Dot Rotten could be Wiley*2

[Hij]

I don't care.

This guy is so fucked.

I need to get out of the hood.
Used to be mine
That's how life goes

Are tunes that I can relate to straight on a level and are different to your usual grime tracks.

bare of his other bars, his productions- large man.

We've been looking for an all rounder for ages. Im certain this topic has been made before, but after a few beers me and my brother were just surfing youtube playing Rottz, and he is a merkers. What do you reckon?

[Andre]

this is the beginning is a lot better than any of wileys mixtapes tbh

but wiley has more bangers overall

but yh hes fucked

[Spitzos]

more den wiley i say
dots large his got fuked tunes
its funny doe i think alot of his tunes could be made in 2 music videos coz he aint got one
of his own

[Hij]

this is the beginning is a lot better than any of wileys mixtapes tbh

but wiley has more bangers overall

but yh hes fucked
Compare the ages.

Dot Rotten can perform a very very good hook, something Wiley has lacked and I'm one of Wiley's biggest fans.

[Andre]

Compare the ages.

Dot Rotten can perform a very very good hook, something Wiley has lacked and I'm one of Wiley's biggest fans.

yhyh i forgot to mention that i agree with you basically

i liked the kind of half sung half droned hooks on this is the beginning

[Wiz]

*still doesn't see the dot hype*

I won't lie Torpedo is a big beat though

[Hij]

*still doesn't see the dot hype*

I won't lie Torpedo is a big beat though
Really?

I think he's fucked. Could hear more of him on radio though.

[Andre]

i only listened to r.i.p. young dot a couple times and it didnt seem as good as this is the beginning

am i right, or should i give it another chance?

[JWoulf]

R.I.P Young Dot was a huge disappointment, only good tune was can't test my crew, "featuring" who?

[Wiz]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on the forum who doesn't like him but yeah.

[Andre]

you can beat me and test me no chance try eat me in e3 ill pull out the streezy out and make eskimo dance >>>>>>>>>>>

[Valhalla]

ive always rated rotten, hes the best all rounder, bars, beats, hooks etc hes sic*** at them all and hes stil only 20...theres more from him yet to come

i think that there are a fair few sick tunes on RIP Y Dot, Is It War, Ima Professional, Thats Hows Life Goes and others

[R-Style]

giving out titb for free was genius. the amouht of exposure he got made him huge. i still remember the first time i heard cats on my line on logan, i d/l'd titb during the advert break

[Hij]

giving out titb for free was genius. the amouht of exposure he got made him huge. i still remember the first time i heard cats on my line on logan, i d/l'd titb during the advert break
And it was just before the download market was saturated IMO.

[MoneyMan]

Rotten's bars on Talkin The Hardest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Some of Rotten's beats on Rotten Riddims, This Is The Beginning & R.I.P. Young Dot>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

He is a badman for sure. I hated (well didn't rate), then rated, then hated him but he fully parred me with that Crazy Fibs 3style, so big up!

[Hij]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on the forum who doesn't like him but yeah.
You've made that clear :-D

[Retrofreak]

Dot has better lyrics and control over melody compared to Wiley.

Wiley has more personality and is the better drum programmer.

[Valhalla]

Dot Rotten - STLT Eski Version

was an out of nowere banger imo

[Quality Control]

*still doesn't see the dot hype*

.

jack of all trades master of none

whereas wiley is like master of all trades (yes bread!)

dot just seems boring to me. he's aight but not my cup of tea

[RIP Jakey]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on the forum who doesn't like him but yeah.

me and you should start a club, he's bare overated

[Hij]

Cool. I dunno how it will turn out, but I know its been on peoples lips for ages without a real discussion on it, so why not.

I think Architect rates Dot, but I can't remember.

[Hij]

He's made bare sick beats, makes good vocals and can spray like anyone can.

Over rated? Compared to who?

[Andre]

dots hooks >>>>>>>>> goodz hooks

certain man need to call badness next time they need a hook

[FG]

I think Dot Rotten is a genuine all-rounder, although I think he still has improvement left in his MCing.

Always preferred him as a producer, and for me he's easily one of the best producers in grime. He has a distinct sound yet is versatile, and the large majority of his beats still have a grime element even when incorporating mellower sounds, such as 10% of my Day/Life and Wildlife.

Andre maybe you prefer TITB because it sounds so much more raw, I dunno. R.I.P Young Dot does sound so much more polished, but it's still sick, best mixtape of '08 for me.

R.I.P is a very good example of the more polished grime music right now, TITB from a few years ago

[Green City]

I agree with the opening post

Dot Rotten>>>

[Kaychi]

Dot is top selected in MC and producer, he's definitely levelling up nicely in the scene. but in the same breathe as Wiley is a bit much tbh, Wiley as an all rounder including war, power and the rest of the obvious things still beats Dot. until he wars evry other head in the scene and starts to takeover (he's still got time....A LOT of it), he will not level will imo

[Burden Durden]

i thought R.I.P young dot was swag.

i wished i could refund my download after listening to it once

[Andre]

one thing i really like about dot is that he spits more realistically hes pretty much the opposite to swagger, talks about being broke, bein pissed off, feelin like everyones against you etc

[Hij]

I think Dot Rotten is a genuine all-rounder, although I think he still has improvement left in his MCing.

Always preferred him as a producer, and for me he's easily one of the best producers in grime. He has a distinct sound yet is versatile, and the large majority of his beats still have a grime element even when incorporating mellower sounds, such as 10% of my Day/Life and Wildlife.

Andre maybe you prefer TITB because it sounds so much more raw, I dunno. R.I.P Young Dot does sound so much more polished, but it's still sick, best mixtape of '08 for me.

R.I.P is a very good example of the more polished grime music right now, TITB from a few years ago
I'd argue that R.I.P is one of the best grime CDs of last year and should have won best CD. If that doesn't mean hes very good I don't know what does.

10% of my day is a banger. I can listen to that without vocals.q

[Hij]

i thought R.I.P young dot was swag.

i wished i could refund my download after listening to it once
Bet you could wish not going down on that girl as well :-D

one thing i really like about dot is that he spits more realistically hes pretty much the opposite to swagger, talks about being broke, bein pissed off, feelin like everyones against you etc
Real.

Grime and you can relate to it. Its not all about guns and heaters, but about real life stories as well.

[Retrofreak]

Dot is sick, just lacking a bit of personality and versatility when he spits imo.

