Grime Vs Road Rap Beef???

[THOR!]

Leader of PDC makes comments against Grime.


What do you think of the Grime scene?

I don’t like grime music I think it’s a load of shit, most of the mcs are fake and talk a lot of rubbish, it’s all about Street Musik UK rap.

Source (http://oneawaymusic.com/?p=138)

[CrisCito]

Its true.

Most of the mcs are fake and talk aload of shit....didnt you know??

[out there]

and i agree

[Burden Durden]

i agree

but musically the grime scene is better

[Carter]

Totally parred a whole genre..............his new cd aint that bad tbh and it has one track with Elmz on it, so I guess he aint talking about RSG's lol

[JayStarz]

Pdc>>>>>>>>>

[Jay]

On a side note that Funky podcast is pretty decent!

[Phader]

grime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[dappa]

i agree with dat.. most of them dont make sense....

[spliffy]

Who gives a fuck if the mcs are 'real' or not, you think the Beatles actually spent their time on a Yellow Submarine?

[Retrofreak]

Who gives a fuck if the mcs are 'real' or not, you think the Beatles actually spent their time on a Yellow Submarine?

With them amount of drugs.......yeah!!

[JACK]

http://oneawaymusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/jajaone-200x300.jpg


You featured on Bashy’s Black Boys remix, who else would you like to work with?

I’ll work with any artists as long as they’re unique.

if the picture wasnt enough to not take man seriously

[Carter]

There has always been tension with these guys and grime! Should just lyrically swing it out

Jaja Soze VS Wiley
Tempman VS Tempz

LOL



On a side note that Funky podcast is pretty decent!

Not really my thing but I gave the first half a listen

[Retrofreak]

Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

Lucy Sky Diamonds lol

[Grimes]

what funky podcast

i'll post my thoughts on this issues sometime later.

[Pred]

Even now, Grime's energy makes it so much better than UK Street Rap.

[Grimes]

theres a whole lot of differences between the beatles and grime please, avoid them stupid comparisons.

[Carter]

Even now, Grime's energy makes it so much better than UK Street Rap.

Always has been better and always will be imo

[Pred]

Always has been better and always will be imo

Of course, but I mean even though Grime has taken a turn towards Hip Hop, it's still much more energetic.

[Jay]

what funky podcast

i'll post my thoughts on this issues sometime later.

http://oneawaymusic.com/?p=149

[Carter]

Of course, but I mean even though Grime has taken a turn towards Hip Hop, it's still much more energetic.

Yeah I mean when its not bait stuff like Thunder Power its much better

[Shanger]

grime >>>>>>> pdc

d double >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pdc

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Who gives a fuck if the mcs are 'real' or not, you think the Beatles actually spent their time on a Yellow Submarine?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Carter]

Someone should reply really lol

Its not like Grime mcs are soft guys lol

[Eagle]

road rap is shit

[s1L3nT_Po1soN]

There has always been tension with these guys and grime! Should just lyrically swing it out

Jaja Soze VS Wiley
Tempman VS Tempz

LOL




Not really my thing but I gave the first half a listen

wud be jokes..

[Danny Trejo]

Jaja's offkey accent puts me off any music he makes. Raised in Birmingham I think?

[Danny Trejo]

road rap is shit

Nah.

[RIP Jakey]

Street rap can be as 'real' as it wants doesn't make it anyless boring. If Logan was spitting the greaziest bars I wouldn't give a fuck as long as he flowed well with the beat and got me hype.

Who honestly cares if an MC's real or not? I'm listening to music not looking to hire a hit man.

[Retrofreak]

Ghetts,Goodz,P-money,Dot Rotten>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giggs

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Street rap can be as 'real' as it wants doesn't make it anyless boring. If Logan was spitting the greaziest bars I wouldn't give a fuck as long as he flowed well with the beat and got me hype.

Who honestly cares if an MC's real or not? I'm listening to music not looking to hire a hit man.

Yh thats actually true

but lying in your lyrics and not backing it up is not the one

[RIP Jakey]

Ghetts,Goodz,P-money,Dot Rotten>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giggs

c/s and could add every big name in grime to that list.

[Shanger]

c/s and could add every big name in grime to that list.

dun kno. ^



pdc are shit anyway. not jus sayin tht. i was interested in hearin their stuff cos of the rep they had, and i was dissapointed to the max.

[Pred]

Yh thats actually true

but lying in your lyrics and not backing it up is not the one

I don't remember the Krays making music about their exploits.

