Did Plan B and Lady Sov flop?

[frankD]

Just listening to Run the road and heard his track, have not heard anything from him from a long time.

Same with Sov, both had a lot of money put behind them.

Do you think that is thier careers dead already?

[Demos]

yup

[Jay]

I thought the yanks loved Lady SOV?

[frankD]

People think when they got the deal that they have made it, but even then nothing is for certain.

My mates in a band and a few people he knows in other bands have been signed and put out a single just on itunes say, and then got dropped.

[Jason P]

As far as I know Sov is working with Medasyn on her new album, which is due to be out in March.

[TRU_G]

Plan B is about his album did pretty well, dropped a mix cd afterwards

He's probably working on new shit

[G.K.]

I really liked Plan B's album. Hope his next one is as good.

It was sick.. in every sense of the term!

[gingerchris]

I was under the impression Lady Sov did pretty well in America as well. I know there was a lit of hype online about her 'beef' with jelly donut in SF

[scribbler]

Plan B is working on his second album

[Aza T]

I Couldn't care less for Plan B.

"Theres never been any fucking quality in grime"

Dickhead.

[Hij]

I Couldn't care less for Plan B.

"Theres never been any fucking quality in grime"

Dickhead.
.

[KingSizeBlues]

Plan B is shite.

:shutyamouth:

[adidasgrandad]

his album was full of bollocks about humping 14 year olds with nice bums and big boobies


wouldnt be surprised if he got dropped

[Hij]

As a 'concept' song, it was heavy to be fair.

[adidasgrandad]

loool didnt like any of it really

[Wiz]

never liked plan b, lady sov was good at times

didn't she have some sort of breakdown on stage?

[Force 1[DTM]]

plan b just says messed up things for the sake of it.

although i liked that suzane song which wasnt one of his most light hearted tunes ever i still dont rate him.

[hyperfrank]

Both doing there thing making new music, I have been known to hate Sovereign although I did go to one of her gigs to have move proof to back up my hate for her, but she has mad energy on stage and impressed me but her music -- nahhh.

Plan b was a touch misquoted in that allhiphop article because he did continue to talk about Newham Generals and that (i think) but yeah music wise I like his edge.

[Carter]

Both doing there thing making new music, I have been known to hate Sovereign although I did go to one of her gigs to have move proof to back up my hate for her, but she has mad energy on stage and impressed me but her music -- nahhh.

Plan b was a touch misquoted in that allhiphop article because he did continue to talk about Newham Generals and that (i think) but yeah music wise I like his edge.

Killed himself by saying:

"grime never had any quality"

[Aza T]

allow the talk about mis quoting or whatever

we heard the interview over the phone

[Carter]

allow the talk about mis quoting or whatever

we heard the interview over the phone

**coughthankstomecough**

[hyperfrank]

allow the talk about mis quoting or whatever

we heard the interview over the phone

itwasn't much misquoting but nice cut editing to impact the quote even more.

[Carter]

Lets be real yeah and leave the label marketing bullshit behind for a second........

Plan B is NOT our Eminem....

Lady Sovereign making the top of video chart does NOT mean she has blown up or sold records! Her label paid for that shit

[hyperfrank]

Her label paid for that shit

That explains the mainstream.

[Carter]

That explains the mainstream.

Yeah trust.......Its a known fact Def Jam bought loads copies Jay Z's Kingdom Come to get it in the charts and P Diddy did the same thing with Cassie lol

But 679 can't match those types of bank accounts, so they give NME or RWD a couple of grand to call man "The New Eminem" or Lady Sovereign "The Grime Princess".........thats my whole problem with Run The Roads because you could see it was just a side project to promote Plan B and Lady Sovereign

[adidasgrandad]

Yeah trust.......Its a known fact Def Jam bought loads copies Jay Z's Kingdom Come to get it in the charts and P Diddy did the same thing with Cassie lol

But 679 can't match those types of bank accounts, so they give NME or RWD a couple of grand to call man "The New Eminem" or Lady Sovereign "The Grime Princess".........thats my whole problem with Run The Roads because you could see it was just a side project to promote Plan B and Lady Sovereign

too true

[Aza T]

**coughthankstomecough**

lol

You need some

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/76/79/22617976.jpg

bruv!

(lol i was just gonna put a cough medicine bottle but that kids face is too jokes )

[Carter]

lol

You need some

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/76/79/22617976.jpg

bruv!

(lol i was just gonna put a cough medicine bottle but that kids face is too jokes )

Thats any grime dvd face innit lol

[G.K.]

lol

You need some

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/76/79/22617976.jpg

bruv!

(lol i was just gonna put a cough medicine bottle but that kids face is too jokes )

loooooooooooooooooool kid looks lyk my cousin!

