Ghetto - Freedom of Speech (Out of 10)

[GrimePays]

cant be fucked readin through pages of opinions so vote.

or merge the poll into the other thread

[Joe]

commandments, unsigned hype, mountain and whos got featuring wiley all good songs but the rest 6

[HuddzDon]

i voted 9

mixtape is overly fukd probz 2 tunes that are gd but not on the levels of the rest but deffinatly guna get rinsed

[I Can See You]

I voted 9.

[Retrofreak]

I voted 7 out of 10.

As it's good ,but is lacking innovation, versatility and hooks.

[Demos]

6

[RIP Jakey]

really wanted to come on and say this was sick u's r all dumb for hating it, but except for the stuff i'd heard before it werent all tht

[RISKY!]

http://grimeshit.blogspot.com/2008/03/riskys-rateing-of-gheto-freedom-of.html

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

see

whats a par is

only 25 copies got out

how has everyone heard it?


hmmmmmm u downloaders u!

[shakabeatz]

it was pretty big

i was surprised wiv the mercston freestyle aswell

call me dumb.... but i swear there was meant to be a track called live in da booth, prod by lewi white?

[grafta]

10/10

[S Dot Beatz.]

it was pretty big

i was surprised wiv the mercston freestyle aswell

call me dumb.... but i swear there was meant to be a track called live in da booth, prod by lewi white?

Mr. Slash

[Entity]

9/10, and I haven't even listened to it nearly as much as I would have liked yet. I was in bed listenin to it through the headphones last night, and some tunes are too crazy. Sometimes Ghetto's voice sounds like a demon, the production work on his voice at times is amazing, with some great effects going on. I wouldn't even like to give a rating with only one day of listening, and to the users giving this 5/10 etc, ask yourself if you can remember more than a few bars from a couple of songs from this mixtape, then consider if you've listened to it properly. Because I don't know how you can't get a hype listening to this, it's fire. The only criticism I would give, is the fact only Lewi White has produced almost all the tunes which means Ghetto doesn't deviate from that style that much. But saying that, it's worked extremely well because their styles go hand in hand. I also love the fact Lewi White has used samples from Resident Evil and Final Fantasy 6 that I clocked. (Convo with a cabbie + How it is)

This CD turns me skeng when I listen to it, how any of you can listen to 'Buss 1' and not get hype is beyond me. I almost started ramping with randoms on the way to uni when I was listenin through Ipod.

[Force 1[DTM]]

9/10


;46942']see

whats a par is

only 25 copies got out

how has everyone heard it?


hmmmmmm u downloaders u!

Yeh i did and i cant wait for it to drop in hmv coz im going straight there!

[Royal-T]

;46942']see

whats a par is

only 25 copies got out

how has everyone heard it?


hmmmmmm u downloaders u!

i was about to say dat.

[Ghost45]

Had this for a couple weeks, 6 or 7 out of 10 so much better than scorchers cd.

Starts off with a bang but gets less hype after The Mountain, First 9 tracks are bangers, think it could have been a little bit better with more time but big mixtpae none the less!!!

[RISKY!]

like it or not everyone download... you wanna support the scene by buying it but if its there & easy to download you would.
once you download its up to you as a fan [of the artist & scene] if you go out and buy it

[Technician]

i dont like it 2 much there is no outstanding production for me on that cd lewi white is good but i expected more from him then this i give this a 6

[Green City]

8/10

[badaman 1]

y do people even download it...u shud support,if ur a real grime fan, true talk

[abass]

/\ i downloaded it but im gonna go hmv on monday an if they got it im deffinately buyin it.

[shakabeatz]

Mr. Slash
safe


y do people even download it...u shud support,if ur a real grime fan, true talk

i liked it so im gonna buy

[Pristine Condition]

i dont like it 2 much there is no outstanding production for me on that cd lewi white is good but i expected more from him then this i give this a 6

5*

(i new dis wud b a let down, every1 hyped it 2much i reckon)

[Tony Starks]

i pre-ordered from uptown so should be gettin mine soonish.
Whoever voted 1 / 10 can you cum and at least explain that decision cos it seems that compared to everyone else your ears arent functioning well.