[FG]

one thing i really like about dot is that he spits more realistically hes pretty much the opposite to swagger, talks about being broke, bein pissed off, feelin like everyones against you etc

I agree.

I just think Dot's a good song-writer really. It helps when you produce, but he seems to have good direction, something like OG Season wouldn't have been what it was without Dot's contribution, no send to other members of the OG camp but it's true

[SCP]

yeh dots big as an all rounder, just wish his mixdowns beat wise were better moretime

[Jimmer]

Dots good, one of the best, but his voice can be annoying sometimes.

[Hij]

Dot is sick, just lacking a bit of personality and versatility when he spits imo.
Fair enough.

I think he goes in more emotionally, which is what I want when Im listening to Dot, either looking out my mates car window with the ipod on, or the train, or whatever, just thinking. Makes you think.

Hes an emotional spitter and very good at it when hes on form. But at least you recognise his talents.

[Quality Control]

once you heard two or three Dot tracks, you've heard em all

[FG]

Grime and you can relate to it. Its not all about guns and heaters, but about real life stories as well.

Yeah man, but the thing is Dot chats a lot of greaze as well, so there's a good balance.

Still, I think there was more lyrical balance on This is the Beginning than on R.I.P Young Dot.

[The Don]

touching on what fullygrown said about rip young dot, i see it as the best current representations of grime, although i've seen it described as hiphop on here... it's polished but still dark. i prefer titb but ryd is my favourite of 08 for sure.

dot's been in my top 5 for years now producer and mc wise. c/s on the need for more personality though, not a major thing for me but if he wants exposure outside of the grime scene then definitely.

[Santino]

R.I.P Young Dot was a huge disappointment, only good tune was can't test my crew, "featuring" who?

What about "im not one of them" that is a banger.

[Hij]

once you heard two or three Dot tracks, you've heard em all
Nah thats not true mate.

10% of my day is a banger, has anyone sprayed that yet? I can listen to it on repeat.

He does all sorts of tracks, and is better with hooks + even auto tune than some top MCs.

[Kaychi]

Bet you could wish not going down on that girl as well :-D
Real.

Grime and you can relate to it. Its not all about guns and heaters, but about real life stories as well.

par - http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25359

[Quality Control]

touching on what fullygrown said about rip young dot, i see it as the best current representations of grime, although i've seen it described as hiphop on here... it's polished but still dark. i prefer titb but ryd is my favourite of 08 for sure.

dot's been in my top 5 for years now producer and mc wise. c/s on the need for more personality though, not a major thing for me but if he wants exposure outside of the grime scene then definitely.

he seems to have plenty of personality (holding hands in a circle and becoming God for instance), but his music just doesn't really channel it

[Hij]

he seems to have plenty of personality (holding hands in a circle and becoming God for instance), but his music just doesn't really channel it
lmao at the par.

i think his music does.

Theres some UK rappers that would be proud of "used to be mine", its almost actor worthy, but in musical form.

[FG]

Dot is sick, just lacking a bit of personality and versatility when he spits imo.

I agree with the versatility, sometimes he can be a bit monotone. Was listening to the opening on RIP today, and the flat delivery made it a poor start tbh.

But what's personality? You can't compare him to Wiley, who seems more exuberant and outspoken in his music, but Dot does seem to be a character, even if it's a self-destructive one sometimes.

Think it could be partly the reason why I rate his introspective tunes so highly.

[Retrofreak]

Fair enough.

I think he goes in more emotionally, which is what I want when Im listening to Dot, either looking out my mates car window with the ipod on, or the train, or whatever, just thinking. Makes you think.

Hes an emotional spitter and very good at it when hes on form. But at least you recognise his talents.

Yeah Dot can spray, just needs to use his voice more and learn how to attack each track differently.

R.I.P. Young Dot was good ,but started to sound like one track after a while.

I personally think that Dot and P-money should work with each other more as they both have what the other lacks imo.

[Hij]

He's not on the same level as Wiley for hype/personality perhaps, but I think he makes some better tunes than him at a much much younger age. If Dot progresses there is no reason why he couldn't be the guy to overtake Wiley.

[The Don]

he seems to have plenty of personality (holding hands in a circle and becoming God for instance), but his music just doesn't really channel it

:laugh: i meant through his music still.

he's another one, like p-money who's only like 20/21? he's still young even in the short current lifespan of a grime emcee.

one thing with dot, especially on used to be mine, is i never know whether i want him to keep up the autotune thing; making the tune more his. or hollering at a proper good singer; making it more listenable for the general public and getting the amount of listeners it deserves.

[Hij]

I personally think that Dot and P-money should work with each other more as they both have what the other lacks imo.
Agree still.

Bit of both. + a few good producers thats a project I'd cop.

[Andre]

he seems to have plenty of personality (holding hands in a circle and becoming God for instance), but his music just doesn't really channel it

oi b4 i punch ur mum up be quiet you tramp

[Hij]

:laugh: i meant through his music still.

he's another one, like p-money who's only like 20/21? he's still young even in the short current lifespan of a grime emcee.

one thing with dot, especially on used to be mine, is i never know whether i want him to keep up the autotune thing; making the tune more his. or hollering at a proper good singer; making it more listenable for the general public and getting the amount of listeners it deserves.
He's one of the only guys (like Rapid) who uses it well. Wiley is swag with it and needs to allow it.

[Tony Starks]

Dots hooks means he has the ability unlike ghetts for instance to be able to turn good bars into good songs easier

"You aint from the places where I roooooolllllll
Where I'm from the people are psychooooooooooo
You'll get robbed for wearing your white gooooooollld
Were predators ur prey that's how life gooooooeeeesss"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

And the instrumental is fully fucked

[Pred]

Dot's big, hype is worthy.

[FG]

touching on what fullygrown said about rip young dot, i see it as the best current representations of grime.

yes cuz

was gonna say that but I pulled out lol, no sheep. His sound is uniquely his own but fuck it, for me it's one of the best representations of grime today like you say

[Kaychi]

i agree with Retro freak RE: versatility and personality. no sweet boy tunes or wifey tunes, happy tunes or anything yet

[Tony Starks]

Yeah Dot can spray, just needs to use his voice more and learn how to attack each track differently.

