Wiley "If I Get A Top Ten I Will Make Sure Grime Becomes Popular Music Do Not Worry "

[RISKY!]

1. What people think of it ?
2. Why Does Wiley Type Like This :s

[posted on rwd]

[Retrofreak]

To Wiley I say.

Don't talk about it...be about it..simple

[Hij]

This thread is gonna spiral into hate for Wiley and how its never gonna happen so Ill just echo RetroFreaks sentiments.

[Carter]

This thread is gonna spiral into hate for Wiley and how its never gonna happen so Ill just echo RetroFreaks sentiments.

flips the script and turns it into Risky has down syndrome thread...........and aids

[Danny Trejo]

If "UR Goin Out" isn't the follow-up single I'll be amazed.

[Danny Trejo]

flips the script and turns it into Risky has down syndrome thread...........and aids

actually made me laugh that.

[Anonymous]

HAHAHAHA
How silly.
I see whats gonna happen.

serious tho, WMR needs to be wiped off the face of the earth

[Hij]

flips the script and turns it into Risky has down syndrome thread...........and aids
LOOL

If "UR Goin Out" isn't the follow-up single I'll be amazed.
Would make sense.

Its a step towards grime from the first song, transition if you will.

[Anonymous]

If Your Going Out is a big tune. Thats on Grimewave yea?

[Carter]

LOL Wileys next track will be produced by H20 or T2.........get over it

[Hij]

LOL Wileys next track will be produced by H20 or T2.........get over it

America will probably go to war with us next!!....... get over it init

[Anonymous]

LOL Wileys next track will be produced by H20 or T2.........get over it

Co sign.
Thats what I mean, I can see whats gonna happen, Will knows he gonna do a Kane/Dizz and fuck off to do another genre (Electro/Bassline) for a while then return.
Good riddance.

[Carter]

Co sign.
Thats what I mean, I can see whats gonna happen, Will knows he gonna do a Kane/Dizz and fuck off to do another genre (Electro/Bassline) for a while then return.
Good riddance.

REAL TALK

**puts on Shake A Leg**

[whats_the_score?]

**puts on Shake A Leg**

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Anonymous]

lol thats why he coming with this talk like he some superstar thats gonna spread grime to the masses via the mainstream.
Then why come with an electro song? Its not a good look of what your representing.
He's just preparing all his fan boys, them ones that think its cool for a grime guy to do electro but not ok for a grime guy to do hip hop. Whats worse is that the song is a rip off of another tune and has a remix that rips off a 90's dance. Fix up the lot of you.

[Randy]

REAL TALK

**puts on Shake A Leg**

tuuune

[R.dot.Tubbs]

lol thats why he coming with this talk like he some superstar thats gonna spread grime to the masses via the mainstream.
Then why come with an electro song? Its not a good look of what your representing.
He's just preparing all his fan boys, them ones that think its cool for a grime guy to do electro but not ok for a grime guy to do hip hop. Whats worse is that the song is a rip off of another tune and has a remix that rips off a 90's dance. Fix up the lot of you.

This is exactly what i was getting at when people first started bredding this track.

[Miyagi Dan]

wearing my rolex thread part 45786763

[Retrofreak]

This is exactly what i was getting at when people first started bredding this track.

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[Hij]

LMAO that the song was only played first like 6-7 weeks ago.

[gingerchris]

You honestly think Wiley's gonna abandon grime?
Grime is in Wiley's blood.

[R.dot.Tubbs]

But on a positive note, everyone seems to be talking baout the track.

one next homo in my class in college was just playing the tune from his phone. He was also tryna talk about wiley like to say he's been a fan of grime from day.

[Anonymous]

You honestly think Wiley's gonna abandon grime?
Grime is in Wiley's blood.

If grime is "in Wileys blood" why is he targeting mainstream sucess via bait electro tunes. He is not representing grime at all with WMR.

[whats_the_score?]

You honestly think Wiley's gonna abandon grime?
Grime is in Wiley's blood.

c'mon he is going for the money, yeah he has been down with grime from day one and now he has seen another avenue to travel down, which may mean he becomes a very rich man.

