anyone catch geeneus' talking about grime djs on rinse?

[swiiing]

its on his last show on the rinse blog
he said grime djs need to stop playing funky, 'old dusty funky' cos theyre swag at it
lol

[Tony Starks]

Funky house is where the p is at right now, there's no denying it
These DJs are just mad cos they dnt want more competition tbh
If a grime mc/dj can spit/mix over funky den its minor but sayin anyone associated with grime can't mix it up once in a while like say Marcus nasty or geeneus control the scene is a dikhed ting

[talee]

gna check dat now

[Equilibrium]

well said funky is deadout mostli anyways

[swiiing]

funky is fresher than a lot of grime at the mo imo
still like grime but a lot of grime producers arent upping the levels or moving it fwd like they cd be

[Hij]

dont mind a couple funky tunes at the beginning of a djs show really
afterall grime came from garage and garage was danceable

[Lemon]

funky is fresher than a lot of grime at the mo imo
still like grime but a lot of grime producers arent upping the levels or moving it fwd like they cd be

Yeah producer levels need to be going up. Like how dubstep looked well produced, till Chase and Status came along and duppied. Just about gaining experiance and knowledge over time though.

[I LOVE GRIME]

man like geeneus is a don he controls our ears, best sets over recent years have been on what??? rinse fm, when he banned grime from rinse everyone thought it would be the end. he is a powerful man and i also believe a very smart control freak! funky is doing alot we can all see that just like grime was years ago then hoodies and guns all da shit got affiliated with it kinda slowed things down, as a member of P.A.U.G.C im pretty sure that geeneus £ got affected and he dont want that to happen with funky so he will use his power very wisely, its not about love of music its all about £££ of music!

[Danny Trejo]

The point he's making is that the funky being played by grime DJs on rinse are generally the most rinsed out bait tunes, which is for the most part very true.

[I LOVE GRIME]

no tune is rinsed for arguments say jack may have heard eskimo for the first time today and now wants to follow grime, old tunes gettin played helps music move forward!

[Sick Boy]

lol @ Geeneus thinking he can tell other DJs what to play

[Valhalla]

thank fuck, im sick of lockin into grime dj's and hearin boring funky, abit of its ok but when thers loads its a par

but ye real talk about the producers

[Valhalla]

lol @ Geeneus thinking he can tell other DJs what to play

he kind of can on his radio station, if they say no he can ask them to leave enit

but i can see were your coming from

[I LOVE GRIME]

thank fuck, im sick of lockin into grime dj's and hearin boring funky, abit of its ok but when thers loads its a par

but ye real talk about the producers


i hear what your sayin but think about this if its the first time you locked in you could become to like it me personally i like eastern jam n only heard dat a few months but some people heard it last year, musically people are at different times and whats fresh to 1 person is old to another person so you have to remember that in the long run an old tune getting played adds to the list of followers that it has

[Scratcha/DVA]

Too many sheep, too many many sheep.
dass da problem.

[Equilibrium]

i hear what your sayin but think about this if its the first time you locked in you could become to like it me personally i like eastern jam n only heard dat a few months but some people heard it last year, musically people are at different times and whats fresh to 1 person is old to another person so you have to remember that in the long run an old tune getting played adds to the list of followers that it has

it can also add to the list of followers a dj might lose

[Big-C]

Hes right though, Grime DJs should not be playin the Funky stuff to be fair because the sound just doesnt want to be affiliated with it, saying that though, the grime djs that do play funky play the underproduced, stiff, shit funky that wouldnt reach in many other 'funky' djs sets

Only grime dj ive seen play a nice selection of Funky on air is JJ (plus that funky mix he done a while ago) and Scratcha (allthough he plays all kinds of music and also plays a more proffesional sounding side of house)

Other than that i just dont think Grime djs should mix Funky in with the Grime sound

[Grime_King]

lol @ Geeneus thinking he can tell other DJs what to play

Geeneus can say what is wants its his radio station

if not den he just get dem off rinse simple as

[DJ Mad Vybez]

