Grime MCs in America

[Kaizer]

As probably everyone here knows, Jay Sean is now signed to Lil Wayne's label; Cash Money Records. For his first US single, Down (Featuring Lil Wayne) he's flown over a couple Mc's (Chipmunk, Tinie Tempah & Ghetto) to feature as cameos. This got me thinking.. who do you think would be the biggest success in the US of A?

I really really think Durrty Goodz would succeed up there, he's better than most of what they've got and always comes with original stuff... thinking about it got me annoyed cos I realised he really SHOULD be up there showing his stuff around and getting some exposure...

Anyone agree? If you could take 1 MC to USA to showcase the UKs talent and maybe get a deal, who would you take with you?

[110]

as you said goodz is 1 name which if you did bring him you could almost b certain that he does well

[Grimbo]

Ghetto.

[RIP Jakey]

no-one from grime will do well in the US because they'll be judged on Hip Hop terms and will flop.

They can't even blow over here.

[Kaizer]

Peter Petrelli, What do you mean "they'll be judged on hip hop terms"?

[JACK]

Peter Petrelli, What do you mean "they'll be judged on hip hop terms"?

hip hop label, hip hop audience, hip hop expectations nah?

edit - dam, i promised myself i wont post in shit threads..

[Skeptical]

no-one from grime will do well in the US because they'll be judged on Hip Hop terms and will flop.

They can't even blow over here.

this tbh

[RIP Jakey]

Peter Petrelli, What do you mean "they'll be judged on hip hop terms"?

they'll look at them as rappers rather than grime mcs and judge them by that standard. Wiley's a sick grime MC but a hip hop fan would laugh at most of his bars.

[Kaizer]

So do you think if you went up to Lil Wayne and gave him Axiom EP, he would be unimpressed?

[GrimesFirstIndieKid]

no-one from grime will do well in the US because they'll be judged on Hip Hop terms and will flop.

Based on this, people like Chipmunk, Wretch 32, Tinchy Stryder.

[Jay]

US got to hear Goodz already on the track him and Rodney P did with David Banner.

[RIP Jakey]

Based on this, people like Chipmunk, Wretch 32, Tinchy Stryder.

do you ever wonder why you're in the red or do you see what the rest of us see?

[critic of musical arts]

they'll look at them as rappers rather than grime mcs and judge them by that standard. Wiley's a sick grime MC but a hip hop fan would laugh at most of his bars.

Real talk tbh, unless the grime market opens in the us there is no chance they will be taken seriously

[RIP Jakey]

So do you think if you went up to Lil Wayne and gave him Axiom EP, he would be unimpressed?

he'd ask you what goodz was saying

[Kaizer]

I dont really get why people think they wont be taken seriously, if someone like Durrty Goodz or Random Impulse were to have a freestyling session with most US rappers they'd show them whats good.

[Kaizer]

he'd ask you what goodz was saying

LOL maybe, but at the same time he'd recognise the obvious talent. USA loved rappers like Twista and Busta Rhymes with their crazily fast flows..

[Jay]

Impulse has already been working in the US. It doesn't matter what US MC's think of ours. Your standard US hip hop fan will have all the standard fuck brits bullshit mentality.

[Kaizer]

Impulse has already been working in the US. It doesn't matter what US MC's think of ours.

How have they been receiving him...

[RIP Jakey]

LOL maybe, but at the same time he'd recognise the obvious talent. USA loved rappers like Twista and Busta Rhymes with their crazily fast flows..

reference points and accents would make it hard for him to understand half of what Goodz says.


It doesn't matter what US MC's think of ours.

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[RIP Jakey]

Your standard US hip hop fan will have all the standard fuck brits bullshit mentality.

.


How have they been receiving him...

He's been working with Linkin park I believe, hasn't released anything tho.

[GrimesFirstIndieKid]

do you ever wonder why you're in the red or do you see what the rest of us see?

Tbh, i don't give a shit if its red, blue, green or yellow.

My point was the fella said about hip-hop, and i said "based on this", so you'd have to suggest non-grime artists.

[RIP Jakey]

Tbh, i don't give a shit if its red, blue, green or yellow.

