Why's Wiley so dumb?

[L:P]

Dis guy brought through Dizzee, Stryder and Chip, all of who are bigga than him now (apart from chip who will be)

Eskibeat had some of da coldest MC's nd producers:

DotRotten
Chip
Icekid
Maniac
Blessbeats
Little Dee

Why did he let them buss out, without even makin no serious dow of them?
he should of kept them on his label and pushed the label. A PROPER DUMD YOUT LOL

[the spiral]

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[Grimes]

You see although the majority of this forum idolize Wiley, in reality if you have met or had the opportunity to be close to him , you would realize he's a oddball. Some say his idiosyncratic behavior comes from a substance abuse but who knows.

What i'm tryna say here, Is even though these people would work with Wiley, they don't want to work under wiley.

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20iyic6.gif

[cRiminal]

Wiley brought through the whole grime sound


deserves more respect than he gets.

[Grimes]

Wiley brought through the whole grime sound


deserves more respect than he gets.

This is a myth.

[the spiral]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20iyic6.gif

lol sick

he's always so confused by life

[Kaychi]

L: P. Take back the shit you just wrote!


even though these people would work with Wiley, they don't want to work under wiley.
^ what the architect said, i co-sign

[Grimes]

This is because he's a oddball,

[Vol. 3]

There's method to his madness, it all aides him in self promotion.


Wiley brought through the whole grime sound

deserves more respect than he gets.

That is a fair point.

[Grimes]

There's method to his madness, it all aides him in self promotion.

Skunk is his favorite method

[L:P]

take ur head out of his ass u shit face, he's good for bringing mcs through but when it comes to business he's a DUMB YOUT

[Nokia]

Wiley's had a no.2
Stryder only got to 3
Suck outtt

[D.MAN]

Dis guy brought through Dizzee, Stryder and Chip, all of who are bigga than him now (apart from chip who will be)

Eskibeat had some of da coldest MC's nd producers:

DotRotten
Chip
Icekid
Maniac
Blessbeats
Little Dee

Why did he let them buss out, without even makin no serious dow of them?
he should of kept them on his label and pushed the label. A PROPER DUMD YOUT LOL

stryder an chip are/gona be bigger

http://4bedtimestories.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ren-and-stimpy-idiot.jpg

[L:P]

wiley had a number 2 coz his a number 2, which means his shit lol. dizzee had a number one but i'm just saying if he was business minded he would of kept all them mcs on eskibeat and made money of them. wat wiley got couple thousands now but could of had couple mills, his label is dead out DUMB YOUT

[D.MAN]

big respect to dizzee for what he has done ,but i really wonder if he neva won the xl recordings ting..back in the day wud he really be where he is today

[L:P]

big respect to dizzzee for what he has done ,but i really wonder if he neva won the xl recordings ting..back in the day wud he really be where he is today

it seems like we have another dumb yout coz what i just said has nothing to do with ur comment.

i just wanna know why his dumb

[Grimes]

Where would logan be if he never won the kiss competition

speculation.

[Vol. 3]

wiley had a number 2 coz his a number 2, which means his shit lol. dizzee had a number one but i'm just saying if he was business minded he would of kept all them mcs on eskibeat and made money of them. wat wiley got couple thousands now but could of had couple mills, his label is dead out DUMB YOUT

Yes but Dizzee did it with a feature not on his ones. And Calvin Harris is poor, spoils the whole record for me personally.

[RIP Jakey]

Might be a good time for a neg train imo

[Kaychi]

wiley had a number 2 coz his a number 2, which means his shit lol. dizzee had a number one but i'm just saying if he was business minded he would of kept all them mcs on eskibeat and made money of them. wat wiley got couple thousands now but could of had couple mills, his label is dead out DUMB YOUT

you actually chat shit. i find your lack of knowledge hard to believe. he got a number 2, which means hes a number 2, which means hes shit.

so is dizz the best? well, according to your theory, he must be because he got a number 1.

tbh, the amount wiley has received from grime in a way makes up for his mistakes regarding artists.

