Vinyl = Dead.

[Oh So Sho Though]

Let's face it vinyl is dead.

So why don't people start releasing instrumentals & vocals on digital release?

Would you really have a problem with spending 79p on a beat?

Most places have Serato or CD Deck's now so it's not like DJ's wouldnt be able to mix without vinyl.

Seems like Logan is the only person tryna keep it alive

[TRU_G]

For mixing

vinyl>>>>CDJ>>>>fisher price my first decks>>>Virtual DJ

[Skola]

i agree

theres a large market for legal downloads

even people with access to illegal sites

some of them would stiff prefere the better quality and the knowledge they are supporting the artist for 79p

i know i would

but

why would i buy a vinyl

and have to 1. pay a high price like £7

2. pay postage

3. go and collect it from the sorting office coz i wasnt in wen the delivery cmae

4. set up my decks that i dont use

5. rip the track

just to obtain an mp3 wen i could pay ever £1 and have it instantly

[gingerchris]

I think theres a strong case for digital releases but it should be alongside vinyl, not instead.

Vinyl is great for collectors, and it sounds much, much better in a club than even a high quality mp3.

[Supreme]

vinyl will never die.

[4737]

Dickhead ting. Vinyl>>>>>________

t.

[Demos]

Dickhead ting. Vinyl>>>>>________

t.

its true tho taz.

most ppl are lucky to break even with vinyl releases nowadays

d.

[4737]

People need to take some lessons from how the dubstep scene push vinyl releases. The artists involved make bare p in comparison.

The vinyl scene in grime isn't dead, but it's nearly there. What it needs is more artists willing to INVEST in putting out vinyl, rather than wanting a quick return straight off. The only way there'll ever be a healthy vinyl market again is if people do the ground work first.

t.

[Oh So Sho Though]

vinyl will never die.

It is in the proccess of dying right now.

Reggae don't use vinyl no more.

HipHop don't.

Dubstep's got thousands of digital releases.

Grime needs to follow to make the music more accesible to the public.

[Demos]

People need to take some lessons from how the dubstep scene push vinyl releases. The artists involved make bare p in comparison.

The vinyl scene in grime isn't dead, but it's nearly there. What it needs is more artists willing to INVEST in putting out vinyl, rather than wanting a quick return straight off. The only way there'll ever be a healthy vinyl market again is if people do the ground work first.

t.

true...

[Stringer_Bell]

Dont see why producers cant put dem up for download first then make pees to fund selling vinyls..

[Eric Cantona]

Hahahaha, Vinyl won't ever die

['nuum general]

vinyls far from dead. It judt isn't promoted properly when it is released. Producers are also too tight to commit a bit of money to a release.

[Eric Cantona]

Proplem i have is, If you have a good tune, Whats the problem with getting 500 copies pressed for vinyl

It will sell all 500

['nuum general]

Proplem i have is, If you have a good tune, Whats the problem with getting 500 copies pressed for vinyl

It will sell all 500

and if the dubstep or bassline djs like it it will sell double that no problem

[bailey_187]

and if the dubstep or bassline djs like it it will sell double that no problem

exactly, stick 1 dubstep tune on it and get it labeld as Dubstep/Grime in the record shops

[bailey_187]

its true tho taz.

most ppl are lucky to break even with vinyl releases nowadays

d.

is it realy?

according to skitz beats(in another thread) it isnt....

[Danny Trejo]

vinyl over everything else.

CDJs with digital output means anyone can beat-match, juggle and chop. no skill. Serato matches that shit up for you, again no effort. Same for Ableton, Pacemaker, all of that stuff. Also means it's too easy for people to start trying to be a DJ with the equipment and broadband without anyone making any money.
(Not to say every CD DJ does but you know A LOT do).

vinyl requires skill, investment, and an appreciation of the fact that you're actually DJing, not letting technology do the work for you. you can hear the difference in sets when a man comes from vinyl to digital compared to digital from the start. if you can't, you're not listening right.

[Alias?]

Vinyl isnt dead but Dubstep artists arent makin bare P from releases.
The difference is most Dubstep artists will literally give tracks to labels if they want to put it out on vinyl knowing it will raise their profile and they will make P from bookings off of the back of it. Everyone in Grime seems to want instant P and when pushing vinyl it just aint that simple.
Grime artists need to focus on the bigger picture.