My point was the fella said about hip-hop, and i said "based on this", so you'd have to suggest non-grime artists.

so based on what US hip hop fans look for...you'd send chipmunk and stryder :stunned:

[Tony Starks]

So do you think if you went up to Lil Wayne and gave him Axiom EP, he would be unimpressed?
Loool

[Tony Starks]

As probably everyone here knows, Jay Sean is now signed to Lil Wayne's label; Cash Money Records. For his first US single, Down (Featuring Lil Wayne) he's flown over a couple Mc's (Chipmunk, Tinie Tempah & Ghetto) to feature as cameos.
Hold tight Jay sean for this cos he really didn't have to...its not like he's in the grime scene or anyfing he's just supporting uk talent

[Kaizer]

True the reference points would be a problem but at the same time Grime could easily make small adjustments thatd bring them success and make them internationally renowned rappers

[Jay]

Concentrate on getting more than 5 people on your own street enjoying your music before you go for america really.

[RIP Jakey]

this is boring now, cliche

[Trueform.]

Grime is written in English not American.
I dont mean that in a ignorant way, If you think about it Im right ^
Its like giving a christian the Q'uarn, a vegetarian beef.

It just doesn't apply or translate to them IMO.

[Kaizer]

An artist who isnt that succesful by US standards is doing better than a good artist here, so if we were to fly over a couple of our best they could do really well for themselves as well as providing some needed advertising and exposure of the scene as a whole over here, maybe paving the way for more people to do the same..

[GrimesFirstIndieKid]

so based on what US hip hop fans look for...you'd send chipmunk and stryder :stunned:

Ah thats not what was said. It was said about hip-hop in general. So i'd send them guys based on the fact that they are going to do better hip-hop than Dot Rotten or Ghetts, imo.

[Remarkz]

The reason Grime won't take off in the US is 'cos they can't relate to the music.

The major reason that most of the youth in the ends listen to grime is 'cos they can relate to whats being said.

[Mazer Rackham]

The reason Grime won't take off in the US is 'cos they can't relate to the music.

The major reason that most of the youth in the ends listen to grime is 'cos they can relate to whats being said.

its mostly white people that buy hip hop in america, as they make up 70% ish of the population. so they already cant relate. they just relate to grime less than hip hop.

[Remarkz]

its mostly white people that buy hip hop in america, as they make up 70% ish of the population. so they already cant relate. they just relate to grime less than hip hop.

So just because they're white they can't relate to poverty and crime?

Dont be dumb.

[Tony Starks]

Ah thats not what was said. It was said about hip-hop in general. So i'd send them guys based on the fact that they are going to do better hip-hop than Dot Rotten or Ghetts, imo.
So ur under the illusion stryder and chipmunk can make better hip-hop than Ghetto and Dot Rotten???

Well, that's my cue to leave this thread...

[Mazer Rackham]

So just because they're white they can't relate to poverty and crime?

Dont be dumb.

im not talking about poor white people as hip hop's biggest demographic. im talking about middle-class white people that probably par with 1 black guy. or none at all. a bit like most of the posters on this forum.

[GrimesFirstIndieKid]

So ur under the illusion stryder and chipmunk can make better hip-hop than Ghetto and Dot Rotten???

Well, that's my cue to leave this thread...

Ghetts and Dot = Grime.

[Biggavell.]

Grime is written in English not American.
I dont mean that in a ignorant way, If you think about it Im right ^
Its like giving a christian the Q'uarn, a vegetarian beef.

It just doesn't apply or translate to them IMO.


The dumbest post in a while WTF are you talkin about

[Biggavell.]

The reason Grime won't take off in the US is 'cos they can't relate to the music.

The major reason that most of the youth in the ends listen to grime is 'cos they can relate to whats being said.


2nd Dumbest post in a while

Hip Hop is about black men from The streets/Hood

Grime is about black men from the endz/bits

[Remarkz]

im not talking about poor white people as hip hop's biggest demographic. im talking about middle-class white people that probably par with 1 black guy. or none at all. a bit like most of the posters on this forum.

Seen.

Buh you cant complain about grime fans, because we need all the fans we can get atm lol.

[Remarkz]

2nd Dumbest post in a while

Hip Hop is about black men from The streets/Hood

Grime is about black men from the endz/bits

Oh really, i didnt notice :laugh:

They can't associate with the culture, the language etc.

[Mazer Rackham]

Seen.

Buh you cant complain about grime fans, because we need all the fans we can get atm lol.

i havet got a problem with the colour of whoever listens to grime, it doesnt matter. im just sayin how it is

[Retrofreak]

Rap is rap, you can either spit or you cant..Grime is localized to the UK.