[Jay]

5*

(i new dis wud b a let down, every1 hyped it 2much i reckon)

on a real mountian was by far the best track on this, got me expecting a lot more from this than i got, dont get me wrong this is a good mixtape, but noway is the the great mixtape that i was hoping it would be.

this may have been better if they followed the ep route

[abass]

/\ all down 2 opinions i personally dont even like mountain much

[Tony Starks]

commandments>>>>>>>>>>anything that has come from ghettos mouth

[screwface]

commandments>>>>>>>>>>anything that has come from ghettos mouth

couldnt agree more :D

[Tickbites]

Lol At Ghetts At The End Of Buss 1 Loool.
Ghetto Angry >>>>
Some People Can Never Be Happy Judging From Some Of The Reviews Man. Its a good CD so Its A Cop.

[RIP Jakey]

I'm coppin its worth the money but it aint the classic i wanted.

[Major]

I voted 7 out of 10.

As it's good ,but is lacking innovation, versatility and hooks.

defo lackin versatility but what do you expect when the only producer is lewi white !

[Retrofreak]

defo lackin versatility but what do you expect when the only producer is lewi white !

I have a problem with the writing more than the beats.
I think the track order could have been better,so the CD had more hype in the beginning.
I find it boring at the start, the CD kicks in from Track 4 "Threats", stay's hype for a minute and then tappers off into Ghetto Gospel.
I think "Ghost Town" has the best hook on the CD ,but it sounds too much like "Murder music" to my ears.
Ghetto's lack of song writing,shouting and lack of honesty have stopped me from marking this down as a classic.
I find the whole tuff guy routine tedious.
I think it's a good CD ,but it's not the levels I was expecting from someone so talented.
All this talk of "going to the mountain's" and you didn't bring back a decent song or hook, just angry rave bars screamed in a demonic fashion.

That's why I gave it 7/10.

[Nine Bar]

commandments>>>>>>>>>>anything that has come from ghettos mouth

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[4737]

I have a problem with the writing more than the beats.
I think the track order could have been better,so the CD had more hype in the beginning.
I find it boring at the start, the CD kicks in from Track 4 "Threats", stay's hype for a minute and then tappers off into Ghetto Gospel.
I think "Ghost Town" has the best hook on the CD ,but it sounds too much like "Murder music" to my ears.
Ghetto's lack of song writing,shouting and lack of honesty have stopped me from marking this down as a classic.
I find the whole tuff guy routine tedious.
I think it's a good CD ,but it's not the levels I was expecting from someone so talented.
All this talk of "going to the mountain's" and you didn't bring back a decent song or hook, just angry rave bars screamed in a demonic fashion.

That's why I gave it 7/10.

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i'll add though, that the production on this is pretty large. the absence of good hooks/writing is the biggest letdown. anyone else spot that resident evil music on 'conversation with a cabbie'?

t.

[Quality Control]

"I find it boring at the start, the CD kicks in from Track 4 "Threats", stay's hype for a minute and then tappers off into Ghetto Gospel."

..i haven't listened to the whole thing but i swear Commandments is track 1 and Darkside Freestyle is track 3.. if you don't like them then something's wrong..

[R-Style]

buss 1 deserves a 10/10

overall i giv it a strong 9

played it throughout on ma way 2 work. i can standerdly say im gonna b pumpin this 4 a long long time

[Retrofreak]

"I find it boring at the start, the CD kicks in from Track 4 "Threats", stay's hype for a minute and then tappers off into Ghetto Gospel."

..i haven't listened to the whole thing but i swear Commandments is track 1 and Darkside Freestyle is track 3.. if you don't like them then something's wrong..

I like those tracks, I just don't like the placement as the first few tracks feel slow and boring (together).
I would have placed them later on the CD so the album had a bit more pace from the get go.

[Quality Control]

..and people always go on about Ghetto's hooks but from the tunes i've heard off FoS so far the hooks have been good.. i noticed people never mention the hooks on Axiom E.P. and that is pretty much universally agreed as a 9/10+ but there are still some weak hooks.. the crazy frog one on License To Skill, Ny's boring one on Give Me The Music & the slow down thing on Axiom.. that's 1/3 of the CD..

..to me the priorities should be: lyrics(flow, content, concepts)>>beats>>hooks..

[Retrofreak]

..and people always go on about Ghetto's hooks but from the tunes i've heard off FoS so far the hooks have been good.. i noticed people never mention the hooks on Axiom E.P. and that is pretty much universally agreed as a 9/10+ but there are still some weak hooks.. the crazy frog one on License To Skill, Ny's boring one on Give Me The Music & the slow down thing on Axiom.. that's 1/3 of the CD..

..to me the priorities should be: lyrics(flow, content, concepts)>>beats>>hooks..

