Project urban cancelled!!!!

[PROJECT URBAN]

:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::
The biggest 'grime' CONCERT ever has been cancelled!!! It featured the following:
Tinchy Stryder
Ironik
Chipmunk
Skepta
Crazy Cousinz
Ghetts
Bashy
Logan Sama (Kiss 100)
Wretch 32
Scorcher
Clement Marfo & The Frontline
FStreet
& More

But.......

Project Urban 2009 has been cancelled by the O2/police/local council. We as the promoter were not consulted on this decision, it was cancelled without us knowing (we only found out via facebook)! This is wrong for a start!
Then to cancel the event for no real reason apart from it is a 'High Risk' event is just madness! 696 checks/risk assessments took place months ago and we had to take one ‘High Risk’ act off the bill, which we did. If this CONCERT featured the best US rappers then there would be no issue, then why is there an issue when a concert features the BEST UK RAPPERS/MC’s? How will ‘Grime’ ever grow?

Below is an extract from the London Timeout:
‘They should email us (clubsfocusdeskco14@met.police.uk) about the specific night. We’d like to know about it and we’ll go through them on an individual basis. This isn’t genre-targeted, not at all. I’d like to say that our approach works. We’ve seen a significant reduction in violence and gun crime in the clubs we risk assess.’

We the promoters were not consulted and did not go through anything with any local authority! We as the promoters offered to pay £4500.00 in EXTRA Police and security. Airport style security was already in place at extra cost, as we did not want anything bad to happen; safety is our number one priority!

We worked our butts off to get this event off the ground as you all know Grime is not the easiest genre of music to deal with, but it’s what I love so I was prepared to put the work in to see these acts move from raves to professional concerts; a level which they should be at! A huge promotional campaign was just getting into full swing, with an advert on Channel AKA/U and an advert on Kiss 100, plus thanks to Logan there was due to be a ticket give away etc on the biggest grime radio show in the world. All this effort and expense down the drain!!!

‘’We have been told through 3rd parties that Project Urban 2009 is unable to go ahead. I have not been contacted or even consulted in the discussion making process. This is my event and I should be the first point of contact about cancelling this event and I should most definitely be consulted before any decisions are made. This is my first complaint. The police have given no formal reason as to why the event should be cancelled, there is no intelligence to suggest that this event it going to be too dangerous to run. It is purely racism (I am white and can see that this is nothing less than race involved in the decision making process) To say that because most of the acts on the bill are black this will attract black on black crime is just preposterous , outrageous and above all highly racist. Then will a white event not attract white on white crime or are white people not criminals? I do believe white people are just as much criminals as black people are. This is not an issue of safety it is an issue of (and I hate to say it) institutional racism. ‘’ This is an extract from a form I filled out and sent to and ICC (Independent Complaints Commission)

It is a sad state of affairs for the genre that it wasn’t allowed to reach the next stage in its development, the process of evolution has been halted by draconian, out of touch figures at both the O2 and the police.

Anyone who wishes to contact me please do so at enquires@projecturban.net

Thanks and look forward to see how we can move forward!
:-D

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[Demos]

pisstake

[The Elijah]

gutted 4u mate.

fuck the police

[FG]

Sorry to hear that man.

The way you wasn't informed smacks of sneakiness and unprofessionalism.

This is a short-term setback; keep putting the work in and your efforts will be rewarded

[JACK]

who was the high risk act?

and c-s posts above

[MoneyMan]

& the feds/government wonder why the kids hate them..............

[lozza b]

unlucky fam and unlucky grime

feds in the way again

getting tired of it. fuckin tired of it.

[PROJECT URBAN]

I cant say mate, all I can say is that he was taken off the bill then got success and was allowed back on the bill! Which makes the whole system fuked!

[cRiminal]

Pigs ruining things as usual

[BananaMan]

who was the high risk act?

and c-s posts above

I bet it was purple

lol i kid

[The Elijah]

Us as a forum have got to speak out about this kinda shit. Seriously, we need to help these guys as much as possible.

[PROJECT URBAN]

Us as a forum have got to speak out about this kinda shit. Seriously, we need to help these guys as much as possible.


Well TBH is feel powerless ! What can you do?

[MoneyMan]

^^^ both true posts. How can a scene thrive in anywhere other than the underground when all mainstream agencies are determined to unfairly suppress it?

[Scirght]

Well this is the best place to find like minded people with a viewpoint on this.

And as stated, something has to be done about this and we should act now rather than later, to have the chance of bringing Project Urban back from the grave and turning it into something positive and a step forward for grime, for the media to look at it and write a positive article on Grime for once.

