if .....JME

[EllaDecember]

if JME clashed Ghetto do you think he would improve and up his levels...cause i've heard bare people say JME's gone downhill but if he clashed Ghetto he would be back on top?


DISCUSS

and who would win?

[Eric Cantona]

JME would kill Ghetto in a clash

[R.dot.Tubbs]

lol@jme ever being involved in a clash

[DaBlackAlbino]

lol@jme ever being involved in a clash

:laugh: the only thing JME is clashing is the boy better know stalkers obsessed with his ONE LINERS..... SHUUUUUUUHHHTTT YAAA MUHHHHTTTT!!!!

[EllaDecember]

lol@jme ever being involved in a clash
yeah that's why it says "if...." and yeah jme could kill ghetto in clash, ghetto would get too hype.

[Breathe Beats]

jme is pop-grime

ghetts would end him

[RIP Jakey]

JME's gotta go a long way to be on par with Ghetto, Wiley and them lot. Atm he isn't a top mc, i do like him i'm hoping his Album puts him back up there.

[EllaDecember]

but if JME clashed ghetto, (cause ghettz is sending for dem man innit) it would prove that JME is as "serious" as he says but it might not make him as commerical as he wants to be.

[MedellinManDem]

JME would kill Ghetto in a clash

This guy's irony is terrible.

[Jack Aggy]

I Personally Think JME could Merk Ghetto in a clash. You gotta remember that a clash is about dissing the other person, and JME would win there.

Ghetto may have the best content in the whole of the Scene but it didnt stop Skepta duppying him.

[MedellinManDem]

JME would end up getting bullied...

[EllaDecember]

i do have a feeling all of jme's disses would just be from 96 barz of revenge and talking about Skepta, jme is nowhere near Skepta's level of clashing and war dubs (JME ain't even made one lol).

[Eric Cantona]

This guy's irony is terrible.


loooooooooooooooooool, ok, lets have it


Have you seen Ghetto's clashing record, from what i recall he has lost pretty much every clash he has been in, Most recent was Skepta on radio, he had him, reason he had it was Skepta spat bars that are war bars, big bars as well that, Ghetto lost his head and started spitting stupid long 64 bars that got boring, Weigh it up and JME & Skepta are same kinda MC's, both have big bars that are effect in a clash and Ghetto's skippy flow spitting 64 bars people cant understand dont work in a clash, i could just see JME using some good witty bars in this clash that would murk it. This is why i think JME would beat Ghetto in a clash. I could write more reasons as well.

[EllaDecember]

THREAD STARTER
;lol its true ghetto does lose every clash.... wait what clash has Ghetto won?

[Breathe Beats]

jme isn't a clashing MC tho

personally i think if he went straight greeze then he would stand a chance, but if he started going on about how his tee is better than ghettos... then boy he would get torn apart

[Prometheus.]

JME, together with Skepta would have a shot at it if it's dubs we're talking..
Live clash - I think JME would put up some good resistance, but Ghetto woulda just hype and dun.


Alt. JME has some really really clever bars that make Ghetts look like a wasteman if he comes with all the shank/gun-talk.

[whats_the_score?]

JME would do a good war dub, he's got brains and could make any MC look like a total mug.

[EllaDecember]

what's so clever about JME...sorry i don't know why everyone says he's so smart...he used to be smart but now...

['nuum general]

THREAD STARTER
;lol its true ghetto does lose every clash.... wait what clash has Ghetto won?

jammer

[EllaDecember]

i would like ghetto to win, cause he's an east london man...i think it would be an even clash. the skepta ghetto clash was unfair man, you couldn't hear anything ghettz was saying.

[whats_the_score?]

what's so clever about JME...sorry i don't know why everyone says he's so smart...he used to be smart but now...

I just see him doing somthing abit different than the usual, your a battyman, I'm a skengman etc kinda thing on a dub.

[Omni]

Lol at the geeza calling JME pop-grime. His mixtapes are some of the grimiest to be released. And JME would probably write some decent bars that would hit hard so it would be interesting.

[Prometheus.]

