Why haven't Ruff Sqwad blown?

[Alias?]

IMO they are able to cross Grime and the Commercial sound better than Roll Deep have ever been able to but they dont really seem to be gettin anywhere.
Why?

[Jimmy Darmody]

i dont know ask them

[Deccy J]

To be totally fair....they just haven't got 'it'

[Alias?]

TBH I think it is more to do with Roll Deep not blowin how the majors expected. Ruff Sqwad would have been signed in a second if Roll Deeps album hadnt flopped as hard as it did IMO

[Carter]

To be totally fair....they just haven't got 'it'

The new video proves that and so does all of Tinchy Strdyer's videos, should just make RSMD type bangers imo

[Alias?]

The new video proves that and so does all of Tinchy Strdyer's videos, should just make RSMD type bangers imo

Truesay I dont think I have seen Tinchy look comfortable in front of the camera in a single video yet.

[adidasgrandad]

stick to what your good at. make bangers for the clubs.

[G-Rhyme]

IMO they are able to cross Grime and the Commercial sound better than Roll Deep have ever been able to but they dont really seem to be gettin anywhere.
Why?

I often wonder the same thing, in my opinion they are the best crew in grime by far, production wise and MC wise they are up there too.

They do a very good job of keeping it grimey while still making very good music that could appeal to a wider audience and I think if more people got to hear their music then they would definately have some mainstream appeal.

They just need to get their music heard more I think and they do put the work in so hopefully it will soon come for them.

[Ari Gold]

a lot of people who dont follow grime seem to know theyr tunes but not know THEM. especially stryder

'do u know who tinchy stryder is?'

'no'

'what about this tune?'

'oh yeah i love this song!'

i dont understand how or why this happens. theyr definately a top crew but they are missing something special. they should stick to the underground imo and make some fucking disgusting grime instead of trying to make a bridge between grime and chart music.

[adidasgrandad]

they need to go to their radio show. they dont seem to put the work in on that front and it could help them get a bit of hype

[2snide]

was listening to Guns & Roses the other day - as a crew they all got contrasting styles that sounds sick when combined

[unkle]

they need to go to their radio show. they dont seem to put the work in on that front and it could help them get a bit of hype

.

[U.M.P]

there team aint strong enough i think where as roll deep are

[RIP Jakey]

a lot of people who dont follow grime seem to know theyr tunes but not know THEM. especially stryder

'do u know who tinchy stryder is?'

'no'

'what about this tune?'

'oh yeah i love this song!'

i dont understand how or why this happens. theyr definately a top crew but they are missing something special. they should stick to the underground imo and make some fucking disgusting grime instead of trying to make a bridge between grime and chart music.

The other day at football my mate was saying Dance 4 Now lyrics and I didn't know he liked grime. I asked 'Have you got that album?' he said 'Nah, is it worth getting?' I said 'Yeah, it's a good album.' then he said 'Who's it by?' :stunned:

[JACK]

The other day at football my mate was saying Dance 4 Now lyrics and I didn't know he liked grime. I asked 'Have you got that album?' he said 'Nah, is it worth getting?' I said 'Yeah, it's a good album.' then he said 'Who's it by?' :stunned:

typical commercial music listener tbh. its all about ''hits'' and not the full work. notice how many one-hit-wonders are there in the popular music, and how little in more ''specialised'' genres. its kinda sickening how these ppl are not caring about music, but about sales. tinchy is nearly up there with soulja boy and such other faggots.

[ZDOT]

They dont seem to be putting enough work in, They need to do more radio

[Danny Trejo]

There's no star factor, simple. They make sick tunes and all that but there's no visual personality or presence.

[adidasgrandad]

radio = bookings and therefore sales potential too. Just need to follow BBK's example and put more work in outside of the studio

[D-Structo]

There's no star factor, simple. They make sick tunes and all that but there's no visual personality or presence.

answer right tbh.

[benjybars]

There's no star factor, simple. They make sick tunes and all that but there's no visual personality or presence.

yeah

stryder's got the worst camera presence i've ever seen... (and there's ALOT of competition for that award in grime!)

[Jay05]

There's no star factor, simple. They make sick tunes and all that but there's no visual personality or presence.

the work rate apart from tinchy is poor

[Wiz]

To be totally fair....they just haven't got 'it'
c/s not even Tinchy has 'it' but he is pushing out music a lot

[LC1]

have to say i' m starting to wake up tp them and the tunes and vids for xtra and rsmd are overly sick but they're lacking the star man ie a dizzee rascal or wiley in roll deeps case.... if tinchy is your leader then there just ain't the same impact. they are tight and definately have it them to make a classic grime album in the future esp with rapid on the sticks

['nuum general]

I think if they are to achieve success on a commercial level then they need to position fudaguy as the "lead" emcee as he has the most charisma. Production-wise i don't think they're lacking anything. It'll be intersting to see how the album does

[LNL]

does anyone know if there's anything new in the pipeline from them ?

are they meant to be bringing an album out or something ?

