The Devlin Rejects

[Steez]

Here is a free download, a collection of tracks that Devlin picked for his next mixtape, but then decided not to use, all produced by me.

I no longer have interest in them, but some of you may so here you go.

http://rapidshare.com/files/98224253/Statuz_-_The_Devlin_Rejects.rar

www.myspace.com/thestatuz for more stuff, there's about 20 older beats for free on there aswell

[Aza T]

You are an odd character statuz!

[Steez]

You are an odd character statuz!
lol why? Did you download?

[Aza T]

Its just a very odd method of promoting yourself.

And nah, i went to go download it, but some doughnut has rinsed the rapidshare account that i use with 4 other people...

Ill grab it in a second though

[Demos]

safety

[fuk off]

downloadin now safe

[Steez]

I'm doing a next link still but my connections slow, could be hours lol

Nah, I figure I'll always improve, make new music so I an afford to let a stack go for free ... and if they weren't good enough to make the mixtape, they're probably shit anyway lol

[Retrofreak]

I'm doing a next link still but my connections slow, could be hours lol

Nah, I figure I'll always improve, make new music so I an afford to let a stack go for free ... and if they weren't good enough to make the mixtape, they're probably shit anyway lol

Just heard them.

There's a couple sick ones in there for real.

I don't think you should fling away your beats like that though, Just cause Devlin didn't get them don't mean their shit.

Sometimes you have to give people a vision/concept when your selling your beats.

[Thisisme]

^^^^^
agreed

[Steez]

I'm not even selling them still, but yeah, most of them, besides maybe 2 in there were beats I'd given up on anyway but just happened to show clips of.

The newer stuff I've got a hold on, and I'm (trying) to work with artists on that stuff.

Which ones were people feeling?

[Anonymous]

Nice, I Might Download, Not Sure Coz I Dont Devlin.

[Steez]

Nice, I Might Download, Not Sure Coz I Dont Devlin.
They're the instrumentals g

[Retrofreak]

I'm not even selling them still, but yeah, most of them, besides maybe 2 in there were beats I'd given up on anyway but just happened to show clips of.

The newer stuff I've got a hold on, and I'm (trying) to work with artists on that stuff.

Which ones were people feeling?

1.Bodied....this is sick I could here top MC on this.
2.Cookie Jar...very, very grimey

You should pitch these two to MC's that can Skip hard!!

Others

"Suck out" has potential, but personally i'd change the drum pattern and drum sounds.

"Fuck of" don't like the counter melody that comes in later, but I can hear Trim,Skepta or Jammer on this.

[Wiz]

LOL, shoulda just said they're old beats, instead of saying they got rejected, downloadin still

[Demos]

these beats are sick

[Steez]

LOL, shoulda just said they're old beats, instead of saying they got rejected, downloadin still
People wouldn't have read it nearly as much as if I mention Devlin's name lol ... I might aswell use the rejection for that extra promo

[Blacksterz]

hmm a stoke on trent producer... might be there next year for uni :D

[Nine Bar]

d/l now will give feedback soon fam

[Steez]

hmm a stoke on trent producer... might be there next year for uni :D
What course? You got any other options lol?

[Anonymous]

They're the instrumentals g

Oh Right Lol I Didnt Clock. Gonna Download Now.
Safe.

[whats_the_score?]

cool I'll have a listen.

[Nine Bar]

i swear they all sound da same man

suck out is big tho stil best on there imo

[AKKA]

Statuz - Suck Out

Big tune.

['nuum general]

beats are sounding tight so far

[Miyagi Dan]

**downloading**

btw you shouldnt take one artists opinion to heart, people look for diffrent things in a beat, and judging by the comments in this thread ur beats are decent so u shulda tried givin them to other mc's before jus slingin them away lol...just my opinion tho mate

[Steez]

**downloading**

btw you shouldnt take one artists opinion to heart, people look for diffrent things in a beat, and judging by the comments in this thread ur beats are decent so u shulda tried givin them to other mc's before jus slingin them away lol...just my opinion tho mate
I get what everyones saying still, but I'm losing interest in grime production anyway, MCs ain't serious.

Plus, aside from 2 or 3, these genuinely are a bunch of quite old beats.

And, as long as I keep making beats I should keep impoving and making new music, so losing a few here and there is minor.

Feedbacks appreciated though still.

[Skola]

*listens*

*smiles*

*downloads*

[Steez]

*listens*

*smiles*

*downloads*
lol what's the smile about? Makin me paranoid still lol

[Skola]

lol nah

beats are soundin very decent considering im hearin them thru laptop speakers

im lookin for beats so its good to find some

[Steez]

lol nah

beats are soundin very decent considering im hearin them thru laptop speakers

im lookin for beats so its good to find some
Oh seen lol, cool ... use them for what you like :D

[Miyagi Dan]

I get what everyones saying still, but I'm losing interest in grime production anyway, MCs ain't serious.