I just see him doing somthing abit different than the usual, your a battyman, I'm a skengman etc kinda thing.

yeah.
the man has some wordplay too, and does grime with a sense of humor, not just gangster this gangster that.

everybody thinks to MC tuff>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Breathe Beats]

Lol at the geeza calling JME pop-grime. His mixtapes are some of the grimiest to be released. And JME would probably write some decent bars that would hit hard so it would be interesting.

yeah jme used to be straight gully

but he isn't grime to me anymore

sounds more like an old school garage mc with his recent bars

[Eric Cantona]

yeah jme used to be straight gully

but he isn't grime to me anymore

sounds more like an old school garage mc with his recent bars


lol at not grime

and the movement are grime are they?

[EllaDecember]

i think we all put JME on some kind of pedastol and he's fallen off. He was supposed to be the smart guy of grime... i doubt the t-shirts make that much p..(i dont get why people buy em) and if he's that smart why would he lose his driving licence in less than 5 months.... ghettos bars >>>>>>> jme's brain!
YA DUN KNOW!

[Breathe Beats]

lol at not grime

and the movement are grime are they?

ghetto can do a track at 100bpm

and it would still be more grime than jme chatting about 333

[Eric Cantona]

ghetto can do a track at 100bpm

and it would still be more grime than jme chatting about 333

JME can make a mixtape with summer holiday tunes and it will be more grimey then The Movement discography

[whats_the_score?]

i think we all put JME on some kind of pedastol and he's fallen off. He was supposed to be the smart guy of grime... i doubt the t-shirts make that much p..(i dont get why people buy em) and if he's that smart why would he lose his driving licence in less than 5 months.... ghettos bars >>>>>>> jme's brain!
YA DUN KNOW!

c'mon, it costs him £3 to make those tee's and he's selling them for £20 he's got plenty of 'p' off them I'm sure.

[Breathe Beats]

JME can make a mixtape with summer holiday tunes and it will be more grimey then The Movement discography

shutup sunjay

[Eric Cantona]

Im going to say my peace, To say JME aint grime no more is so fucking stupid, even though he did a swag tune called 1-2-3 it was still on a sick grime beat made by Wiley, He made 3 of the best grime mixtapes around, He is one of the best grime producers in the scene also. silly saying what you said.

[EllaDecember]

i don't think he's getting that much p off of it, the people that wear it are emos and stuff , i'm never gonna see no man walking down green gate or CT in boy better tee. i've seen some that cost £25 its too expensive. i don't even know who JME's target audience are.

[I Can See You]

Ghetts would rip JME apart in a clash

[EllaDecember]

mountain>>>>>>> jme's album snippets

[Breathe Beats]

Im going to say my peace, To say JME aint grime no more is so fucking stupid, even though he did a swag tune called 1-2-3 it was still on a sick grime beat made by Wiley, He made 3 of the best grime mixtapes around, He is one of the best grime producers in the scene also. silly saying what you said.

he has changed the way he sounds sooooo much to appeal to other people

he's fell off

[EllaDecember]

jme's not on grime cause he's passionate about the scene, he's just on it to make money that's why he's appealing to all those emos, flogging them t-shirts, and who knows pencil cases. Even when he's on radio he just talks and reads off a piece of paper, i hope he doesn't affect skepta...

[R-Style]

jme can always spit his old bars

alrite rudeboi calm down, actin like u bin smokin brown. got a tigre, ur not raw, i'll put airvents in ur car door!

cos u got ur name on ur nike air dunks, blud.. BEAT U UP!

and such

[EllaDecember]

mcs need to stop recycling.... and if jme repeats old bars..ghetts will just finish them off...[so ghetto wins the clash]?!

[R-Style]

mcs need to stop recycling.... and if jme repeats old bars..ghetts will just finish them off...[so ghetto wins the clash]?!

and wen ghets clashed skepta what percent of his bars were recycled...90%?

[EllaDecember]

lol 90% more like fifty and that's good for grime mcs and skepta was about 90% (but skepta is one of my fave mcs he's my top 5 selected) and i was talking about if jme would clash ghetto... and jme recycles more bars than skepta.
YA DUN KNOW!