[JACK]

People need to take some lessons from how the dubstep scene push vinyl releases. The artists involved make bare p in comparison.

The vinyl scene in grime isn't dead, but it's nearly there. What it needs is more artists willing to INVEST in putting out vinyl, rather than wanting a quick return straight off. The only way there'll ever be a healthy vinyl market again is if people do the ground work first.

t.

101% real talk

cant see it happenin in grime doe..... find me 5 grime producers (bbk doesnt count, [even doe they most probably think the same still] they still put out vinyls) dat dont think like dat "investing into my vinyl? theres a chance of losing dat money"

exactly...

lets stick to makin a mp3 selling market or allow the thought dat grime beatmakers gonna make as much money as dere talent and skills deserve. its not happenin.

[Jay05]

Just a point from some1 who doesnt own a set of decks.

I dont like paying for instrumental in digital format, as it will eventually get deleted and is no real different to D/L it.

But i bought screams album and Davinche too on CD. I dont know why more grime releases dont come with a second cd with beats. Maybe even a CD by themselves.

[Fewie]

vinyl over everything else.

CDJs with digital output means anyone can beat-match, juggle and chop. no skill. Serato matches that shit up for you, again no effort. Same for Ableton, Pacemaker, all of that stuff. Also means it's too easy for people to start trying to be a DJ with the equipment and broadband without anyone making any money.
(Not to say every CD DJ does but you know A LOT do).

vinyl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>___________________STOPFULLSTOP

[Quite a character]

there is absolutely no point comparing dubstep sales and grime sales. theyre completely different genres, audience wide. ALOT! of dubstep fans are mid 20's 9-5 working vinyl junkies whereas most grime fans are younger ppl with less money to spend.

[S.K.I.T.Z Beatz]

why do people who have no idea of whats posts

vinyl sells

END OF

[Alias?]

there is absolutely no point comparing dubstep sales and grime sales. theyre completely different genres, audience wide. ALOT! of dubstep fans are mid 20's 9-5 working vinyl junkies whereas most grime fans are younger ppl with less money to spend.

Truesay - Im one of dem tho and I would buy bare grime instead of dubstep. Right now dubstep is gettin very borin (another conversation cant be arsed to get into cos its long but IMO) and where as there aint too many sho grime mixtapes/albums about right now, there are BARE tunes i would buy on vinyl as 12s. I know nuff people who share this opinion too.

[Quite a character]

Truesay - Im one of dem tho and I would buy bare grime instead of dubstep. Right now dubstep is gettin very borin (another conversation cant be arsed to get into cos its long but IMO) and where as there aint too many sho grime mixtapes/albums about right now, there are BARE tunes i would buy on vinyl as 12s. I know nuff people who share this opinion too.

too f**kin right

[bailey_187]

why do people who have no idea of whats posts

vinyl sells

END OF

release Dickhed head ting instro on vinyl please

[JACK]

release Dickhed head ting instro on vinyl please

.

if it sells as u say, why not release it? it definitely is a sik tune

[TRU_G]

If Vinyl didn't sell surely all shops would have bare copies of every vinyl released left in stock

But it's well hard to get hold of vinyl that are more than 6 months old

[Oh So Sho Though]

So what has been released recently?

[AlexGv1]

Lol stop the war on vinyl. nothing beats it. I don't think mixing digital or CD tracks can beat the rush you get from vinyl and being on the decks. No comparison. Soon DJs will be out of a job because computers will be doing their jobs for them.

[Cooks]

There a high demand for vinyl still
Best thing to do IMO cus it saves the tune from leaking and then maybe release it on mp3/cd later on after vinyl release

['nuum general]

Some people forget that being a collector is a key and often overlooked part of djing.

The digital revolution is taking from this as kids are just downloading everything illegally. It takes the shine off it for those who search for hours for the rare promo's.

[bailey_187]

So what has been released recently?

ruff sqwad mandem
mountain
calm down remix (features many grime MCs)

[Oh So Sho Though]

3 vinyls?

LOL.

Exactly my point.

And i'm not talking about people collecting things I jus think digital downloads need to be incoporated. I'm not a DJ, I would pay for a download for all 3 of them songs.

I'm sure lots more people would aswell.