[Hij]

If grime is "in Wileys blood" why is he targeting mainstream sucess via bait electro tunes. He is not representing grime at all with WMR.

Maybe, and I wouldn't blame him here, he's sick and tired of doing grime and getting nowhere, with hardly any appreciation from anyone in the scene who cusses every single CD he puts out, while he sees artist after artist (and possibly even Chipmunk now) go through now and wants to make himself a bit of the music money and get a bit of status himself.

If he wants to put out of songs like WMR, then try and break 'If Your Going Out' or 'Real Life Not a Show' to do that fair enough, it might also give him an avenue to start dropping grimier stuff on a sly who knows, but so long as he drops Grime Wave and other Grime Releases, Im getting my grime music, hes getting his money- wheres the problem? I know its all a deep rooted feeling within us all that we'd like the genre to 'blow' and get recognition, well for now seeing as it isn't, Im happy to 'let' Wiley do some commercial tracks as long as he's still putting out some Grime for us underground guys as well unlike other guys who
do the commercial but then disappear never to be seen again.

You forget sometimes he started with Drum and Bass and Garage. I don't begrudge him anything and he is only of the only guys who will truly retain legend status years after the current crop of grime artists have gone by.

Its one fucking song, YEARS after Dizzee Rascal blew, so fuck it.

[Hij]

c'mon he is going for the money, yeah he has been down with grime from day one and now he has seen another avenue to travel down, which may mean he becomes a very rich man.

He has the respect of all of the scene, the youngers and people still look up to him, I fail to see why he can't do both.

Im fairly confident he will as well, afterall, all we know is Atlantic signed the one song.

[gingerchris]

c'mon he is going for the money, yeah he has been down with grime from day one and now he has seen another avenue to travel down, which may mean he becomes a very rich man.

Wiley will not become an electro star. Theres just as many struggling artists in electro as there is in grime, if not more. I really don't think this one successful tune is gonna make Wiley drop the genre that he's pioneered, championed and lead from the start.

[Anonymous]

Yea I got no problem with the dude getting his money and doing whatever, but Im just sick of all the people quick to say stuff about other artists but not Wiley and also all the people that live in some little world where Wiley will never leave grime and Dizzee is gonna return tomorrow.

[gingerchris]

I honestly can't see Wiley ever leaving grime. When you put this much of your life into something, it's always going to be a part of you. Even if Wiley does start making mainstream music I bet he'd still drop grime mixtapes

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

wiley wont leave grime.

[Hij]

Yea I got no problem with the dude getting his money and doing whatever, but Im just sick of all the people quick to say stuff about other artists but not Wiley and also all the people that live in some little world where Wiley will never leave grime and Dizzee is gonna return tomorrow.
But thats the thing.

Wiley evidently won't leave the scene he feels he played a part in creating.

Its one song.

[Hij]

Even if Wiley does start making mainstream music I bet he'd still drop grime mixtapes

If that happened, I can't say I'd be too disappointed- as long as said mixtapes kept getting released.

[whats_the_score?]

What if he trys to drag grime artists on into making electro tunes?

He already got Skepta dancing!

This may just be a fad, but I dunno.

[Anonymous]

But thats the thing.

Wiley evidently won't leave the scene he feels he played a part in creating.

Its one song.



Now I didnt say he would ever leave grime permanently did I? and you cant say he wont ever do anything else outside of grime full stop coz hes just done a electro tune.
Never say never coz who knows what the future holds except mystic meg.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

imo wiley loves war and bein a big fish (no Homo) too much

[Nine Bar]

in one lyric im sure he said suttin like "i got 3 paths i can go down" ie grime, electro, acoustic/funkyhouse or suttin

If your going out..needs 2 b the next single if not sumfin fresh.

wiley will neva leave grime if he wants 2 get mainstream via anotha genre, as long as one way or anotha he puts grime hits on the industry map i cudnt give a fuk.

i do fink wiley and the whole hype round his tune is ott at da moment, ppl are sayin its a numba 1 hit, top 10 or wateva but if he jus scrapes in the top 40 then what...he blew his chance again

[Hij]

I didnt say he would ever leave grime permanently did I? and you cant say he wont ever do anything else outside of grime full stop coz hes just done a bait electro tune.
Never say never coz who knows what the future holds except mystic meg.

