GrimeReviews, GrimeLyrics

[DaBlackAlbino]

Has this been thought about? These are both things that the users themselves could help to contribute to and gives all these downloaders some sort of use to the scene :laugh: :laugh:

Also it helps establish GRIME-WHATEVER as a foothold in the scene, and maybe eventually even a trademark/respected grime outlet. More control in intelligent minds to help establish grime further as a more professional business. Admins?

[Garybouba]

I got an empty server i might look into GrimeReviews.co.uk or something, get some people on there to contribute, post blogs up etc, and there is already GrimeLyrics lol.

[DaBlackAlbino]

Yeah i've clocked grimelyrics, it's not good; I meant an actual community contributing lyrics site of the same sort of concept.

Grime Reviews are very popular in the forum from what I've seen; definitely a good idea to have; i'd like to take part in that (flex those literacy skills loool) could possibly help sell CDs as well. :)

[Steez]

If you had GrimeReviews set up so a set few proper journos submitted their opinions and scores. Then you had the user opinions, it would be sick.

Like if you went on to check a CD and it said HyperFrank says 8/10 but the public voted 2.2/10 from 79 votes ... you'd think twice about copping it.

If you THEN, posted clips of every album track or low quality rips so you could listen to it and get a feel for it, that would be dope.

And even FURTHER STILL, put a buy it now link to every shop that had it in stock, so I could cop it straight off if I wanted, that would be super dope.

[Garybouba]

If i was to set up GrimeReviews, would people here like to contribute? Put ads up advertising new releases etc, anyone interested?

I got a dedicated server, i might have to sort something out, big idea, anyone interested in helping out?

[Steez]

I need anything musically related I can get on my CV right now so yeah I want to help part time still. I know quite a bit about websites and shit aswell. Holla at me with what you need me to do and I'll see what I can do to help.

I think I've just shown my ideas are sick lol

[Garybouba]

Lol it is a sick idea yea, just ordered GrimeReviews.co.uk will come soon.

[Grimes]

Wont work

[Quality Control]

..no one can be arsed to review every grime release professionally..

[Wiz]

Or rather.......wait for GrimeStore to be finished and then suggest the idea of having a reviews feature on there.

Hmm?

[G.K.]

I'll help out in whatever way i can.

[Steez]

Or rather.......wait for GrimeStore to be finished and then suggest the idea of having a reviews feature on there.

Hmm?
That's the start of a monopoly still. You need the independance for it to work.

[Garybouba]

I was thinking, not so many professional reviews, but reviews from your every day grime listener, and then at the end, i or someone else who is well spoken and clued up can write up a bigger review based on the cd, and other reviews that have been written. (no brago)

Its too late now, i can throw up some promotions on there and that, not a site to make no one any money except the scene, safe to the people who have offered to help.

[Wiz]

That's the start of a monopoly still. You need the independance for it to work.

I was assuming it was a suggestion on what to add to the whole GrimeForum/Pedia/etc set of sites, so I thought would be better just to keep it within what is already around or planned.

[Steez]

I was assuming it was a suggestion on what to add to the whole GrimeForum/Pedia/etc set of sites, so I thought would be better just to keep it within what is already around or planned.
I see what you were saying still BUT

I think it would work better if it was a separate site, and at the bottom of each page it had a link to EVERY shop that had the product so people could make the choice.

Putting the reviews on the actual page of the GrimeStore site would be swaying people to buy it from there, which imo is good business sense, but dodgy nonetheless.

[G.K.]

I think the idea is alot. Big up Dubstepper.

[Wiz]

I see what you're saying there.

[Garybouba]

I think the idea is alot. Big up Dubstepper.

Safe lol, although i will only be putting it up and running it, hopefully with a few other people from here, big up DaBlackAlbino on the actual GrimeReviews idea though.

[Steez]

I see what you're saying there.
So even if it did add to the network already created, a standalone site would imo be fairer.

You could also post up flyers for raves on it and have reviews of previous raves eg. the Dirty Canvases so people know if it's a good night or not etc.

['nuum general]

we could do with a grime version of http://www.rapreviews.com

not sure lyrics is all that necessary really

[Steez]

we could do with a grime version of http://www.rapreviews.com

not sure lyrics is all that necessary really
To be fair I did think I needed one the other day ... I really don't think P Money ever said

"you're a par, and your barbers a plumber"

but who knows?