[Danny Trejo]

So what has been released recently?

bumping your own topic?

nah, just
Newham Generals- Tetsuya's Theme in addition to the above

fuck all really.

[slu-wasteguy]

cds are the way forward and dont say how u can bootlegg cds cos u can vinyl by simply rippin it it may have cracks and jumps and not a constant bpm through it but people do it and have mp3s of em some vinyl rips ive heard are bloody spotless and perfect you wouldnt even know they was vinyl rips but people have just got to move with the times thats the way of life

[bailey_187]

oh and plus tubby's release.
id say its half grime.

[Danny Trejo]

yeah, tubby's last pressing was sick. sold out already as well

[Major]

grime is dead at the moment thats all it is.

[bailey_187]

local lad coming on vinyl soon aswell.

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

vinyl for grime = DEAD

vinyl in general is at a high at the mo.

it will never die/never become obsolete, if anything it will become more or a trend.

['nuum general]

ruff sqwad mandem
mountain
calm down remix (features many grime MCs)

where's that in?

[Danny Trejo]

;105592']it will never die/never become obsolete, if anything it will become more or a trend.

yep.
vinyl >>> any other format really.

['nuum general]

vinyl >>> any other format really.

.

[bailey_187]

where's that in?

dno not seen it yet but seen the artwork on cottis myspace
being released on bassface

[Major]

grime is dead at the momentttttttttttttttttttttt alie tho

[MedellinManDem]

grime is dead at the momentttttttttttttttttttttt alie tho

Beef will revive it.

[Major]

Beef will revive it.

but the thing is beef isnt what it used to be they dnt even end in clashes anymore its just write a little indirect,thread on forum OMG so and so sent for him den thats it no clash par

[The Messiah]

Vinyls aren't dead and still are marketable. The points about artists not willing to invest has already been talked about.

That said, I do think that anything that comes out on vinyl should be made available as a digital or CDS release either at the time, or a month after the vinyl release. I'm annoyed that a lot of tunes when I was 14/15 weren't made more accessible to me, as I wasn't a DJ and didn't have anything to play it on. Most of these tunes weren't made available on any other format. So I can fully understand why the 15 year olds now saying get rid of vinyl.

[Quite a character]

For mixing

vinyl>>>>CDJ>>>>fisher price my first decks>>>Virtual DJ

i used to be about that.

now ive decided its better to move with the times. djs mixing 100% on point on pioneers >>>> any vinyl junkie clanging away on vinyl

[The Elijah]

djs mixing 100% on point on pioneers >>>> any vinyl junkie clanging away on vinyl

agree with this still!

[D-Structo]

Vinyl is only dead because our rave scene is.

[DJ Mad Vybez]

vinyl aint dead just that no one aint pushing it just jumping straight into cd releases half of the tracks and beats I want are on cd and I am a vinyl guy. People need to put it on vinyl first two tracks from the mix tape two instrumentals and I would be happy plus the dj's are doing you a favour by having ur stuff promoting it on vinyl b4 it lands on cd. Was saying this to winston yesterday that I been hearing rude kids beats and they are to much but i can not get any on vinyl. He was telling me people keep coming in asking for alot of the early beats like pulse x (there is a restock with pulse y remix on the flip in rhythm now) so the demand is there the supply aint.

['nuum general]

vinyl aint dead just that no one aint pushing it just jumping straight into cd releases half of the tracks and beats I want are on cd and I am a vinyl guy. People need to put it on vinyl first two tracks from the mix tape two instrumentals and I would be happy plus the dj's are doing you a favour by having ur stuff promoting it on vinyl b4 it lands on cd. Was saying this to winston yesterday that I been hearing rude kids beats and they are to much but i can not get any on vinyl. He was telling me people keep coming in asking for alot of the early beats like pulse x (there is a restock with pulse y remix on the flip in rhythm now) so the demand is there the supply aint.

.

I read a rude kid interview where he said he won't release vinyl because it won't sell.

How does he know it won't sell if he's never released one?

the scene could do with a couple of labels to coax guys into releasing vinyl. The likes of alwayz recording have put a few cdsout but no vinyl which is weird to me.