Im just giving you the facts though. Just the ONE song was signed, and hes set to release a Grime Mixtape and a Grime Album.

I never said he wouldn't do more commercial tunes down the line either.

[Hij]

What if he trys to drag grime artists on into making electro tunes?

He already got Skepta dancing!

This may just be a fad, but I dunno.
Come on man, you can't convert back to the teenage worrying man, you lef that behind when you became a man! :D

Have faith, and let your wallet do the talking, don't support stuff you don't like and support stuff you do like.

Which brings up another interesting point, anyone posting in this thread who openly downloads bootleg material and never buys any music, doesn't even have the right to be pissed off at Wiley IMO.

[Nine Bar]

Come on man, you can't convert back to the teenage worrying man, you lef that behind when you became a man! :D

Have faith, and let your wallet do the talking, don't support stuff you don't like and support stuff you do like.

Which brings up another interesting point, anyone posting in this thread who openly downloads bootleg material and never buys any music, doesn't even have the right to be pissed off at Wiley IMO.

very true

[whats_the_score?]

Come on man, you can't convert back to the teenage worrying man, you lef that behind when you became a man! :D



looooooool

[hyperfrank]

I like WMR so when is up to buy, I shall...
This tune is getting hype because it is so club friendly...
Wiley's been making grime for years and no success.
See what the guys doing underneath all your dumbness.
You make think the hype is ott and the tune is crap but within a couple of weeks of making this tune it got signed by a big label, mad radio play and mixed up in clubs that he could of never of dreamed of getting with a grime tune. Wiley doesn't even care much for the tune but he knows what he's doing. So just let in unfold.

[adidasgrandad]

wiley is grime still. he wont leave. he just wants to make some big money.
wileys grime can go big if given the right stage to do so and some people dont realise how big he actually is. he just needs the right stage to go big and atlantic can give him that promotional push his music. if he has to release a electro tune first then so be it.
if they dont let him follow up with a grime tune he will leave - we know he will. his reputation is too important to him

[Anonymous]

It is such a shit tune. Its like Crank That all over again but the UK version and I dont expect it to sell nearly as much

[MedellinManDem]

lol thats why he coming with this talk like he some superstar thats gonna spread grime to the masses via the mainstream.
Then why come with an electro song? Its not a good look of what your representing.
He's just preparing all his fan boys, them ones that think its cool for a grime guy to do electro but not ok for a grime guy to do hip hop. Whats worse is that the song is a rip off of another tune and has a remix that rips off a 90's dance. Fix up the lot of you.

alie familia

[Carter]

LOL @ the people supporting this but dissing Dizzee Rascal in the other thread........bare back slapping business

[Retrofreak]

LOL @ the people supporting this but dissing Dizzee Rascal in the other thread........bare back slapping business

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[Carter]

LOL @ the people supporting this but dissing Dizzee Rascal in the other thread........bare back slapping business

LOL......Bare Back

[MedellinManDem]

LOL @ the people supporting this but dissing Dizzee Rascal in the other thread........bare back slapping business

Jah know.

[Nine Bar]

wiley is grime still. he wont leave. he just wants to make some big money.
wileys grime can go big if given the right stage to do so and some people dont realise how big he actually is. he just needs the right stage to go big and atlantic can give him that promotional push his music. if he has to release a electro tune first then so be it.
if they dont let him follow up with a grime tune he will leave - we know he will. his reputation is too important to him

full stop

[hyperfrank]

LOL @ people hating but when it comes on in a club they do the rolex sweep.

[Quality Control]

Wiley is the G.O.A.T.

[MedellinManDem]

LOL @ people hating but when it comes on in a club they do the rolex sweep.

Name one person who you know to have done that...