Me personally aint really into funky I might drop the odd badboy banton or apple beat into the mix. But to me everything is still garage but under stupid amount of sub genres
Back in the day before mc's started spitting on the set it was a common place to here some neesha what it gonna be, bit of Lorraine Cato, joy mark ruff ryder, bit of wookie etc (bait 2 step 4x4 tunes from dj's who specialise in the darker stuff)
Fast forward 2009 dj's still play the bait sounds b4 the main part of the set (good way to entice listeners) some kaya, kig family etc etc just happens to be bait funky not bait ukg there should not even be an issue about it tbh.

If grime dj's are playing 2 hours of funky that’s a next ting all together.

[G.K.]

its on his last show on the rinse blog
he said grime djs need to stop playing funky, 'old dusty funky' cos theyre swag at it
lol

I heard this. I was saying on the Rinse msn that rinse needs more grime and that was his reply.

[out there]

but sayin anyone associated with grime can't mix it up once in a while like say Marcus nasty or geeneus control the scene is a dikhed ting


this.

[Tight and Bright]

I don't mind it when grime dj's drop a bit of funky mixes it up nicely, i hate it when all they drop is bait stuff like k.i.g, kayla and that princess whatever.

[No One Likes Frank]

dont mind a couple funky tunes at the beginning of a djs show really
afterall grime came from garage and garage was danceable

This really.

['nuum general]

Spyro does it well mixing funky in with the set but I understand the angle that geeneus is coming from. The baitest funky & dubstep tunes get dropped in grime mixes instead of people searching for different stuff. This leads to alot of sets sounding very similar

[90zKiD]

no

[Danny Trejo]

Spyro does it well mixing funky in with the set but I understand the angle that geeneus is coming from. The baitest funky & dubstep tunes get dropped in grime mixes instead of people searching for different stuff. This leads to alot of sets sounding very similar
It makes grime sets sound lost to be frank, as does the overuse of old tunes tbh. Very few real grime sets with good replay value these days.

['nuum general]

It makes grime sets sound lost to be frank, as does the overuse of old tunes tbh. Very few real grime sets with good replay value these days.

.

Its not so much the overuse of old tunes but the over-use of certain old tunes. There's many forgotten classics that never get drawn for. I think part of it comes down to people getting tunes coming to them rather than going to look for them

[The Elijah]

Theres enough good current Grime not to have to play funky or bait old grime on the radio.

However if you want your show to be accessible to all, its good to throw in some funky, garage and dubstep.

Me, I just want people that are into, or want to get into Grime to be entertained. Not tryna entertain house fans

[Miyagi Dan]

Theres enough good current Grime not to have to play funky or bait old grime on the radio.



i dont think there is at the moment, when you look at the amount of new and good dubstep or funky being made in a month, then look at grime

i can understand why grime dj's are playing other genres a little bit

[Major]

Geeneus hates grime, not surprised hes saying shit like this.

[The Elijah]

i dont think there is at the moment, when you look at the amount of new and good dubstep or funky being made in a month, then look at grime

i can understand why grime dj's are playing other genres a little bit

U been keeping 2update yea?

[Major]

Theres enough good current Grime not to have to play funky or bait old grime on the radio.

However if you want your show to be accessible to all, its good to throw in some funky, garage and dubstep.

Me, I just want people that are into, or want to get into Grime to be entertained. Not tryna entertain house fans

ROFL
don't kid urself

enough for who, you????

Even you have to draw for the dubstep cuz, der aint enough grime.

[Valhalla]

Theres enough good current Grime not to have to play funky or bait old grime on the radio.

However if you want your show to be accessible to all, its good to throw in some funky, garage and dubstep.

Me, I just want people that are into, or want to get into Grime to be entertained. Not tryna entertain house fans

thers is more for you cuz u are a dj, i personally think thers an alryt amount of grime being released, but alot more can be released tbh

[fuk off]

.