[D-Structo]

vinyl aint dead just that no one aint pushing it just jumping straight into cd releases half of the tracks and beats I want are on cd and I am a vinyl guy. People need to put it on vinyl first two tracks from the mix tape two instrumentals and I would be happy plus the dj's are doing you a favour by having ur stuff promoting it on vinyl b4 it lands on cd. Was saying this to winston yesterday that I been hearing rude kids beats and they are to much but i can not get any on vinyl. He was telling me people keep coming in asking for alot of the early beats like pulse x (there is a restock with pulse y remix on the flip in rhythm now) so the demand is there the supply aint.

Rude Kid - The Best EP... soon come.

[The Elijah]

vinyl aint dead just that no one aint pushing it just jumping straight into cd releases half of the tracks and beats I want are on cd and I am a vinyl guy. People need to put it on vinyl first two tracks from the mix tape two instrumentals and I would be happy plus the dj's are doing you a favour by having ur stuff promoting it on vinyl b4 it lands on cd. Was saying this to winston yesterday that I been hearing rude kids beats and they are to much but i can not get any on vinyl. He was telling me people keep coming in asking for alot of the early beats like pulse x (there is a restock with pulse y remix on the flip in rhythm now) so the demand is there the supply aint.

yep. agree with the vinyl sampler 4 mixtapes.

still waiting for top 3 selected vox ins and maniac remix and stageshow don vox and ins

[DJ Mad Vybez]

I dont know £500 for 500 vinyls £3.50 a unit he would only need to sell around 150 copies to break even and with the stuff I have heard from him I can see him doing that with a 4 track ep

['nuum general]

I dont know £500 for 500 vinyls £3.50 a unit he would only need to sell around 150 copies to break even and with the stuff I have fheard him make I can see him doing that with a 4 track ep

.

Speculate to accumulate

[JACK]

its not 100% on topic, but still a vinyl issue ....

www.discogs.com - any1 buys shit from dere? shitloads of great shit, dat u dont even see on ebay dat often, but fuk knows about its safety doe. any1 dat uses it regularly?

['nuum general]

bought three times, one of them hasn't turned up & no responce from seller so reported through paypal

[Jay05]

Vinyl sales r up year on year recently

but grime vinyl seems non existent

cant u get less than 500 pressed neway?

[DJ Mad Vybez]

yeah of course u can even get 100 press but there is no point you might aswell get 500 for the value

here is jts price list

http://www.jtsstudio.co.uk/pages/manufacture.htm

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

^^

yes but its less cost effective

[Skola]

people need to use all these avenues

not everyone wants to buy music (vocals and beats) to mix

some people just wanna play them on their pc, mp3 player etc

[Jay]

The only time I ever buy mp3's is when a release is purely through digital downloads. Still don't like having to buy it, I would much rather have something I can keep.

[Fewie]

I dont know £500 for 500 vinyls £3.50 a unit he would only need to sell around 150 copies to break even and with the stuff I have heard from him I can see him doing that with a 4 track ep

.
I dont see how dey can say it wont sell, 150 vinyl will sell easily,
put 4 of ther best beats out every month or summit, 110% making profit

[DJ Mad Vybez]

yep and it aint only grime dj's that buy grime vinyl aswell all diffrent kind of dj's buy grime beats and if a beat is very big it will cross over just think of the amount of bashment and hip hop beats u have heard on grime sets over the years same thing really alot of them dj championship dj's play a few grime riddims

[Jay05]

;105854']^^

yes but its less cost effective

but to begin with DJ's could put out 100 or 200 vinyl. Then judge the demand and move from there.

Saying Vinyl dont sell is just an excuse, if u have put out 100 vinyl and had no interest then u know not to bother.

[JACK]

yep and it aint only grime dj's that buy grime vinyl aswell all diffrent kind of dj's buy grime beats

fuk knows bout dat, but i hav heard shotz' ep bein played on dubstep, hip hop, breaks and a mashup raves..... and none of dem raves were even in the uk

[Tronics]

LOL @ this topic just LOL.

[A Guy Called Dave]

I think on a purely money making trip Grime artists should look at the whole Electro Hoxton Shoreditch scene who think grime is "amazing they really speak from the street etc."

Also its all about Vinyl nothing like listening to a bunch in a record shop and knowing only x amount of people can get this tune.

[Pred]

To whoever got technical, if it went fully digital or even now if DJs get stuff from the source, you telling me a lossless FLAC studio would be worse quality than vinyl? If you convert multiple times of course you lose quality, that's a given.

I do like vinyl though, it's a tradition.