[LNL]

I think if they are to achieve success on a commercial level then they need to position fudaguy as the "lead" emcee as he has the most charisma

agree with that

fuda > stryda

but tbh i rate nearly every ruff sqwad mc more than stryda

[Nine Bar]

whole of ruff sqwad will neva make "it"

i think tinchy will sooner or later though

[mos dan]

they need to go to their radio show. they dont seem to put the work in on that front and it could help them get a bit of hype

ruff sqwad's radio show disappearing has been one of the worst things to happen to grime in the last year or two - that along with bossman/essentials disappearing around the same time meant two of the big regular 'crew shows' on rinse were gone :(

[Hij]

c/s not even Tinchy has 'it' but he is pushing out music a lot

I like his music but does he have what it takes to blow? I dunno. Hes had some hits, but they often rely on hooks from female singers and less on the man himself.

Guns and Roses 2 will always be remembered as a classic even if it wasn't appreciated as much when it came out though.

[JACK]

I like his music but does he have what it takes to blow? I dunno. Hes had some hits, but they often rely on hooks from female singers and less on the man himself.

Guns and Roses 2 will always be remembered as a classic even if it wasn't appreciated as much when it came out though.

guns and roses 1 >>>>> guns and roses 2

still dont see whats so good about that cd tbh, 7 out of 10 is my rating (and it was rather 8/10 when it came out)

[Hij]

guns and roses 1 >>>>> guns and roses 2

still dont see whats so good about that cd tbh, 7 out of 10 is my rating (and it was rather 8/10 when it came out)

'Tell me' is an amazing track. One that goes down well with mates of mine who don't even like Grime (to be fair its more garagey, but it has to be to cross over).

I dunno, just all the songs are GOOD bar 1-2.

Xtra, Tell Me, Died In Your Arms, F'in Riddim, Clio, 2016, U Make Me Wanna, London are all classics for starters

[Wiz]

War>>>____ (Yeah I'm hyping but the beat is sick)

[JACK]

'Tell me' is an amazing track. One that goes down well with mates of mine who don't even like Grime (to be fair its more garagey, but it has to be to cross over).

I dunno, just all the songs are GOOD bar 1-2.

Xtra, Tell Me, Died In Your Arms, F'in Riddim, Clio, 2016, U Make Me Wanna, London are all classics for starters

might be just me again

but roachee on ice cream >>>>>>>>>>>>

[Hij]

might be just me again

but roachee on ice cream >>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah its alot.

I felt like Volume 2 was more of an album.

Infact, its the sort of album I would want to invest in/support.

Grime, some girlie tunes but still keeping a dark sound.

it did alot for me anyway

[Deccy J]

There's no star factor, simple. They make sick tunes and all that but there's no visual personality or presence.

That's what I mean by 'it'......:P

[fuk off]

was listening to Guns & Roses the other day - as a crew they all got contrasting styles that sounds sick when combined

Real talk and they all have a lot to offer the game (apart from shifty)
**Off topic What happend to madmax?**

[fuk off]

'Tell me' is an amazing track. One that goes down well with mates of mine who don't even like Grime (to be fair its more garagey, but it has to be to cross over).

I dunno, just all the songs are GOOD bar 1-2.

Xtra, Tell Me, Died In Your Arms, F'in Riddim, Clio, 2016, U Make Me Wanna, London are all classics for starters

Real Talk GnR 2 was fucked all dem tunes u mentioned are classics.
One of the advantages RSMD have is sick in-house production that way they can always get there pick of the best beats

[Skeptical]

i don't think they have the force to blow really

[Hij]

i don't think they have the force to blow really
Agree.

But they have core fans who love their music,.

[Grimes]

this whole idea of star factor is deluded have you checked the top 40

[Skeptical]

Agree.

But they have core fans who love their music,.

ye it's like there is only like 4 of them or something isn't there where as if you compare them to roll deep i mean their like 15-20 man deep i hope im right lol

[Hij]

ye it's like there is only like 4 of them or something isn't there where as if you compare them to roll deep i mean their like 15-20 man deep i hope im right lol

Shoot me down for this

but

on overall music
and releases

Ruff Sqwad >>> Roll Deep

Roll Deep with Dizzee/Wiley yeah... but it was weak and collapsed.

Ruff Sqwad are sick in the head.

[Grimes]

roll deep isn't a crew , just target and a couple of boys and wileys old and new boys

[Skeptical]

Shoot me down for this

but

on overall music
and releases

Ruff Sqwad >>> Roll Deep

Roll Deep with Dizzee/Wiley yeah... but it was weak and collapsed.