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

I don't remember the Krays making music about their exploits.

has nothing to do with that>? thats just off topic

[Carter]

Yh thats actually true

but lying in your lyrics and not backing it up is not the one

PDC can say this shit though because they have a history for doing stupid shit on the road but so do some grime guys but then you have guys like Roll Deep making Trident songs and talking greaze on Rinse

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

PDC can say this shit though because they have a history for doing stupid shit on the road but so do some grime guys but then you have guys like Roll Deep making Trident songs and talking greaze on Rinse

yh thats what im saying..

[Quality Control]

if grime mc's were smart they could absorb some of that road rap buzz that's going on right now off the back of a beef

[Shanger]

if grime mc's were smart they could absorb some of that road rap buzz that's going on right now off the back of a beef

what

[Quality Control]

what

regain some street support

[Retrofreak]

if grime mc's were smart they could absorb some of that road rap buzz that's going on right now off the back of a beef

...

[Shanger]

there seems to be a lack of greaze in grime lately. i blame wretch and chipmunk. and funky.

[Carter]

if grime mc's were smart they could absorb some of that road rap buzz that's going on right now off the back of a beef

Yeah but as long as they dont do the slow rap flow.............hate that shit

[Carter]

regain some street support

They are losing it, I blame Chipmunk and Tinchy Stryder!! We need more Crazy Titch types guys lol

[JACK]

They are losing it, I blame Chipmunk and Tinchy Stryder!! We need more Crazy Titch types guys lol

nah amount of them is still nearly similar, its just the smaller scale of their significancy in London urban music and its street hype. it aint coming back

saying that, i do want some topa top sending, be it inter-genre'ish like that lol

[Carter]

nah amount of them is still nearly similar, its just the smaller scale of their significancy in London urban music and its street hype. it aint coming back

saying that, i do want some topa top sending, be it inter-genre'ish like that lol

Lots of guys would be scared to do it tbh but I hope someone steps up on that comment

[Shanger]

i hope tempz calls pdc a bunch of silly pussies.

tempz with bottle >>>>>> pdc strapped

[madness]

I rate road rap more.

But certain MC's from grime i rate more than all road rappers that i know of.

But certain road rappers can make good songs dont get it twisted

b3EIQQJkfhQ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most grime.

[ALM]

road rap won't last

[jeystone]

do you think this road rap scene has emerged because uk hip-hop is more credible now? as in the americans dont see us as tea drinkin toffs and have realised that london is just as gritty as los angeles

[Retrofreak]

do you think this road rap scene has emerged because uk hip-hop is more credible now? as in the americans dont see us as tea drinkin toffs and have realised that london is just as gritty as los angeles

It's always been there....Goons don't sing, so they spit...simple.

[Quality Control]

road rap won't last

like grime didn't lol

[ALM]

like grime didn't lol

Grime will always exist in some form, road rap will be nothing in 5 years.

Also road rap doesn't have the hype grime had when it first broke, people have short memories.

[Quality Control]

Grime will always exist in some form, road rap will be nothing in 5 years.

Also road rap doesn't have the hype grime had when it first broke, people have short memories.

ehh... road rap is just hip-hop (the latest fad subgenre)

and hip-hop certainly ain't going anywhere

i'm pretty sure in 5 years time the music of london's kids will resemble road rap closer than it does grime

[Retrofreak]

Grime will always exist in some form, road rap will be nothing in 5 years.

Also road rap doesn't have the hype grime had when it first broke, people have short memories.

Road Rap = Gangster Rap.

As long as mans are shoting it will be around.

Gangster Rap's been around for over 15yrs lol

[Quality Control]

Road Rap = Gangster Rap.

As long as mans are shoting it will be around.

Gangster Rap's been around for over 15yrs lol

agreeing with you feels weird lol

[ALM]

Road Rap = Gangster Rap.

As long as mans are shoting it will be around.

Gangster Rap's been around for over 15yrs lol

its never had a serious presence as a 'scene' till now fam.

[Pred]

i'm pretty sure in 5 years time the music of london's kids will resemble road rap closer than it does grime

Music changes so much, who knows what'll happen in 5 years.

And yeah, road rap is another way of saying street hip hop.

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

rap is rap

[Retrofreak]

its never had a serious presence as a 'scene' till now fam.

???
and Grime?

[ALM]

???
and Grime?

Grime had a 'scene' regular raves, radio shows etc.

That seems to be evaporating though still.

[THOR!]

Skepta is blatantly tempted by 'Road Rap'.

[Retrofreak]

Grime had a 'scene' regular raves, radio shows etc.