Americans wont totally understand what your saying, but they will pick up on the flow and rhyme scheme...if they can be bothered to listen.

So talent will win at the end of the day.

[Biggavell.]

Oh really, i didnt notice :laugh:

They can't associate with the culture, the language etc.

Why not ?

Black people here Use slang like african Americans , dress like african americans .With a black british twist .WE embrace there culture because we can pretty much relate to there struggle . as I said before

Hip hop -blacks voicing there opinions
Grime -blacks voicing there opinions

All we need is someone that can break through and no not one of dem 18+ guys either

[Remarkz]

Why not ?

Black people here Use slang like african Americans , dress like african americans .With a black british twist .WE embrace there culture because we can pretty much relate to there struggle . as I said before

Hip hop -blacks voicing there opinions
Grime -blacks voicing there opinions

All we need is someone that can break through and no not one of dem 18+ guys either

Bruv, if some UK artists spat bars for the US hip-hop scene i could guarentee most of them wouldn't get whats being said.

Imagine Tempz going 'ITS NOT A PARRRRRRRRR' for the US hip hop scene. Ain't gunna work bro.

[Biggavell.]

Rap is rap, you can either spit or you cant..Grime is localized to the UK.

Americans wont totally understand what your saying, but they will pick up on the flow and rhyme scheme...if they can be bothered to listen.

So talent will win at the end of the day.


It dont matter fam do you think any one in america understands what bone thugs say ? I doubt even people from CLeavland understand what they say but there Unique and have good flows .So Thats why we need someone who is unique

not dizze either hes swaggggg

[Biggavell.]

Bruv, if some UK artists spat bars for the US hip-hop scene i could guarentee most of them wouldn't get whats being said.

Imagine Tempz going 'ITS NOT A PARRRRRRRRR' for the US hip hop scene. Ain't gunna work bro.

Look at bone thugs and Wu tang both of them brought there OWN slang
Why can't we,

When Cash Money came out ( BG , LIL WAYNE , JUVENILE ,TURK ,BABY MANNIE FRESH ) in the 90s everyone laughed at there accent why?? because MC's from new orleans had no respect because of the unusual accents in the rap game .

Fast forward 15 years and cash money is one of most succesful hip hop record companies of all time and Dont forget they were the first ones to say "bling bling"

[Biggavell.]

No one knew what bling bling was but now its in dictionary because they tried and never gave up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ_BA3IiNjs

[Remarkz]

Look at bone thugs and Wu tang both of them brought there OWN slang
Why can't we,

When Cash Money came out ( BG , LIL WAYNE , JUVENILE ,TURK ,BABY MANNIE FRESH ) in the 90s everyone laughed at there accent why?? because MC's from new orleans had no respect because of the unusual accents in the rap game .

Fast forward 15 years and cash money is one of most succesful hip hop record companies of all time and Dont forget they were the first ones to say "bling bling"

Seen.

But, we can only do that if US man learn to accept UK music. Which aint a problem just in Grime, dunno if it will ever happen tho.

[Biggavell.]

Seen.

But, we can only do that if US man learn to accept UK music. Which aint a problem just in Grime, dunno if it will ever happen tho.


Nah trust me fam we been waiting for the US(Real hip hop fans) to accept us for 22222 LONG we need to try get the white americans attention they will be ANYTHNG

E.g

Soulja boy
Michael Bolton

[Highlander]

Rap is rap, you can either spit or you cant..Grime is localized to the UK.

Americans wont totally understand what your saying, but they will pick up on the flow and rhyme scheme...if they can be bothered to listen.

So talent will win at the end of the day..

[In.sT]

imo grime artist will get a good reception because americans will take interest in their unique style and workrate

[Jammy-Jae]

id like to think grime could go stateside but i doubt it...

[cl13]

I would love grime to be big in the us but i cant see it happening anytime soon.

Id send wretch he might have a chance of doing something in the us he has done some hip-hop in the past.

but the chances are slim maybe kano might have a chance

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

I've said this in every "why/when/how will grime blow in the USA" thread, so it's becoming redundant. But since people keep bringing it up...

