldnt change alot

^^ logans show isnt little its the most popular show for the time slot its in outta the whole country stop typing shit and lol @ westwood wudnt survive

[Alfie]

Another station like Capital will realise how well he done with the listeners and give him a slot.

[SE15]

Logan Sama is doing more for grime then you. So keep hating from behind your screens..

[Scratcha/DVA]

it would create a major hole in the scene yes. but its not the b all and end all. the scene wd jus stay as dead as it already is

[askurmum]

artists will stop trying to make tunes to play on logans show and start making real grime again