It's just music, like metal and indie.. but it is not treated the same.

[PROJECT URBAN]

^^^ both true posts. How can a scene thrive in anywhere other than the underground when all mainstream agencies are determined to unfairly suppress it?

So tru, somthing need to be done! O yeh a concert such as Project Urban needs to take place!!! Its a vicious circle :angry:

[nii-o]

this is f***** up

in fact its disgusting

the high risk act must of been Ghetto. his prior conviction must not of helped

[PROJECT URBAN]

this is f***** up

in fact its disgusting

the high risk act must of been Ghetto. his prior conviction must not of helped


Nope not Ghetts !

[MoneyMan]

^^ yeah i was thinkin that. bet they would have let this go ahead if it was just ironik & chipmunk playin crap tunes, what is so bad about having bare heads hyping & enjoyin themselves? obviously sometimes there is beef but i'm sure hardcore metal gigs like Metallica & stuff have waayyyyy more violence than the average grime rave!!!!

[Joe]

sketpa

[nii-o]

Nope not Ghetts !

my bad

I have no idea then

this is ridiculous and it's a shame. Grime is a targeted music

[MoneyMan]

average audience ethnicity @ rock shows - white
average audience ethnicity @ grime shows - black

not sayin feds are racist but............................................... ....

[L1ONE]

Nope not Ghetts !

was it giggs?

and thats a pisstake, you had a few funky lined up aswell.

[KingSizeBlues]

:(

[Josh]

That's ridiculous, police piss me off no end, things like this... Racism seems the only reason to be honest. 'High risk' haha, bunch of corrupt idiots.

They treat everyone like shit, as a football fan when I go to away games I'm herded up and treated like a fucking caged animal, makes me sick. You're constantly being video'd and things like that, I smiled at a copper the other week in Sheffield and the words that left his mouth were 'you're heading towards a fine, son'.

Sorry, not trying to move away from this topic. Got a little sidetracked. Still dispicable how this has happened... and with such a huge lineup too...

[Scirght]

I wouldn't say they have more violence, having been in a Metallica crowd myself. But people do get injured, and pushed about as a result of moshing. I f*cked my back up at a gig in camden, the lead vocalist kicked me in the face, and yet with that being basically the norm, the band are now going on a national tour with their second album!

As you say, people are just enjoying themselves and in a crowd, and at a crowded venue, obviously people are going to get pushed about a little.. and you will get the odd person who goes a bit far. But at a Grime gig, this pushing about is deemed unacceptable and sometimes 'violent behaviour', but in reality it is what you should really expect when you go to a gig/concert.

And that is what needs changing, how people (media and authority) perceive the grime genre and the audience that follows it, and not to immediately associate any gun or knife crime in the capital done by youths with the genre, there are other reasons to why people resort to a violent lifestyle, poverty being the main one.

[adidasgrandad]

public order act still.


but yeah the blatent targeting of music with black audiences is sickening in my opinion

[SimonCowellOfGrime]

This is bad, Eskimo dance better not get locked off midway through tonight, I have friends going to this as well.

No offence project urban, but i would remove your sig if i was you :(

[MoneyMan]

^^^ all true

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

police rules on raves are wrong

Won't change anytime soon though

We made a rod for our own backs tbh

[PROJECT URBAN]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=48759217283#/group.php?gid=48759217283&ref=ts

Could everyone who has facebook join this group! Lets make some form of movement! CHEERS!!!!

[Ryddel]

ro08bILEvqc

[BananaMan]

anyone reckon some hater just phones them and says there might be beef just to fuck up the nights?

[Wiz]

average audience ethnicity @ rock shows - white
average audience ethnicity @ grime shows - black

not sayin feds are racist but............................................... ....
I'm pretty sure half the people who go to grime shows are white nowerdays


Anyhow, this is bang out of order, I was actually amazed these guys managed to put together such a line up and have it all sorted in a well known venue as well. It's a pisstake how their efforts get rewarded when they're trying to do something positive.

[Jammie Dodger]

"We're writing to let you know that PROJECT URBAN 2009 at IndigO2 at The O2,London on 03/05/2009 has been cancelled, and won't be rescheduled."
took the piss tbh

[PROJECT URBAN]

took the piss tbh



Well Im sorry mate its out of my hands! Please make a complaint to the indigO2 and myself (so i can pass it on to the O2)

send it to: enquires@projecturban.net :-D

customerservices@theo2.co.uk

[Jay05]

its a par

write to your local politician to complain and highlight the issue and all the local papers.