[Breathe Beats]

well after that set on kiss

i can safely say jme would not win if they clashed

:)

[Jae Dave]

im a fan of the movement and boy better know but if it came to a clash, jme would get duppy'd!

[samur41]

i do have a feeling all of jme's disses would just be from 96 barz of revenge and talking about Skepta, jme is nowhere near Skepta's level of clashing and war dubs (JME ain't even made one lol).

no offence and im not jus stickin up for JME but how can u say he ent on a level when he hasnt done anything to judge by

[Tony Starks]

JME would try an clash ghetts by being the polar opposite..
e.g
Ghetts
"you na wa see me when its
midnight
ill flick my flicknife
shank him six times....

JME
"you think grime is all about battling
youll be 40 no job panickin...
wasteman pack it in.

If ghetts controls himself and delivers his bars right no one except for wiley can beat him imo.

[The Messiah]

what's so clever about JME...sorry i don't know why everyone says he's so smart...he used to be smart but now...

Used to be smart?! Like they say in football, form is temporary, class is permanent. Same with intelligence. The fact that
a) He's still at the forefront of most grimeheads minds when they think of the scene.
b) People who aren't into grime have heard of him but not Ghetto

that suggests to me that he is doing something right.


i think we all put JME on some kind of pedastol and he's fallen off. He was supposed to be the smart guy of grime... i doubt the t-shirts make that much p..(i dont get why people buy em) and if he's that smart why would he lose his driving licence in less than 5 months.... ghettos bars >>>>>>> jme's brain!
YA DUN KNOW!

Getting 6 points in 5 months makes you dumb? I've just passed my test, and I can see how easy it is, all it takes is for you to get caught on your phone once and speed. It's not a lot. There's a difference between common sense and intelligence which you seem to have mixed up.

Btw, the T-shirts are making him P. It wouldn't cost more than £7/8 pounds to get those T-shirts made. If you want be you give you links to shirt making companies, to prove the point, I will. We all know the price at which he's selling. Big profit margin. The type of people buying are the richer Grime fans from Chingford/Loughton etc. and the midlands. A lot of my Brummie friends have BBK Tees.

Back onto the proper topic of this thread, it all depends on the JME that turns up. If the "popstar JME" turns up, talking about his T-shirts and whatever. Ghetto, should finish him. If a "96-bars of revenge JME" turns up, then we're in for some entertainment. JME does need to clash/beef someone otherwise he'll be labelled for the rest of his career.

I'm a fan of JME. His new album needs to go back to where he was when he released the Poomplex mixtape (by far his best). I hope it does.

[General Savimbi]

JME will never improve.

He's what he's.

[Alias?]

Not reading this whole waste thread but if you think JME would touch ghetts in a clash you are lost.

[Thisisme]

People would be very stupid to under estimate Jme in a clash. I think he would beat Ghetto with pure wit..somwthing that Ghetto does not have....anyone that thinks Ghetto has intelligent bars should seek educational assistance without haste!!!

[Quality Control]

People would be very stupid to under estimate Jme in a clash. I think he would beat Ghetto with pure wit..somwthing that Ghetto does not have....anyone that thinks Ghetto has intelligent bars should seek educational assistance without haste!!!

..without haste?..

[Anonymous]

..without haste?..

LOLOLOLOL thats what i thought.

[RISKY!]

jme is pop-grime

ghetts would end him

.

[SPOOKY DJ]

If ghetts controls himself and delivers his bars right no one except for wiley can beat him imo.

yh quality and control thats wot its all about

[Quite a character]

People would be very stupid to under estimate Jme in a clash. I think he would beat Ghetto with pure wit..somwthing that Ghetto does not have....anyone that thinks Ghetto has intelligent bars should seek educational assistance without DELAY!!!

lol

[Quality Control]

yh quality control thats wot its all about

..:yes:..

[SPOOKY DJ]

..:yes:..

how did i kno u wos gonna remix da post lol :itsalotsign:

[MedellinManDem]

JME is swag. Don't ever put him and Ghetts in the same sentence.

[HypeKidd]

Lol at even considering JME getting close to a hard to decide clash. Ghetts would win all day.