That seems to be evaporating though still.

I hear you, but mans were spitting road talk, before Grime and will go on to do the same after.

"Rap is Rap" as some one earlier posted.

Some people, simply cant get down with Grime as they think it's too fast and find Giggs easier to catch.

The joke is as much as I'm not a fan of that scene per-say, I can see that they don't bicker over what their sound is or isn't, they just make the shit and get on with it.

[BAM BAM]

thers grime m.cs in da scene
dat rap
dat spit way better den dese ROAD side Rappers.lol
no talent just bear violence der talking

fair enogh dey der real and dat
but whats being real without talent

[wud]

lol "road rap"? basically people from the UK trying to look and sound american

grime is the UK's own thing and hes busy saying its shit?

smh

[MoneyMan]

^^^^ this

[Grimes]

lol "road rap"? basically people from the UK trying to look and sound american

grime is the UK's own thing and hes busy saying its shit?

smh

smh.

uk road rap is alot

i appreaciate all dem road rap guys for their ability to do rap without making me cringe.

[unkle]

He's open to work with an act that originated from grime and still reps it....I don't think he means the established artists....if you asked him to explain i'm sure he would have not put it that way.......I'm not going to go into detail..

some of the comments...smh..

[Dreamer]

road rap to me is boring i can listen to it but not for too long, the majority that do rap in the uk just talk about guns, knifes etc..like really i don't care init i don't mind hearing it everyonce in a while but come on be serious

Grime now fair enough some mc's talk all tough etc.. weather there fake or not i don't even care i jus enjoy the music and the energy grime delivers is something different and not every tune i hear from a grime artist has violent bars so i prefer grime

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

stop with road rap - rap is rap

[RIP Jakey]

Skepta is blatantly tempted by 'Road Rap'.

Skepta's a whore, he'll jump on anything that he thinks will earn him money.

Didn't he start with Hip Hop before grime?

[Gizzle]

No one cares about UK rappers except giggs tbh

[RIP Jakey]

No-one making music about what they do is a big time criminal anyway, they're all sitting around counting their dough while evreyone else does the hard work.

[Retrofreak]

stop with road rap - rap is rap

.

[traydeuce]

No one cares about UK rappers except giggs tbh

.

[out there]

road rap>>>>>>>grime .. my opinion

only cah grime just aint as good as it was.. if u wlda asked me last year or couple months ago i would of sed the opposite

[Danny Trejo]

In terms of recent releases, there's more good rap coming out of London than there is grime.

[R-Style]

Yh thats actually true

but lying in your lyrics and not backing it up is not the one

do you wheel back d double? do you really think hes that guy?

[critic of musical arts]

I'm feeling the UK rap at the moment but some of these guys in that scene are shit. Another bandwagon alot of people are jumping since the gigs got big.

Gigs >>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Pub Guy]

The idea that "road" rap is in any way new is laughable. A lot of these guys, PDC, SMS, Northstar, SN1 etc have been shifting CD's in the ends for TIME. I'm not a road guy but you'd have to be seriously out of touch (like not getting on a bus, or hearing what people are playing in their cars) to not know that there has been quite an established "road" rap scene in London for ages. It's not a flash in the pan thing. It's got a lot of profile recently but it's been bubbling under the surface since 05 at least. The standards have risen a lot in the last year or two though.

A lot of the younger people who are into "urban" stuff have no idea what the difference is anyway, they will be listening to N-Dubz one minute, Giggs the next and Tinchy after that, and to them they are all the same.

Never rated Jaja Soze as a spitter though.

[Carter]

The idea that "road" rap is in any way new is laughable. A lot of these guys, PDC, SMS, Northstar, SN1 etc have been shifting CD's in the ends for TIME. I'm not a road guy but you'd have to be seriously out of touch (like not getting on a bus, or hearing what people are playing in their cars) to not know that there has been quite an established "road" rap scene in London for ages. It's not a flash in the pan thing. It's got a lot of profile recently but it's been bubbling under the surface since 05 at least. The standards have risen a lot in the last year or two though.

A lot of the younger people who are into "urban" stuff have no idea what the difference is anyway, they will be listening to N-Dubz one minute, Giggs the next and Tinchy after that, and to them they are all the same.

Never rated Jaja Soze as a spitter though.