What many of you discussing this may or may not remember is that GRIME HAD IT"S CHANCE IN THE USA IN 2004/5! That's right, the release of Run the Road on trendy/white/hipster label and purveyors of cool Vice Records; Dizzee's album available on the shelves of Virgin/Tower records/FYE and other national chains; Kano, ghetts, and Roll Deep playing a FREE SHOW IN THE EAST RIVER BANDSHELL ALONG SIDE JUELZ SANTANA. Wiley even said: "Big up the white t shirt massive" to all the kids from the projects who were crowding the front to see the Dips. They looked at him like he was speaking fucking swahilli!!!

Like, what the fuck more do you need to hear!?

There were grime acts playing at some decent NYC venues, a bit of grime on college radio, and shit, even a brief "grime/dubstep/ghettotech" night!

WHAT HAPPENED?

The so-called fans were mostly white hipsters, so once diplo/mia/TheFader moved on to baltimore club, screw, or whatever the fuckk other regional style they felt like sucking off that week, they FORGOT about grime.

That's it.

Anyone who still likes it likes it because their interest and appreciation is genuine. But we are a small minority, and for the most part--white. And that's as good as it's gonna get folks.

Stop beating a dead horse.

[David]

lol at saying Ghetto would be appreciated in the US. Just, HA!

[Mazer Rackham]

but we are a small minority, and for the most part--white. And that's as good as it's gonna get folks.

Stop beating a dead horse.

orly???

[IZE.E]

Its obvious they will be judged on hip hop terms. Thats why Giggs so accept over there, cuz they cant keep up with our tempo. But i wuld take

Kano
Ghetts
Wiley
Wretch [scorcher trys to hard to be american do they wont think hes different]

This is a good mixture to me cuz it wont show Grime only one sided. with hype and no content.

[JayStarz]

Cash Money IMO only took Jay Sean as a marketable investment opportunity, and now have used his voice and manipulated it (if anyone's heard the LilWayne or Birdman songs....Jay Sean sounds nothing alike), its just a smart business move.

Like three months after Jay Sean got signed, Lil Wayne didn't even know who he was in the interview still lol...major par, live on air lol.

Think Jay Sean's just tryna branch out with them artists tbh, I doubt it'll lead to anything big, even the Jay Sean signing isn't much amazing.

Zee Kay or Vee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay Sean

[Ellessdee]

UKHH is an imitation of US hip hop.

Grime IS the British version of hip hop, obviously not musically but in the sense of what it is.

[luno]

i'm american and i've been a grime fan since the early n.a.s.t.y. years. this thread is making me laugh.

why do you need to come to us to make your scene mainstream?! blow on your own terms, in your own country, and then maybe we'll take notice. acting like we're your older brother that you gotta impress.. why should you give a fuck what we think of your scene, let alone relying on us to make your scene mainstream, when half the posters on this forum think americans are fatasses who eat mcdonalds and hate britain?

this is some fucking madness. besides, why do you want to bring grime to america? you know what's going to happen, don't you? the same thing that happened to hip-hop here. a great scene, alive and well.. big companies get ahold of it, and fifteen years later you have soulja boy taking a shit on the whole scene, t-pain raping hip-hop with an autotune dick, and pharrell acting like a gangster when he's never smelled gunshot residue.

you shouldn't focus on delivering grime into the hands of sony bmg so we can have wiley and soulja boy doing a collabo about the alphabet song or some ridiculous shit. you oughta be focusing on bringing MORE GRIME into the grime scene. big yourself up.

DON'T COME TO US, WE WILL RUIN YOUR GRIME SCENE.

anyway tho someone phone scorcher and ask if hes done with grime and ting, you can ship him over and he'd make it big. (same for wretch)

[Revolution]

i'm american and i've been a grime fan since the early n.a.s.t.y. years. this thread is making me laugh.

why do you need to come to us to make your scene mainstream?! blow on your own terms, in your own country, and then maybe we'll take notice. acting like we're your older brother that you gotta impress.. why should you give a fuck what we think of your scene, let alone relying on us to make your scene mainstream, when half the posters on this forum think americans are fatasses who eat mcdonalds and hate britain?

this is some fucking madness. besides, why do you want to bring grime to america? you know what's going to happen, don't you? the same thing that happened to hip-hop here. a great scene, alive and well.. big companies get ahold of it, and fifteen years later you have soulja boy taking a shit on the whole scene, t-pain raping hip-hop with an autotune dick, and pharrell acting like a gangster when he's never smelled gunshot residue.

you shouldn't focus on delivering grime into the hands of sony bmg so we can have wiley and soulja boy doing a collabo about the alphabet song or some ridiculous shit. you oughta be focusing on bringing MORE GRIME into the grime scene. big yourself up.