Its not so much the overuse of old tunes but the over-use of certain old tunes. There's many forgotten classics that never get drawn for. I think part of it comes down to people getting tunes coming to them rather than going to look for them

Definatly

[Eric Cantona]

Spooky needs to be back on rinse, his radio shows are sick, it helps that he makes sick beats as well

[The Elijah]

ROFL
don't kid urself

enough for who, you????

Even you have to draw for the dubstep cuz, der aint enough grime.

If I play dubstep it is strictly to compliment the Grime, I dont go and do full dubstep mixes or funky mixes do I? The mixes I have put together thus far this year:

2000 & Grime - Sukh Knight Nasty Remix?
Westwood Mix - 1 Dubstep tune Caspa wheres my money remix (mixed in with dont phone me, as it has the ringtone there)
Overproof - None

People have always mixed in other styles into Grime sets man its nothing new.

[The Elijah]

thers is more for you cuz u are a dj, i personally think thers an alryt amount of grime being released, but alot more can be released tbh

Well it is the DJs in question not the market place. There is definitely not enough good Grime in the shops right now, I wont disagree with that.

[fuk off]

If I play dubstep it is strictly to compliment the Grime, I dont go and do full dubstep mixes or funky mixes do I? The mixes I have put together thus far this year:

2000 & Grime - Sukh Knight Nasty Remix?
Westwood Mix - 1 Dubstep tune Caspa wheres my money remix (mixed in with dont phone me, as it has the ringtone there)
Overproof - None

People have always mixed in other styles into Grime sets man its nothing new.

definatly

[Steez]

The whole arguments fucked. They wanna make P, then when people wanna invest in, play, promote, and enjoy the music, they complain. Some dumbness.

If you want music to be successful, you have to accept the fact that people you don't like from other scenes will embrace it, otherwise you're left with a scene of 20 people that doesn't go anywhere and comes like any youth club antics.

[Steez]

Also, the complaints are a lot considering the amount of failed/given up grime producers who are into funky now. Geeneus himself, once played grime, and now plays funky.

[The Elijah]

at how people complain about grime djs slyly doing this, when dubstep djs have jumped ship baitly.

Name 5.

Dont hear Skream on rinse playing crazy cousins do you?

[Steez]

Name 5.

Dont hear Skream on rinse playing crazy cousins do you?
Kode 9?

[Danny Trejo]

Chris say things in public mate.

[The Elijah]

ramadanman, kode 9, bok bok, boomnoise, chefal/ld

theres an extra 1

Bok Bok aint a/never was a dubstep DJ.
Chefs show from yesterday http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2009/03/chef-ld-24th-march_25.html

Kode 9 likes everything, he is putting out stuff from a Grime producer later on in the year.

I am not sure about Ramadanman and Boomnoise. I dont know much about them
Want to name 2 more?

[Jammie Dodger]

ramadanman, kode 9, bok bok, boomnoise, chefal/ld

these guys still do what they do best, but its the same story as what grime djs do with funky (playing the odd tune here and there), some, perhaps more than others

[Jammie Dodger]

Bok Bok aint a/never was a dubstep DJ.
Chefs show from yesterday http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2009/03/chef-ld-24th-march_25.html

Kode 9 likes everything, he is putting out stuff from a Grime producer later on in the year.

I am not sure about Ramadanman and Boomnoise. I dont know much about them
Want to name 2 more?
dont care about this
^read above, its the same case as the grime djs.

[The Elijah]

thing is chris when your old enough to experience the club scene and that then you can comment, its not a send, as I know your young, but I see these people play out all the time, so I know.

Kode 9s & Onemans set at DMZ was Garage, Funky and Grime. His set at deviation was his stuff, Joker, 2000F, 'wonky' and bit of 'standard' dubstep and funky.

Chef last time I saw him at FWD him and Plastician b2b they went in with the Dubstep and Old Skool Grime

I aint seen the others play out in 09. But forums can give you a fully distorted view of whats going on.

[Steez]

Kode 9 likes everything, he is putting out stuff from a Grime producer later on in the year.
So if I write ...