[PROJECT URBAN]

Yeh def bruv thats the least I can do! !!! :-D

[Scirght]

Well after reading - www.timeout.com/london/clubs/features/2674/1.html - I say you contact them, as i would believe they would be interested in a story such as this a year on from when they did the experiment.

[markasdarkas]

certain people on that flyer dont pass the police's risk assessment

[PROJECT URBAN]

certain people on that flyer dont pass the police's risk assessment

Like who ?

[Tight and Bright]

Who was the high risk?

[ukflow]

Ouch!

[cRiminal]

High risk was most likely Scorcher

thats a par did you shot people tickets?

If you were renting somewere like Ministry or Fabric it would of been cool but because 02 arena have had previous incidents of stabbings at other events so thats probably why they locked off your ting.

[Gomeless Hypsey]

fucked up

do something about it, if it was me, I'd be selling the story to everyone, make some more cash, and organize another one

don't let them boy you though, it's deep

[Wiz]

Scorcher? Mr 'I went to prison for parking tickets', come from Bush Hill Park, Scorcher?
Nah, must have been Skepta.

[PROJECT URBAN]

Nope not Skepta! I aint gonna say who it is, no one will get it! But its def not Ghetto or Skepta!

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Nope not Skepta! I aint gonna say who it is, no one will get it! But its def not Ghetto or Skepta!

just say stop being a girl

[Sir Kippington]

sEE THIS HIGH RISK TING
IT WORKS IN A FUNNY WAY
ITS LIKE AIDS


I HAVE SEEN BENGA BANNED FROM PLAYING AT A DANCE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ON THE FLYER FOR ANOTHER DANCE BEFORE WITH SOMEONE WHO IS HIGH RISK AND IF YOU KNOW BENGA YOU WOULD KNOW HE IS THE FURTHEST THING FROM A GOONBAG.

ASSOCIATED ACTS ALL GET TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH.
FUCKRIES.

[PROJECT URBAN]

just say stop being a girl

Its not the fact that i am being a girl lol! Just I am trying to get some level of professionalism in the genre! :-D

[Gomeless Hypsey]

r.i.p grime

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Its not the fact that i am being a girl lol! Just I am trying to get some level of professionalism in the genre! :-D

guess sum1 has 2 du it seeing as the mc's dnt wana du it

[PROJECT URBAN]

sEE THIS HIGH RISK TING
IT WORKS IN A FUNNY WAY
ITS LIKE AIDS


I HAVE SEEN BENGA BANNED FROM PLAYING AT A DANCE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ON THE FLYER FOR ANOTHER DANCE BEFORE WITH SOMEONE WHO IS HIGH RISK AND IF YOU KNOW BENGA YOU WOULD KNOW HE IS THE FURTHEST THING FROM A GOONBAG.

ASSOCIATED ACTS ALL GET TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH.
FUCKRIES.


Agree 100%, if an act is in the same club where this is a stabbing, even if the act is no involved then they(in the eyes of the police) become more risky??!!! :dead:

[Sir Kippington]

its a way of shutting the scene down.
Worked for garage.
now its grimes turn.

Dark days ahead.

[Gomeless Hypsey]

sEE THIS HIGH RISK TING
IT WORKS IN A FUNNY WAY
ITS LIKE AIDS


I HAVE SEEN BENGA BANNED FROM PLAYING AT A DANCE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ON THE FLYER FOR ANOTHER DANCE BEFORE WITH SOMEONE WHO IS HIGH RISK AND IF YOU KNOW BENGA YOU WOULD KNOW HE IS THE FURTHEST THING FROM A GOONBAG.

ASSOCIATED ACTS ALL GET TARRED WITH THE SAME BRUSH.
FUCKRIES.

I lol'd

[Sir Kippington]

I lol'd

psml.
The way i explain thing is fucked sometimes.
I should teach secondary school.:evilgrin:

[PROJECT URBAN]

psml.
The way i explain thing is fucked sometimes.
I should teach secondary school.:evilgrin:

LOL that wud be the beginning of the END of the world as we know it ! !!

[Sir Kippington]

LOL that wud be the beginning of the END of the world as we know it ! !!

LOL for real

But hope you guys can sort something else out, your trying to do a good thing.