That's your opinion and that's cool, but for me I think all tracks should be attacked differently depending on the desired effect.

Sometimes you can make the verses hooky,other times it's the chorus.
The tracks you mentioned from Axiom EP where concept tracks and the one that slows down was a straight slewage tune (without a chorus).
Every track was radically different from the last and sequenced well.

I think "Mountains" and "Ghost Town" have the best hooks on the CD.
I just feel that the CD could have been sequenced better and in hindsight maybe they should of held back on "Mountains or Who's got" as there's not many tracks to top them on CD, so it feels like a bit of an anti climax.

[BananaMan]

Ghettos Verse on "Threats" >>>>>>>>________
106%

Angry Ghetts is alot

[Steez]

it was pretty big

i was surprised wiv the mercston freestyle aswell

call me dumb.... but i swear there was meant to be a track called live in da booth, prod by lewi white?
Yea there was, or at least it was on Logan's show a while ago ... but I think Lewi MIGHT be doing his own thing aswell so it might be on that ...

[Steez]

Mr. Slash
No, that was the old one sampling the 2000 n life intro. The new vocal is a next tune.

[Steez]

defo lackin versatility but what do you expect when the only producer is lewi white !
That's exactly why the 1 producer thing is a bad idea.

[whats_the_score?]

my CD better be on the way!

[Quality Control]

my CD better be on the way!

..i know.. i feel left out.. everyone and their nan has downloaded it already and i'm sitting here waiting for my CD to arrive..

[adidasgrandad]

..i know.. i feel left out.. everyone and the milkmans nan has downloaded it already and i'm sitting here waiting for my CD to arrive..

same

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

same

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['nuum general]

..i know.. i feel left out.. everyone and their nan has downloaded it already

bet half the people who downloaded don't buy it as well.

[Steez]

bet half the people who downloaded don't buy it as well.
It's not worth an hours wage lol

['nuum general]

i think its ok, its not up to the hype its had but its more consistent than Ghetto Gospel. Just not as much grime on it as i hoped

[Steez]

i think its ok, its not up to the hype its had but its more consistent than Ghetto Gospel. Just not as much grime on it as i hoped
I preferred Gospel, the variance in production made it worthwhile. The tracks were more varied aswell.

Some of FoS is sick, the flow and the anger. But some of it is crap.

['nuum general]

i think the best tracks on ghetto gospel are better than the best on fos, but similarly the worst tracks on ghetto gospel are worse than the worst on fos.

fos i'll listen to as an album whereas ghetto gospel i only listen to certain tracks

[Entity]

It's not worth an hours wage lol
If FOS isn't, there must only be a few mixtapes worth an hours wage then.

[whats_the_score?]

Well thanks alot HMV my copy hasn't even been dispatched yet, but I'll still stick with the order.

*cancels Riko - the truth*

[me!!!]

The reviews seem to say either, whatever the general view of the forum one thing is clear and that's the fact that I obviously isn't amazing and has not lived up to the hype. For some reason I was under the impression that this and simply the best 2 were going to be pure grime due to the reviews that they have both received on previous releases and the general opinion of their choice of music they spit on.

We listen to grime not fucking hip hop, there is no way that ANYONE in the scene is going to get EVERYONE to highly rate their cd if its not 100% grime, this is our music, hip hop is not, stay true to the music and you will find it hard to go wrong.

Look at prez t, I thought before he was shit but now I have come to find his style not bad and fucking grimey and he puts out a 100% grime cd and the general feeling was that it was a fairly good release, it has to be grime, this half half shit aint cutting it IMO!

[adidasgrandad]

Well thanks alot HMV my copy hasn't even been dispatched yet, but I'll still stick with the order.

*cancels Riko - the truth*

it says on the website that they dispatch pre orders in advance so that you get it on the day of release. if i dont get mine tomorrow im gonna be pissed that i have to wait still lol
it might just be, though, that they havent updated the status of your order because its a sunday and noone works?

[Steez]

If FOS isn't, there must only be a few mixtapes worth an hours wage then.
True. Depends on personal opinion. And how hard your work is. I'm scrooge, £6 is a lot to spend on a crap CD lol

[Steez]

i think the best tracks on ghetto gospel are better than the best on fos, but similarly the worst tracks on ghetto gospel are worse than the worst on fos.

fos i'll listen to as an album whereas ghetto gospel i only listen to certain tracks
Interesting point. I like it. I have to consider what will hot up my iTunes playlist for longest though - the best of FOS or GG. The crap is crap, either way.