R.I.P. Young Dot was good ,but started to sound like one track after a while.
.
Agree with this

[Hij]

wifey tunes

Dot Rotten - Used to be Mine

listen to the radio rip

[Quality Control]

i agree with Retro freak RE: versatility and personality. no sweet boy tunes or wifey tunes, happy tunes or anything yet

you have a warped perception on what versatility means

[The Don]

i agree with Retro freak RE: versatility and personality. no sweet boy tunes or wifey tunes, happy tunes or anything yet


i'm guessing it's cos he aint happy man lol.

as selfish as it is, i kind of want that to continue lol.

as scorcher assumingly got less angry and put on that happy delivery he got shit.

[Tony Starks]

i agree with Retro freak RE: versatility and personality. no sweet boy tunes or wifey tunes, happy tunes or anything yet
So u want him to make corny mixtapes like bashy just to prove he's versatile? Smh

Listen to his productions he has a vast range and understanding of moods and sounds. He's only two mixtapes deep to be fair

[FG]

i agree with Retro freak RE: versatility and personality. no sweet boy tunes or wifey tunes, happy tunes or anything yet

but he's not following a set formula, which is the impression I get from the structure of a lot of mixtapes, ie must have one sweetboy tune, one serious/social comment tune, couple greazy tracks etc

If it's your strength than cool - a lot of sweetboy tunes hasn't done Sryder too badly.

But his angle ir approach to tunes is what makes him original - 'I'm Just Being Me' is a good example, he doesn't say 'oh dear, no-one likes me', but he changes it slightly to make it more reflecting, whether he'll get his chance to 'break through' etc

5-s5J3vJSf0

[R-Style]

Dot Rotten - STLT Eski Version

was an out of nowere banger imo

large up

[Hij]

but he's not following a set formula, which is the impression I get from the structure of a lot of mixtapes, ie must have one sweetboy tune, one serious/social comment tune, couple greazy tracks etc

If it's your strength than cool - a lot of sweetboy tunes hasn't done Sryder too badly.

But his angle ir approach to tunes is what makes him original - 'I'm Just Being Me' is a good example, he doesn't say 'oh dear, no-one likes me', but he changes it slightly to make it more reflecting, whether he'll get his chance to 'break through' etc
used to be mine

and he also has a 4 bar feature on "shes one of a kind"

[The Don]

if i'm not wrong, titb was made when he was younger than the top tier 'youngers' of today like chipmunk. i might be wrong like i say but i'm sure i heard he did that at 17.

if that's the case; dot >>>>>>>

c/s on the working with p-money mentioned by retro.

ideally dot would have utilised his previous crews i'd much rather hear dot ft. p, wolf, jendor, ice as opposed to voltage and shizz.

[SCP]

^^think sum1 wud strangle jammer if he said it that many times

[natzta]

i do like his workrate,he sends too much though lol

[S.Dubz]

Dot Rotten is a consistent mc/producer with a lot of potential.

For a first mixtape TITB was very well put together with a decent enough variety of tracks.

I was listening back too RIP Y Dot a few days ago and was thinking he does need to work on his lyrics more cos the content isn't there. Again though it was a well structured release with a decent variety of tracks but this time the overall quality had progressed and it sounds more professional than his previous mixtape.

[Hij]

Thread died from then.

[S.Dubz]

wut

[Sheff.Steel]

lost respect when he did industry hoe tbh

[Tony Starks]

lost respect when he did industry hoe tbh
From who???

[Hij]

lost respect when he did industry hoe tbh
really?

bare forum users loved that tune

[Sheff.Steel]

really?

bare forum users loved that tune

dont know, it just wasnt for me i dont think.
He was bigger than that whole situation.

[Quality Control]

lost respect when he did industry hoe tbh

captain save-a-hoe to the rescue!

[S.Dubz]

lost respect when he did industry hoe tbh

Yeah that was a stupidness an so bait.

It better not be on his next mixtape lol

[natzta]

nah he did smack it with industry hoe though lmao

[Sheff.Steel]

was just a shit song. The chorus was catchy but the content seemed boring.
Concept was alright still, but it made him sound whipped imo

[Hij]

used to be mine was bad when i heard it live on air

[Shanger]

dot > wiley

wiley is good but overrated.

[S.Dubz]

He slaughtered Kylie on that hoodstars war dub though imo

[R-Style]

He slaughtered Kylie on that hoodstars war dub though imo
that he did

[The Don]

crackhead crackhead that's what he is.

that tune was fucking sick.

i've lost it reps for an upload.

[S.Dubz]

crackhead crackhead that's what he is.

that tune was fucking sick.

i've lost it reps for an upload.

dBpRltekrgw

It's on youtube fam

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

I've said this many times before, This is the Beginning is my faveourite/most listened to grime release ever

Dot has a disgusting catalogue of beats, with a unique style to rival Wiley.

If Dot had been around when Grime was just starting to the extent that Wiley was, he'd be a top boy for sure and probably would have overtaken Wiley by now

[The Egghead]

Compare the ages.

Dot Rotten can perform a very very good hook, something Wiley has lacked and I'm one of Wiley's biggest fans.

Wot U Call It has one of the best hooks i've heard in grime, same with pies and playtime's over.

Dot is very very good, but not on Wiley's levels yet.

Looking forward to dot's album alot.

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

Dot is the best hook writer since Dizzee imo

[Pristine Condition]

I've said this many times before, This is the Beginning is my faveourite/most listened to grime release ever

Dot has a disgusting catalogue of beats, with a unique style to rival Wiley.

If Dot had been around when Grime was just starting to the extent that Wiley was, he'd be a top boy for sure and probably would have overtaken Wiley by now

this

TITB still gets REGULAR playbacks from me, same as R.I.P YD.

I've been saying Dot has been top boy for a long time.

[Channel_E-D]

May be he is good, but I haven't gotten into the Dot hype yet. I just haven't bothered buying any of his CDs lol.

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

May be he is good, but I haven't gotten into the Dot hype yet. I just haven't bothered buying any of his CDs lol.

don't even need to buy This is the Beginning

seriously it's a top 5 release in grime ever

[R-Style]

May be he is good, but I haven't gotten into the Dot hype yet. I just haven't bothered buying any of his CDs lol.

this is the most pointless post ever. how are you gonna think he is good or get into his hype if your not even gonna listen to his music? that makes no sense. titb is a free download and it will be better then every thing else you payed for **or most likely typed "safe" for**

[Retrofreak]

Dot Rotten is a consistent mc/producer with a lot of potential.

For a first mixtape TITB was very well put together with a decent enough variety of tracks.

I was listening back too RIP Y Dot a few days ago and was thinking he does need to work on his lyrics more cos the content isn't there. Again though it was a well structured release with a decent variety of tracks but this time the overall quality had progressed and it sounds more professional than his previous mixtape.

