Hip hop influence in grime production?

[Hiro Nakagrime]

I hear alot of tunes classified as bangers and they have elements of hip hop in them whether its the type of kicks snares(e.g. Gully Brook lanes 808) to maniacs speed up hip hop sounding drum pattern. I hear alot of Rude Kid beats and I think rah this literally sounds like a speed up heat maker tune.

[Quite a character]

yeah its a par aint it. and the same ppl who lick maniacs balls would write a tune off coz its 'yank'

[RIP Jakey]

I think theres far too much Hip Hip influence in grime beats right now, I want some garage influenced tunes. Producers right now need to look at Alias and beats from them times and try to bring some of them elements back into grime otherwise we'll end up with fast hip hop.

[Quite a character]

i gave up hope when duppy got called techno by grime fans

[deadout]

on a side note, anyone heard the Duppy Bassline dub?

it's actually really good

[RIP Jakey]

on a side note, anyone heard the Duppy Bassline dub?

it's actually really good

Yeah thats alot.

[TRU_G]

Bring back 2 step drum patterns

[Runner]

Grime started with those mad drum beats.

2 step or anything funky you can dance to.

[Wiz]

Grime started with those mad drum beats.

2 step or anything funky you can dance to.
Yeah they need to be brought back, but I keep finding myself making bassline or electro house everytime I put them in lol, it's all about the proper combination of drum elements.

[Quite a character]

i rate spyro coz atm hes the only one i can think of whos doing them kinda patterns, and nocturnal

[Steez]

Why are people still stuck on this? Grime is just UKs take on Hip Hop, yes it's a bit faster, but subject mattr is essentially the same, and so is the release schedule etc. now

Grime is just the UK guys doing US Hip Hop without the commercial appeal brought in by major labels and major money.

[Quite a character]

Why are people still stuck on this? Grime is just UKs take on Hip Hop, yes it's a bit faster, but subject mattr is essentially the same, and so is the release schedule etc. now

Grime is just the UK guys doing US Hip Hop without the commercial appeal brought in by major labels and major money.

it didnt used to be though, thats the point.

[Runner]

it didnt used to be though, thats the point.

Yeah it used to be fresh and sound nothing like Hip Hop.

I swear it wasn't about money either it was about expression.

[Steez]

Yeah it used to be fresh and sound nothing like Hip Hop.

I swear it wasn't about money either it was about expression.
True. The money thing is a direct clone of America. Yeah, true ... it was just grimey guys barsing at radio to get it out.

[quality]

Wiley beats don't sound like hip-hop still. Neither does JME's stuff like Mario Flag. When its done properly, grime lends as much from electro as hip-hop.

[Runner]

Id rather hear grime mcs on garage.

[margadread]

Grime is Hip Hop in disguise, same drum patterns, generic basslines

or theres the whole orchestral grime wich IS hip hop

[logick]

its all music at the end of the day..uk music is not big so if hip hop is a stepping stone 4 artist and producers then so be it..

[Jason P]

I don't care. If it's good - IT'S GOOD!

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[Quite a character]

Grime is Hip Hop in disguise, same drum patterns, generic basslines

or theres the whole orchestral grime wich IS hip hop

thNK YOU!

[true storys]

Loooooooool Its About Road And It Always Has Been, Even People Like Jme, A Normal Black Yoot From Norf Started Off Talking Bout Puttin Holes In Stuff And Shotting Rocks....... Da Thing Is Everystyle Of Music Changes If It Stayed The Same It Would Be Dead.. Alie