[Nine Bar]

LOL @ people hating but when it comes on in a club they do the rolex sweep.

lol i wouldnt go that far that dance is just for ppl like sunjay :stunned:

but yh when i heard it in a club las week i along wiv hundreds of other ppl was gettin a serious skank on

the beat is too much and ive said before if it doesnt make u move ur sir stiffalot

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

wiley has been a grime kid for too long to turn his back on the scene now

[gingerchris]

LOL @ people hating but when it comes on in a club they do the rolex sweep.

If someone did the rolex sweep whilst I was djing I'd pack up and leave

[Carter]

Name one person who you know to have done that...

yeah outside of soho, who does that lol

[Danny Trejo]

Where did this dance come from though, seriously? Talking about people doing it in clubs, I didn't even know it existed until yesterday.

[Carter]

Where did this dance come from though, seriously? Talking about people doing it in clubs, I didn't even know it existed until yesterday.

THANK YOU

Stop the hype

[RISKY!]

http://grimeshit.blogspot.com/2008/03/rolex-sweep.html

people doing the dance

[Hij]

THANK YOU

Stop the hype
Rolex Sweeps been going for a couple months now.

[adidasgrandad]

Wiley is the G.O.A.T.

the doctor said that i had that on my toe...

[Top Lad]

Bare haters on this thread. The one guy who you can call grime through n through might make it and people are quick to hate on him. So what if his breakthrough choone wernt grime?? Has he sed hes goona stop making it ? Nah .

Some of you guys would bust a nut at the thought of grime going completely mainstream yet its not gonna go mainstream the way it is going right now.

If it aint broke, don't fix it. Well its the opposite at the moment with regards to the situation of 'grime'. People need to be doing DIFFERENT things and thats what Wiley has done.

[Druggy]

LOL u guys r harsh but true

[Quality Control]

the doctor said that i had that on my toe...

Wiley's been sucking your toes?

[adidasgrandad]

Wiley's been sucking your toes?

what?no lol

http://www.goutcare.co.uk/?gclid=CKzap8m0rZICFSaIaAodcmqUQA i was trying to be funny.

[RISKY!]

i was trying to be funny.
LOOOL


the song is okay still & the dance is ok.. but its only for the hardcore fans [SunJay] & older people. -- its like the okie-kokkie noone young would ever do that.

[Carter]

LOL breakthrough.........Bare lost people

[RISKY!]

I Know Its Not Grime But Is Music That Radio Likes So If Im Tellin You That There Is No Go Without Radio 1 Then Shutup Innit No Radio 1 No Hits And I Told You I Aint Stopped Doin Grime

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[S.Man]

I liked the song when it came out...

now i cnt stand it. I think the dance is waste too.

BUT i still wish Wiley the best, after all he has done for the scene and i know will continue to do for it. Its not like he is gunna jet off to America n jump on a hip-hop flex.
He is the godfather of grime and after all the work n effort he put in he deserves some success at last!

[Hij]

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Is that from RWD?

Link him here man lol

[RISKY!]

Is that from RWD?

Link him here man lol


some1 message wiley & tell him 2 join up here.
Full Topic: http://www.rwdmag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95962


i might get every on rwd again :laugh:

[Hij]

Yeah someone tell him here is better.

[RISKY!]

In music i do what i want no label can tell me what to do

LOL

[whats_the_score?]

Yeah someone tell him here is better.

I have he has an account, but he doesn't wanna use it by the looks of it!

[Anonymous]

No dont get him here. The whole forum turns in to wiley fan boys

[Retrofreak]

No dont get him here. The whole forum turns in to wiley fan boys

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[Eric Cantona]

lol, it would happen if any mc joined the forum still.

[quality]

Big up Wiley. He's made a tune that's radio accessible and will then drop a grime album. The stuff I've been hearing lately is fucked.

[Tickbites]

Wiley Wont Stray.
Wileys Been Doing This Grime Thing For Long, He Deserves To Experiment And Make More Money. Hes Done Alot For The Scene.
I Believe Him When He Says He'll Get Grime More Popular.
Most People Dont Even Know What There Talking About On Here.
I Thought Most People Would Support Wiley With Whatever He Does After What Hes Done For Grime.

