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paperboy
4th February '08, 02:22 PM
Whats good people. I’ve been checking this forum for a bit now, it’s a good look for grime. In my opinion this music is healthy and progressing week by week with artists getting better, production being more professional. I don’t see the point of trying to ship it over to America, I don’t see them understanding what its about, that’s why I cant see how people are comparing rappers to grime artists THERE NOT THE SAME, ok maybe a grime artist cant have the same lyrical content of papoose but I don’t care, coz I cant see a lot or any rappers get on stage say two lines run back off and leave the crowd going mad and that’s why grime is what it is. That may not be mainstream but if grime becomes mainstream it will change. All you got to do is think.

Unsigned Dizzee>>>>>>>> signed Dizzee
Unsigned Kano>>>>>>>>>>signed Kano

I don’t know if Newham generals are signed or not but either way
Unsigned (or whatever) Newham generals>>>>>>>> signed Newham generals

I think grime is doing fine on the underground, slowly getting bigger with out having to change (or sell-out). The only problem I think there is, is all the internet shops and artists making it available on there months before it’s in the shops, if the music becomes more available and in more shops I think the future will be bright for grime.

Stringer_Bell
4th February '08, 02:25 PM
lol@ expecting people to read dat on ur first post....

FG
4th February '08, 02:27 PM
Newham Generals are signed to Raskit's label Dirtee Stank

I agree with you about the rave scene and hype, but as that has lost focus with raves getting locked off etc. there is a greater emphasis on the mixtape, so thats why I think hip hop influenes are becoming more apparent...

Welcome to the forum bro

ALM
4th February '08, 02:27 PM
underground music>>>>commercial music

Anonymous
4th February '08, 02:29 PM
Bonjour.

RIP Jakey
4th February '08, 02:30 PM
welcome mate,

u made some good points about the difference between grime and hip hop being the hype and style of grime, i completely agrre but the hype of grime jus makes it stand out more wen artists make bait hip hop

Hij
4th February '08, 03:13 PM
What was wrong with his post Stringer?

grafta
4th February '08, 03:14 PM
Hi,

Jimmy Bullard is a showerman

Hij
4th February '08, 03:15 PM
Jimmy Bullard = legend

Breathe Beats
4th February '08, 03:24 PM
Safe paper

i agree commercial grime would just be wartered down garbage

FG
4th February '08, 03:27 PM
Safe paper

i agree commercial grime would just be wartered down garbage

Is there such a thing as commercial grime?

'If the underground goes mainstream than it aint the underground no more' - Kano

^^and yep Jimmy Bullard top boy from day

Anonymous
4th February '08, 03:52 PM
Why Everyone Love Jimmy Bullard.
Any Guy Who Popped A Kneecap.

Breathe Beats
4th February '08, 04:17 PM
Is there such a thing as commercial grime?

'If the underground goes mainstream than it aint the underground no more' - Kano

^^and yep Jimmy Bullard top boy from day

well

can you imagine roadside gz in the top 20?

just wouldnt happen, the only way it would get there is if its watered down, stripped of everything that makes it grime

BUT

forward riddim is the exception, and i think i luv u got in the top 30

maybe grime should go back to how it was a few years ago and then it could break the charts without having to change.

then again fuck the charts 99% of the music there is absoloute shite :D

Aza T
4th February '08, 04:33 PM
welcome

Lemon
4th February '08, 04:53 PM
What was wrong with his post Stringer?

It's alot of reading was the only down point. lol.

Welcome Paperboy.
Yeah it's all about having grime for sale on plenty of places people want to buy from. On and Off line.

FG
4th February '08, 04:55 PM
It's alot of reading was the only down point. lol.

Welcome Paperboy
Yeah it's all about having grime for sale on plenty of places people want to buy from. On and Off line.

werent that long

if you dont want to read it you dont have to, allow linking your own laziness to the status of a new forum member

Lemon
4th February '08, 04:59 PM
werent that long

if you dont want to read it you dont have to, allow linking your own laziness to the status of a new forum member

Post was edited before you replied still.
The fact it's long is an excuse for Stinger. Although i'm not a fan of reading long text. I read it. Also laziness is known as dyslexia to a fair few members here. So i'd llow that.

'nuum general
4th February '08, 06:57 PM
Commercial grime = NJ - Oh Yes

Wiz
4th February '08, 07:10 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls

Breathe Beats
4th February '08, 07:25 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls

:stunned:

Hij
4th February '08, 07:28 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls
Both>>> At different times.

I'd play this is the girl i want if a girl was round my house

but boys love girls if it was just me

FG
4th February '08, 08:24 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls

I think I agree with this still

Both big tunes

'nuum general
4th February '08, 08:40 PM
i thought this is the girl sounded alright.

Better than scorchers attempts to be juelz santana anyway...

TRU_G
4th February '08, 08:50 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls

Whoah! thats some serious bullshit there son!

Despite the fact that it's all down to opinions I didn't think a Grime fan would think that and to see people agreeing is worrying

This is the girl was any summer track

No way did it have the same impact as Boys Love Girls

Jay05
4th February '08, 08:56 PM
Why Everyone Love Jimmy Bullard.
Any Guy Who Popped A Kneecap.

soccer AM helped, showing him messing about during games.