[Grimes]

Yes but Dizzee did it with a feature not on his ones. And Calvin Harris is poor, spoils the whole record for me personally.

To be honest, WMR beat made the track (not to take away anything from wiley's concise catchy lyrics)

[L:P]

Where would logan be if he never won the kiss competition

speculation.

lol this forum is filled with dumb youts i swear. but logan is overatted believe

I just wanna know why wiley let all them artist leave his label, surely dats symptoms of a DUMB YOUT

[D.MAN]

it seems like we have another dumb yout coz what i just said has nothing to do with ur comment.

i just wanna know why his dumb

no my friend i just ignored ur ediat question and asked my own

[Vol. 3]

L : P to answer your question. You are assuming that Wiley is dumb, how can you form an opinion upon his level of intelligence when you do not know his IQ score or academic achievements.

Wiley cannot be that "dumb" otherwise he would not be in the position he's in now. Name another artist that's had more of an influence on the scene than Wiley an I'll consider changing my mind.

[L:P]

you actually chat shit. i find your lack of knowledge hard to believe. he got a number 2, which means hes a number 2, which means hes shit.

so is dizz the best? well, according to your theory, he must be because he got a number 1.

tbh, the amount wiley has received from grime in a way makes up for his mistakes regarding artists.

so u admit he made mistakes? but i wanna know what happened to eskibeats, thats all, rah u guys need to get ur head out of his ass.

Forget about wiley being number 2 and all dat

[Joe]

wiley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Nokia]

Wiley's so dumb, wouldn't surprise me if the topic starter is WILEY himself

[D.MAN]

Might be a good time for a neg train imo

.

[Grimes]

l : P to answer your question. You are assuming that wiley is dumb, how can you form an opinion upon his level of intelligence when you do not know his iq score or academic achievements.

Wiley cannot be that "dumb" otherwise he would not be in the position he's in now. Name another artist that's had more of an influence on the scene than wiley an i'll consider changing my mind.

lol

[RIP Jakey]

Wiley aint dumb, he is a bit of a div tho

[L:P]

L : P to answer your question. You are assuming that Wiley is dumb, how can you form an opinion upon his level intelligence when you do not know his IQ score or academic achievements.

Wiley cannot be that "dumb" otherwise he would not be in the position he's in now. Name another artist that's had more of an influence on the scene than Wiley an I'll consider changing my mind.

ur right, but how come he let all them artist leave his label? do u think jme would do that? okay wiley's in a good position now but look how long it took. if he was wise he could of chilled out made money of he's artist. Plus still been even bigger in da scene than he is now

[Kaychi]

Might be a good time for a neg train imo

Next Stop...L: P's rep

[L:P]

Next Stop...L: P's rep

. another DUMB YOUT lol

[SPOOKY DJ]

http://i39.tinypic.com/20iyic6.gif
always makes me laugh

Wiley's had a no.2
Stryder only got to 3
Suck outtt

dizzee got number 1 tho

[Kaychi]

so u admit he made mistakes? but i wanna know what happened to eskibeats, thats all, rah u guys need to get ur head out of his ass.

Forget about wiley being number 2 and all dat

course i admit he made mistakes, so has all MCs in one way or another. lol at out his ass tho, not even.

and as for the #2 thing...you seem to be the dumb one, you're the one that brought that up first.

if you only wanted info on eskibeat, you should of come better bruva, cant jus jump in and start slewing him personally and not have enough grounds to back up your nonsense.

[Vol. 3]

I'm not even trying to sound like a Wiley fan boy either, but another thing Wiley is a don at instrumentals, yeah Dizz made a couple nice beats but Wiley is superior when it comes to beats.

I mean he's still releasing them now.