[Tickbites]

I didnt mean to write like him either lol. no bredder.

[Ransom]

i see bare new memebers dissing wiley on there

[Ari Gold]

nah fuck it, go on wiley.

theres no part of me which sees him boying grime. hes gona make his name bigger and better, then bust a nut of grime all over the mainstreams face.

[Nine Bar]

I Thought Most People Would Support Wiley With Whatever He Does After What Hes Done For Grime.

so did i

[Quality Control]

nah fuck it, go on wiley.

theres no part of me which sees him boying grime. hes gona make his name bigger and better, then bust a nut of grime all over the mainstreams face.

slightly gay metaphor but i agree... although i don't think his mainstream shine will last long

[Carter]

slightly gay metaphor but i agree... although i don't think his mainstream shine will last long

Pictures of Maximum and Spyro and now this lol

[Ari Gold]

LOOL fuck off carter

[S.Man]

Pictures of Maximum and Spyro and now this lol

Details on these pics. (no homo)

[Quality Control]

Details on these pics. (no homo)

i think you need an extra no homo before you're safe, here you go:

NO HOMO

[critic of musical arts]

if he lives up to his word then nuff props to the veteran

[General Savimbi]

Needs to stop talking imo.

[Retrofreak]

Needs to stop talking imo.

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[Young Spray]

Hearing he walked off the vidoe shoot last Wed.

Based on bare female foxes in his pocket or something with a budget of £27,000.

Sound like Will weren't happy with the direction the vid was going.

Could be bullshit got it off VIP2.

[Hij]

Rumour is doing the rounds.

[Eric Cantona]

Its true he walked of set, he said it on RWD.

Good on him, if its not right then he shouldn't do it.

[4737]

Hearing he walked off the vidoe shoot last Wed.

Based on bare female foxes in his pocket or something with a budget of £27,000.

Sound like Will weren't happy with the direction the vid was going.

Could be bullshit got it off VIP2.


he was happy with the shitty vids for my 50/50 and my mistakes but not happy with a £27k budget?

Will, ARE YOU TWEAKIN?

t.

[Hij]

Its true he walked of set, he said it on RWD.

Good on him, if its not right then he shouldn't do it.

Are they doing the shoot again? Did they get enough of him?

[quality]

If he's matured like he says he has, he'd do the video and just sit back and watch as MTV Base rinse it.

[Hij]

Hes just admitted he walked out though :(

£27k as well.

[MedellinManDem]

The song is big, but it's not gonna suddenly make Wiley a star...I don't see where the hype is...:S

[Hij]

The song is big, but it's not gonna suddenly make Wiley a star...I don't see where the hype is...:S
Yeah but the video would have given him a lot of much needed publicity and expose his face to the world once again on a large scale.

IMO its a shame if he hasn't actually done the video.

[MedellinManDem]

Look, I rate Wiley (highly) but I think he shot his bolt with Igloo.

[Retrofreak]

Mans need to stop resting the hopes of Grime on Wiley.

He's had his time and he repped ,but his too old and foolish to change his way's now.

Let the young blood though so they can learn from his mistakes and take it further.

[ALM]

lol big up will

[U.M.P]

i dunno bout him makin it popular we will have to wait and see for that

[S.Man]

apparantly they shot the rest of the video witout him.

Still i respect him for standing up to the majors. If i was in his position id want it dun my way.

again, he is probably not doin himself any favors!

[Tickbites]

Mans need to stop resting the hopes of Grime on Wiley.

He's had his time and he repped ,but his too old and foolish to change his way's now.

Let the young blood though so they can learn from his mistakes and take it further.

Wileys new material has been good. How can he be too old? Theres no age limit. Foolish in the past maybe by bringing out too much stuff with not enough quality but I think this year, he's upped his levels and by doing this I think others around have upped theirs ie. Skepta with his new tunes and Ghetto with FOS. People jumping on his back to quick, just let him do his thing init.