[Gomeless Hypsey]

LOL that wud be the beginning of the END of the world as we know it ! !!

lol

bit extreme

[Gomeless Hypsey]

LOL for real

But hope you guys can sort something else out, your trying to do a good thing.

for real

[PROJECT URBAN]

Everyone join the facebook group please !!!!



http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=48759217283&ref=nf

[Gomeless Hypsey]

r.i.p grime

[Joe]

http://www.westcoastpioneers.com/uploads/pics/nwa_panic_zone_ice_cube_easy_e_dr_dre_arabian_prin ce_1987_01.jpg

[Aaron]

Pissed, I'd already ordered my ticket aswell lol

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

Pissed, I'd already ordered my ticket aswell lol

no refunds

http://www.chromasia.com/images/sorry_we_are_closed_b.jpg

[PROJECT URBAN]

no refunds

http://www.chromasia.com/images/sorry_we_are_closed_b.jpg

EVERYONE WILL GET A FULL REFUND, lets not get that twisted!

Contact the indigO2 for info about getting a refund! Also make a complaint to them saying that the whole situation is mad! :-D

[MoneyMan]

cliche but: fuck the feds!

[JustGeo]

Nope not Skepta! I aint gonna say who it is, no one will get it! But its def not Ghetto or Skepta!

Giggs?

[PROJECT URBAN]

Giggs?

He wasnt on the bill?

[Birdman]

only ghetts and logan are the only grime guys on there anyway


rest are borin/shit

[Birdman]

average audience ethnicity @ rock shows - white
average audience ethnicity @ grime shows - black

not sayin feds are racist but............................................... ....

stupid comparison

bit of a diff vibe from a rock party than a grime rave

[JustGeo]

He wasnt on the bill?

Oh I thought you werent allowed to book the high risk act in the first place...

*goes to look at lineup*

This is pissed though, I was looking forward to this as well. Good luck in your future endeavours man.

[Jay]

Obviously Chippy's headtop was making him the high risk.

Seriously though this needs highlighting in every possible place, need the writers to get doin ther ting and putting it out in magazines etc, its a pisstake that there just shutting the whole scene down.

[Andre]

I go to hardcore/punk gigs that are essentially fights

but theres never any shanks or nothing

worst I've see is some fat guy who was moshing with a studded belt wrapped round his fist

['nuum general]

Have you lost much money on this?

What i'd do is contact all the local & national papers with your story as well as local radio & 1xtra. Try & get a lot of publicity out of it to highlight the stupidity of it.

[cRiminal]

Have you lost much money on this?

What i'd do is contact all the local & national papers with your story as well as local radio & 1xtra. Try & get a lot of publicity out of it to highlight the stupidity of it.

That attracts more attention to the fact that people see grime as violent music and don't trust it enough to allow shows go ahead

[Hij]

I'm gonna write to my MP about this I think and try lobby for change.

I suggest others if they care do the same.

This is billed as a "concert" therefore its gonna be the artists probably on the stage seperately, performing songs and so forth- polars apart from the mass mic swapping and hype sets at an Eskimo Dance/Sidewinder etc.

Not only that, the location is prime. It's the o2 arena and he was willing to pay £4,000 more on security for the evening. After putting something like a metal detector on the door, apart from a fist fight, what else can you really expect?

Fights happen in pubs up and down the country every weekend. You don't shut the pub down from opening because its 'High Risk' that there could be a physical altercation, you have bouncers to remove any trouble makers.

Personally, after reading about so many young people being stabbed to death in London and the police seemingly unable to prevent this, I find it pretty staggering that they can bill this event as "High Risk" and cancel it, when seemingly in the current climate, wherever you go in the capital its high risk.

[S.K.I.T.Z Beatz]

i dont believe it was anything to do with you

more the place you were doing it... since the UMA's the 02 has been shit scared of anything resembling urban

I'm pissed to hear what has happened none the less

u should seriously try contacting one of the carling academys I have held a couple things there and hav had no problems from the police

[Dioufy]

co-sign the uma ting
plus the "urban" crowd got lairy at matter 02 a couple weeks ago
a shame, was gna get tickets

[R-Style]

chipmunk and ironik were high risk alie? they must have thought they would bring in elton john and go on a mad bumming spree..n/h

[PROJECT URBAN]

chipmunk and ironik were high risk alie? They must have thought they would bring in elton john and go on a mad bumming spree..n/h

lmao jks!

[murklewayne]

chipmunk and ironik were high risk alie? they must have thought they would bring in elton john and go on a mad bumming spree..n/h

:laugh:

Even tho i live 2 far away 2 reach. This is bait, people are afraid 2 book grime artist's in NCL because they think it will bring violence.

[skywalker]

Black Boys...Black Boys....