DON'T COME TO US, WE WILL RUIN YOUR GRIME SCENE.

anyway tho someone phone scorcher and ask if hes done with grime and ting, you can ship him over and he'd make it big. (same for wretch)

I hear dat still... UK shud concentrate on UK

[Revolution]

Wen Grime becomes so hard, dat u cant ignor it, den da US can cum into da pic... but bcoz dey want grime... not coz we want them to take notice

[Curphey]

I'm sure half the Grime scene wouldn't be allowed in to America.

[cl13]

Wen Grime becomes so hard, dat u cant ignor it, den da US can cum into da pic... but bcoz dey want grime... not coz we want them to take notice

i agree with that we need to worry about gettin grime mainstream in the uk first when america are ready for grime they can have it.

[Revolution]

i agree with that we need to worry about gettin grime mainstream in the uk first when america are ready for grime they can have it.

exactly

[Equilibrium]

i'm american and i've been a grime fan since the early n.a.s.t.y. years. this thread is making me laugh.

why do you need to come to us to make your scene mainstream?! blow on your own terms, in your own country, and then maybe we'll take notice. acting like we're your older brother that you gotta impress.. why should you give a fuck what we think of your scene, let alone relying on us to make your scene mainstream, when half the posters on this forum think americans are fatasses who eat mcdonalds and hate britain?

this is some fucking madness. besides, why do you want to bring grime to america? you know what's going to happen, don't you? the same thing that happened to hip-hop here. a great scene, alive and well.. big companies get ahold of it, and fifteen years later you have soulja boy taking a shit on the whole scene, t-pain raping hip-hop with an autotune dick, and pharrell acting like a gangster when he's never smelled gunshot residue.

you shouldn't focus on delivering grime into the hands of sony bmg so we can have wiley and soulja boy doing a collabo about the alphabet song or some ridiculous shit. you oughta be focusing on bringing MORE GRIME into the grime scene. big yourself up.

DON'T COME TO US, WE WILL RUIN YOUR GRIME SCENE.

anyway tho someone phone scorcher and ask if hes done with grime and ting, you can ship him over and he'd make it big. (same for wretch)

real talk, ive been sayin this for time - if grime blows in america, i hope and pray the shit they put out in america doesnt reach rinse fm and the few other pirates.

however it could force mcs and producers still in the underground to make their music as grimy as possible as a reaction to the mainstream grime

[Tony Starks]

Americans wont totally understand what your saying, but they will pick up on the flow and rhyme scheme...if they can be bothered to listen.

So talent will win at the end of the day.
same way we aint bothered with the grime mcs in the midlands or beyond the M25 they wont care either.
If its not instantly recogniable to them they wont give grime the time of day.
unless it gets a co-sign from someone big over there kinda like how M.I.A and Estelle did from Kanye.

[Shadow]

what luno said.. grime should get big enough to get noticed not the other way.. how did hip hop get adopted here.. they didn't try bring it to us in a dumb way its cos people picked up on it.. etc.

plus all this "make it to the mainstream" business is dumb... all that funding comes from the labels, and all the money goes back to the labels.. so it becomes a thing where if u don't have the money u cant afford to get big.. what ever your music.. u or someone else will fund it.. the harder u go at it and market it.. the more chance people will pick up on it.. if its something that works all the time and gets a following it becomes a scene.. and all follows from there..

but i don't like this under dog mentality from most people about grime.. its a whole diff scene.. going to delve in diff markets is just a personal interest within the money making of things.. but those who don't perceive grime to be big already r just comparing to much.. financially maybe not as big as other markets but in other terms like talent and uniqueness grime's as good as it gets..

money shouldn't be the judge..

[BananaMan]

should concentrate on europe.
Need to get over the infactuation with breaking america tbh.

[T.B]

Ghetto.

his level of content and creativity allows him to progress that far.

[dj complex]

should concentrate on europe.
Need to get over the infactuation with breaking america tbh.

tru talk europe is big enough...swear grime had a lil following in europe a few years ago......

grime has more chance in blowing in japan then in the us

[adidasgrandad]

forget grme for a minute....gatsby would hold it up.