[jackspence]

Nothing Beats Vinyl.

Back in the day if you have your music on a cd, people thought you were a big shot, because you would have to pay out money to get it on cd.

And the same applies to vinyl, If a song is on Vinyl it means someone somewhere had some belief in it and put their money where their mouth is.

I heard Vinyl sales are going up and I will have a vinyl out one of these days.

[Oh So Sho Though]

Jus wanna bump this to say...

HA TOLD YOU SO!!!

[SPOOKY DJ]

LOL @ this topic just LOL.

.

[Dubzie]

all about the cdj's nowadays... technics only good for gathering dust. and playing my old 12". low 7 quid a record!!!

[Kolonel]

love this thread!!

as someone who buys vinyl, personally, i think vinyl is not going anywhere anytime soon. in fact, i might go as far as to say that cds may expire first. most people who buy cds end up ripping them, importing them into intunes and then allowing them to gather dust somewhere. most peoples houses in the next few years will contain very little physical art, music, books, etc, but it wont last, people like holding, touching things.

one key thing you are forgetting though, is RECORD SHOPS!! buying vinyl from a website will always be slightly more expensive due to shipping. most times, if you are in a record shop, you go in for something but hear so much, get caught in conversations and the whole experience of music shopping, that you leave with more than you bargain for, hence why there is a growing trend for people to focus on killer songs, because people now have the choice to buy just ONE SONG, the album is optional.

vinyl sales are up across the board, only problem is, not that much vinyl is pressed these days. genres like dubstep are club/dj based, and there are tons of releases every week, so people pay more for dubs etc, however, with more people turning to serato and the like, not sure how long it will last.

with grime, its slightly different, people are doing albums rather than singles/eps and it is more cost effective to release them digitally then release cds, or vinyl, especially with vinyl albums being a much more expensive feat then pressing 500 white labels.

but fair play to grime, cds/digital releases mean that the scene and its music is accessible, something that alot of previous scenes overlooked.

answer? both! producers need to lead with this, put out vinyls, even if it is a sampler. stop putting bonus tracks on the cds/physical releases and put them on vinyl instead, make it worth the extra pennies.

[Myth]

Its slowly dyin in Grime

[Jimmy Darmody]

love collecting vinyls

[Andre]

Vinyl > Any other format

[leatherface]

Jus wanna bump this to say...

HA TOLD YOU SO!!!

how? more grime is about to come out than in a looooooooooooooooong time!

[weava]

Obviously vinyl's slumped over the years whatever people say.
I use vinyl solely and yeah its expensive, but vinyl won't diminish in value ever.
The reason the dubstep scene is so ahead of the grime scene in terms of vinyl is purely down to a focus on producers over MCs.
Terror Danjah and all the NHNH releases never have problems selling vinyl copies.

Through the work of labels like Planet Mu and Butterz, as well as NHNH obviously, vinyl will make a comeback this year in grime no doubt.

[Neon Beats]

Vinyl was something that got me following Grime in the first place.

I remember having quite alot of Garage cds of Oi, So Solid etc etc and then someone I knew showed me Youngstar - Formula 2/Bongo Madness (what a banger that was) and Wiley - Eskimo 3. I was intrigued as to how they werent on a proper label and started hunting around more (finding tunes like Jon E Cash - War VIP, DJ Oddz - Slimzos 3 etc etc) and then really got hooked on buying Grime vinyls.

I can see why people prefer CD's and other's Vinyl. If I had to choose I would pick Vinyl, because anybody can download an ep from rapidshare but who can say they got one of the first test pressings of a tune, or a limited press of a bootleg or something.

There's some tunes now that are really rare on vinyl and I think coming across them is part of the fun collecting them really. I'd say since I first heard Grime (D Doubles frontline) Ive collected hundreds on vinyls and no mp3 or harddrive would beat it in my opinion.

I think its great that producers are doing digital releases (I bought Royal Ts ep both digital and Vinyl) but vinyl for me will always win.

Changing the subject... Anybody remember all the remixes on RWD of Singalong (Titch) when the acapella was released on the vinyl? The same thing happened with next hype, more artists should release acapellas....

[Michael.]

Dickhead ting. Vinyl>>>>>________

t.

.