[EllaDecember]

you know...they should just clash.. and then we'll see who is right or wrong?
but i agree with the man that siad theres "pop star" and "96 barz" Jme like there's "HYPED.. can't understand what he's saying" Ghetto and there's sick flow and wit ghetto.

[Nine Bar]

Not reading this whole waste thread but if you think JME would touch ghetts in a clash you are lost.

.

[G.K.]

Jme of two years ago would have ended ghetto.. Today's Jme tho I'm no so sure.

[Thisisme]

apologies....at work typing extremely fast so errors will occur looooooool..................anyway fuck it jme would beat him and I aint a fan of Jme at all!!!!!!

[The Messiah]

Lol at even considering JME getting close to a hard to decide clash. Ghetts would win all day.

Because some us appreciate that there is more than one way to win a clash...

[Eric Cantona]

Just becasue Ghetto is there favorite MC they think he was an automatic win.

We are talking about a clash here people, not tune for tune, a clash.

JME as an MC is more suited to the clashing style, you must see that.

[EllaDecember]

Just becasue Ghetto is there favorite MC they think he was an automatic win.

We are talking about a clash here people, not tune for tune, a clash.

JME as an MC is more suited to the clashing style, you must see that.

What do you mean more suitable...like he's more calm or what?.. not criticisng just asking.

[Crawla III.]

JME would kill Ghetto in a clash
:stunned::stunned:

[Demos]

Just becasue Ghetto is there favorite MC they think he was an automatic win.

We are talking about a clash here people, not tune for tune, a clash.

JME as an MC is more suited to the clashing style, you must see that.

i actually agree

[Eric Cantona]

What do you mean more suitable...like he's more calm or what?.. not criticisng just asking.

Like Ghetto would go crazy etc in a clash doing what he does and jme could drop a big bar like "Rudeboi calm down, stop acting like you been smoking brown" To me thats how i see a clash between these 2 happening and i see JME doing it big, maybe my vision is blurred though becasue im apprantly a BBK bredder.

[EllaDecember]

ah seen.... i don't think you're a bbk bredder...i mean yu've got mountain as your signature. i do kind of agree and its easier to hear JME....

[Top Lad]

Jme's punch lines will dead ghetto. It would depend whether he has sum fresh ones on he uses his old ones to see who would win imo.I like both of them but clashing is different to jus making songs and until u heard JME clashing your an ediot for thinking ghetto can EASILY kill him.

[EllaDecember]

AND TRU SAY...theres a lot of Ghetto bredders...:P

[Breathe Beats]

id like to see JME vs DEVLIN

id pay to see that clash

[Nine Bar]

id pay 2 c devlin dun ne1

ghetts said devz gave him da best "mess around" clash so if ghetts wud dun jme devz wud jus blow him away, alie

[EllaDecember]

LOOOOOOOOOL JME WOULD KILL DEVLIN...(yeah i said it!) but that's a different thread.

[Eric Cantona]

id pay 2 c devlin dun ne1

ghetts said devz gave him da best "mess around" clash so if ghetts wud dun jme devz wud jus blow him away, alie

Tru dat blad.

[Breathe Beats]

LOOOOOOOOOL JME WOULD KILL DEVLIN...(yeah i said it!) but that's a different thread.

:O

start the thread with a poll

i double double dare ya

[SPOOKY DJ]

i would have brought up da clash between wiley and ghetto at dirty canvas.....dunno if its suitable for this topic tho

[EllaDecember]

OKAY I'LL PUT A POLL; one that says who would win a clash JME OR DEVLIN? or should i go back to ghettz??? *still laughing "Devlin would merk JME in a clash" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Breathe Beats]

OKAY I'LL PUT A POLL; one that says who would win a clash JME OR DEVLIN? or should i go back to ghettz??? *still laughing "Devlin would merk JME in a clash" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

i really dont wanna have ago coz it is ur opinion and all

but on a real devlin would destroy most MCs

start the poll

safe

[Quality Control]

Jme's punch lines will dead ghetto. It would depend whether he has sum fresh ones on he uses his old ones to see who would win imo.I like both of them but clashing is different to jus making songs and until u heard JME clashing your an ediot for thinking ghetto can EASILY kill him.