Spyro likes everything, he is playing stuff from a Funky producer later on in his show.

That's cool?

[The Elijah]

surely jumping ship and playing and making the odd bit is a different statement

[DJ Mad Vybez]

bet all of them man named started of as uk garage dj's

[Jammie Dodger]

ahhh
not the case elijah
just forget i said anything

*deletes posts*

[Andre]

Yeah producer levels need to be going up. Like how dubstep looked well produced, till Chase and Status came along and duppied. Just about gaining experiance and knowledge over time though.

other than saxon chase and status are swag they did nothing for dubstep

[Miyagi Dan]

bet all of them man named started of as uk garage dj's
.

[Steez]

surely jumping ship and playing and making the odd bit is a different statement
Not particularly. Unless they sell all their grime tunes. Geeneus jumped ship, how's it cool for him, and then he's out complaining about everyone else?

[Steez]

other than saxon chase and status are swag they did nothing for dubstep
MadHouse is decent. Running was good. They put 2 dubstep tunes on an album that could have been completely D&B.

['nuum general]

So if I write ...

Spyro likes everything, he is playing stuff from a Funky producer later on in his show.

That's cool?

I think Spyro's the exception to the rule as he was on the funky tip fairly early, plus he plays fresh tunes rather than ones that are already rinsed out (which is my general quarm).

Kode 9 has always been a pioneer so its nothing new for him to be playing something different. Hyperdubs back catelogue is a testament to that.

[Andre]

MadHouse is decent. Running was good. They put 2 dubstep tunes on an album that could have been completely D&B.

they make average dubstep they don't produce anything particularly fresh or innovative. and ever since they started making dubstep I've noticed an increase in the amount of people i fully hate who listen to it.

[Steez]

I think Spyro's the exception to the rule as he was on the funky tip fairly early, plus he plays fresh tunes rather than ones that are already rinsed out (which is my general quarm).

Kode 9 has always been a pioneer so its nothing new for him to be playing something different. Hyperdubs back catelogue is a testament to that.
The whole post just did what the topic is arguing - making divides. You've argued the case that it's cool for certain guys, and not for others, which is wrong. People are free to do as they choose.




they make average dubstep they don't produce anything particularly fresh or innovative. and ever since they started making dubstep I've noticed an increase in the amount of people i fully hate who listen to it.
Maybe. I see what you're saying still, but I like their stuff regardless.

[Danny Trejo]

The idea of trying to slate a Dubstep DJ who plays the more percussive end of Dubstep moving out and playing DJ Gregory & Karizma records in their set makes very little sense to be honest, long term.
It's be different if you were referring to someone like Caspa starting to drop Seasons.

And again, as Web said, the whole point is that the funky played by grime DJs moretime is bait shit that's been out for years. When I'm at home playing fresher funky in my front room than someone with a slot on Rinse it's an odd situation.

[Hij]

DJ Oddz - Strung Up (VIP MIX)

draw for it DJs

safe

[The Elijah]

So if I write ...

Spyro likes everything, he is playing stuff from a Funky producer later on in his show.

That's cool?

Its bless, wouldnt of taken notice of Lil Silva and R1 Ryders without listening to him.

Theres not a right way and a wrong way of doing this. Spyro is the best at juggling the Garage Grime and Funky I think anyway.

But the topic was about people playing straight up mixes of old funky because 'there isnt enough grime' I agree that its air, and Im saying theres enough current Grime to do a radio show with it. Thats all. Some people dont want to do that, people want to embrace all strains of the Uk Underground. Me personally, I dont mix all of what I like otherwise I would be mixing Dean Martin with Maniac and Jim Jones with Rude Kid.

[Hij]

Even DJ Roll-X plays really good gutter grime music that is neglected by some higher Djs, the music is out there, ive sat there and listened.

[Jammie Dodger]

page has summarized that both dubstep/grime djs play various stuff in thier sets wether radio, or club :dozey:

no-ones really going anywhere with this now
people are just pissed that a grime pioneer and rinse founder has said something negative bout the scene.

