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frankD
2nd February '08, 07:54 PM
Wearing my Rolex by Wiley on that electo vibe is the best thing ive heard in ages.

I remember a lot of the early grime had an electro vibe to it.

Do you think there will be more stuff like this?

It really does help set grime apart from hip hop.

Retrofreak
2nd February '08, 08:04 PM
???

Electro came from Old skool Hip Hop.

Demos
2nd February '08, 08:05 PM
Wearing my Rolex by Wiley on that electo vibe is the best thing ive heard in ages.

I remember a lot of the early grime had an electro vibe to it.

Do you think there will be more stuff like this?

It really does help set grime apart from hip hop.

how does it set grime apart from hip hop if it aint grime??

Jason P
2nd February '08, 08:12 PM
PAR!
lol

FG
2nd February '08, 08:14 PM
Wearing my Rolex by Wiley on that electo vibe is the best thing ive heard in ages.

I remember a lot of the early grime had an electro vibe to it.

Do you think there will be more stuff like this?

It really does help set grime apart from hip hop.

Demos is right, but also I wouldnt look at it like that, grime takes influences from so many other genres, and hip hop is one of them

Jason P
2nd February '08, 08:14 PM
BTW i dont feel that tune at all.. at least not at the moment

naah i don't rate it

local lad >>>>>>>>> wearing my rolex

Molecules
2nd February '08, 09:17 PM
???

Electro came from Old skool Hip Hop.

there are two kinds of electro - the mid 80's B-boy stuff you're thinking of, and electro house, which is really recent :)

Retrofreak
2nd February '08, 09:28 PM
there are two kinds of electro - the mid 80's B-boy stuff you're thinking of, and electro house, which is really recent :)

Yeah I know they all came out of the same place though.

Kraftwerk via Afrika Bambatta

So to me the only difference is their doing it on a straight 4 x 4 beat.
A lot of the electro house records i've got are blatant loops of old B Boy records I have in my collection.

Molecules
2nd February '08, 09:40 PM
wearing my rolex sounds pretty cool, grime vocals don't bring nearly as much hype to this kind of music as they do to bassline though imo

TRU_G
2nd February '08, 10:47 PM
I think Grime should be under the electronica bracket, rather than a hip hop bracket

Jason P
3rd February '08, 12:01 PM
Its music, don't limit it.

People do what they do, whether other people like it or not. The latter is indeed important for a genre's survival though.

Hij
3rd February '08, 01:47 PM
I think Grime should be under the electronica bracket, rather than a hip hop bracket
Im actually a bit more in agreement with this you know.

Retrofreak
3rd February '08, 01:59 PM
Im actually a bit more in agreement with this you know.

Yeah the only problem is you'd have to take out the spitting and even then it will eventually go back to places Hip Hop's already been.

Wiz
3rd February '08, 02:10 PM
Someone send a link to this Wearing My Rolex tune again please because last time I heard it it sounded terrible and you guys just seem to be hyping it up because it's got Wiley on it.

Hij
3rd February '08, 02:12 PM
Yeah the only problem is you'd have to take out the spitting and even then it will eventually go back to places Hip Hop's already been.

I guess. But a lot of the sets now when its just instrumentals does sound electonic.

Don't see why people can't still spit on it.

Its an interesting argument though.

Retrofreak
3rd February '08, 02:31 PM
I guess. But a lot of the sets now when its just instrumentals does sound electonic.

Don't see why people can't still spit on it.

Its an interesting argument though.

What happens when producers decide they've had enough of using synths?

Electronica goes in and out of fashion and it would be a shame if Grime had to be limited by the same rules.

Tony Starks
3rd February '08, 02:35 PM
I think Grime should be under the electronica bracket, rather than a hip hop bracket

I understand your point but the main problem is that half of the artists in the scene especially those coming through would prefer to be under the hip-hop bracket.
e.g hip hop freestyles, and working with hip hop producers..its quite evident to see artists that model themselves on the hip hop star image

ALM
3rd February '08, 02:41 PM
I understand your point but the main problem is that half of the artists in the scene especially those coming through would prefer to be under the hip-hop bracket.
e.g hip hop freestyles, and working with hip hop producers..its quite evident to see artists that model themselves on the hip hop star image

most grime producers would rather be considered electro, its the wannabe hip hop guys that like that image.

Tony Starks
3rd February '08, 02:49 PM
most grime producers would rather be considered electro, its the wannabe hip hop guys that like that image.
agreed

Wiz
3rd February '08, 03:47 PM
we all grew up on hiphop, so it's more likely we would want to be a part of that, it is more a part of our culture than electro is

but electro is also considered more european (no?) and a lot of people like to distance themselves from trying to be american so it's easy to see why there is a divide

Hij
3rd February '08, 04:10 PM
What happens when producers decide they've had enough of using synths?

Electronica goes in and out of fashion and it would be a shame if Grime had to be limited by the same rules.

I see what you mean. Although at the end of the day it is grime and theres all sorts of different stuff out there.

Jay05
3rd February '08, 04:55 PM
I'm a little surprised about people moaning about - wearing my rolex. Admittedly not in this thread

Y Dot bassline massacre was quite electro and so have numerous productions

If it sounds good then producers should make it.


On a seperate note if grime related tunes can get played in clubs, its a big look

more vinyl
more bookings

frankD
3rd February '08, 08:57 PM
the electronic music bracket opens more places for the genre to go.

Hip Hop just means that we will be listening to the same old mc's over the same style beats talking how they are gangster.

I used to like when I could tune into rinse to a grime show and would never know what to expect next.