..Ghetto's punchlines >> JME's when you can actually understand them..
"man put money on my head, now i'm ready to bust like there's a honey on my bed"

..JME would be good in a clash cos he's charismatic and witty which goes a long way, but i'd still say Ghetts would win especially if he'd prepared bare bars for JME..

[BananaMan]

Ghetto is good, but his style isnt really suited for clashing.

[Nine Bar]

Ghetto is good, but his style isnt really suited for clashing.

u been on dem rocks again

[phen]

Ghetto is good, but his style isnt really suited for clashing.

exactly

everytime theres one of these ghetto clashing threads loads of you suddenly seem to forget all of ghettos previous clashes and how badly he's done in them.

[BananaMan]

u been on dem rocks again

Not even. Ghetto is my favorite artist out of the scene right now, but I can admit I would rather hear him sending on dubs, than a stage show clash. Freedom of Speech (Buss 1 Ft Devlin and Threats Ft Griminal And Brutal) showed he can translate anger on the mic better, and more effectively on tracks, than live.

[Jack Aggy]

I had no respect for JME until his last westwood show, b/c i was on a long train journey and the rip was all i had to listen too.
From then on i gained a lot more respect for him. He came accross witty, intelligent didnt take himself too seriously and his bars made me laugh a lot (in a positive way). Ghetto, may have a million times more in terms of content than JME. But a Clash is about really ridiculing the other person, JME woudl win.

Also, its hard to not lose respect for Ghetto, when he behaves in the way he does, sometimes his selfconfidence comes accross as arrogance and makes him seem a wanker. Though musically hes probably one of my favourite artists, the clash with skepta and a couple other things make him seem like a bit of a donut.

Something i cant really say about JME or Skepta.

[SCP]

Ghetto is good, but his style isnt really suited for clashing.

nah he just needs to allow the overly-hype, can't-understand-wot-he's-saying biz.

but iv always wanted to hear JME clash - despite all of his reasons 4 not doing so.last september on kiss/1-2-3 aside, his mixtapes/beats r gud nd im looking 4ward to the album.
'why not become full time producers?/tell JME stick to computers/dem man there can't swing with the Movement' - how can any MC not react 2 that when Ghetto has said it several times?

[Xtra P]

People need to be learn objective, it clear that Ghetts is lirically superior to JME ie punchlines and flow but this does not mean he would win a clash, I can imagine how a stage clash would unfold... Ghetts spittin a hype bar havin a fit then JME calmly sayin.. "Alright rudebwoy allow the hype" the crowd would go nutz.. people are forgettin the Napper clash, its not just about who a better MC, its all about timing & knowin what bars to spit at what time. JME would have the crowd on his side after the first round of clashing.

[Grimes]

lirically yeah

[Mc Shakespear]

if an emcee dont clash, then boii

i got no issues with him, but if sumone send for him then jme needs to reply

u get me ,, ghetto will reply to any mans on the spot no long , that shows levels ....

it shows that he is an artist no just any guy. so for me ghetts is my fav he shows that

this is grime not dance music

get me

www.myspace.com/mcshakespear

[BananaMan]

On dubs, ghetto should be able to destroy JME,
But on the stageshow, sadly, its a whole different story.

[Retrofreak]

I had no respect for JME until his last westwood show, b/c i was on a long train journey and the rip was all i had to listen too.
From then on i gained a lot more respect for him. He came accross witty, intelligent didnt take himself too seriously and his bars made me laugh a lot (in a positive way). Ghetto, may have a million times more in terms of content than JME. But a Clash is about really ridiculing the other person, JME woudl win.

Also, its hard to not lose respect for Ghetto, when he behaves in the way he does, sometimes his selfconfidence comes accross as arrogance and makes him seem a wanker. Though musically hes probably one of my favourite artists, the clash with skepta and a couple other things make him seem like a bit of a donut.

Something i cant really say about JME or Skepta.

^^^^ I agree with everything your saying but,

Skepta's even more arrogant than Ghetts is, so to me his an even bigger donut imo.

[Ohhhkay]

JME wud probly done him Mainly because da clearness of his verses n he's funny