Same here but his album has its moments

[ALM]

The idea that "road" rap is in any way new is laughable. A lot of these guys, PDC, SMS, Northstar, SN1 etc have been shifting CD's in the ends for TIME. I'm not a road guy but you'd have to be seriously out of touch (like not getting on a bus, or hearing what people are playing in their cars) to not know that there has been quite an established "road" rap scene in London for ages. It's not a flash in the pan thing. It's got a lot of profile recently but it's been bubbling under the surface since 05 at least. The standards have risen a lot in the last year or two though.

A lot of the younger people who are into "urban" stuff have no idea what the difference is anyway, they will be listening to N-Dubz one minute, Giggs the next and Tinchy after that, and to them they are all the same.

Never rated Jaja Soze as a spitter though.

Recently though road rap has blown up outside those ends with a road rap pedigree.

Giggs has taken the sound to a new audience.

[THOR!]

I want to do road rap but I just... I just haven't killed someone in so long.

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

I want to do road rap but I just... I just haven't killed someone in so long.

oh shit forums been jokes 2day

[Retrofreak]

lol at this thread, gangster raps always been popular.

Wtf is "Road Rap" anyway? lol

[madness]

lol at this thread, gangster raps always been popular.

Wtf is "Road Rap" anyway? lol

Exact same thing as gangster rap lol.

[nesta17]

http://www.aef.com/images/museum/clio_2005/Print%20Student/Bronze%20-%20Arai/Bronze%20-%20Arai%20Helmet%20-%20%27%27Bubble%20Wrap%20Road%27%27%20-%20Academy%20of%20Art%20University%20San%20Francis co%20(Student).jpg

[jeystone]

i want to do road rap but i just... I just haven't killed someone in so long.

lmao.

[Jay05]

road rap won't last

road rap will outlive grime

UK has been doing hard hip-hop for years and it will continue to.

[Booga]

http://www.aef.com/images/museum/clio_2005/Print%20Student/Bronze%20-%20Arai/Bronze%20-%20Arai%20Helmet%20-%20%27%27Bubble%20Wrap%20Road%27%27%20-%20Academy%20of%20Art%20University%20San%20Francis co%20(Student).jpg

that made me lol irl

[Carter]

He did alot on this track and DVS...........well lol

STsVYUs2kuo

[zoot crack]

road rap just pretty much some rebore english mobb deep

grime's original


grime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


some thing needs to save it

[Tottybrer]

http://www.aef.com/images/museum/clio_2005/Print%20Student/Bronze%20-%20Arai/Bronze%20-%20Arai%20Helmet%20-%20%27%27Bubble%20Wrap%20Road%27%27%20-%20Academy%20of%20Art%20University%20San%20Francis co%20(Student).jpg

?

[Phil]

i'll always love grime, grew up with it and shit and 03-06 grime will never be topped for me, but these days road rap>>>>>>>

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

road rap just pretty much some rebore english mobb deep

Nothing personal, but fam, the last thing UK roadrap is is some rebore english Mobb Deep.

For two reasons: firstly, the styles these guys take their cues from have almost nothing to do with early to mid 1990's east coast rap, and everything to do with more recent NYC swagger rap, D block, and--sonically speaking--dirty south production stee.

Secondly: I'm a fan of what I've been hearing as of late. Some of it is actually original, interesting, and on occasion--deep. That said...NOTHING that anyone in the subgenre has produced yet has come close to being as good as Mobb Deep's catalogue, nor does it have the longevity.

[Carter]

GqPo8kF8Wzs

[Tottybrer]

Road wrap.

oo i knew it had something to do with it, i was just too slow to recognise. my bad lol

[Trapstar]

bigman ting though roadrap is doing it right now

[madness]

GqPo8kF8Wzs

Classic.

[critic of musical arts]

9OBw2_pfhgU

G-Force >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Carter]

9OBw2_pfhgU

G-Force >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

**reps**

G-Force are the top rap guys for me!

[Carter]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to critic of musical arts again.

par lol

[Eric Cantona]

Beyond The Booth mix cd was alot, i still play that cd now, Jammer & Lewi White make sick hip hop

[Carter]

Beyond The Booth mix cd was alot, i still play that cd now, Jammer & Lewi White make sick hip hop

I need that, cant find it anywhere

[Eric Cantona]

I was just looking on the and they released 2

www.ukrecordshop.com/item/beyond-da-booth.html
www.ukrecordshop.com/item/beyond-da-booth-industry-standard.html

I never had the 1st one

[JACK]

lol volume one looks too oldschool, pm's appreciated

[critic of musical arts]

Beyond The Booth mix cd was alot, i still play that cd now, Jammer & Lewi White make sick hip hop


G-Force - Reppin the endz strong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Spliffy ranger - Nines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
DM - From a place >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