[Steez]

But the topic was about people playing straight up mixes of old funky because 'there isnt enough grime' I agree that its air, and Im saying theres enough current Grime to do a radio show with it. Thats all. Some people dont want to do that, people want to embrace all strains of the Uk Underground. Me personally, I dont mix all of what I like otherwise I would be mixing Dean Martin with Maniac and Jim Jones with Rude Kid.
Why don't you do that? Personally, I'd prefer that, hardly any DJs break outside one or two select niches/genres now, it's hard to find mixtapes with boxfresh new music and classic old stuff.

[Danny Trejo]

page has summarized that both dubstep/grime djs play various stuff in thier sets wether radio, or club :dozey:

Which isn't the point Geeneus was making, despite everyone in this thread thinking he was. I don't see the point you're trying to make really.

['nuum general]

Its bless, wouldnt of taken notice of Lil Silva and R1 Ryders without listening to him.

Theres not a right way and a wrong way of doing this. Spyro is the best at juggling the Garage Grime and Funky I think anyway.

But the topic was about people playing straight up mixes of old funky because 'there isnt enough grime' I agree that its air, and Im saying theres enough current Grime to do a radio show with it. Thats all. Some people dont want to do that, people want to embrace all strains of the Uk Underground. Me personally, I dont mix all of what I like otherwise I would be mixing Dean Martin with Maniac and Jim Jones with Rude Kid.

Do it

Moving the topic on, if there is enough new grime to do a full show, would you say there is enough for several djs to do shows without a fairly large proportion being the same tunes?

Comparing again to funky or dubstep you could hear two shows of fresh tunes that sound very different

[Miyagi Dan]

Do it

Moving the topic on, if there is enough new grime to do a full show, would you say there is enough for several djs to do shows without a fairly large proportion being the same tunes?

Comparing again to funky or dubstep you could hear two shows of fresh tunes that sound very different

the point i was making earlier

[Jammie Dodger]

Which isn't the point Geeneus was making, despite everyone in this thread thinking he was. I don't see the point you're trying to make really.

gonna have to divert to the forum for this one,
no-one complains in a thread when sirens for example is dropped, in a logan set. people infact do this below


Sirenssssssssssssssssss >>>>>>>>>>>>>

tunes are bait, but it only sums up to around 3% of the beats on an actual set. dont see what there is to complain about, let it slide ffs

[The Elijah]

Why don't you do that? Personally, I'd prefer that, hardly any DJs break outside one or two select niches/genres now, it's hard to find mixtapes with boxfresh new music and classic old stuff.

Like I said, theres enough good Grime, obviously occasionally could do mini concept shows. Like how we did the B side classics in November thats one of our most popular shows Skilliam and I have done so far prob because most people dont have the tunes.

http://verybutterz.blogspot.com/2008/11/elijah-skilliam-rinsefm-181108.html

[Danny Trejo]

gonna have to divert to the forum for this one,
no-one complains in a thread when sirens for example is dropped, in a logan set. people infact do this below

Fair enough. The opinions of a few people in a rolling thread aren't testament to the legitimacy of the situation or the long term effect on the concept of grime as it stands though.


tunes are bait, but it only sums up to around 3% of the beats on an actual set. dont see what there is to complain about, let it slide ffs

Someone said to Geeneus "we need more grime on Rinse" he said "you've got grime DJs playing bait old funky" (which is true), why should there be? Which is true.
There are producers out there making good music that for the most part gets blanked in favour of bait old shit or bait funky. Arguably Elijah plays a lot of new stuff but he's forum linked and therefore will. The same can't be said for everyone.

[The Elijah]

Do it

Moving the topic on, if there is enough new grime to do a full show, would you say there is enough for several djs to do shows without a fairly large proportion being the same tunes?