And I'm the opposite, a couple of FOS tracks might get playlisted, only one so far, whereas a few GG got playlisted.

Rick Ross's new album dropped a day or two later and that has already been hammered more than FOS.

[Steez]

it says on the website that they dispatch pre orders in advance so that you get it on the day of release. if i dont get mine tomorrow im gonna be pissed that i have to wait still lol
it might just be, though, that they havent updated the status of your order because its a sunday and noone works?
They won't have dispatched it on a sunday either though, no post. But truesay about the update, they might just do that when the tracking numbers are confirmed or whatever.

[adidasgrandad]

They won't have dispatched it on a sunday either though, no post. But truesay about the update, they might just do that when the tracking numbers are confirmed or whatever.

they better have dispatched it on saturday then lol otherwise whats the point in a pre order?

[whats_the_score?]

They should of sent it on Saturaday surely? oh I dunno!

[Young Spray]

Well, Well, Just Got It.


Buss 1's
Threats
Darkside
Convo With Cabby
Who's Got

These Stood Out Immediately.

What Happedned To 'when The Things Come Out'????

I'd Give This 8.5/ Out Of 10 Easy.

I Bet U His Album Aint As Good As This.

[I Can See You]

I pre-ordered from HMV and it hasn't come..

[Heavyweight]

7/10

commandments, darkside, threats, who's got, mountain, convo with a cabbie are all big tunes

[out there]

Well, Well, Just Got It.


Buss 1's
Threats
Darkside
Convo With Cabby
Who's Got

These Stood Out Immediately.

What Happedned To 'when The Things Come Out'????

I'd Give This 8.5/ Out Of 10 Easy.

I Bet U His Album Aint As Good As This.

yh dats wot i woz tinkin
dat tune large aswell...

[adidasgrandad]

got this today...
its alot grimier than i thought it was gonna be. its the closest thing to an album as your gonna get with a mixtape.
it actually has that album feel bout it.
the presentation of the cd impressed me too. not just a cd case and a two page booklet. it all helps.

with the exception of 'unsigned hype' (fuck off lightnin your not getting signed) and 'the ghetto' i like almost every track

ghost town is a huge tune

8/10

[out there]

commandments...buss 1..mountains..darksidee biggest tunes on deya i tink

[Indyvidual]

got this today...
its alot grimier than i thought it was gonna be. its the closest thing to an album as your gonna get with a mixtape.
it actually has that album feel bout it.
the presentation of the cd impressed me too. not just a cd case and a two page booklet. it all helps.

with the exception of 'unsigned hype' (fuck off lightnin your not getting signed) and 'the ghetto' i like almost every track

ghost town is a huge tune

8/10

Real talk! Im also feelin fake mcs... massive track, dont like the ghetto either

[adidasgrandad]

im loving the more dubsteppy productions

[4737]

im hoping this grows on me, because im really not feeling it too tuff.

t.

[dominic*]

8.5

[whats_the_score?]

im hoping this grows on me, because im really not feeling it too tuff.

t.

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Listened to it a twice now and it's ok... I shall continue to listen though.

[ZDOT]

6, i thought some of the productions on there was too similar and were below par, brothers in arms, unsigned hype and a few other tracks on there are doin alot tho...

[MedellinManDem]

Ghetto Gospel >>>>> this...

Don't know what he was doing with production from just Lewi White and Smasher...

['nuum general]

Ghetto Gospel >>>>> this...

Don't know what he was doing with production from just Lewi White and Smasher...

not for me, ghetto gospel was inconsistant & disjointed. FOS feels is fairly consistant to me

[Quality Control]

..8 or 9 out of 10 depending on what mood i'm in when i listen, in the top tier of grime mixCDs ever and definitely got me fienin for his album..

[bailey_187]

6, i thought some of the productions on there was too similar and were below par, brothers in arms, unsigned hype and a few other tracks on there are doin alot tho...

2 of the worst tracks on there...

not that there shit or anything there just not that good IMO

[Jae Dave]

7/10

best tracks [in no order]


- "who's got" (luv this track)
- "buss 1" (this tune is gettin' a piece overrated though)
- "convo with the cabbie" (nice concept)
- "how it is" (decent track)
- "unsigned hype" (FOS needed a few more tracks like this)

[Jae Dave]

Ghetto Gospel >>>>> this...