^^^This

+ Dot>Wiley

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

dot rotten is shit

i dnt see what u see, average producer with occasional bangers he is like flo rida.

lyrics r poor ,, voice is poor, flow is alright

its like he doesnt know how to bring ideas into proper musiic like that song they aint seen shit.

[Retrofreak]

dot rotten is shit

i dnt see what u see, average producer with occasional bangers he is like flo rida.

lyrics r poor ,, voice is poor, flow is alright

its like he doesnt know how to bring ideas into proper musiic like that song they aint seen shit.

Right now Dot is the more consistent producer and he makes better CD's than Wiley.

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Right now Dot is the more consistent producer and he makes better CD's than Wiley.

how do you come 2 that in terms of production.

Tredding on thin ice remains 2 b light years ahead of anything Dot rotten made.

All of Wileys Clubs and 527am shits on anything dot made maybe xcept rowdy riddim n bazooka, but ice rink was betterthan that

[Retrofreak]

how do you come 2 that in terms of production.

Tredding on thin ice remains 2 b light years ahead of anything Dot rotten made.

All of Wileys Clubs and 527am shits on anything dot made maybe xcept rowdy riddim n bazooka, but ice rink was betterthan that

TOTI was swag apart from "Wot you call it", it was Wiley's worst album to date.

Dot's the better hook writer and as monotone as he is, he writes better songs and actually sticks to the subject.

Beat wise Wiley's bangers are few and far between.

[Lew1s]

Nah thats not true mate.

10% of my day is a banger, has anyone sprayed that yet? I can listen to it on repeat.

He does all sorts of tracks, and is better with hooks + even auto tune than some top MCs.

Nobody has vocalled it yet afaik but it was the first beat p money spat over last time he was on logan on his own (i think) there's a thread somewhere with the set in, i'll try find it

edit: found it, different beat lol im pretty sure someone has spat over it on radio before though

[Eklipse]

ive always rated rotten, hes the best all rounder, bars, beats, hooks etc hes sic*** at them all and hes stil only 20...theres more from him yet to come

i think that there are a fair few sick tunes on RIP Y Dot, Is It War, Ima Professional, Thats Hows Life Goes and others

this... from when i first heard him on westwood wid brutal and clipman i fort he was fucked

[ALM]

Dot's fucking sick.

[JACK]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on the forum who doesn't like him but yeah.

no you aint

big producer though

[ALM]

sugar and coke>>>

[grimekid27]

hes need to get a name outside of the grime scene 1st.

he's good but over rated on this forum/

[Tony Starks]

hes need to get a name outside of the grime scene 1st.

he's good but over rated on this forum/
What dus being known outside of grime have to do with being a top mc in the grime scene?

[Tight and Bright]

hes need to get a name outside of the grime scene 1st.

he's good but over rated on this forum/


na

[RJKV]

Lyrically i think no one really touches him. And then you got the beats and producing. I heard him spit Coke and Sugar alot slower on the BlackMagikTV freestyle and each line is fucked. He is probably my favourite artist and i think he makes really good songs. I would like him to go on radio abit more though.

I just like his lyrics, them being clever compared to other basic stuff that's around. I also think he see's the world differently like due to his disorder and stuff, makes him really good.

[Bluntwun]

Rottens a unique artists in the sense that hes not afraid to sing, or vent his emotions about certain subjects while still coming with dirty beats and bars.

I thought TITB was 2 sick, had high hopes 4 RIP dot rotten, but when i got it was a bit dissapointed. so much so that i took it bak to the shop and exchanged it for Killa P's album, which i now kinda regret after listening to RIP quite a few more times sincE!

This year>>>

[Grimes]

dot rotten is the future of the grime scene tbh.

only a few of the new generation of emcees with immense talent

[Grimes]

I can see the comparisons to wiley i.e they both make beats and bars but after that the comparison is pretty dead.

[Equilibrium]

true^^

in my eyes u will never be the "top boy" if u aint done the work on radio like dizz and will did. i dont care about the climate.

[Bluntwun]

I can see the comparisons to wiley i.e they both make beats and bars but after that the comparison is pretty dead.

for real they have nothing in common musically/lyrically i dont think.

they cater to different intersts generally.

[Brutes]

Dot Rottens beats>>>>>

Just saying...

[Retrofreak]

I can see the comparisons to wiley i.e they both make beats and bars but after that the comparison is pretty dead.

I'd add,

1. Both are slightly bipolar and know how to drum up forum controversy.

2. Both capable of a lot creatively, but without the right team behind them they become reckless and are their own worst enemies.

[Tony Starks]

I'd add,

Both capable of a lot creatively, but without the right team behind them they become reckless and are their own worst enemies.
qft

[natzta]

true^^

in my eyes u will never be the "top boy" if u aint done the work on radio like dizz and will did. i dont care about the climate.

harsh but true

[Channel_E-D]

this is the most pointless post ever. how are you gonna think he is good or get into his hype if your not even gonna listen to his music? that makes no sense. titb is a free download and it will be better then every thing else you payed for **or most likely typed "safe" for**

No it isn't pointless, I haven't gotten into the Dot hype and then I gave my reason for it - I haven't bought any of his CDs. I never said I expected to get into the Dot hype by not listening to his music.

From the time I naturally said "I haven't bought any of his CDs" and not "I haven't listened to any" means that I most likely buy CDs and not typed "safe" for.

To be honest, when you got a job 6.99 is like pennies to me rather than others most likely starving themselves saving up their lunch money. Or even typing "safe" for.

[Omen]

Dot is fuckd, i only realised this recently as well, he has huge talent, makes some heavy hooks, structures his songs accordingly and turns beats he touches into actual songs, im looking forward to his next mixtape:)

Anyone know when that is coming out?

[daspecimen]

i think dot is overly fucked and well worthy of all the hype/praise he gets.

i can't wait for the next installment of RR and the album.

Making sweet boy tunes, wifey songs, uptempo dance/electro joints.... it's not that. What Dot does he does well and imo he should keep at it and just hone his skills/craft.

[out there]

dot rotten>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

snm.

[Kristian]

"i'm not like an ice cube with breaks on it - you won't find me stoppin and chillin"

One of the worst bars I've heard! I prefer his beats to be honest, but he's ok.

[E72]

Wiley Issa Grime God No1 Will Ever Match Hes Power In Grime So...

Same Wid Dot But Inna Whole Different Kinda Way.