These are from the first one btw

[RIP Jakey]

too bait cookie u have to be :ninja: about it and use bold

Private message me

[slim]

an example

Ghetto>>DVS>>Leathal B


like both Generes but Its grime>>UK RAP

deres more swag, Big names in the underground UK rap Scene then the In grime

thats my opinion anyway

MARGZ, DVS, YOUNG FUCKINNNN SPRAY,> GIGGS

[Danny Trejo]

would also like volume one if possible

[Eric Cantona]

i found it on google

[D.MAN]

pdc,north star,sn1,g force to name a few have been doin this 4 ages ..

personally i like road rap and listen to dem man now and again .
the ting with road rap i aint keen on is most of them flow and sound the same these days,
telling the same storys.

the energy of grime music cant be beaten.

[Pred]

With every post in this thread, I find the term "road rap" more and more pretentious.

[Retrofreak]

With every post in this thread, I find the term "road rap" more and more pretentious.

...

[nortside]

In terms of recent releases, there's more good rap coming out of London than there is grime.

trust roadside geez are basically more road rap then grime now
ABM are starting to pick up heat in south, obviously Giggs and SN1, mashtown,shak corleone etc

road rap does seem to be gaining more popularity these days for sure, what people forget is a lot of man doing road rap jumped from the grime scene after it started dying out.

TBH i think grime and road rap will probably merge slightly
like i said roadside geez do nuff road rap with 031/cfr and giggs and skepta done their little collabo aswell recently

[Tony Starks]

In terms of recent releases, there's more good rap coming out of London than there is grime.
Qft

[Tony Starks]

Dunno what its like for the east or north man on this forum but road rap has south on lock.
I NEVER hear grime pumpin out of cars and I'm being serious
I know certain girls that know gigs tracks word for word and iv never seen dat with grime

[Pred]

I wouldn't expect a girl to learn Sounds & Gimmicks off by heart tbh.

Why are people saying "road rap" like it's a separate genre though?

[RIP Jakey]

annoys me when people say I listen to rap not hip hop

[nortside]

Dunno what its like for the east or north man on this forum but road rap has south on lock.
I NEVER hear grime pumpin out of cars and I'm being serious
I know certain girls that know gigs tracks word for word and iv never seen dat with grime

south is where the heat is in terms of that, up north we don't have nowhere near as many, north star are easily the most prominent but don't get much ratings for their music apart from spray, g money from WG mob does his ting and shankstarz are doing their ting aswell

[JayStarz]

Dunno what its like for the east or north man on this forum but road rap has south on lock.
I NEVER hear grime pumpin out of cars and I'm being serious
I know certain girls that know gigs tracks word for word and iv never seen dat with grime

alie, all over South London is road rap, all I ever hear outside my yard lol

Have a flat for Uni in East London (near Roman Road) too...and everyone there is blazin grime tho

[Carter]

alie, all over South London is road rap, all I ever hear outside my yard lol

Have a flat for Uni in East London (near Roman Road) too...and everyone there is blazin grime tho

Basically East vs South lol

[Switch]

i agree

but musically the grime scene is better 100% agree with you

[Switch]

i hope tempz calls pdc a bunch of silly pussies.

tempz with bottle >>>>>> pdc strapped :laugh:

[Jackyzuckerberg]

Can't even listen to road rap. When grime first started (hate to sound like an old man but I was there from day) all the UK hip hop people were real bitchy about it and said that it was shit and that people in Grime couldn't spit (to be fair alot of them couldn't) and there was a bit off a beef between the UK hip hop v Grime ppl.

All the hip hop goons used to say that Grime wouldn't last more than one summer.

[Pred]

Can we get a word filter to replace "road rap" with "hip hop" please?

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Can we get a word filter to replace "road rap" with "hip hop" please?

Can we Please Get "Road Rap" replaced with "Criminal Music" please

[Ryddel]

lol volume one looks too oldschool, pm's appreciated


too bait cookie u have to be :ninja: about it and use bold

Private message me


would also like volume one if possible

Vol.1 is about on the net.

Will probably cop vol.2

[Ryddel]

I like this Rap stuff though, it's doing alot for me but then again so does Grime at times.

[Revolution]

Can we get a word filter to replace "road rap" with "hip hop" please?

Road Rap describes it well...

To just call it UK Hip Hop suggests sumfink diffrent...

Rememba UK Hip Hop's bin going on since da late 80's... but its completely diffrent to Road Rap

UK Hip Hop= Klashnekoff, Taskforce, Skinnyman, Rodney P, Braintax....