Plus, aside from 2 or 3, these genuinely are a bunch of quite old beats.

And, as long as I keep making beats I should keep impoving and making new music, so losing a few here and there is minor.

Feedbacks appreciated though still.

yh i see u

il listen and leave feedback lata g

[Retrofreak]

I get what everyones saying still, but I'm losing interest in grime production anyway, MCs ain't serious.

Plus, aside from 2 or 3, these genuinely are a bunch of quite old beats.

And, as long as I keep making beats I should keep impoving and making new music, so losing a few here and there is minor.

Feedbacks appreciated though still.

I hear what your saying, but we keep devaluing or music by giving things away for free.

How do you expect to get to the next level when you haven't put them together in a project or tried other great MC's that might see past your demos?

I understand the whole thing of giving stuff out for promo, but at least when "Young Dot,P-money and Griminal" did it, they had full songs to garner some radio play=hype.



"Why give away what you can sell"

[Steez]

I hear what your saying, but we keep devaluing or music by giving things away for free.

How do you expect to get to the next level when you haven't put them together in a project or tried other great MC's that might see past your demos?

I understand the whole thing of giving stuff out for promo, but at least when "Young Dot,P-money and Griminal" did it, they had full songs to garner some radio play=hype.



"Why give away what you can sell"
I feel you still, but ...

UK MCs are, generally, the biggest set of waste cadets I've ever had the misfortune of communicating with in a business sense. Half of them don't even answer direct questions properly.

Finding a decent MC to go on a track is stupidly hard, a lot of the time, when MCs like a beat, they take it ... then it's air pie afterwards.

I've had established MCs ask me for tracks, then when I send them, they ignore it and all following messages.

It's a par. Grime music is fucked.

The americans though, and hip hop, I can sell beats to them guys for straight cash all day every day, so that's what I'm going back to.

As for devaluing the music ... now that a few people have done free releases, it's hard for following acts to break through without doing the same thing. Once it has been done once, everyone expects the same.

Plus, I'm a firm believer in the fact that music should be free, or a subscription charge, and that artists should make money either through an hourly wage or merchandise and live shows.

[Retrofreak]

I feel you still, but ...

UK MCs are, generally, the biggest set of waste cadets I've ever had the misfortune of communicating with in a business sense. Half of them don't even answer direct questions properly.

Finding a decent MC to go on a track is stupidly hard, a lot of the time, when MCs like a beat, they take it ... then it's air pie afterwards.

I've had established MCs ask me for tracks, then when I send them, they ignore it and all following messages.

It's a par. Grime music is fucked.

The americans though, and hip hop, I can sell beats to them guys for straight cash all day every day, so that's what I'm going back to.

As for devaluing the music ... now that a few people have done free releases, it's hard for following acts to break through without doing the
same thing. Once it has been done once, everyone expects the same.

Plus,I'm a firm believer in the fact that music should be free, or a subscription charge, and that artists should make money either through an hourly wage or merchandise and live shows.

I see where your coming from ,but

1. High Quality Videos
2. Good Press
3. Radio pluggers
4. Mastering
5. Recording
6. Your equipment and time

Are all integral parts of promoting your music to a wider audience they are NOT free ,so why should music be?

If you was to take a year out of your life like Lewi White and Ghetto did to do a project would you give it away for free?

I emphasis with you on the waste MC's out there ,but as a "Beat maker" your gonna be low on the food chain unless:

1. you have a big name from putting your music out.
2. you have a working relationship with the artists
3. you decide to spare head an artist project and become the "Producer"

[Nine Bar]

one of the most interesting threads on this whole forum!!!!

[RIP Jakey]

i'll d/l later on got rapidshare goin atm

[Mister Lacey]

Big up, some nice beats man!

[Carter]

Lol............

[Steez]

I see where your coming from ,but

1. High Quality Videos
2. Good Press
3. Radio pluggers
4. Mastering
5. Recording
6. Your equipment and time

Are all integral parts of promoting your music to a wider audience they are NOT free ,so why should music be?

If you was to take a year out of your life like Lewi White and Ghetto did to do a project would you give it away for free?

I emphasis with you on the waste MC's out there ,but as a "Beat maker" your gonna be low on the food chain unless:

1. you have a big name from putting your music out.
2. you have a working relationship with the artists
3. you decide to spare head an artist project and become the "Producer"
True.

But then I question how much of that one person is capable of now.

Realistically, IF I could rap. I firmily believe I could record, mix, master the track myself. Design artwork. Press it up. And promote it.

All by myself.

I'm pretty good at that kinda stuff, I don't think a few Radio 1 plays would be out of the question either if the track was strong.

I'll start replying to the latter of your post. Point 1 - fair enough, I see building a name would be good. But I've often had the argument that my music is better for an MC than as instrumental on radio, so why give it to a DJ to play on radio without vocals?