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

i'd have so much respect for him if he walked off the shoot because he didn't like where it was going.
he has to be sensible with this though

[phen]

anyone who thinks that wileys going to jump ship from grime and just make bait electro tunes is retarded.

he's done 3 or 4 'sell out' tunes in the last 7 years or so compared to 100's of grime tunes.

If he was proper selling out then he would have done this video and not just fucked it off

[Grimes]

anyone who thinks that wileys going to jump ship from grime and just make bait electro tunes is retarded.

he's done 3 or 4 'sell out' tunes in the last 7 years or so compared to 100's of grime tunes.

If he was proper selling out then he would have done this video and not just fucked it off

only wiley knows

[Quality Control]

Mans need to stop resting the hopes of Grime on Wiley.

He's had his time and he repped ,but his too old and foolish to change his way's now.

Let the young blood though so they can learn from his mistakes and take it further.

fuck the young blood, they dont make as good music as Wiley. simple as that

bare hate for Wiley from so-called grime fans... let the man do his thing, if he fucks up who cares as long as he keeps making music for the fans... it's not like it's you losing any money or credibility

end of the day, every man is out for themselves and Wiley should his own needs above those of the scene, like i would if i was an MC


edit: and a single cross-over song does NOT constitute selling out, retards

[R.dot.Tubbs]

If anyone feels down and needs cheering up i suggest you read this topic >>>> http://www.rwdmag.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95962

Funniest thread ive read in ages.

[ALM]

If Wiley has to make the odd cross over song to keep funding him making grime i dont have a problem.

[Retrofreak]

fuck the young blood, they dont make as good music as Wiley. simple as that

bare hate for Wiley from so-called grime fans... let the man do his thing, if he fucks up who cares as long as he keeps making music for the fans... it's not like it's you losing any money or credibility

end of the day, every man is out for themselves and Wiley should his own needs above those of the scene, like i would if i was an MC


edit: and a single cross-over song does NOT constitute selling out, retards


Wiley should start producing some of the youngers as he'll get more milage out of being a producer than trying to be an artist at this point in his career.

[G.K.]

Maybe, and I wouldn't blame him here, he's sick and tired of doing grime and getting nowhere, with hardly any appreciation from anyone in the scene who cusses every single CD he puts out, while he sees artist after artist (and possibly even Chipmunk now) go through now and wants to make himself a bit of the music money and get a bit of status himself.

If he wants to put out of songs like WMR, then try and break 'If Your Going Out' or 'Real Life Not a Show' to do that fair enough, it might also give him an avenue to start dropping grimier stuff on a sly who knows, but so long as he drops Grime Wave and other Grime Releases, Im getting my grime music, hes getting his money- wheres the problem? I know its all a deep rooted feeling within us all that we'd like the genre to 'blow' and get recognition, well for now seeing as it isn't, Im happy to 'let' Wiley do some commercial tracks as long as he's still putting out some Grime for us underground guys as well unlike other guys who
do the commercial but then disappear never to be seen again.

You forget sometimes he started with Drum and Bass and Garage. I don't begrudge him anything and he is only of the only guys who will truly retain legend status years after the current crop of grime artists have gone by.

Its one fucking song, YEARS after Dizzee Rascal blew, so fuck it.

Big up Hij. ^^^ At the end of the day Wiley isn't leaving the scene. FOR GOD'S SAKE HIS NEX CD IS CALLED GRIME WAVE He jus want some money. This will be good for Grime in the long run.

[G.K.]

Wiley should start producing some of the youngers as he'll get more milage out of being a producer than trying to be an artist at this point in his career.

Fuck off with that shit. Wiley's music is better then every younger. He is making some the best music of his carrier atm, have u not heard his recent tracks. If anything his production is slipping.

[Quality Control]

and Wearing My Rolex is a single... it's whole purpose is to make money and publicise his album!

[Retrofreak]

Fuck off with that shit. Wiley's music is better then every younger. He is making some the best music of his carrier atm, have u not heard his recent tracks. If anything his production is slipping.