[Grime Star]

To be fair I did think I needed one the other day ... I really don't think P Money ever said

"you're a par, and your barbers a plumber"

but who knows?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[DaBlackAlbino]

..no one can be arsed to review every grime release professionally..

I and a set few others I know will, it will take time to get a big archive together but it's definitely worth looking into,allow the negativity...

I'm up for working on this with dubstepper and I should be able to get some backing from the admins into working this.

Yes, grimestore is in the works but wait for that to be done because? the more utilities we have for grime available; the better, grimereviews doesnt just have to be a utility for grime fans but it can serve as a tool for mc's and producers EG: what was wrong with their release (bad choice of beat,badly produced beat; choice of style or whatever comes back in the reviews)

Grimestore is a partnership between Hij + UPTOWN, they don't have to neccessarily work on this with us until/unless they want to; though as it's there brand "GRIME-WHATEVER" i think giving them access to it and making them part of the idea (if they approve of integrating it) is ethical, I (and I'm sure Dubstepper) don't want to steal anybodies name.

If you wanna get even madder on the ideas you could have uptown changing their review feature they have on the store (which actually never has a review for the CD) to link to a grimereviews review as part of the whole partnership/affiliation thing which would definitely give UPTOWN an edge over UKRECORDSHOP - which is a good thing because UKRS r swag on delivery.

Dubstepper you got msn? PM me :)

[Garybouba]

I and a set few others I know will, it will take time to get a big archive together but it's definitely worth looking into,allow the negativity...

I'm up for working on this with dubstepper and I should be able to get some backing from the admins into working this.

Yes, grimestore is in the works but wait for that to be done because? the more the better, grimestore is a partnership between Hij + UPTOWN, they don't have to neccessarily work on this with us until they want; though as it's there brand "GRIME-WHATEVER" i think giving them access to it and making them part of the idea (if they approve of integrating it) is ethical.

Dubstepper you got msn? PM me :)

Yea man cool, check your PMs

[BananaMan]

I like this grimereview idea, I am on writing reviews if reviewers are needed.

[Steez]

DubStepper, again, holla at me with whatever you need, this would be sick for my CV.

[Garybouba]

DubStepper, again, holla at me with whatever you need, this would be sick for my CV.

Yea man course, more people willing to help the better.

[Anonymous]

I Would Help Contribute I Reckon.

[DaBlackAlbino]

Nice to see my idea goin down so well.. it's alot!

[Jack Aggy]

I Would be interested in this as im already writing MixCD reviews for a Magazine at college.

It obviously needs a lot more planning though also. Would it just be the MixCDs the reviewers buy? if so then i think a lot of stuff would be missing from the site, and if reviewers are getting no P out of it, i cant see them wanting to go and have to put P into mixcds that they arent all that interested in, just for the reviews sake.

Thats a minors though. Id Be very interested though, seeing as im already doing it :P

[I Can See You]

good idea

dunno if it will kick off

[FG]

good idea

will help for sure

[me!!!]

A lot of stores sell the same cd's so to make a little money you could get stores to pay you money on a pay per click basis or only allow certain stores to advertise for a premium.

I think its a massive idea and the idea of the listeners doing the reviews with a person of higher standing doing a final write up at the end is brilliant.

[Garybouba]

A lot of stores sell the same cd's so to make a little money you could get stores to pay you money on a pay per click basis or only allow certain stores to advertise for a premium.

I think its a massive idea and the idea of the listeners doing the reviews with a person of higher standing doing a final write up at the end is brilliant.

Yea, I thought that me, or someone else, could make clips of the mixtapes, in one mp3 file, like the whole mixtape clipped down into one 5 minute "showreel" so people can hear themselves weather they like it or not if there not too keen on written reviews.

[Jack Aggy]

This is Moving.

I Can Imagine The Websites Touching Feelings with some artists though.

[me!!!]

You could also do something like having to log in to put a review up, everyone would have their own profile and over time the average listener would have mixtapes that they review as good brought because people trust their opinion due to reviews they gave in the past, or vice versa with bad reviews.

Just a thought.

['nuum general]

You could also do something like having to log in to put a review up, everyone would have their own profile and over time the average listener would have mixtapes that they review as good brought because people trust their opinion due to reviews they gave in the past, or vice versa with bad reviews.

Just a thought.

nah, i reckon it should be a small group of reviewers who know how to write a decent, unbiased review. Otherwise it'll end up like a review thread on here which defeats the object

[Grimes]

there's no such thing as an unbiased review mate, its all opinion at the end of the day

[me!!!]