Point 2. - Exactly what I'm saying, the internet made it so easy to communicate but it also makes it stupidly easy to break the communication. Building solid, meaningful releationships has basically ended.

Point 3. I could do this. I think I could produce a decent album if I believed in a single artist enough, and they were close enough to work with. My location doesn't help at all but I see what you're saying.


The music industry is fucked. I have a degree in music technology, I make beats, am well spoken and educated, have a lot of ideas that are potentially massive - yet I still can't make moves anywhere, and I firmly believe it's not my fault.

Making a living from independent music is so hard. From what I've seen in grime, one, maybe two producers have made a yearly wage from music. I can't really see a solution either.

You note all of those things that are really required to make a hit single, but the return on such a single barely covers those costs, if at all, if you can afford them originally. It's crazy.



A couple of situations I've come across recently in grime that made me think fuck it.

I messaged one very reputable MC, showed him a load of beats. He took four. I went studio, mixed and mastered them, sent them back. It's been three weeks, no response, I know he's reading the messages and airing them. What's the point? Did he want the beats or not?


Another one, another known MC, who has the potential to go commercial. He messaged ME asking for beats. So I sent them. Apparently his email wouldnt open it. So I sent direct links to the clips, aswell as a soundclick page for streaming. Nothing, again. Maybe the beats are swag, but I'd put money on them being better than half of his album, and the fact he messaged me suggests otherwise.



Then there was another MC who picked ELEVEN tracks, I mixed them all. Sent them. Apparently he wrote to some, and then used none. And all I got for my trouble was a forum thread, I very much doubt I'll even get a nice free copy of the final CD just to say thanks for the effort ... would only cost them like £3 or something to hook that up.



Then there was the MC who asked for beats on his myspace blog ... yet, when you message him with your email and clips he deletes it without even reading it? What the fuck?


I don't get it. And I know for sure it's not just me. It happens to other people, I've seen it.

I don't know how I, or anyone else, can make a living from music.

[Steez]

Lol............
I waited for your post, and that was it? Slippin'

['nuum general]

have you thought about doing like scorcher did with thunderpower, ie, getting emcees to vocal your tracks for a compilation for you to put out? If its a situation where their getting paid they be have a greater incentive to put some effort in.

[Steez]

have you thought about doing like scorcher did with thunderpower, ie, getting emcees to vocal your tracks for a compilation for you to put out? If its a situation where their getting paid they be have a greater incentive to put some effort in.
Yes. I sent 77 messages. I got about 3 replies. Most people read it and par, some might forget to go back to it, who knows?

And this is why I come to the conclusions my grime is crap lol

[Demos]

Yes. I sent 77 messages. I got about 3 replies. Most people read it and par, some might forget to go back to it, who knows?

And this is why I come to the conclusions my grime is crap lol

nah ur a sick beat maker.

but tbh grime MCs are a par, they dont wanna listen unless ur the same producer on every other mixtape (which is also a reason why grime releases are so boring, same beats from the same producers)

[Steez]

nah ur a sick beat maker.

but tbh grime MCs are a par, they dont wanna listen unless ur the same producer on every other mixtape (which is also a reason why grime releases are so boring, same beats from the same producers)
Ha, safe

Yeah I think this aswell, there's only like 2 producers who I really feel are the go-to producers, everyone else is just kinda pushing beats everywhere that are OK-ish

[Mister Lacey]

There are some sick producers people fail to mention man and SHOULD go to. And bruv your Grime beats aint crap at all.

[Nine Bar]

if i was u id keep duin ur ting, dont stick 2 just grime tho, hip hop, grime, electro, dance ne fin, i only liked 2/3 beats at most on that d/l.

i hear wat ur sayin tho bwt y u fink ur wastin ur time, y is it grime artists/djs r scared 2 play/vocal tunes by ppl who arent that big in the scene?

[Steez]

if i was u id keep duin ur ting, dont stick 2 just grime tho, hip hop, grime, electro, dance ne fin, i only liked 2/3 beats at most on that d/l.

i hear wat ur sayin tho bwt y u fink ur wastin ur time, y is it grime artists/djs r scared 2 play/vocal tunes by ppl who arent that big in the scene?
Because it's not instant hype. If man says this tune is produced by DaVinChe, certain fans love it off even before it's played.

I do a lot of different stuff, my hip hop is far better than grime I already knew that. Starting to move into house still.

[critic of musical arts]

statuz u no seem to know exactly wagwan with the stush mcees. its really hard for producers in grime. they get more pars than a round of golf!

keep doing the grime tho cos your alot man, im feeling the beats

[HypeKidd]

You are talented, i'm getting your collection aswell...

[Jae Dave]

sfe bruv! :)

[Quite a character]

thanks matey

[Quite a character]

its really hard for producers in grime. they get more pars than a round of golf!


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even when ur good