[madness]

readin a few comments an someone said he hasnt got wifey tunes lol, Used to be Mine which everyones heard, Ride for me over that terra dajah beat, around the world from his myspace, Hold You from S.O.O.N... he's got quite a few still but there not your normal sweetboy tracks.

[ukson]

Really?

I think he's fucked. Could hear more of him on radio though.

co sign, his easily one of my favourites his music seems deeper then alot of artist's and lyrics are propa intricate poperly talented.

[S.Dubz]

No it isn't pointless, I haven't gotten into the Dot hype and then I gave my reason for it - I haven't bought any of his CDs. I never said I expected to get into the Dot hype by not listening to his music.

From the time I naturally said "I haven't bought any of his CDs" and not "I haven't listened to any" means that I most likely buy CDs and not typed "safe" for.

To be honest, when you got a job 6.99 is like pennies to me rather than others most likely starving themselves saving up their lunch money. Or even typing "safe" for.

n/s but this sounds ignorant.

Listen to some freestyles on youtube or when you're bored give TITB a chance.

Then from there you can decide if you want to cop RIP Y Dot.

[Omni]

Dots decent but I don't get the hype with his beats. They are good but they are not very grimey bar a few like Bazooka. Most of them are quite empty and dull and don't bring much hype at all.

[quality]

He's good definately, RIP Young Dot was money well spent. I don't think he's up there on a Ghetto, Doogz, Wiley level though.

Needs to vary his tone of voice as sometimes it gets a bit monotonous and I agree with the above comment about beats. Some of them are absolutely fucked, then some are filler.

[One Cunt]

lmao at the par.

i think his music does.

Theres some UK rappers that would be proud of "used to be mine", its almost actor worthy, but in musical form.


i could not put it better myself...

dot has something about his tunes that make you feel....

hard to explain but e.g used to be mine - gives u that depressing feeling and easy to relate to...

i think dot can become as big, if not bigger than wiley....look at wiley when he was 20 compared to dot now that hes 20....BIG DIFFERENCE

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

Did you mean Oscar worthy?

i'm sure there's a prestigious musical version but i can't think what it's called

[Young Sen]

Yeah i played "R.I.P Young Dot" the last day and played it the whole way through thinking how the fuck did i under rate that cd so much? It is fucked and Dot is pretty much the best all round mc apart from Will.

[RJKV]

dot rotten is shit

i dnt see what u see, average producer with occasional bangers he is like flo rida.

lyrics r poor ,, voice is poor, flow is alright

its like he doesnt know how to bring ideas into proper musiic like that song they aint seen shit.


How you could ever say Dot Rotten's lyrics are poor i don't know. What kind of lyrics do you think are good really? Is his music to deep for you? Or do you not understand what he says?

[madness]

Certain man don't like grime unless it's hype an raw an even though i'm not the same i can understand and respect that.

[Joe]

wheres me, my blanket and my studio?

[*Layzie*]

Rotten is a fucking madman.
Any guys who thinks hes a average producer just listen to dis beat one of his simplest beats and yet its fucking mad.

a-2Asx8qYdk


...and say if u think u cud have made suttin like it.

People dat like dots music says hes far from overrated ppl who dislike him say he is overrated.

couldnt find original of the beat so its looped anyway

[TRU_G]

I said this in a topic a while ago and got torn apart and called a groupie

Hold tite forum pricks

Dot is effed

[Woodwormz]

never really seen the dot hype. if anything man tries too hard to be wiley
str8 fail.

[madness]

wheres me, my blanket and my studio?

Swear that's the album, Something Out Of Nothing is meant the be the next release which is a double disk.... apparently.

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

How you could ever say Dot Rotten's lyrics are poor i don't know. What kind of lyrics do you think are good really? Is his music to deep for you? Or do you not understand what he says?

all im saying is, you annoys me, his lyrics aint deep, they just are occasionally about something, get it right next time

[Seven]

100% c/s with hij
dots my fave mc atm, dont chat shh >> - gets me 2 hyped - titb was big. rip was also sick. industry hoe, come on dot is a sick all rounder and consistet that eski dub he did was alot as well hes produced so many bangers and hes got his own unique sound like wileys got the eski

listen to that set with griminal and tiny when dot comes in the last 15mins and duppies
levels dot is top 3

[Curphey]

Rotten isn't overrated, he's got the potential to be the K.O.G imo.

Sick beats, bars and is marketable.

[Curphey]

And Dirty South Salute>>>

[Norf London Grimestar]

Dot rotten is so fucked... could be better than wiley in a couple of years

[RJKV]

all im saying is, you annoys me, his lyrics aint deep, they just are occasionally about something, get it right next time

lol so when dot does songs like Get Out Of The Hood, 3rd Eye and They Ain't Seen Shit (i've heard the preview but i know that will be a deep tune) you telling me they aren't deep, they ain't just about money and stabbing and shooting. Dot spits about stuff alot deeper then that like poverty etc etc

[Revolution]

Dot Rotten iz fucked....

He has da potential to put grime on2 da next level...

Beats, barz and engineering are all hard...

[Channel_E-D]

"i'm not like an ice cube with breaks on it - you won't find me stoppin and chillin"

One of the worst bars I've heard! I prefer his beats to be honest, but he's ok.

As I was reading I was about to say that was the most rubbish bar ever why would you quote it lol but then I read your second bit

[Channel_E-D]

n/s but this sounds ignorant.

Listen to some freestyles on youtube or when you're bored give TITB a chance.

Then from there you can decide if you want to cop RIP Y Dot.

Yeah of course, I'm not saying I'm never gonna listen to him though. Like I said I just haven't really bothered thats all, will download his free thing then and have a listen.

[Dan-91]

Probably my favourite MC/Producer. Tracks off R.I.P Young Dot & This Is The Beggining still get played to this day.
Definatley has the potential to become a legend in the scene, his beats mirror his lyrics perfectly, emotional.
Would be nice to hear a few more hype tracks from him like 'Is It War' though.

[Nokia]

I only have This Is The Beginning and R.I.P Young Dot on my iPod.
Oh and "Talking The Hardest" in Dot Rotten - Other.

Are there any more CD's / Mixtapes from Dot?
(vocal not instrumental)
Or songs that aren't attached to any projects worth a listen?

[Dan-91]

@ Nokia;

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[Hold Tight King]

you can beat me and test me no chance try eat me in e3 ill pull out the streezy out and make eskimo dance >>>>>>>>>>>

.