[Arkan]

tru talk europe is big enough...swear grime had a lil following in europe a few years ago......

grime has more chance in blowing in japan then in the us

never thought of that, but yeah your prob right.
Dancehall has a massive following over there, so why couldnt grime.

[kt3]

2bh rappers in us wid piss on uk grime artists in a freestyle for the simple fact that they actually freestyle n make up lyrics on the spot n related to that exact situation, whereas grime freestyle r reciting bars, which hardly requires talent. N the only grime artist who can really freestyle in that sense that I kno is bashy..n he's swag let's b real

[Jack Man Everyday Blatant]

what luno said.. grime should get big enough to get noticed not the other way.. how did hip hop get adopted here.. they didn't try bring it to us in a dumb way its cos people picked up on it.. etc.

plus all this "make it to the mainstream" business is dumb... all that funding comes from the labels, and all the money goes back to the labels.. so it becomes a thing where if u don't have the money u cant afford to get big.. what ever your music.. u or someone else will fund it.. the harder u go at it and market it.. the more chance people will pick up on it.. if its something that works all the time and gets a following it becomes a scene.. and all follows from there..

but i don't like this under dog mentality from most people about grime.. its a whole diff scene.. going to delve in diff markets is just a personal interest within the money making of things.. but those who don't perceive grime to be big already r just comparing to much.. financially maybe not as big as other markets but in other terms like talent and uniqueness grime's as good as it gets..

money shouldn't be the judge..

Get me, i dnt really care as long as i can listen to some good grime mixtapes/albums such as B2DL, Axiom etc.


2bh rappers in us wid piss on uk grime artists in a freestyle for the simple fact that they actually freestyle n make up lyrics on the spot n related to that exact situation, whereas grime freestyle r reciting bars, which hardly requires talent. N the only grime artist who can really freestyle in that sense that I kno is bashy..n he's swag let's b real

Regardless of that fact a hip hop rapper cant freestyle on a grime tune its too fast not enough time to think up bars, get me, on a hip hop beat its nice and slow so you got time.

[smilez16]

they'll look at them as rappers rather than grime mcs and judge them by that standard. Wiley's a sick grime MC but a hip hop fan would laugh at most of his bars.

Therefore only goodz would succeed in my opinion...then i would look at people outside of grime like fix dot

[dj complex]

Originally Posted by Peter Petrelli
they'll look at them as rappers rather than grime mcs and judge them by that standard. Wiley's a sick grime MC but a hip hop fan would laugh at most of his bars.

i dont know about that still most old skool hip hop heads would lol at wileys bars maybe....but the new hip hop shit like solja boy boy wow and flow rider aint got shit on grime artist based on flow and bars......

[S.Dubz]

Jay Sean isn't Grime.

[Nxt Lvl]

I really really think Durrty Goodz would succeed up there, he's better than most of what they've got and always comes with original stuff... thinking about it got me annoyed cos I realised he really SHOULD be up there showing his stuff around and getting some exposure...



Do you own a map?

And i think Tinchy and Bashy could succeed here.

[Joe91]

never thought of that, but yeah your prob right.
Dancehall has a massive following over there, so why couldnt grime.

funny people are sayin that, was thinking of buyin www.grime.jp seein as im moving out there in the summer. could be a fun project.

[K I Double D]

Ghetto, Bashy or P Money.

[RedRum09]

As probably everyone here knows, Jay Sean is now signed to Lil Wayne's label; Cash Money Records. For his first US single, Down (Featuring Lil Wayne) he's flown over a couple Mc's (Chipmunk, Tinie Tempah & Ghetto) to feature as cameos. This got me thinking.. who do you think would be the biggest success in the US of A?

I really really think Durrty Goodz would succeed up there, he's better than most of what they've got and always comes with original stuff... thinking about it got me annoyed cos I realised he really SHOULD be up there showing his stuff around and getting some exposure...

Anyone agree? If you could take 1 MC to USA to showcase the UKs talent and maybe get a deal, who would you take with you?

safest bet wud be wiley enit. but theres bare sick mcs. vener remah is a DAAAN.

but imo america gettin hold ov grime cud be the worst thing that cud eva happen 2 the grime scene. it wud fuck it up fully. every mc wud change there style. can yu imagine. raaa. its gettin emotional. cah dat wud be da end of grime.