[DJ Mad Vybez]

bun out the racist murdering police

[Findhiminthebackoftheflat]

bun out the racist murdering police

bun out then stupid ass views

[The merkiest guy]

I'm so pissed off, I'm actually gonna fight some1 who crosses me 2day............
This country and I repeat this COUNTRY is fucked!!!!

This country will never have:

A music scene like Brazil were new music thrives!

A Black prime minister

Tope black officals (mayor of LDN police chiefs)

Good alternative tv shows/films (Wire, trainign day, city of god)



Fuck this country........

I've had enough, theres so much disrimination with us trying 2 better ouselves, yet when peopel try and make money LEGALLY they can't prosper.

[Tight and Bright]

I'm so pissed off, I'm actually gonna fight some1 who crosses me 2day............
This country and I repeat this COUNTRY is fucked!!!!

This country will never have:

A music scene like Brazil were new music thrives!

A Black prime minister

Tope black officals (mayor of LDN police chiefs)

Good alternative tv shows/films (Wire, trainign day, city of god)



Fuck this country........

I've had enough, theres so much disrimination with us trying 2 better ouselves, yet when peopel try and make money LEGALLY they can't prosper.

Merkiest why don't you just move to kenya and have 5 wifes.

[MR_]

fuck the goverment sum1 blow up parliment

[DeeKay]

Hmm this is a pisstake. The complete lack of respect, guess it just shows the disdain which these type of people hold for UK black music.

[PROJECT URBAN]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/jan/21/police-form-696-garage-music

Take a look very intersting!

[Tight and Bright]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/jan/21/police-form-696-garage-music

Take a look very intersting!

Write to a newspaper about your event getting shut down.

[SPOOKY DJ]

this is f***** up

in fact its disgusting

the high risk act must of been Ghetto. his prior conviction must not of helped


& the feds/government wonder why the kids hate them..............

real talk

its a shame to hear that when lockin off an event they take the cowardly way out and dont even think to tell the promoters 1st and foremost after all the ashrd graft they put in.....then feds and government wonder why we end up on road in pen or dead. dickheads.


better still dead out 02 u got plenty more venues around u....Ministry, Carling Academy, Oceans, HMV Apollo.................

[Aaron]

To be fair think about how many guys would get moved to before/after the concert.. Grime = Urban kids... and they're not going to change lol. The buses+trains there would be a madness.. people waiting outside just to jack the more neeky types.

[Tony Starks]

To be fair think about how many guys would get moved to before/after the concert.. Grime = Urban kids... and they're not going to change lol. The buses+trains there would be a madness.. people waiting outside just to jack the more neeky types.
I really hate dickheads like u who are too scared to leave ur yard in fear of 'urban' kids.
This typa attitude got the ting cancelled in the first place smh

[R-Style]

wierd thing is i got tickets to lil wayne in hammersmith apollo but my man is always goin on about how hes a blood..

[PROJECT URBAN]

To be fair think about how many guys would get moved to before/after the concert.. Grime = Urban kids... and they're not going to change lol. The buses+trains there would be a madness.. people waiting outside just to jack the more neeky types.

U sound like a copper ! :dead:

[SPOOKY DJ]

wierd thing is i got tickets to lil wayne in hammersmith apollo but my man is always goin on about how hes a blood..

might get a tempz to his head

[Lemon]

To be fair think about how many guys would get moved to before/after the concert.. Grime = Urban kids... and they're not going to change lol. The buses+trains there would be a madness.. people waiting outside just to jack the more neeky types.


I really hate dickheads like u who are too scared to leave ur yard in fear of 'urban' kids.
This typa attitude got the ting cancelled in the first place smh

:agree:

It's a par. Big up project urban.

[PROJECT URBAN]

[QUOTE=SPOOKY DJ;627332]real talk

its a shame to hear that when lockin off an event they take the cowardly way out and dont even think to tell the promoters 1st and foremost after all the ashrd graft they put in.....then feds and government wonder why we end up on road in pen or dead. dickheads.
QUOTE]

VERY TRUE!

[Eagle]

wasnt wiley was the high risk artist...you said he was on the bill originall,y then suddenly he got removed

[Grimes]

lol at how this rave gets locked off then several hours later theres war at eskimodance

[PROJECT URBAN]

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[PROJECT URBAN]

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Scrapthe696/

ALSO SIGN THIS ""!!!!

[R-Style]

what i dont get is that if you guys had funding from the princes trust how can they cancel you?

[PROJECT URBAN]

what i dont get is that if you guys had funding from the princes trust how can they cancel you?

Ye Logan got that bit wrong we got funding from a private investor! :-D Like a Dragons Den sorta thing !