Obviously vinyl's slumped over the years whatever people say.
I use vinyl solely and yeah its expensive, but vinyl won't diminish in value ever.
The reason the dubstep scene is so ahead of the grime scene in terms of vinyl is purely down to a focus on producers over MCs.
Terror Danjah and all the NHNH releases never have problems selling vinyl copies.

Through the work of labels like Planet Mu and Butterz, as well as NHNH obviously, vinyl will make a comeback this year in grime no doubt.

^^^^^

Hope so.

[The Elijah]

These are what I know that have been signed off, so regardless if these are the only things that come out, it will be an improvement on the last 2 years.

Terror Danjah - Bipolar (Butterz), Acid (Hyperdub), 6 Tracker EP (Planet Mu)
Quality Street 1 - Terror/SRC/Silencer/Royal T (Butterz)
SRC - Going Out (Rwina) Gold Coins (Numbers) EP (NHNH)
Rude Kid - Jack Daniels (NHNH)
Silencer - Wow Bass 3
Swindle - Air Miles EP (Planet Mu) Air miles Remix/Sidechain Remix (Planet Mu) Butterz EP
Joker - Tron went this week as well I believe.

+ Maniac on Terrorhtyhm.

[leatherface]

is air miles coming out on butterz or planet mu???

[weava]

These are what I know that have been signed off, so regardless if these are the only things that come out, it will be an improvement on the last 2 years.

Terror Danjah - Bipolar (Butterz), Acid (Hyperdub), 6 Tracker EP (Planet Mu)
Quality Street 1 - Terror/SRC/Silencer/Royal T (Butterz)
SRC - Going Out (Rwina) Gold Coins (Numbers) EP (NHNH)
Rude Kid - Jack Daniels (NHNH)
Silencer - Wow Bass 3
Swindle - Air Miles EP (Planet Mu) Air miles Remix/Sidechain Remix (Planet Mu) Butterz EP
Joker - Tron went this week as well I believe.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Too true. That's a mad list, actually can't wait

[The Elijah]

is air miles coming out on butterz or planet mu???

Planet Mu. Will get the tune out more then I can and the Terror remix will do a lot.

[Pred]

Grime you can move to >

[Billionaire Playboy]

I have 2000+ vinyl in my house, but I much prefer digital, as long as it's Wav format, same if not better quality, much more usable and versatile.
JunoDownload >>>

Paying £15 for a limited test press of a single track, after spending a whole day tracking it down, compared to paying £1.99 in the comfort of your own home #dickheadting

in the process of digitising my collection so I can put it into storage, longgg but it's like a trip down memory lane. You won't get that with digital downloads though.

[The Elijah]

Its mad reading this thread back

[Margaret Thatcher]

I know this is old but... its not dead, are you dumb? my vinyl collection is strongggg grown a lot recently

[Equilibrium]

why do people who have no idea of whats posts

vinyl sells

END OF

lol

[Mute]

vinyl will never die.

.

Especially for them producers out there...Sampling & all...

[No One Likes Frank]

Wow old thread lol at how the OP turned out so wrong.

[Equilibrium]

lol vinyl is still dead in grime though

[Eric Cantona]

Alot better then it was a year ago though, more coming as well

[No One Likes Frank]

fuckin 41 guests? lol

[Muloc7253]

Vinyl alongside mp3 is the way. Vinyl for DJs, mp3s for people that just want the instrumental on their iPod.

[The Elijah]

Full releases pending

J Sweet v Alias - Marxalias EP (Earth 616)
Teeza - Bounce EP (Earth 616)
Swindle - Mood Swings EP (Butterz)
Darq E Freaker - Cherryade EP (Oil Gang)
Starkey - PC EP (NHNH)
Terror Danjah - East Village (Butterz)
P Jam - Anger Management (Hardrive)

Few bits coming out in the next few weeks and months. Its nice

[Eric Cantona]

Full releases pending

J Sweet v Alias - Marxalias EP (Earth 616)
Teeza - Bounce EP (Earth 616)
Swindle - Mood Swings EP (Butterz)
Darq E Freaker - Cherryade EP (Oil Gang)
Starkey - PC EP (NHNH)
Terror Danjah - East Village (Butterz)
P Jam - Anger Management (Hardrive)

Few bits coming out in the next few weeks and months. Its nice

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[ia7742]

question, when labels released vinyls in the grime scene, who are they actually looking to sell to, who is there target market?