You would have to find a group that WOULD give an unbiased review and a lot of the people that post on either here or rewind seem to sway towards certain groups rather than others. At least the listener could give their views and someone could write the final review which I think will make the reviews more fair.

[Grimes]

best thing to do is have a 'for' review and a 'against' for each review

[Steez]

Like I said, one or two respectable journos and their blog review. Then maybe 10 unoficial ones with an average score at the end.

[me!!!]

there's no such thing as an unbiased review mate, its all opinion at the end of the day

Of course there is, for instance, carter reviewing anything from slew dem, sunjay and bbk, the list goes on.

[Steez]

It's impossible to have an unbiased opinion. An opinion is by default and definition biased.

[me!!!]

Come on now you no what I'm getting at don't you. Anyway a site that people can come and drop an opinion on artists music they like would make a more sctive site then one were only a select few can contribute, people love having their say, just look at this place.

[Garybouba]

There will be a number of different opinions on each mixtape hopefully anyway, and if i can get permission, there will be 5 odd minute showreels to preview the mixtape or the best tracks, grimereviews.co.uk is active now, im just reinstalling linux o the server and it should start coming together tonight.

['nuum general]

i should have said neutral when i said unbiased. Of course everyone has their favourite artists but your looking for someone to look beyond their preferences towards artists when reviewing stuff

[Grimes]

its hard or unbelievable to have an neutral review when a mixtape is truly abysmal.

['nuum general]

its hard or unbelievable to have an neutral review when a mixtape is truly abysmal.

a neutral one would say its shit as well

[G.K.]

There will be a number of different opinions on each mixtape hopefully anyway, and if i can get permission, there will be 5 odd minute showreels to preview the mixtape or the best tracks, grimereviews.co.uk is active now, im just reinstalling linux o the server and it should start coming together tonight.

kl fam. What u got in terms of graphics? A group of reviewers is a good idea. snippets of mixtapes is good (something lyk the sample box at 7digital i think). Then on the front page have a list of the current top grime CDs and then the all time (as voted).

[The Messiah]

I was thinking, not so many professional reviews, but reviews from your every day grime listener, and then at the end, i or someone else who is well spoken and clued up can write up a bigger review based on the cd, and other reviews that have been written.

I think that's the best way forward. When people by music off amazon, they pay attention to the reviews of everyone on there. If 30 our of 40 people are rating a CD at 4 stars and above then you know you aren't in for any shock disappointment.

[Anonymous]

Im Sure If It Became Big Enough It Would Become Like The Review Section Of A Magazine Where The Reviewers Get Advance Copies Of The Mixtapes To Review Before They Hit The Shelves Which Would Be Alot.

Im Definetley Interesed And Wanna Jump On Board. I Can Write Quite Good Reviews And Stuff Aswell I Feel, For My Age At Least.

[Mowgli]

Bandidge.com

LIKE THIS?

The review bit anyway

[bailey_187]

Hij should start a real magazine.

He replaced RWD forum now to replace RWD mag (except leave out all the swag baseline and indie stuff)

['nuum general]

Hij should start a real magazine.

He replaced RWD forum now to replace RWD mag (except leave out all the swag baseline and indie stuff)

except for a magazine based purely on grime would sell about 5 copies

[Quality Control]

except for a magazine based purely on grime would sell about 5 copies

..and have about 5 pages unless it's a christmas annual..

[Jack Aggy]

How about this?

-Group of 5-10 Reviewers work like an official team for the site. This Group writes full reviews following a strict policy. (bias is irrelevant. Carter for instance would be welcome to review Non stop Working vol.2)

- When a MixCD is released, as many of these write a review as possible. All of These should be Accessible under an official team banner

-Either, one of the team who hasnt reviewed the mixCD (or heard it preferably), OR, the some other special summary guy, Then Writes a Summary of what the Reviewers said, being careful to only mention things said in the Official reviews.
(This would be the first thing a viewer should see when he clicks on a mix cd. With a link to the reviews highlighted elsewhere.)

-On top of this, seperate user reviews/ratings should be available, but seperate from the main teams.

This way you get access to semi-proffessional quality reviews, a shortened summation of multiple views (to eliminate a bit of bias, and for lazy f*ckers)
And the view of the majority.


Sounds like a lot of work though :/

[Ear Drum]

Big up everyone gettin involved in this movement sounds big.

good luck

[Hij]

When I get back from Italia, dun know that the Grime Lyrics sites lyrics are gonna appear on Grimepedia within days.