Wiley will go further with a more Dr Dre type mindset of using his production skill to develop fresh talent that will appeal to a younger market.

He will have a longer shelf life if he does this..

At the moment Wiley is starting to look old and drawn in like Michael Jackson in his video's.

If you cant see this you obviously don't get it.

[Quality Control]

Wiley will go further with a more Dr Dre type mindset of using his production skill to develop fresh talent that will appeal to a younger market.

He will have a longer shelf life if he does this..

At the moment Wiley is starting to look old and drawn in like Michael Jackson in his video's.

If you cant see this you obviously don't get.

he's on better form than he's been in for a long time and every tune i've heard from Grime Wave/Race Against Time has been good.. you usually talk some sense but this looks like straight hating to me

why would anyone want someone who still makes good music to just stop??

him being 30 years old is a minor aswell

[Eric Cantona]

Retrofreak your talking fraff.

[Retrofreak]

he's on better form than he's been in for a long time and every tune i've heard from Grime Wave/Race Against Time has been good.. you usually talk some sense but this looks like straight hating to me

why would anyone want someone who still makes good music to just stop??

him being 30 years old is a minor aswell

man,

I'm not hating at all,

I'm being constructive.

I've stated that he could have a longer shelf life if he developed artists.

They could learn from the mistakes he made in the past and move this thing forward instead of hitting the same glass roof his hitting now.

Show me where I'm hating??

I've never said he should stop I'm saying he should focus on grooming the next great Grime artist.

His age is not the issue here ...It's juat that all the hard WORK is starting to show.

[Mister Lacey]

and Wearing My Rolex is a single... it's whole purpose is to make money and publicise his album!

!

[Retrofreak]

Retrofreak your talking fraff.

???

[Tickbites]

If he's making money whilst vocalling why would he stop and start producing for youngers you wolly. Why can't he do both? Wolly.

[TRU_G]

If he wants to put out of songs like WMR, then try and break 'If Your Going Out' or 'Real Life Not a Show' to do that fair enough, it might also give him an avenue to start dropping grimier stuff on a sly who knows, but so long as he drops Grime Wave and other Grime Releases, Im getting my grime music, hes getting his money- wheres the problem?

Real talk

I gaurantee if you lot could make big money from hardly any work (face its not exactly a musical masterpiece) you would do it LIKE THAT

As long as he carries on making grime I am happy

[Retrofreak]

If he's making money whilst vocalling why would he stop and start producing for youngers you wolly. Why can't he do both? Wolly.

Who said anything about stopping??

I said he should focus on producing a solid album for a worthy protege as Grime is on Wiley's shoulders.

He is NOT good at multi-tasking..

It's better to focus on less and do it well than do allot of things badly like he has done in the past.

Do NOT call me names as I have not offended you in anyway and you do not know me.

I have simply reiterated what "Wiley" said he was going to do anyway (before his brief retirement.)

This simple strategy has and continous to work for big producers like:

Jam&Lewis
Dr Dre
Jermaine Dupri
Timbaland

Basically as a producer he can constantly re-invent himself by having other artist front his sound and he can launch his own albums of the back of that...simple

[Runner]

I think Wiley will get to No.1

Top 3 easy if not.

[MedellinManDem]

I think Wiley will get to No.1

Top 3 easy if not.

LOL @ thinking Estelle w/ Kanye West is gonna be knocked off the perch by a tune that is only big in London....

[Runner]

LOL @ thinking Estelle w/ Kanye West is gonna be knocked off the perch by a tune that is only big in London....

don't take long sounds like this to work the clubs and the youth club cd players.

Look at T2 came out of nowhere for those not in the know.

[Mister Lacey]

Wiley could easily go number one with Rolex. I think it's probably enter at 5 or 6 and then climb up to number one in its 2nd or 3rd week.

[Retrofreak]

When's Rolex out anyway?

[Mister Lacey]

Early April I think?

[Retrofreak]

Once they service the Video well and jump up the playlist anything can happen.

It's gonna come down to who else will be released that week and how much support he gets from the playlist and downloads.

Their gonna have to blitz the video from now though.