[The Elijah]

I dont think there will ever be loads again, but having a good choice of the best tunes on wax each year is necessary.

I notice the labels that have a vinyl arm push MP3s better too. Not all bad. Ive got 5 releases on iTunes.

This thread could have been Releases = Dead and it would have nearly struck the same debate.

Imagine when this thread was made Rhythm and Uptown where open for another two years after it. They only closed in 2010.

[Equilibrium]

Terror Danjah - East Village (Butterz)


seen

[Jimmy Conway]

Dickhead ting. Vinyl>>>>>________

t.



Vinyl is great for collectors, and it sounds much, much better in a club than even a high quality mp3.


vinyl will never die.

.

[Creative]

Yes its great to see Vinyl being used in Grime again and seeing stuff actually getting released on a whole, vinyl or digital.
Bearing in mind instrumental releases were nearly non existent when this thread was made.

That said, reading back, an interesting point wasnt talked about at all, or I missed it.....

The way venues deal (or rather dont deal) with their decks these days... <<<<<<<<<<<<<

To get into that at this hour is long tho...

[ytnij]

The way venues deal (or rather dont deal) with their decks these days... <<<<<<<<<<<<<,

[Muloc7253]

let's get into it

[96 Star]

i think that its right for grime artists to concentrate on digital releases. selling a few vinyls wont hurt but teenagers nowadays dont have record players or decks, they have itunes on their computers and when they want music they go on itunes store. the future is in digital releases and vinyl will become more minor than it is already.

[Retrofreak]

As much as I prefer the sound of vinyl...

http://images.fastcompany.com/upload/andvinyly.jpg

[arsenal]

=

Imagine when this thread was made Rhythm and Uptown where open for another two years after it. They only closed in 2010.

any other stores in London about?

[Dust Head1]

could never be dead with the amount of money i spend onit tbh

[IZA]

vinyl over everything else.

CDJs with digital output means anyone can beat-match, juggle and chop. no skill. Serato matches that shit up for you, again no effort. Same for Ableton, Pacemaker, all of that stuff. Also means it's too easy for people to start trying to be a DJ with the equipment and broadband without anyone making any money.
(Not to say every CD DJ does but you know A LOT do).

vinyl requires skill, investment, and an appreciation of the fact that you're actually DJing, not letting technology do the work for you. you can hear the difference in sets when a man comes from vinyl to digital compared to digital from the start. if you can't, you're not listening right.

I've just started out with DJing and found cd decks too easy while vinyl is harder but more enjoyable and worth it skills wise. The only problem is the pricing as most hip hop vinyl I want is old and expensive.

Does anyone know any good places for hip hop/grime vinyls within London (mainly east)?

[JamesC]

question, when labels released vinyls in the grime scene, who are they actually looking to sell to, who is there target market?

Grime Dj's? People who enjoy mixing?

I buy a few grime vinyls, the only bad thing is the lack of choice and how hard it is to find older vinyls.. Discogs got a few but that's mainly Wiley - Pies

Would kill for Danny Weed vs Whitney Houston (yellow vinyl)

[Blazey]

Whoever said Serato matches shit up............it doesnt, but if you keep looking at the waveforms as they scroll, thats cheating lol

[Crude Bwoy]

Would kill for Danny Weed vs Whitney Houston (yellow vinyl)

got that from dnrvinyl for 18 quid...was a bargain though.
they still have the 12" version in stock.

http://www.dnrvinyl.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=11965

[Skola]

Thing is, compared to digital downloads vinyl has so many overheads/so much markup

the costs of pressing, distribution, retail markup, postage to end user

a lot of time and work, a lot of middle men between producer and dj

when you can stick ur master on itunes and get ur 99p or whatever (minus what ever apple take)

so you have - quicker release (in theory), lower overheads, lower end cost for customer

on top of that the convenience/portability

theres not much going for vinyl*

*if you cant mix vinyl then u need to step ur dj game up

[Tottybrer]

Think i know like 1 person with decks and he don't even use them

[Valhalla]

Think i know like 1 person with decks and he don't even use them

.

[4TY]

To get rid of vinyl
is to get rid of generations of music
People attach emotions to vinyls not downloads
Thats probably why global sales are down

[grimezee]

cd = dead vinyl = dead its all about buying it online