is this guy actually serious

[fedfaced]

you know what im not with the label anymore so every1 shut up cos i didnt stop making grime im grime till the day i die R.A.T. out feb 09

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[casual]

It was one of them tricks still you know

[adidasgrandad]

lol wileys a funny old guy

[Mister Lacey]

LOL What he left Atlantic?

[Hij]

lmao

[adidasgrandad]

i bet they still have the single deal though

[Mister Lacey]

LOL If all that is true talk then I've lost some respect for him tbh.
Yeah he is Wiley but how many chances has Wiley had?
Maybe he is just talking...stirring it up in time for Rolex.

[RIP Jakey]

I reckon he meant Big Dada.

[critic of musical arts]

LOL If all that is true talk then I've lost some respect for him tbh.
Yeah he is Wiley but how many chances has Wiley had?
Maybe he is just talking...stirring it up in time for Rolex.

the label probably tried to mould him or someting n he wernt havin it

[Grimes]

wiley is bi-polar

[Mister Lacey]

the label probably tried to mould him or someting n he wernt havin it

Yeah but Wiley had had quite a few chances to "blow" and something always flops and half the time he says he is responsible for the departures ect.
Sometimes you gotta be smart man, if there was a problem he should have just went with what they were saying for Rolex, gave them their hit and they would have said cool now make us an album we'll push it and would probably let him make the album he wants. All labels want is that hit that secures people will pick up his album.

[whats_the_score?]

Big dada I'd say.

[Mister Lacey]

Must be Dada cos Wiley aint dumb, he knows what a good opportunity this all is for him.

[Mister Lacey]

And what happened to "King Wiley"? Is it an imaginary track?

[SCP]

feb 09? SMH

[slu-wasteguy]

lol to da person dat said wileys bi polar i honestly reckon 100 percent dat he is lol deres no other reason for his randomness

[W.A.R Martial]

wiley dosen't make sense half da time....

[adidasgrandad]

And what happened to "King Wiley"? Is it an imaginary track?


Logan Sama (London) wrote
at 1:02am on March 25th, 2008
Wiley has not yet recorded a tune called 'King Wiley'.
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according to logan on his facebook group it dont exist

[Nine Bar]

hes sniffin 2 much of dat shit up his nose....

he also talks 2 much imo, lettin the outsiders no 2 much, but then again i do think he knows what hes doing becuz hes been here way to many times before 2 not have learnt from his mistakes

the bottom line is if 08 isnt his year then he may azwell retire and if ne1 disagrees wiv dat den u may azwell log off right now.

[Runner]

the bottom line is if 08 isnt his year then he may azwell retire and if ne1 disagrees wiv dat den u may azwell log off right now.

Yeah I agree.

But I think it will be.

[U.M.P]

he probably means big dada

[RIP Jakey]

Just went to RWD and he said it in a Rolex thread dunno what hes thinking.

[Grimes]

i thought big dada was a long-term album deal

[RIP Jakey]

i thought big dada was a long-term album deal

nah was 1 album with a second option.

[Jay05]

If he is doing a big job on WMR then its bound to push back RAT. Wiley cant be expected to promote both to different audiences, especially when he struggles to promote one project at a time

[General Savimbi]

Just ignore him and he'll go away innit.

[Mister Lacey]

lol.

[Nine Bar]

Just ignore him and he'll go away innit.

cud say da same about u

[fedfaced]

yeh it was actually in context of the rolex track, it must mean atlantic

[Pristine Condition]

09!!!!

[KingSizeBlues]

he wasnt even with the label was he? swear it is just the track...

[Retrofreak]

I'm not gonna say I told you so.

[Danny Trejo]

wiley's too funny.

[compact]

wiley's too funny.

Alie!!!