Safe for that.

*Clocks the minimal amount of songs :(*

[Jay]

When I get back from Italia, dun know that the Grime Lyrics sites lyrics are gonna appear on Grimepedia within days.

Safe for that.

lol dem sly ones dere

[DaBlackAlbino]

You write an unbiased review by highlighting the good and bad points of something and avoid the use of persuasive language. :) Not hard if you know what your doing u jus allow your opinion while you write and focus on the facts.

Reviews can possibly contain opinions but don't need to (we'll talk about this)

[Hij]

Dubstepper, if you want to work together on this, PM me.

Entirely your project, but we can work and cross promote together.

For the review thing.

[Garybouba]

Dubstepper, if you want to work together on this, PM me.

Entirely your project, but we can work and cross promote together.

For the review thing.

Yea im on that, il pm in a sec

[G.K.]

Dubstepper, I was hoping to maybe go into journalism when i leave school next year, so i'll gladly help. Who you getting to do the graphics. PM me if u need anything or add me on MSN or something. I don't know how much of a help i can be but something lyk this to focus my free time on would be alot.

[Garybouba]

Dubstepper, I was hoping to maybe go into journalism when i leave school next year, so i'll gladly help. Who you getting to do the graphics. PM me if u need anything or add me on MSN or something. I don't know how much of a help i can be but something lyk this to focus my free time on would be alot.

Im a designer il probably go most designs myself unless others are willing to help out, and yea its worth a go.

Dubstepper@windowslive.com is my msn

[DaBlackAlbino]

Ey add me as well, dablackalbino@live.co.uk

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

good idea people


2008 >>

[Hij]

ill be in contact when im back still

[Nine Bar]

will help in ne way possible

good look

[RISKY!]

Wont work

.

[DaBlackAlbino]

Why dont you think it'll work RISKY? I bet people told you the same shit about *********, that it will never kick off into a huge site but your work put it there, so what you sayin?

[Tony Starks]

Dubstepper, im also looking to go into journalism after uni also and this also seems like a very good idea. PM me...willing to get involved.

[RISKY!]

Grimelyrics - there is already a site 4 that [& its dead-out]

GrimeReviews - just on 1 persons opinion, if they say its shit - then if u like it your still gonna buy it... so i think no one would look at that site,,

have a go & try it anywayz but i just think it wont work

[Garybouba]

Grimelyrics - there is already a site 4 that [& its dead-out]

GrimeReviews - just on 1 persons opinion, if they say its shit - then if u like it your still gonna buy it... so i think no one would look at that site,,

have a go & try it anywayz but i just think it wont work

Is not on one persons opinion, everyobne gets a say in what they think of the mixtapes, anyone can add their reviews up, and at the end there will be a few dedicated reviewers who are well spoke, and knowwhat their on about who wil be reviewing it as well.

There will be hopefully showreels of the mixtapes so people can hear the mixtape in 5 mins chopped up, so they know what there getting.

Its going to be affiliated with GrimeForum, GrimePedia and GrimeShop, maybe a few more affiliations if people want are willing.

I have spoke to a few certain guys and they have said how they can help promote the site, etc, artists can go there, and up showreels, clips etc, to be reviewed, or even full tracks for private use of the site, they will be reveiwed by a number of the dedicated site reveiwers.

I think its gonna work.

[FG]

I think this could work, you get what you make of it, seems like more than a few here are willing to help

Props to all the fans putting in the work and making movements

[RISKY!]

There will be hopefully showreels of the mixtapes so people can hear the mixtape in 5 mins chopped up, so they know what there getting.

ASK THE ARTIST 1ST [Myspace ect...] - coz they'll b pissed.

but i hope it works out for you still

[Garybouba]

Yea safe, anyones can contribute, any small contributions will be appreciated, so if anyone wants to help out with the site, then just let me know, seems like a lot of intelligent people here, so if enough people are up for it i think it could get big.


ASK THE ARTIST 1ST [Myspace ect...] - coz they'll b pissed.

but i hope it works out for you still

Yea yea lol, i know that, "hopefully" being the key word. Safe though.

[me!!!]

Ill give a hand if needed, just pm me.

[Wiz]

I don't think grime is active enough for a review site to be very active tbh, there will be like 2/3 reviews a month.