Ruff Sqwad are sick in the head.

yeah you are right there lol they were much better back when dizzee and wiley were part of roll deep

[phen]

Shoot me down for this

but

on overall music
and releases

Ruff Sqwad >>> Roll Deep

Roll Deep with Dizzee/Wiley yeah... but it was weak and collapsed.

Ruff Sqwad are sick in the head.

i don't see how you could be shot down for that

i'd much prefer to listen to ruff sqwad especially since wiley hasn't really been that involved with roll deep for ages now

[Danny Trejo]

yes, it's full of pop and 'indie'

Edit. Replied late.

[Hij]

Little Dee is ok, but part of Roll Deep?

big up Carter
just locked into a DVD video from Deja he sent me afew days ago and im hyping in this pub/bar

people dont know what time itis

[Hij]

yes, it's full of pop and 'indie'Sarcasm?

[Danny Trejo]

probably

[Danny Trejo]

deja dvd like pirate radio?

[Hij]

probably
are you 'infamous LFC'

or is there someother scouser running about who likes grime

[Carter]

Little Dee is ok, but part of Roll Deep?

big up Carter
just locked into a DVD video from Deja he sent me afew days ago and im hyping in this pub/bar

people dont know what time itis

Its very big, I have the full thing now,, rave footage and everything

[Danny Trejo]

not me nah, sorry.

[Danny Trejo]

someone tell me about this DVD.

[Hij]

Its very big, I have the full thing now,, rave footage and everything
hijimi@gmail.com

you know what time itis

safe

[Carter]

someone tell me about this DVD.

Its the Young Man Standing/Jammer Birthday Bash that completely passed me by....never knew it existed lol

[Hij]

not me nah, sorry.
Two scousers passionate about grime and liverpool fc

if only you were female you cutns lol

[Hij]

Its the Young Man Standing/Jammer Birthday Bash that completely passed me by....never knew it existed lolI have 30minutes of it, is it longa than that

[Hij]

From time Wiley looks coked up you know its a few years old.

lady fury >>> shystie, lady soverign, nolay etc etc

fuck off >>>>

I DONT GIVE HEAD BUT I GIVE HEAD BUTTS

[Carter]

I have 30minutes of it, is it longa than that

Yeah its like 30 mintutes of Jammer's birthday and then the rave footage, East Connection, Ruff Sqwad, Fire Camp, NAA, Essentials

[Arkan]

Its the Young Man Standing/Jammer Birthday Bash that completely passed me by....never knew it existed lol

rar. ihve jammers b/day set on audio, and seen like 10 mins of the visual.

any chance your allowed to up that?
or where u got the dvd from?

[Carter]

rar. ihve jammers b/day set on audio, and seen like 10 mins of the visual.

any chance your allowed to up that?
or where u got the dvd from?

Its in Uptown, UK Record Shop & Rhythm Division

[Hij]

Yeah its like 30 mintutes of Jammer's birthday and then the rave footage, East Connection, Ruff Sqwad, Fire Camp, NAA, Essentials
Oh seen.

I think I got it then, thanks anyway mate.

[Danny Trejo]

ah right, safe. it's a big dvd.

[Danny Trejo]

hij are you coming onto me lol?

[Carter]

Oh seen.

I think I got it then, thanks anyway mate.

The one with Fury sounds like Box Bloody Fresh

[Hij]

The one with Fury sounds like Box Bloody Fresh:D fury and demon merk it

never thought id say that in 2008 :D

[Hij]

hij are you coming onto me lol?No fuck off you gay

[Carter]

:D fury and demon merk it

never thought id say that in 2008 :D

or its Conflict lol

[Danny Trejo]

jokes.

Where's this infamous post? Could be our Mark.

[Hij]

The roads the roads the roads the roads

prick! Tryna sound big on the roads...

[Hij]

jokes.

Where's this infamous post? Could be our Mark.

3,000 on rawk

3,000 on RWD

hes everywhere

[Danny Trejo]

Really? I'll ask him tomorrow then.

Hij, you getting that Young Dot in?

[Coolio]

i fink that all ov ruff sqwad have the potentail to blow, if they put up der work rate and may be den they will put out bangerz and get noticed by mainstream kinda peoples

[SPOOKY DJ]

radio = bookings and therefore sales potential too. Just need to follow BBK's example and put more work in outside of the studio

yh man put in sum outside work and u will get there

[Hij]

Really? I'll ask him tomorrow then.

Hij, you getting that Young Dot in?Yeah hes got good English as well.

As for Young Dot, definately if im in the country

im back in 5 days, so probably i been cahtting to young dots distributor

[Danny Trejo]

safe. i'll cop off you if i can no homo.

[Hij]

safe Slackk

[Reference]

they all have tired voices

[adidasgrandad]

Yeah its like 30 mintutes of Jammer's birthday and then the rave footage, East Connection, Ruff Sqwad, Fire Camp, NAA, Essentials

the two in one special dvd?