[phen]

basically wiley does what wiley wants to do

he's not gonna do a shit video just because atlantic or whomever wants him to just like he's not going to release a dodgy electro album just becaust the record label wants him to. In the other rolex thread loads of you are crying because you think he's a sell out and now that he's not selling out you're all whinging

he can't win with some of you whatever he does

[fuk off]

basically wiley does what wiley wants to do

he's not gonna do a shit video just because atlantic or whomever wants him to just like he's not going to release a dodgy electro album just becaust the record label wants him to. In the other rolex thread loads of you are crying because you think he's a sell out and now that he's not selling out you're all whinging

he can't win with some of you whatever he does
Nail on the head

[D-Structo]

Why do people keep forgetting that the atlantic deal was for "wearing my rolex" only.

[Bluntwun]

he's not going to release a dodgy electro album just becaust the record label wants him to. In the other rolex thread loads of you are crying because you think he's a sell out and now that he's not selling out you're all whinging

he can't win with some of you whatever he does

Get me..

Thats the problem with this and other grime forums.. especially with ppls opinion to Dizzee and to a lesser extent Kano, and any other grime (i use the term loosely) act...
Don't feel as though you know more about their career than them.
Who ever said Wiley should retire if he doesnt blow is dumb, cos who care REALLY whether they blow in the mainstream or not..
As long as theyre makin good music then you can't say shit..
It's a bit surreal how theyre playing Wearing my rolex on capital fm and radio 1 daytime shows cos now everyone thinks they know Wiley when he aint nuthin like that in terms of tunes he makes..
Hear Taliban on Umbrella, thats classic Wiley watever way u look at it..

[R-Style]

probly big dada, he sed he left them in where u gonna hides 1st verse

"left big dada cos i didnt wanna stay there" 2 b exact

[4737]

he left big dada and went back, claiming it was to get them to show more attention or something.

he's talking about atlantic still. thing is, as d-structo said, the tune got signed. he's probably saying he "left" atlantic so peeps can be like "rah, he did this for grime!".

t.

[2snide]

wiley should stay off forums really - someone disconnect his dial up

[Grimes]

wiley should stay off forums really - someone disconnect his dial up

that won't cover up the fact that he is a moron

[Mister Lacey]

Nah man look.
I got respect for Wiley man he's done a lot and still does.
But he could do a lot following Rolex, if Rolex tops the charts he should have had his album ready EVEN if Atlantic wasn't backing it. Cos bare Rolex fans would just buy into the hype.
By 2009 only the same old heads will care.

[Mister Lacey]

Maybe he listens to the forums too much tbh.

[Retrofreak]

"Wiley's a talented fool"

[Runner]

Nah man look.
I got respect for Wiley man he's done a lot and still does.
But he could do a lot following Rolex, if Rolex tops the charts he should have had his album ready EVEN if Atlantic wasn't backing it. Cos bare Rolex fans would just buy into the hype.
By 2009 only the same old heads will care.

If this gets too big and your average chav family in bennidorm are doing the rolex dance at the hotel bar then it will be like the cheeky girls following up their single with a hardcore rap album.

When I saw Jammer do the Rolex dance I could see some people in my family doing this dance at Predros Family Tapas bar this summer.

Tho all going well if the album drops after summer on some sort of label then maybe he can do well, but he would need to have wearing my rolex on there otherwise people won't buy into it.

[Mister Lacey]

I just think if Wiley really wanted to sell records than he should have lined up the album ready for after Rolex dropped.

[Mister Lacey]

But I don't know, Rolex took off pretty quicky so maybe he wasn't prepared.

[Runner]

I just think if Wiley really wanted to sell records than he should have lined up the album ready for after Rolex dropped.

He will have one I reckon.

I reckon he could knock out a decent album in a month, with other peoples productions on it if he put his mind to it.

Plus Rolex will be big over the summer, and people usally cash in on the summer around september.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

grime wave

the best thing to have is people wanting more of your music

[Jay05]

the best artists of there genre tend to be tragic geniuses

i tend to put wiley into that group

[Nine Bar]

grime wave

the best thing to have is people wanting more of your music

.

[Alter E-ghost]

wiley is too much speaks his mind
no1 owns him lool

[SPOOKY DJ]

wiley is his own person

and it seems like ppl will not b happy regardless of whether ppl get big or get signed or not

[MedellinManDem]

the best artists of there genre tend to be tragic geniuses

i tend to put wiley into that group

Not to be funny, but don't disrespect the notion of genius by adding Wiley to it, please.