Don't know what he was doing with production from just Lewi White and Smasher...

get me!! :laugh:

GG is better than FOS i feel...

[Mc Shakespear]

big up the movement no long

[hyperfrank]

I really didn't like Ghost Town I DON'T know why buttt I can't stop playing:

Commandments
Darkside freestyle
Threats
Buss 1
Who's Got
Mountain
Fake Mcs
I'm Ghetts (Remix)
Real Talk
Convo with a cabby

Kind of like How it is not too sure about that one yet.

I had to drive into west yesterday and I felt to run over everyone I actually felt to flip out a flip knife and shank some idiot driver 6 times but all I had was a bar of chocolate so that idea fell through.

The cd is so hype and angry I haven't heard something as raw as this for a very long time. I think he did limit himself though with working with 1/ 2 producers but guess it's something different just like the one he said he wants to do with rapid, wiley etc etc. Want to see what he can do over beats from maniac etc on them MTM cds though.

[S.Man]

Dont u think ghost town, the production sounds quite Eminem-ish??

i was anticipating this release for a very long time as ghetts is my fav mc and he didnt disappoint. Although I still cant say yet that i prefer it to GG. I need to listen to it more. I love the fact it is darker n rawer but i feel on sometracks his voice has been digitalised too much. I like ghetto gospel for its variety n the fact its clear but didnt like it because it needed some more energy.

I think im just bein fussy still, this cements ghetts and freedom of speech as one of the best to come out of the scene. Its set a milestone for other MCs to aim for. As frank said i really wanna see what ghetts can do over a variety of beats especially from maniac, wiley and rapid. Looking forward to the album an the MTM series.

[Retrofreak]

Dont u think ghost town, the production sounds quite Eminem-ish??

i was anticipating this release for a very long time as ghetts is my fav mc and he didnt disappoint. Although I still cant say yet that i prefer it to GG. I need to listen to it more. I love the fact it is darker n rawer but i feel on sometracks his voice has been digitalised too much. I like ghetto gospel for its variety n the fact its clear but didnt like it because it needed some more energy.

I think im just bein fussy still, this cements ghetts and freedom of speech as one of the best to come out of the scene. Its set a milestone for other MCs to aim for. As frank said i really wanna see what ghetts can do over a variety of beats especially from maniac, wiley and rapid. Looking forward to the album an the MTM series.


^^^Agreed,

I'll add that I don't put the lack of diversity solely down to the production ,but more to the songwriting as Ghetts more or less talks about the same stuff through out the CD (apart from "Convo with a cabby").
I find that he attacks too many tracks the same way so it adds to the CD feeling very limited imo.

To me FOS is a well put together project ,but I'll play GG more as it has breaks from his angry tone and he's saying more on that CD.

I like when MC's are real and this tough guy routine is too much for me to give it repeated listens over a long period of time.

[hyperfrank]

I think a lot of people are going on like this is some huge disapointment, its far from it. Well it is if you want to here him on a jme beat or maniac one or big scene colab but theres obviously none of that on here. I'm glad there isn't an over load of features on here as some mixtapes it might aswell be a crew mixtape or a joint project with the amount of bloody features on it. It sounds like ghetto has been listening to a lot of you - we want him more angrier... but all in all I'm very happy with this release and I fucking have enjoyed listening to it.

*I wrote this before i saw retrofreaks post*

[Jay]

Ive listened to this CD a few more times and just come to the conclusion this just ain't the style that I like. Is a well put together CD and hope it does well, hopefully the future cd's will be my cup of tea. Each to their own.

[hyperfrank]

Ive listened to this CD a few more times and just come to the conclusion this just ain't the style that I like. Is a well put together CD and hope it does well, hopefully the future cd's will be my cup of tea. Each to their own.

fair play.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

i voted 8

buss 1 and threats got me hype

[S.Man]

anyone know who made that 'When the Tings come out'??

[hyperfrank]

Slix produced that its on the Pyro Radio and UK street sounds cd.

[adidasgrandad]

i love it. the energy of ghetto and the raw but sophisticated (if you get me lol) productions come together brilliantly for me.
one thing iv found is that this cd actually entertains me throughout.
makes greatest hits look like a cd for kids.

[Odotkae]

Very Good CD
Don't Know If I Prefer It To GG Doe
MTM Series & The Album Should Be Saying A Lot Doe!

[S.Man]

Slix produced that its on the Pyro Radio and UK street sounds cd.


Really? Thats a crazy beat. Props to slix.