[Nine Bar]

dot rotten is the future of the grime scene tbh.

only a few of the new generation of emcees with immense talent

Yeh this tbh.

[Pred]

MCs don't bother me is a sick track.

[Joe]

MCs don't bother me is a sick track.

i was just listening to this! whats that sample at the start?

[Retrofreak]

"I've been analyzing the Grime scene fam"

[Joe]

"its full of fakers and fronters"

[Alter E-ghost]

i was just listening to this! whats that sample at the start?

boondocks

[Joe]

safe g

[Pred]

Talks a lot of truths about London society as well. People should be forced to listen to this track.

[madness]

"I've analyzed the Grime scene fam"

Had 2 fix it, it was buggin me... had too many syllables in it lol.

[Joe]

grown ups who act like youngers

[joeking]

Dot is sick

mc >>>

beats >>>

[Rhymes.]

everyone talks about "the system" but dot is the only one whos stands out tbh. i was bangin out RIP Young Dot every day, it was fucked. Did he get brought in? No. Done it all himself.

[Rhymes.]

Everyone in the scene was waiting to hear a track like 3rd Eye, and that got to so many peoples minds.

[Revolution]

He is da future

[Grimes]

everyone talks about "the system" but dot is the only one whos stands out tbh. i was bangin out RIP Young Dot every day, it was fucked. Did he get brought in? No. Done it all himself.

he got brought through fam

everyone's had help

[Revolution]

he got brought through fam

everyone's had help

Tru stories... Everyone's had help, its fucked

[Spitzos]

he got brought through fam

everyone's had help

kno he never
his beats got him herd

[Alter E-ghost]

kno he never
his beats got him herd

mmm yes
then he was brought through

[nothelevels]

lol at thinkin he will be on wiley levels

[nothelevels]

never thaty but he s good

[Revolution]

lol at thinkin he will be on wiley levels

Y not?

[Dan-91]

Wiley signing him to Eski-Beat got him recognized, then when he left & done war dubs for Wiley people started taking more notice, but since then his MC'ing/Production has only got better.

[Revolution]

Wiley signing him to Eski-Beat got him recognized, then when he left & done war dubs for Wiley people started taking more notice, but since then his MC'ing/Production has only got better.

Tru stories

[The Don]

about eskibeat made dot psshhhh.

on a side note though eskibeats original roster was too much though, dot ice dee chip mav will slash and singers could've done so much.

there was one sick dot and brutal tune i've lost over the brand new day beat from boy in da corner, can't find it on youtube or nothing but it was sick.

"it's not all about currency, new trainers, or where you live currently"

[Dan-91]

Lol I'm not saying it made him, I rated him from This Is The Beggining times, but the average grime listener would of only realy known Dot Rotten/Young Dot for 'Bazooka', 'Bassline Massacre' ect.
Yeah the tunes called 'There's More To Life', can't seem to find it on youtube either lol.

[The Don]

that's the one. sick. and nah i still dunno about what it done for him tbh, was only in it for like 2 weeks aswell lol.

[Dan-91]

Lol true, but him, Maniac & Bless Beats all got a interview in RWD magazine, which no doubt got his face out there a bit more.
Shame Eski-Beat flopped tbh, if all the artists/producers who were originally in it worked on a CD together it would of been a lot.

[Rhymes.]

yeah but on a real, dot actually worked hard to get where he is... Bein brought in is like if your from the same ends as someone but you dont even have a mixtape and you get on westwood with them... shit like that is bein brought in, coz you havent done no major work to get there, dot got 2 HARD mixtapes out there, one of them was for free so thats even more work..

[One Cunt]

yeah but on a real, dot actually worked hard to get where he is... Bein brought in is like if your from the same ends as someone but you dont even have a mixtape and you get on westwood with them... shit like that is bein brought in, coz you havent done no major work to get there, dot got 2 HARD mixtapes out there, one of them was for free so thats even more work..

plus Rotten Riddims Vol 1-6...

and all the ep's he had before...

so yeah hes put in work

[Christ The Redeemer]

dot rotten is possibly the best talent in grime when u consider he makes bangin beats and all his multis are fucked

[Andre]

everyone talks about "the system" but dot is the only one whos stands out tbh. i was bangin out RIP Young Dot every day, it was fucked. Did he get brought in? No. Done it all himself.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/1586357113_ee389d2658.jpg

[Wiz]

Wasn't Young Dot in Essentials?

[The Messiah]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/1586357113_ee389d2658.jpg

And? Even if you are a bring in, you've still got to have the talent. I can't rememeber that far back, but Wiley could have been a bringin in the Jungle scence where he first started.

Anyway I agree with Hij. Not Wiley times 2 because Wiley is Wiley. But Wiley Mk II.

[Grimes]

theres no doubt about dots talent, but anyone in the scene to say they done it all themselves is silly.

[Andre]

And? Even if you are a bring in, you've still got to have the talent. I can't rememeber that far back, but Wiley could have been a bringin in the Jungle scence where he first started.

Anyway I agree with Hij. Not Wiley times 2 because Wiley is Wiley. But Wiley Mk II.

you missed my point but dont lose any sleep

[One Cunt]

about eskibeat made dot psshhhh.

on a side note though eskibeats original roster was too much though, dot ice dee chip mav will slash and singers could've done so much.

there was one sick dot and brutal tune i've lost over the brand new day beat from boy in da corner, can't find it on youtube or nothing but it was sick.

"it's not all about currency, new trainers, or where you live currently"

init

the most bullshit ive ever heard...dot was known before eskibeat

and da tune is called theres more to life

[One Cunt]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/1586357113_ee389d2658.jpg

just out of interest...when was this pic taken

[Grimes]

bazooka got him big

[One Cunt]

bazooka got him big

.

and its not like someone made that beat for him...so as far as im concerened he got himself big...yes he did have some support...but compared to the likes of chipmunk (got brought to westwood) he done alot more work...dot already has wiley like power...he went on westwood and brought all those people (voltage, werewolf, etc...) from then on voltage started going westwood and bringing people...its a cycle really...

[Rhymes.]

ait ait you could say he got brought in
but who hasnt been brought in and does grime?
most rappers were brought in by Dre..
theres gotta be someone who runs the industry

[One Cunt]

ait ait you could say he got brought in
but who hasnt been brought in and does grime?
most rappers were brought in by Dre..
theres gotta be someone who runs the industry

lol are you sayin wiley runs the industry yh

[Torchy]

All rounder with a high work rate that's a bit mad. Rotten could be Wiley's long lost son for all the similarities. On the same levels? Probably not yet, but Rotten is improving scarily quickly.