Comparing again to funky or dubstep you could hear two shows of fresh tunes that sound very different

We could all play more or less the same big vocals from the top 20 Grime artists, but the up and coming Mcs that we support should be different, and we should all have a decent set of instrumentals nobody else really plays that are top notch. Everyones formats are slightly different anyway, and there is a lot of different stuff you can do with a radio show that most Grime DJs aint really exploited yet.

[slu-wasteguy]

hes on about silencer and dj smallz

[The Elijah]

Fair enough. The opinions of a few people in a rolling thread aren't testament to the legitimacy of the situation or the long term effect on the concept of grime as it stands though.



Someone said to Geeneus "we need more grime on Rinse" he said "you've got grime DJs playing bait old funky" (which is true), why should there be? Which is true.
There are producers out there making good music that for the most part gets blanked in favour of bait old shit or bait funky. Arguably Elijah plays a lot of new stuff but he's forum linked and therefore will. The same can't be said for everyone.

Was the 1st guy to play the top 4 up and comers from this forum Moony, J Beatz, Royal T and Z Dot nearly a year ago, so hopefully they will keep up the good work. Hopefully others will come through this year as well, and I will support them too, its not difficult really.

[Nine Bar]

If I wanna hear Grime ill lock onto a Grime show and will expect to hear Grime.

If I wanna hear Funky ill lock onto a Funky show and will expect to hear Funky.

Do other little mixes of diff genres in your own time, simple really.

[Wiz]

Is there really enough new grime music though? Like good grime music?
'cause I listen to Logan Sama's shows and always seem to hear new stuff I don't hear from listening to Rinse FM DJs.... but a lot of it is stuff that doesn't seem that good
But then when I listen to Rinse FM I always seem to hear the same tunes being played between DJs

Any audio of Geeneus' statement?

[Big-C]

The main reason why DJs now cant really play full Grime sets is simply because back in the day DJs used to be affiliated to one crew so would rep their crews sound (then including music from other crews from their area) thus making each show from different djs abit more diversified but now, all the DJs seem to play the same tracklist minus the odd few tunes..these odd few tunes are added in to try distinguish their set from the others..Grime DJs need to reach out to other artists rather than the same branch because there is good music out there but the only people who get played on Rinse are the big ones in the game other than a small few of DJs who do actually play Grime music from elsewere (Elijah being one of them from the times ive heard)

[The Elijah]

If everyone was doing tracklists it would be more transparent

I think tracklistings improve download numbers so everyone should do em if they want to spread their shows around, that goes for DJs on all stations.

[Wiz]

One thing I noticed about the tracklist thing is on the Rinse podcast for both those recent sets (Vectra and Scratcha), it doesn't have the tracklists. It's not really much good just posting it on forums as a main place to host it when the topic vanishes after a day.

[The Elijah]

.Grime DJs need to reach out to other artists rather than the same branch because there is good music out there but the only people who get played on Rinse are the big ones in the game other than a small few of DJs who do actually play Grime music from elsewere (Elijah being one of them from the times ive heard)

The people need to reach out to the Djs, I speak to most of the others quite often and they dont get these free promos people put up here in their inboxes, or even get an advance cds of a lot of peoples mix cds that are outside of the top 20 artists. Meeting in the middle is necessary. Reason why the producers I mentioned before are getting played is because they have a dialogue with a couple of DJs, regurarly send tunes and get feedback so they can improve their work.

How many times do I have to say, if none of the 'top 10 DJs' are regurarly playing your stuff, how you expect people to hear you, want to know who you are, and therefore want to pay for your music.

This isnt really the Djs fault if people think they can blow up on Myspace or Forums then fine

[Steez]

So it's cool for grime DJs to play box fresh, new funky? Just not "bait old funky"?

[Danny Trejo]

So it's cool for grime DJs to play box fresh, new funky? Just not "bait old funky"?
For me, no. But the latter is certainly worse.

[The Elijah]

So it's cool for grime DJs to play box fresh, new funky? Just not "bait old funky"?