Road Rap= Giggz (SN1), PDC, Mashtown, Joe Black, Youngspray (Northstar)

[Dioufy]

Road Rap is da new lick tbh, its completly diff to UK Hip-Hop
But Jaja is swag so whys he talking, hes yankee flow is awful
But i think u can only go so far with Road Rap, as the content is strictly 4da roads
At the moment I listen 2 more Road Rap than Grime but Grime is much bigger
ders alot of talented spitters in road rap but after a while it gets depressing
cant listen to too much ov it

[Pred]

Describe the differences between UK Hip Hop and this 'Road Rap' aside from content, which varies from MC to MC in Grime anyway.

[Retrofreak]

Can we Please Get "Road Rap" replaced with "Criminal Music" please

^^^This

[Danny Trejo]

Describe the differences between UK Hip Hop and this 'Road Rap' aside from content, which varies from MC to MC in Grime anyway.

Nature of delivery, the Dirty South/D-Block/Heatmakers influenced beats, the fuckin workrate.
The fact that it's basically made for the car as opposed to being backpacker headphone music is a very clear distinction as well.

And the content is a BIG factor. It's our version of "Coke"/"Trap" rap, but inevitably a lot darker and harder because that's how our music is.

[Retrofreak]

Describe the differences between UK Hip Hop and this 'Road Rap' aside from content, which varies from MC to MC in Grime anyway.

Nail.


http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-16519294.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B32B22F76-1D5E-46C8-ABB5-F4E8F152D9A5%7D

No different from SAS and early London Posse stuff.

[Pred]

Yeah, stick "UK" on something and it tends to be different to what the US puts out. It's always the way.

But slackk I think you're just proved my point. They're on Hip Hop beats, regardless of what direction they lean towards musically. People don't make a new sub-genre for different styles of Grime. It's just a UK version of what Americans do anyway. It's another side of UK Hip Hop.

Same with Dubstep too, there's a lot of different sides to that.

[Revolution]

Yeah, stick "UK" on something and it tends to be different to what the US puts out. It's always the way.

But slackk I think you're just proved my point. They're on Hip Hop beats, regardless of what direction they lean towards musically. People don't make a new sub-genre for different styles of Grime. It's just a UK version of what Americans do anyway. It's another side of UK Hip Hop.

Same with Dubstep too, there's a lot of different sides to that.

Ders 2 many Road Rap guys spitting similar barz, on similar beats...for it not 2 b a subgenre of UK Hip Hop...

[critic of musical arts]

Nature of delivery, the Dirty South/D-Block/Heatmakers influenced beats, the fuckin workrate.
The fact that it's basically made for the car as opposed to being backpacker headphone music is a very clear distinction as well.

And the content is a BIG factor. It's our version of "Coke"/"Trap" rap, but inevitably a lot darker and harder because that's how our music is.

Exactly this. reps

[Ryddel]

Nature of delivery, the Dirty South/D-Block/Heatmakers influenced beats, the fuckin workrate.
The fact that it's basically made for the car as opposed to being backpacker headphone music is a very clear distinction as well.

And the content is a BIG factor. It's our version of "Coke"/"Trap" rap, but inevitably a lot darker and harder because that's how our music is.

c/s

[Retrofreak]

Yeah, stick "UK" on something and it tends to be different to what the US puts out. It's always the way.

But slackk I think you're just proved my point. They're on Hip Hop beats, regardless of what direction they lean towards musically. People don't make a new sub-genre for different styles of Grime. It's just a UK version of what Americans do anyway. It's another side of UK Hip Hop.

Same with Dubstep too, there's a lot of different sides to that.

^^^This

*Repped*

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

this is road rap


ill shot your mum and kidnap your sister
drop down her panties and then ill fist her

i done 5 robberies but i buss case everytime
i lied to the police that i owned a 9

*police rush in and arrest him after he posts the song on myspace"

[Danny Trejo]

They're on Hip Hop beats, regardless of what direction they lean towards musically. People don't make a new sub-genre for different styles of Grime. It's just a UK version of what Americans do anyway. It's another side of UK Hip Hop.

Completely, but that's not a negative thing- some of the music coming out of this "microscene" is brilliant, very little out of grime is at the moment, and that's my point.
Also, you know as much as I do exactly what UKHH as a term refers to- the exact crowd, the "conscious" lyrics, even the tempo of 90% of the music- and as such people use the term road rap to differentiate.

People who listen to it can make very clear distinctions.