[One Cunt]

All rounder with a high work rate that's a bit mad. Rotten could be Wiley's long lost son for all the similarities. On the same levels? Probably not yet, but Rotten is improving scarily quickly.

real talk

Look how long it took Wiley to get where he is now...Dot is only 20....And he's close to being on Wiley's level, if not better. Wiley is 30 for god's sake...guy needs to retire...

[Grimes]

chipmunk had done 2mixtapes to be honest by the time wiley gave him the co-sign.

so he did kinda deserve

[The Don]

chipmunk had done 2mixtapes to be honest by the time wiley gave him the co-sign.

so he did kinda deserve

this.

even though i don't rate the guy no more he had put in work prior to the wiley bring in. and his second cd was imo his best; again before william.

everybody gets a helping hand somehow, whether it's a masssive underserved bring in is another question.

[One Cunt]

chipmunk had done 2mixtapes to be honest by the time wiley gave him the co-sign.

so he did kinda deserve

yh but he was well known until westwood....Dot got well known with no help...bazooka started getting played on radio..No wiley help needed...

[Grimes]

we all get brought in, in some way. The grime scene is really just a big network of emcees, dj's and producers.

[Equilibrium]

kno he never
his beats got him herd

davinche gave dot his sounds g, he didnt just get help from wiley

[Grimes]

yh but he was well known until westwood....Dot got well known with no help...bazooka started getting played on radio..No wiley help needed...

bazooka was getting co-signed by e3 entertainment

tbh, Chipmunk was on Westwood's Radio one show even before he had a 1xtra slot.

It is also questionable about Chipmunk's popularity before wiley which you are affirming. Chipmunk had been on Logan's show before Wiley brought him in you know.

Chipmunk was well known in North as well, His first mixtape was hosted by Sway. I've known about him since his shoddy crew days on heat fm.

[Foggy Man]

"My Co-D gave me a bring in
Got moved to a few time's now it's straight swingin'"

[Andre]

lol are you sayin wiley runs the industry yh

well to be fair if wiley started biggin up a little known mc everyone on here would check him out

[Grimes]

wiley pratically does tbh.

he's connected to more emcees tham ross kemp (yeah i know that bar makes no sense without the word gang"

[Andre]

connected to more mcs than logan sama

[ukson]

im a leader >>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Inferno187]

dot rotten aint no wiley 2 cuz they are good in diffrent areas n they are not similar

[t.paul]

no no no no hes not the next wiley hhes not even da best yunga so no but yh hes good but ur over ratin him 4 sure

[Wiz]

no no no no hes not the next wiley hhes not even da best yunga so no but yh hes good but ur over ratin him 4 sure
he's not a younger

[Dan-91]

Dot Rotten & P Money, future of grime, snm.

[Crawla III.]

he's bare overated
.

[sa'id]

just saw a few comments from people not feelin RIP young dot. It's one of my fav. gime records ... seriously give it another chance.

[One Cunt]

Dot Rotten is the biological father of grime.

[LC1]

dot rotten ain't the next wiley but lately he's fucking impressing me big time.

he has the essence of what grime is about, he is a talented spitter but the beats he makes esp have that randomness and gully energy in them. the beats with the random bleeps and drum patterns, the cleverand gully bars etc etc


the people that still have this are dizzee even on maths and english there was that essence of what i'm sayin, trim, newham generals and dot rotten.

[Fulker]

If Dot wants to become the next Wiley he needs to put more effort in when he spits. He is good but he comes across as big headed. No-one can be as influential in the grime scene as Wiley.

[Revolution]

Dot Rotten & P Money, future of grime, snm.

Dot not p money

[One Cunt]

Dot not p money

.

[Quality Control]

P-Money's a better spitter than Dot and the best tunes on P-Money Is Power are better than the best tunes on R.I.P. Young Dot

[Hij]

P-Money's a better spitter than Dot and the best tunes on P-Money Is Power are better than the best tunes on R.I.P. Young Dot
P Money is one dimensional though

[One Cunt]

P-Money's a better spitter than Dot and the best tunes on P-Money Is Power are better than the best tunes on R.I.P. Young Dot

:stunned:

[One Cunt]

P Money is one dimensional though

.

[Quality Control]

P Money is one dimensional though

he's got a masterful flow

Dot is above average in everything but a master of nothing

personally i'd listen to a new P-Money release over a new Dot one any day

EDIT: not to mention P-Money is way better on sets

[One Cunt]

he's got a masterful flow

Dot is above average in everything but a master of nothing

personally i'd listen to a new P-Money release over a new Dot one any day

EDIT: not to mention P-Money is way better on sets

agree p-money is better on sets...

but you cant say that dot aint a master of flow & bars...

even so that really aint the point because when you look at the 'best' spitters to have blessed grime...none of them are masters with flow...wiley would just be another mc if he didnt fund grime...could of easily been another mc....look at dizzee, titch, kano...none of which are on par with most mcs lyrically nowdays...grime has changed...its alot more metaphoric and alot deeper than it used to be...

[Quality Control]

agree p-money is better on sets...

but you cant say that dot aint a master of flow & bars...

even so that really aint the point because when you look at the 'best' spitters to have blessed grime...none of them are masters with flow...wiley would just be another mc if he didnt fund grime...could of easily been another mc....look at dizzee, titch, kano...none of which are on par with most mcs lyrically nowdays...grime has changed...its alot more metaphoric and alot deeper than it used to be...

sorry fam but that's nonsense

Wiley has a wholey individual flow and rides grime tracks like no other
Dizzee has everything a grime MC needs
Kano has a pretty advanced flow on his day, more hip-hopish but impressive
Titch is pure hype, pure entertainment

all of the aforementioned artists are leagues ahead of Dot

[Revolution]

agree p-money is better on sets...

but you cant say that dot aint a master of flow & bars...

even so that really aint the point because when you look at the 'best' spitters to have blessed grime...none of them are masters with flow...wiley would just be another mc if he didnt fund grime...could of easily been another mc....look at dizzee, titch, kano...none of which are on par with most mcs lyrically nowdays...grime has changed...its alot more metaphoric and alot deeper than it used to be...

Ye man, da levels r way high now

[Equilibrium]

wiley would just be another mc if he didnt fund grime...could of easily been another mc....look at dizzee, titch, kano...none of which are on par with most mcs lyrically nowdays...grime has changed...its alot more metaphoric and alot deeper than it used to be...

wow, i literally just choked on my own breath.