Dont know man, people can do what they want at the end of the day. But Geeneus said he agrees there should be more Grime on the station but the Grime Djs are playing dusty old funky, so I think he was just saying if the Grime DJs where playing Grime there wouldnt be much of a problem

[Steez]

Maybe they should consider 1 hour shows. Shorter show, but overall, a lot higher level of music?

[Big-C]

Yeah, definately see what your syain but even in the House scene (including 'Funky' in this) the artists of tunes are more willing to give the tracks out, the majority of artists and djs have mailing lists so that the sound is very diversified because a dj has plenty of outlets (artists or buy them) to pick and choose their music and presicely the type of sound they want to hear from Funky, Deep, Soulful etc whereas not many people like to reach out within this scene

Ive been playin the whole Grime/Dubstep/Garage since the years of evolution of the sounds along with also pickin up House a good few years back (because of the places i am from) and where i am living now i have a pirate show (liverpool) this did used to be pretty occupied with Dubstep & Grime and still is and ive always been quite fortunate to get tracks from certain people plus ive reached out to just get the best music from anybody making Grime & Dubstep (allthough Dubstep is easy to pick up in this city) but as of late because of House music and how easily accesible it is and how many people reach out i can find myself being able to do House shows with ALOT more variation from week to week than Grime ones, to the point now im gettin bored of playing Grime

I do agree and think that artists need to get out speakin to the DJs alot more in Grime but then also the DJs need to dig a little deeper aswell and find that fresh music cause if you compare it to the House (again including Funky) then the artists from these scenes all seem to have mailing lists and if you have the smallest proof of being a dj to an audience then you get on these lists - this may be down to the fact that its more of a club scene than Grime but still Grime has never been that friendly as a scene and giving out tracks

[Wiz]

Wouldn't that mean even less variety then?

[The Elijah]

Maybe they should consider 1 hour shows. Shorter show, but overall, a lot higher level of music?

Impractical for loads of reasons.

[Steez]

Impractical for loads of reasons.
Maybe, podcasts and mixes etc. all weigh in at around 30 mins to an hour though. Most people regard them as good times, decent amount of music, and usually they're sick.

[The Elijah]

@ Big C

Yep, thats down to it being club music. There isnt a need for massive mailing lists in Grime as not a lot of people are playing it, and it brings that whole leaking problem, which will hurt a Grime artist more then it will a house one, as they sell more units.

I am saying there isn't enough good Grime in the shops.

And with the new artists thing, DJs generally want to support artists and not tunes. I would rather push Royal Ts name in anything I do, then say, this tune 1UP is brilliant. You see the difference? So I have to be sure that the person is going to be around for a while before you start pushing their music. Cant be playing 20 different producers each week, it will be inconsistent.

[kossa]

Maybe they should consider 1 hour shows. Shorter show, but overall, a lot higher level of music?

an hour is too short

[Wiz]

Makes sense for podcasts and mix downloads. But having a radio set shortened doesn't make sense.

[Steez]

Makes sense for podcasts and mix downloads. But having a radio set shortened doesn't make sense.


an hour is too short

Reasons?

[kossa]

i can remember logan saying he played nothing but 100% grime dont seem like that anymore

[The Elijah]

Reasons?

You would have 2 double the amount of Djs on the station

Would have more repetition throughout the day.

Cant build as good a rapport with an audience in an hour then you can in 2

Having people coming in and out every hour

Lateness

Long

[The Elijah]

i can remember logan saying he played nothing but 100% grime dont seem like that anymore

yea all that camron, crazy cousins and estelle music hes been playing recentlys a par

[kossa]

yea all that camron, crazy cousins and estelle music hes been playing recentlys a par


i werent saying that played that shit but he does play a few other bits i wouldnt expect him to play it even goes for the mcs too jumping on funky and some other shit it doesnt help

[E72]

Funky Is Big Battyhole Ting, Man Dancin Like Sum Homos, Smiley Faces, Etc Etc Fuk Dat Shit....

Im Fully On Dis Grime Ting S8 Greeze All Day!