[Carter]

To be fair look at the grimepedia site, loads of pages with no info or just "he is from east london"..........Imagine the lyrics page "38 38. now you're like 38 38" lol

[HypeKidd]

GrimeClothing, GrimeGames, GrimePosters, GrimeGoogle, GrimeTube, GrimeGrime, GrimeRock, GrimeHipHop, GrimeIndie, GrimeMovies, GrimeBeats, GrimeBars, GrimePorn, GrimeCast, iGrime, 2producers1grime.com, GrimeWorldDomination, GrimePrograms, GrimeLife, GrimePhones, GrimeBigBrother... The possibilities are endless... We could even have GrimeTesco.

[Jack Aggy]

Im on Dis. Whats the whole thing saying atm?

[DaBlackAlbino]

Dubstepper not online, waitin on him.

[DaBlackAlbino]

GrimeClothing, GrimeGames, GrimePosters, GrimeGoogle, GrimeTube, GrimeGrime, GrimeRock, GrimeHipHop, GrimeIndie, GrimeMovies, GrimeBeats, GrimeBars, GrimePorn, GrimeCast, iGrime, 2producers1grime.com, GrimeWorldDomination, GrimePrograms, GrimeLife, GrimePhones, GrimeBigBrother... The possibilities are endless... We could even have GrimeTesco.

GrimeTube already exists - http://grimetube.com

[Anonymous]

LOOOL @ 2producers1grime.com

[Garybouba]

Im installing Helm now, so i can run the site off windows 2003 server instead of linux, its all installing now, its going to be registered to the domain later, and there will be a coming soon page up.

I have permission from Skitz to post up her stuff, and streets of rage showreels, still waiting for other replies, but should be cool. Hes got a new promo dropping with 11 tracks soon, its free, but he said if he hooks me early can i do a quick review of that, i said yea because i want to get it going and get some decent rep from guys to get the site more popular.

[Demos]

good luck with the whole thing

[The Messiah]

LOOOL @ 2producers1grime.com

.

[Garybouba]

Domains not yet registered, but site can be accessed via: http://87.98.219.89/

Not up yet, just a pic, will be running later, have permission from...

Skitz
Rage
Frisco
Trim

More to come, i havent asked many people yet, but should be kool.

[I Can See You]

Good look fam keep at it

All these new sites can only do good

[Garybouba]

Yea man safe, i am looking to get a script like this one here:
http://www.review-script.com/

What do people think of it? or does anyone have any other suggestions. safe

EDIT: Demo here...

http://www.trade-review.com/review/

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

dubstepper

a guy msged me the other day about being on this site

www.tgnn.co.uk i think it was

jus another site to add to the list its all good things

[Jack Aggy]

Whats happening then? is it gonna be any guy able to up a review or is there gonna be seperate official Grimereview reviews?

[G.K.]

Whats happening then? is it gonna be any guy able to up a review or is there gonna be seperate official Grimereview reviews?

IMO there should be both. But with the resident journals views rated higher.

[Grimes]

what journalists?

[G.K.]

what journalists?

jus a joke.. I mean the writers 4 the website.

[Hij]

Whats going on with this then?

[me!!!]

I was thinking that this could help out with the bootlegging situation. If this site got cd's before they got released that would mean that they could get reviewed and then people could put their cd's up for pre-order with shops, that would mean that people would order cd's because of good reviews and it would make them make alittle more money than if it just gets put straight out and the same day it gets bootlegged, see what I mean??

[Grimes]

I'm The Champion

[Carter]

I'm The Champion

I'm the champion bruv, so I guess that makes you number 1 contender

[RIP Jakey]

I'm the champion bruv, so I guess that makes you number 1 contender

Sendage

[DaBlackAlbino]

I was thinking that this could help out with the bootlegging situation. If this site got cd's before they got released that would mean that they could get reviewed and then people could put their cd's up for pre-order with shops, that would mean that people would order cd's because of good reviews and it would make them make alittle more money than if it just gets put straight out and the same day it gets bootlegged, see what I mean??

Possibly, this thing could be worked in many ways.

This will definitely be happening soon, sorry for the delays... blame dubstepper for airin' on msn and bein asleep at 7pm on a sunday evening ;)

[BananaMan]

anything new?

[Wiz]

lol @ these grime work rates, I'd help with making one of these myself if I didn't think the ideas were bad

[DaBlackAlbino]

Blame dubstepper, he bought the domain but kept it for himself and dropped the project (he's airin everyone) so allow him, we'll do this ourselves.

[Grimes]

Lmao - Lmao

[BananaMan]

grimereview.com is still available though.

[BananaMan]

someone holla at me with some good hosting sites