[Revolution]

wow, i literally just choked on my own breath.

lol

[Quality Control]

wow, i literally just choked on my own breath.

get me. there's at least 3 things very wrong with that sentence lol.

[CardinalFang2]

agree p-money is better on sets...

but you cant say that dot aint a master of flow & bars...

even so that really aint the point because when you look at the 'best' spitters to have blessed grime...none of them are masters with flow...wiley would just be another mc if he didnt fund grime...could of easily been another mc....look at dizzee, titch, kano...none of which are on par with most mcs lyrically nowdays...grime has changed...its alot more metaphoric and alot deeper than it used to be...

shocking. wiley has a completely fucked flow. if youve heard him since pay as you go days surely you would know he could never have been another MC. all those MCs you listed have sick flows. dot is good but hes monotone. too much of him and id fall asleep. its his fucked beats which keep me listening.

and who gives a shit about deep metaphors? grime is about flow and hype...

[Grimes]

do people know what monotone means?

i'm sorry if dot voice isn't as mesmirising like wileys shit.

safe to people saying about flow and hype init and fuck lyrics.

cardinal fang you are fucking idiot.

go listen to nu brand flex talk about cheese and kissing coughs

[Dan-91]

Lol Dot hasn't mastered barring or production yet, don't get me wrong, he's one of the best in the scene, but to say he's mastered it is a big statement.
I'm expecting a lot from Something Out Of Nothing, it could be the CD of the year IMO, only threats I can see to this is Ghetts' album & P Money's next CD.
As for the P Money vs. Dot Rotten debate, for bars P Money is way ahead, but Dot makes better tunes, so it's hard to say who's better?
Lol @ you saying Wiley would be any other MC if he didn't find grime, clueless guy. As for Kano & Dizzee, they've both moved away from grime, so you can't really say they'd be any other MC either in this day & age, I believe if they stayed grime throughout their career's they'd be on Wiley's level/status.

[CardinalFang2]

i think newbie grime listeners are taking over. real (old school) grime seems to have been forgotten about.

[Revolution]

Dots fuckd,

[Grimes]

i think newbie grime listeners are taking over. real (old school) grime seems to have been forgotten about.

faggit.

you chat shit.

[Revolution]

i think newbie grime listeners are taking over. real (old school) grime seems to have been forgotten about.

No way cuz, dots changing da sound of grime as a genre

[Revolution]

Grime can't stay da same,

[Quality Control]

No way cuz, dots changing da sound of grime as a genre

what? no he's not. elaborate

and also state what he's changing it into

[CardinalFang2]

cardinal fang you are fucking idiot.



well spelt


*claps*

[Grimes]

well spelt


*claps*

you faggit,

yet you can't tell the difference between a syntax mistake and a spelling mistake.

[Dan-91]

Lol all you grime fans holding onto the past need to let go, seriously.
Grime is changing, don't like it? Listen to something else.

[Revolution]

what? no he's not. elaborate

and also state what he's changing it into

More accurate wud b 2 say, he's helping 2 evolve da sound of grime....

[Quality Control]

More accurate wud b 2 say, he's helping 2 evolve da sound of grime....

evolve into.....

[Revolution]

Lol all you grime fans holding onto the past need to let go, seriously.
Grime is changing, don't like it? Listen to something else.

Exactlly, its mad, but i fink Dots part of da change

[Grimes]

too many faggits,

if music never progressed and changed, grime wouldn't even fucking exist.

[Quality Control]

too many faggits,

if music never progressed and changed, grime wouldn't even fucking exist.

it's changing into something that already exists and is already far more advanced than "grime" could ever be

it's fair enough evolving while remaining individual with a unique selling point. but that's not the case

[Dan-91]

too many faggits,

if music never progressed and changed, grime wouldn't even fucking exist.
.

[Dan-91]

To say Dot is changing the whole scene single handed is ott, but he's definatley part of the new wave of MC's/producers who will take over the scene in the next few years.

[CardinalFang2]

you faggit,

yet you can't tell the difference between a syntax mistake and a spelling mistake.

my point was, the only thing you did right in that sentence was the spelling, hence the clapping. you owned yourself with the syntax. if youre going to try and par me, at least try and construct a sentence correctly. try again?

[Revolution]

evolve into.....

I dunno, wot in2, we'll soon c, mayb anotha genre, or perhaps, jst bring grime on2 da next level

[Revolution]

To say Dot is changing the whole scene single handed is ott, but he's definatley part of the new wave of MC's/producers who will take over the scene in the next few years.

Not single handedly, but havin mor influence dan many others

[Grimes]

my point was, the only thing you did right in that sentence was the spelling, hence the clapping. you owned yourself with the syntax. if youre going to try and par me, at least try and construct a sentence correctly. try again?

aite seen suck your mum init.

i ain't got time for your elaborate sarcasm.

i'll par u writing lyk how i w8nt fa99it

fight me init.

[Dan-91]

I dunno, wot in2, we'll soon c, mayb anotha genre, or perhaps, jst bring grime on2 da next level
Lol I don't think grime can evolve into another genre, grime is grime, the name of the genre represents the music for what it is. How is one guy going to change the whole scene? Ok, Wiley founded grime, but it wouldn't of been nothing if the D Double's, Kano's, Dizzee's, didn't jump on it IMO. I can't see Dot creating a new genre when his music is grime anyway.

[Revolution]

aite seen suck your mum init.

i ain't got time for your elaborate sarcasm.

i'll par u writing lyk how i w8nt fa99it

fight me init.

lol,

[Dan-91]

Not single handedly, but havin mor influence dan many others
Ok cool, name who else is going to change the scene + most importantley, change it into what?

[CardinalFang2]

aite seen suck your mum init.

i ain't got time for your elaborate sarcasm.

i'll par u writing lyk how i w8nt fa99it

fight me init.

cool. your time means nothing to me. i never asked you to quote me and type like spastic.

[Revolution]

Lol I don't think grime can evolve into another genre, grime is grime, the name of the genre represents the music for what it is. How is one guy going to change the whole scene? Ok, Wiley founded grime, but it wouldn't of been nothing if the D Double's, Kano's, Dizzee's, didn't jump on it IMO. I can't see Dot creating a new genre when his music is grime anyway.

ye definatly, ur missin da point Dot is not doing it by himself, but he is part of this evolution, however he has mor influence than many others do. Therefore not evolving it on his own,