[Revolution]

Completely, but that's not a negative thing- some of the music coming out of this microscene is brilliant, very little out of grime is at the moment, and that's my point.
Also, you know as much as I do exactly what UKHH as a term refers to- the exact crowd, the "conscious" lyrics, even the tempo of 90% of the music- and as such people use the term road rap to differentiate.

People who listen to it can make very clear distinctions.

So are you saying there Road Rap is a subgenre of UK Hip Hop?

[Pred]

Completely, but that's not a negative thing- some of the music coming out of this microscene is brilliant, very little out of grime is at the moment, and that's my point.
Also, you know as much as I do exactly what UKHH as a term refers to- the exact crowd, the "conscious" lyrics, even the tempo of 90% of the music- and as such people use the term road rap to differentiate.

People who listen to it can make very clear distinctions.

I know what you mean but I don't think of 'conscious' when I think of UKHH, I think of UK's HH scene. Tempa T and Random Impulse don't make different genres.

[Danny Trejo]

Fuck all this subgenre talk man.
It's MCs- mostly from South- talking about road topics over rhythms that sound good in your car. Over the last year ago a lot of good CDs have sprung up and it's getting more attention.

People analyse this stuff too much.

[Revolution]

Fuck all this subgenre talk man.
It's MCs- mostly from South- talking about road topics over rhythms that sound good in your car. Over the last year ago a lot of good CDs have sprung up and it's getting more attention.

People analyse this stuff too much.

Ye fair enuff, but its alot diffrent to say klashnekoff, skinnyman, rodney p, jehst, lewis parker, taskforce etc...

So mayb its not a subgenre, but more a 'new age uk hip hop'?

[Equilibrium]

stop trying to name it.

[Retrofreak]

stop trying to name it.

...

[Revolution]

stop trying to name it.

lol

[Revolution]

but its obviously diffrent 2 da UK Hip Hop of b4

[Danny Trejo]

depends how far you go back

[Andre]

its people who sound like theyve had a stroke rapping on simple americanised beats

[JACK]

so basically the argument is why road rap is called road rap and not rap yeah......

[Pred]

but its obviously diffrent 2 da UK Hip Hop of b4

Grime now is different to the Grime of before. Hip Hop in America is different to the Hip Hop of before.

[Shanger]

theres

US hip hop
UK hip hop
grime

llow makin more genres.

[Jay]

Aint this "road rap" all about who can flow in the slowest monotone possible?

[critic of musical arts]

Grime now is different to the Grime of before. Hip Hop in America is different to the Hip Hop of before.

but them uk hiphop guys are still about tho, jehst taskforce etc and still doing it how they used to.

its still uk hiphop tho this so called 'road rap'

[Shanger]

rap = hip hop

road or not.

the only 2 types r US hip hop and UK hip hop.

and how r ppl gona tell me grime is hip hop, but then make a genre called road rap.

[E72]

Can Sum1 Get Him Ona Grime Beat So I Can l o l Please.

[Retrofreak]

rap = hip hop

road or not.

the only 2 types r US hip hop and UK hip hop.

and how r ppl gona tell me grime is hip hop, but then make a genre called road rap.

...

[Danny Trejo]

Retro you cosign everything that describes grime as our hip-hop.

[Shanger]

grime has a very different sound to hip hop.

just cos they both involve spittin as opposed to singing.

theyre as different as indie/rock is to heavy metal.

[Retrofreak]

Retro you cosign everything that describes grime as our hip-hop.

Yeah cause it is.

Localized Hip Hop via Garage.

[Carter]

Goodz already took Giggs to school..........these guys need to step up

[Andre]

road rap is about proving how cold and emotionless you are through your flow

so if you sound something like stephen hawking you should shift units

[R.dot.Tubbs]

LOL@this, same shit everytime.

Why do people on here always argue about what things are called?

Always the same fucking people over analysing shit and trying to prove they have more musical knowledge.

Stop critically evaluating everything and take the music for what it is.

[Carter]

I never thought Road Rap was a genre or anythig, its just a new breed of uk rappers.......

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

This shit is absolutely retarded, and I probably shouldn't even continue the argument, but fuck it, that's what the internet is for right? Slackk has it exactly right. It's not trying to be its own genre or any of that shit.

It's as simple as this: New sounds/styles arise, and the listening population comes up with new terms to describe them.

What the fuck is the problem?

When you've got a producer like Boom who in my mind, is begining to build his own sound, and you've got MC's revocalling tunes like Banger riddim and Gunshot Riddim, i think it's safe to say that there is something emerging with some distinction from what has come before in UK Hip-hop.

