Logan's comments ...

[Steez]

... about trying to regulate DJs and basically forcing them into buying vinyl decks and playing vinyl on that leaking debate on Scratcha's show.

Any opinions?

[Technician]

... about trying to regulate DJs and basically forcing them into buying vinyl decks and playing vinyl on that leaking debate on Scratcha's show.

Any opinions?

hes not forcing anything ive send him a message 2 days ago hes goin 2 release the adamantium releases on mp3 aswell

[Steez]

hes not forcing anything ive send him a message 2 days ago hes goin 2 release the adamantium releases on mp3 aswell
Did you listen to the debate? He said he is only going to do mp3 and CD WAY after the vinyl release ... eg. if you want to play new music, you need vinyl

[Technician]

Did you listen to the debate? He said he is only going to do mp3 and CD WAY after the vinyl release ... eg. if you want to play new music, you need vinyl

its true about the new music but if u want new music u could also network and try and get it of the actual producer and that is what i do

[bailey_187]

its true about the new music but if u want new music u could also network and try and get it of the actual producer and that is what i do

the thing is tho producers see a DJ from another a country and will happily send u tunes in hope of getting more fans abroad. some unknown guy from england asking for beats from big producers will just get told no most time.

[Steez]

its true about the new music but if u want new music u could also network and try and get it of the actual producer and that is what i do
True. I see a problem with this though. If logan's on it, he'll have the producer forward all contact about the release to him, at which point, it's deaded.

I was wondering everyone else's opinion because for a bright, businessminded guy like Logan it seemed to be a real bad idea ... particularly having said he was moving with the new digital era previously in the same interview.

[bailey_187]

i think its good about trying to get more DJs to use vinyl. it will mean sales wil go up and hopefully so will releases.

[Steez]

i think its good about trying to get more DJs to use vinyl. it will mean sales wil go up and hopefully so will releases.
I'm cool with tryin that but why not a dual release? So every base is covered?

Surely DJs looking to move into DJing right now will be looking at CD/MP3 decks and not vinyl?

Vinyl purism seems to be getting in the way of common sense imo

[bailey_187]

I'm cool with tryin that but why not a dual release? So every base is covered?

Surely DJs looking to move into DJing right now will be looking at CD/MP3 decks and not vinyl?

Vinyl purism seems to be getting in the way of common sense imo

he is releasing on cd/mp3 but releasing on vinyl first to give people more of an incentive to use vinyl. You cant download a vinyl, u can download a rip but rips are shit most the time so if people want a full quality tune early they need to buy the vinyl.
i have only been DJing grime since about may but decided to use vinyl instead of CDJs.

[Steez]

Why did you choose vinyl? I can't really see any incentives any more and I already have decks from way back.

And what you said about the quality of a vinyl rip - it's an interesting point, but, the noise etc. on a vinyl rip is the same as that of a vinyl ... so how is it really any different?

All that's happened is that the tune lost frequencies when it was mastered for vinyl ... essentially making it worse than a digi copy?

[Technician]

vinyl cdjs i get why ppl complain about.. it but the releases at the moment are in mp3 bailey why dont u get or ask tunes and cut them 2 dub like the old school days

[Steez]

Dub is what? ?30 two sides? Allow paying ?30 for one tune unless you're already big and making money from bookings a la Slimzee

[Technician]

Dub is what? ?30 two sides? Allow paying ?30 for one tune unless you're already big and making money from bookings a la Slimzee


well thats the only option der is really at this moment and btw ill holla at u later on the myspace im goin out ravin its friday lol

[Steez]

Mixvibes etc. in the long run is essentially CDJing with vinyl - and they last a lot longer and you can have more tunes ... kinda lol ... and yeah, cool, safe

[bailey_187]

Why did you choose vinyl? I can't really see any incentives any more and I already have decks from way back.

And what you said about the quality of a vinyl rip - it's an interesting point, but, the noise etc. on a vinyl rip is the same as that of a vinyl ... so how is it really any different?

All that's happened is that the tune lost frequencies when it was mastered for vinyl ... essentially making it worse than a digi copy?

before i started DJing i never realy took notice of vinyl releases but i knew grime was released on vinyl so thought that was the best thing to do. then about 2months later i realised hardly any new tunes had come out.
Plus i had some old beltdrives i used to try and do scracthing on and play hip hop on.

I rip tunes to my computer from vinyl somtimes(only for listening to) and the sound dosnt seem very good. seems to sound tinny. maybe i just have a shit USB turntable tho?


i cant cut dubs man thats to expensive for someone my age plus i only DJ at home so wouldnt really be worth it.

[Steez]

^ Kinda proving my point again ... if we really need more DJs, and more purchases of vinyl ... we need material that's cheap for when they're starting out.

We need like a 6 CD pack of the best instrumentals of 2006/2007 specifically for the CDJs to learn on and get started with or something ... because really, where else are CDJs gonna get tunes from?

[Steez]

^ Kinda proving my point again ... if we really need more DJs, and more purchases of vinyl ... we need material that's cheap for when they're starting out.

We need like a 6 CD pack of the best instrumentals of 2006/2007 specifically for the CDJs to learn on and get started with or something ... because really, where else are CDJs gonna get tunes from?

[gingerchris]

I think most djs that are serious about djing know that you have to be proficient with vinyl and cd/mp3. I use mostly cdj when I'm playing out but thats cos I've only been using vinyl for a few months and I'm not great (yet). Mixing with vinyl is more of an art, its less technical in my opinion because its a lot more analogue, you dont have a bpm counter on a 1210.

I think releasing tunes for djs on vinyl is a good idea, one of the important elements of being a good dj is that you spend time finding and collecting big tunes before anyone else gets them. It's not such an issue in grime really tho cos theres so few releases that you can pretty much just buy em all

[gingerchris]

^ Kinda proving my point again ... if we really need more DJs, and more purchases of vinyl ... we need material that's cheap for when they're starting out.

We need like a 6 CD pack of the best instrumentals of 2006/2007 specifically for the CDJs to learn on and get started with or something ... because really, where else are CDJs gonna get tunes from?

Starting out djing with cdjs is a pretty expensive game if you want some decent ones. Starting out with vinyl may be more expensive in the long run but i think its way beneficial to learn with vinyl because you pick up bad habits with cdjs. Plus with stuff like serato or torq, you can play mp3s through vinyl decks anyway.