Grime >>> Funky

[Wiz]

They need Mak Ten on Rinse. He plays more of that grime-sounding funky.
All the funky sets I hear on Rinse have that ambient soft sounding stuff.

[Miyagi Dan]

True what Elijah is saying, the music is there but some dj's need to take a chance and play stuff from new or relatively unknown producers. IMO that's the problem certain dj's would rather play different music all together if they haven't got nothing new from people like rudekid skeamz etc

[Scratcha/DVA]

Name 5.

Dont hear Skream on rinse playing crazy cousins do you?

Skream likes an slyly makes funky. dnt know if hes gona use hes name tho but look at tracks like Fire work out. ther is a 130bpm edit of tht he done. benga buzzin 130 edit aswell.

[The Elijah]

im not doubting anyone making the stuff, chris t accused people of jumping ship which aint the case init.

[SPOOKY DJ]

its on his last show on the rinse blog
he said grime djs need to stop playing funky, 'old dusty funky' cos theyre swag at it
lol
fuckreez.

lol @ Geeneus thinking he can tell other DJs what to play
wel...its his station at the end of the day he wants to boy dem off fair enuff


Spooky needs to be back on rinse, his radio shows are sick, it helps that he makes sick beats as well
.....:sad:

Also, the complaints are a lot considering the amount of failed/given up grime producers who are into funky now. Geeneus himself, once played grime, and now plays funky.
bet u any money Gee has got grime that even Slimzee aint heard


When I'm at home playing fresher funky in my front room than someone with a slot on Rinse it's an odd situation.
its very odd indeed.

DJ Oddz - Strung Up (VIP MIX)

draw for it DJs

safe
10th april @ egg is u bruv

[Tony Starks]

Funky Is Big Battyhole Ting, Man Dancin Like Sum Homos, Smiley Faces, Etc Etc Fuk Dat Shit....

Im Fully On Dis Grime Ting S8 Greeze All Day!

Grime >>> Funky
well done...
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[E72]

well done...
u want a cookie or a badge?

Ur Fully Fagged Up.

[Major]

Spooky we know he does what he wants, We knew that from time he dashed you off the station.

Fact is, Geeneus don't like grime thats why hes making them BITTER comments all he had to say was "why would i put more grime when there playing funky" but no he had to add "dusty old funky" which goes to show.

Look when the guy banned grime off rinse just over 1 persons mistake, Geeneus was saying shit like "FUCK GRIME WHATS GRIME EVER DONE FOR ME"

My bet is he only lifted the ban, because he couldn't be bothered with all the people complaining to him that he must've parred off.

Hes just one of dem guys dat jumps ship what ever's hot at the time hes on it.

[Wiz]

Wasn't Geeneus gonna get back onto grime at one point?

[Danny Trejo]

Hes just one of dem guys dat jumps ship what ever's hot at the time hes on it.

Why did he move Silencer from 1-3 to drive time then?

[Major]

Why did he move Silencer from 1-3 to drive time then?

don't know maybe silencer bought him a pint or made him giggle.

[Steez]

Silencer pays for advertising.

[Danny Trejo]

I don't know why I'm pretending I care actually.

[Tony Starks]

Spooky we know he does what he wants, We knew that from time he dashed you off the station.

Fact is, Geeneus don't like grime thats why hes making them BITTER comments all he had to say was "why would i put more grime when there playing funky" but no he had to add "dusty old funky" which goes to show.

Look when the guy banned grime off rinse just over 1 persons mistake, Geeneus was saying shit like "FUCK GRIME WHATS GRIME EVER DONE FOR ME"

My bet is he only lifted the ban, because he couldn't be bothered with all the people complaining to him that he must've parred off.

Hes just one of dem guys dat jumps ship what ever's hot at the time hes on it.

repped fully
threads over lets go home

[DJSWEETBEATZ]

no tune is rinsed for arguments say jack may have heard eskimo for the first time today and now wants to follow grime, old tunes gettin played helps music move forward!

eskimo still get's reloads u dun kno! keepin it ol skool grimeee!!