At day's end, it's just a way for people who like similar things to make talking about it on the internet easier.

Goddamn....

[Tony Starks]

I never thought Road Rap was a genre or anythig, its just a new breed of uk rappers.......
would agree

[Tony Starks]

Goodz already took Giggs to school..........these guys need to step up
did he really though??

[out there]

LOL@this, same shit everytime.

Why do people on here always argue about what things are called?

Always the same fucking people over analysing shit and trying to prove they have more musical knowledge.

Stop critically evaluating everything and take the music for what it is.


ummmm

reps..

[Troublesome]

its funny how you call it 'road rap' lol. Grime scene is full up of a lot of neeks though. some bait fakes, the grime scene even sometimes makes it acceptable to be a fake.

If your can relate to the uk rap scene then you'd enjoy it more time, if you can't more time you won't. just depends on the individual listening.

But in my opinion, the uk rap scene is much healthier than its ever been. They're doing better than grime right now anyway. Theres at least like 2 releases every month from artists. If not then DJs/Record labels put out mixtapes every so often. Alot of hood videoss aswell.

Allow calling it beef though lol.

[Eric Cantona]

did he really though??

he parred his whole career

[Dioufy]

the rappers wer the ones who started calling road musik/street musik/road rap/shotta rap

[E72]

Originally Posted by Carter
Goodz already took Giggs to school..........these guys need to step up
:laugh:

[Tony Starks]

he parred his whole career
Lol @ goodz parring Giggs career. Was this before or after the BET award or the huge selling album?

All goodz said is basically he aint a fan of giggs style which is irrelevant when giggs is 100x bigger than him

[Carter]

Lol @ goodz parring Giggs career. Was this before or after the BET award or the huge selling album?

All goodz said is basically he aint a fan of giggs style which is irrelevant when giggs is 100x bigger than him

Huge selling album????

Because his team said so..........I didn't see it in the charts or the T.V. and they played the whole 'sold out in HMV' thing great because really it was most of the stores didn't order them!

[JACK]

This shit is absolutely retarded, and I probably shouldn't even continue the argument, but fuck it, that's what the internet is for right? Slackk has it exactly right. It's not trying to be its own genre or any of that shit.

It's as simple as this: New sounds/styles arise, and the listening population comes up with new terms to describe them.

What the fuck is the problem?

When you've got a producer like Boom who in my mind, is begining to build his own sound, and you've got MC's revocalling tunes like Banger riddim and Gunshot Riddim, i think it's safe to say that there is something emerging with some distinction from what has come before in UK Hip-hop.

At day's end, it's just a way for people who like similar things to make talking about it on the internet easier.

Goddamn....

no bread but the ratio of your posts to your posts that i agree with is actually nuts

[longz]

So wat mans saying ppl aint fake tht do this road rap thing? come on he sounds mad to me still. When it comes to u.k road rap he aint top 5 imo so boi end of really

[BananaMan]

tbh this ting has the streets on lock
workrate is high n also djs puttin out tapes makes sure new material is always being made from rappers. DVD ting is bubbling and the target audience buy the CDs. Allow saying the ting wilk be dead in 5 years time when you only knew the ting existed when gigz won a b.e.t

plus the top guys aint trynna sell out

[R-Style]

like i said d double is a hug barer, who cares if what he says is real or not. its music fam at the end of the day

[nortside]

grime has a very different sound to hip hop.

just cos they both involve spittin as opposed to singing.

theyre as different as indie/rock is to heavy metal.

what would you describe roadside geez as then?
grime or road rap? because they definetly cross both borders,

i said before in england we always renaming things trying to pidgeon hole things because everyone is so precious about their favourite music they got to distance themselves from stuff they don't like,

road rap is obviously hip hop but tradtional uk hip hop heads hate it cos they not as technical as klashnekoff and jehst etc, that's why we get so many sub genres.

The funny thing is for grime fans who hate it so much is i would say grime and "road rap as it is termed are merging closer then ever,

Roadside Geez are a good example and if you look at most mcs from grime these days they quick to say im not just a grime mc im an artist and hence make mixtapes half full of road rap,

Basically traidional uk hip hop heads hate these breed or rappers, while grime becomes much less like the grime of old and slowly more hip hop like and you create an underground scene, you already have loads of mcs who cross the borders anyway

[Carter]

They envy the grime scene though

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

They envy the grime scene though

they must i bet when they are mentioned in the sun they probaly say they are grime rappers, tinchy does a hip-pop song and they still call him grime