[TRU_G]

I couldn't give a shit about what label he is on, cos I don't think Grime and big labels go very well

What has pissed me off about that post is the fact RAT is coming in feb 09, taking the piss really

[SPOOKY DJ]

Maybe he listens to the forums too much tbh.

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[Ryddel]

wiley is jokes sometimes i dont think he realises

[pcollins]

damn wiley is bi polar that makes so much sense!

[Tzee]

As much as i respect wiley and his music, i personally feel he needs to grow up, his too focused on repping grime , he should be focusing about making good music. I ain't gonna knock him because he made track that appeals to an wider audience, but at times in his career he should of bit his tongue so he could prosper in the music industry but instead he didn't and now finds himself in the situation he finds himself in, which is;

Not being in one of the most successful record labels in the music industry because he never liked the video he was meant to be doing. Even though they offered him a lifeline to his drifting career.

Arguing on forums with his own fans that supported him before "wearing my rolex" was released.

And damaging the reputation of grime artists who may find it harder to be recognized by major labels , because they might assume that if the godfather of grime can't be professional, then the other grime artist might be worse.

[4737]

Swear, I would like wiley to succeed in music. I used to have bare faith in him from day. Since he started posting fraff like he was some semi-retarded yout, that's when things went over the line. I just think that, despite the poor choice made with "...rolex" he might as well play the game and see how it pans out with atlantic instead of being dismissive. A backdoor to majorland could serve him well still. They might not be feelin grime right now, but fact is, contacts are contacts innit. Throwing away opportunity after opportunity is really not indicative of smarts at all.

(im talking from the standpoint of an artist, not a "grime ambassador" or whatever. personal advancement is always more important that serving a scene merely for props.)

t.

[Mister Lacey]

Swear, I would like wiley to succeed in music. I used to have bare faith in him from day. Since he started posting fraff like he was some semi-retarded yout, that's when things went over the line. I just think that, despite the poor choice made with "...rolex" he might as well play the game and see how it pans out with atlantic instead of being dismissive. A backdoor to majorland could serve him well still. They might not be feelin grime right now, but fact is, contacts are contacts innit. Throwing away opportunity after opportunity is really not indicative of smarts at all.

(im talking from the standpoint of an artist, not a "grime ambassador" or whatever. personal advancement is always more important that serving a scene merely for props.)

t.


^^^^ Real.

[Retrofreak]

Swear, I would like wiley to succeed in music. I used to have bare faith in him from day. Since he started posting fraff like he was some semi-retarded yout, that's when things went over the line. I just think that, despite the poor choice made with "...rolex" he might as well play the game and see how it pans out with atlantic instead of being dismissive. A backdoor to majorland could serve him well still. They might not be feelin grime right now, but fact is, contacts are contacts innit. Throwing away opportunity after opportunity is really not indicative of smarts at all.

(im talking from the standpoint of an artist, not a "grime ambassador" or whatever. personal advancement is always more important that serving a scene merely for props.)

t.

^^^^100% Real Talk

[SCP]

Swear, I would like wiley to succeed in music. I used to have bare faith in him from day. Since he started posting fraff like he was some semi-retarded yout, that's when things went over the line. I just think that, despite the poor choice made with "...rolex" he might as well play the game and see how it pans out with atlantic instead of being dismissive. A backdoor to majorland could serve him well still. They might not be feelin grime right now, but fact is, contacts are contacts innit. Throwing away opportunity after opportunity is really not indicative of smarts at all.
(im talking from the standpoint of an artist, not a "grime ambassador" or whatever. personal advancement is always more important that serving a scene merely for props.)

t.

totally agree. and RAT coming out next year is a PAR
ghetto nailed it on the head when he said 'poor will now he's had about 4 deals/now he's back in the rave getting more wheels'
btw does any1 kno how much Playtime Is Over roughly sold?