[Mister Lacey]

I swear bruv I used to like cough syrup.
Remember that one banana one you'd get from the doctors?

[RIP Jakey]

I swear bruv I used to like cough syrup.
Remember that one banana one you'd get from the doctors?

amoxycillin ya dun kno!!!

had tht every month for ear infections lol (damn my weak ears!)

[frankD]

Yeah buying your own cd's is the best marketing plan tho.

Why spend 100k on a marketing plan, just buy the cds, then sell them again when all the people go buy it because they thought everyone else has the week before because its no.1

I said to my mate he should put out a cd, and get out a 20.000 bank loan and put himself to number 1. Follow up quickly with a top album.

Dunno if would work tho.

[G.K.]

Yeah buying your own cd's is the best marketing plan tho.

Why spend 100k on a marketing plan, just buy the cds, then sell them again when all the people go buy it because they thought everyone else has the week before because its no.1

I said to my mate he should put out a cd, and get out a 20.000 bank loan and put himself to number 1. Follow up quickly with a top album.

Dunno if would work tho.

I don't think 20k would put you number one, well maybe in a bad week. he'd also have to have at lest one good tune an alrite video and p's to get the cd pressed in the first place. but otherwise great idea :D :D

[frankD]

I don't think 20k would put you number one, well maybe in a bad week. he'd also have to have at lest one good tune an alrite video and p's to get the cd pressed in the first place. but otherwise great idea :D :D

well itunes, or download site. 70p per song still counts to the charts.

23,333 should get you top 5 on a bad week.

[G.K.]

well itunes, or download site. 70p per song still counts to the charts.

23,333 should get you top 5 on a bad week.

I didn't think of that. thats big actually. that'd work more with a single tho and not and album. and just think of all the air play a number one gets no matter how bad it is. Why don't everyone do it then?

[frankD]

I didn't think of that. thats big actually. that'd work more with a single tho and not and album. and just think of all the air play a number one gets no matter how bad it is. Why don't everyone do it then?

Yeah thats why I was think having an album to come out the week after or 2 weeks after.

Songs big, then people go woolworths and cop the album.

I guess because if it flops your 20k in debt.

[G.K.]

Yeah thats why I was think having an album to come out the week after or 2 weeks after.

Songs big, then people go woolworths and cop the album.

I guess because if it flops your 20k in debt.

I guess. how much does an artiest get per sale off iTunes? that plus the p' you get per air play would make up for some of the 20k tho.

[frankD]

I guess. how much does an artiest get per sale off iTunes? that plus the p' you get per air play would make up for some of the 20k tho.

yeah you might be able to end up having just spend 10k. dunno if itunes would count loads of buys from the same user tho.

[Ari Gold]

lady sov was never ever respected but plan b is a SICK guy.

never any quality in grime? give a fuck? he dont make grime and he clearly dont like it, hes entitled to his opinion i wouldnt really even expect a guy who makes hip hop/indie type music to be a fan of grime anyway. at least hes honest with his opinions. his music is ALOT; so many brilliant concept tracks, he sings, plays guitar and spits. plus he can tell a story really well. AND i saw him perform at shepherds bush empire and he was fucking heavy on stage.

hes not grime so im not gona look at hi mfro ma grime point of view, i just enjoy his music.

NO SUCKTION

[frankD]

lady sov was never ever respected but plan b is a SICK guy.

never any quality in grime? give a fuck? he dont make grime and he clearly dont like it, hes entitled to his opinion i wouldnt really even expect a guy who makes hip hop/indie type music to be a fan of grime anyway. at least hes honest with his opinions. his music is ALOT; so many brilliant concept tracks, he sings, plays guitar and spits. plus he can tell a story really well. AND i saw him perform at shepherds bush empire and he was fucking heavy on stage.

hes not grime so im not gona look at hi mfro ma grime point of view, i just enjoy his music.

NO SUCKTION

Did anyone ever read that interview where he said he didnt want white people to turn up to his gigs after some west ham fans happened to pop into cargo for a few drinks during his gig and ruined his show.

[G.K.]

yeah you might be able to end up having just spend 10k. dunno if itunes would count loads of buys from the same user tho.

Ya good point. Now that i think of it there was that song years ago that was big in Ireland, i don't know about the Uk, but in the video the dude went around buying his cd's from shops.. maybe it was just an ad. It was funny still. I'll try and remember it.

but on the plan b i agree with c_charalambous.

[hyperfrank]

Just for all you guys who are confused about what happened with the whole allhiphop and plan b saying grime had no quality blah blah - Grime Snippet is here (http://rapidshare.com/files/88274199/Plan_B_Interview_Grime_Snippet.mp3.html)
(big up carter for hunting that down from allhiphop)