FG
4th February '08, 08:58 PM
fair enough, I rate both

Still listen to this is the girl though, I think its big

*puts it on*

I like grime, and I would call myself a real grime fan, but I listen to other stuff as well even though all I listen to mostly nowadays is sets

I don't like the implied notion that if you're a 'real' grime fan you can't appreciate other music or a former grime artist doing other things

TRU_G
4th February '08, 09:02 PM
fair enough, I rate both

Still listen to this is the girl though, I think its big

*puts it on*

I like grime, and I would call myself a real grime fan, but I listen to other stuff as well even though all I listen to mostly nowadays is sets

I don't like the implied notion that if you're a 'real' grime fan you can't appreciate other music or a former grime artist doing other things

I wasn't saying this at all

But for me, Boys Love Girls is a CLASSIC grime track, first broke Kano into the scene & epitomizes the word Grime - it's hype, the flow is sick and the beat is banging - also talks about things otehr than Shanks & Guns

To me 'This is the Girl' was just Kano collaborating with established artists in the hope that it will widen his audience - like most of his 2nd album

FG
4th February '08, 09:08 PM
I wasn't saying this at all

But for me, Boys Love Girls is a CLASSIC grime track, first broke Kano into the scene & epitomizes the word Grime - it's hype, the flow is sick and the beat is banging - also talks about things otehr than Shanks & Guns

To me 'This is the Girl' was just Kano collaborating with established artists in the hope that it will widen his audience - like most of his 2nd album

cool, I hear you with what you're saying about Boys Love Girls, its on now - I rate the track, but I rinse t then don't listen to it again for a while. I prefer other tracks off Home Sweet Home - the title track, Ps and Qs, Signs In Life...

Whatever the motives for Kano's collaborations the result was good in my opinion

I werent sending but I said implied, not that you actally said it - 'Despite the fact that it's all down to opinions I didn't think a Grime fan would think that and to see people agreeing is worrying'

Of course the implication is there

TRU_G
4th February '08, 09:14 PM
I werent sending but I said implied, not that you actally said it - 'Despite the fact that it's all down to opinions I didn't think a Grime fan would think that and to see people agreeing is worrying'

Of course the implication is there

Yer i see thats all cool

All i really meant was that Boys Love Girl's was a very important track in Grime's history and I would most grime fans would have rated it highly purely because of this fact

FG
4th February '08, 09:18 PM
Yer i see thats all cool

All i really meant was that Boys Love Girl's was a very important track in Grime's history and I would most grime fans would have rated it highly purely because of this fact

yeah man I see what you're saying, its a very big track, and grime's hallmark tracks will have a big status

I tend to like those sort of shitty songs anyway (not parring former opinion) - like on Tunnel Vision I rated Frontline, even the Slash produced one, the one about Naomi, think it was called time after time

So maybe its just me cos I like them tunes, and I think 'This Is The Girl' was a like/don't like tune anyway really

TRU_G
4th February '08, 09:21 PM
So maybe its just me cos I like them tunes, and I think 'This Is The Girl' was a like/don't like tune anyway really

Amongst Grime fans definetly because they either took my opinion (selling-out) or yours (don't give a shit - it's a good tune)

Jay05
4th February '08, 09:31 PM
yeah man I see what you're saying, its a very big track, and grime's hallmark tracks will have a big status

I tend to like those sort of shitty songs anyway (not parring former opinion) - like on Tunnel Vision I rated Frontline, even the Slash produced one, the one about Naomi, think it was called time after time

So maybe its just me cos I like them tunes, and I think 'This Is The Girl' was a like/don't like tune anyway really

i like both them tunes on tunnel vision 2.

Kano does a few too many sweet boy tunes though

paperboy
4th February '08, 09:45 PM
this is the girl >>> boys love girls

imo boys love girls was a much bigger tune, just for the fact it was probably the first kano tune i herd, it done alot for grime... but "this is the girl" done more for kano's carrea.

Quality Control
4th February '08, 09:49 PM
this is the girl was waste. boys love girls was aight

Wiz
4th February '08, 10:00 PM
imo boys love girls was a much bigger tune, just for the fact it was probably the first kano tune i herd, it done alot for grime... but "this is the girl" done more for kano's carrea.
Fair enough, me, I heard Kano first on the Streets song with Tinchy and Lady Sov, and he didn't come across as anything special, then I bought Run The Roads and heard Destruction VIP and thought yeah he's big, then first heard Boy Love Girls properly when someone showed me his album and I thought it was swag (compared to other things I've heard of him).

I suppose when you hear people as they progress it's easier to appreciate their older songs.

Hij
4th February '08, 10:36 PM
This is the girl is still a good tune kinda

Force 1[DTM]
4th February '08, 10:41 PM
"Coz your shoe says Puma mine says P-rada"
Lol still love that line

Tbh i think Home Sweet Home was a better album than London Town, thats all it comes down to really, not if he sold out, or was grimey, all comes down to the quality of the music.

Hij
4th February '08, 10:59 PM
Home Sweet Home was 5 times better than London Town

Quality Control
4th February '08, 11:00 PM
Home Sweet Home was 5 times better than London Town

nah

5 x 0 = 0

Hij
4th February '08, 11:21 PM
nah

5 x 0 = 0
:laugh::D:laugh:

LOL