[L:P]

course i admit he made mistakes, so has all MCs in one way or another. lol at out his ass tho, not even.

and as for the #2 thing...you seem to be the dumb one, you're the one that brought that up first.

if you only wanted info on eskibeat, you should of come better bruva, cant jus jump in and start slewing him personally and not have enough grounds to back up your nonsense.

there is no eski beat now so i know he's dumb many mcs make mistakes but he has made one too many, and dat was one BIG mistake to let all dem MC/Producers go, just look at where all dem MC's and producers are now, der mashin up da scene. DUMB YOUT

[Dioufy]

Rah wer all dem youngers signed or on his label??
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
mad talent, that woudda been a sick roster

[Nine Bar]

Wileys got more pea then your whole family tree have so you cant say shit son.

Signed up to make this bullshit, watching hard.

[Young Ben]

smh @ thinking Dizzee > Wiley cause of dizzee's number 1, anyone can make a pop record that will appeal to 13 year old girls... making good grime music is harder than making good pop music imo, and Wiley has a huge back catalogue of GREAT grime songs.

Also, him not having a good business mind does not mean he's thick.

[Tottybrer]

Wileys got more pea then your whole family tree have so you cant say shit son.

Signed up to make this bullshit, watching hard.

lool. and if you want to put a point across, stop insulting people who have a valid points kmt

[L:P]

Wileys got more pea then your whole family tree have so you cant say shit son.

Signed up to make this bullshit, watching hard.

ur chatting shit, that money will be done in couple months a couple bags of crack and it done believe lol.

[L:P]

Rah wer all dem youngers signed or on his label??
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
mad talent, that woudda been a sick roster

Took da words rite out my mouth, finally sum1 who understands. and because he never dun nutting wif dem artists, he's a dumby

[GrimmyGrimGrim]

eskibeat never even existed

shoe me one release

[Birdman]

This is a myth.

you're blatently so bitter at wiley


stick to your jd sports job cuz

[I LOVE GRIME]

wiley is a business genius, no question he should be alot bigger than what he is but what you have to give him credit for is makin real music that appeals to us, chip has been big for a maximum of 12 months and his music is already falling off regardless of his chart position his music is poor, scorcher was good aint made no big £££ his music has already fallen off, wiley is real to the grime massive! i ask you this question if wiley never bought thru all these people would grime have reached the heights it has would logans show have been created honestly i doubt it would of, i honestly believe that wiley will only be respected and credited properly when he is dead!

[L:P]

eskibeat never even existed

shoe me one release

Bless Beats - Hard Days Graft Vol. 1

[Wiz]

Wiley's rich

/thread

[Joe]

b4 3-0 im gonna be rich

[Quality Control]

why are man so concerned with watching Wiley's business moves

why do you care about his p

just listen to the music... or don't

[L:P]

wiley is a business genius, no question he should be alot bigger than what he is but what you have to give him credit for is makin real music that appeals to us, chip has been big for a maximum of 12 months and his music is already falling off regardless of his chart position his music is poor, scorcher was good aint made no big £££ his music has already fallen off, wiley is real to the grime massive! i ask you this question if wiley never bought thru all these people would grime have reached the heights it has would logans show have been created honestly i doubt it would of, i honestly believe that wiley will only be respected and credited properly when he is dead!

well someone better kill him, coz there is no real respect over here for him. his good i aint sayin he's crap, but if he wanted to really help them artist he brought through and himself he would of kept them on eskibeats, coz dey surely wudda bin bigga as a collective.

[L:P]

why are man so concerned with watching Wiley's business moves

why do you care about his p

just listen to the music... or don't

come on, i'm a grime fan so i care about the music scene, and every1's moves in da grime scene. dumb yout lol

[Quality Control]

come on, i'm a grime fan so i care about the music scene, and every1's moves in da grime scene. dumb yout lol
So why are you putting it all on Wiley

you want him to carry the scene on his own and then get upset when he doesn't?

and shut up about dumb, everything you've said is air

[I LOVE GRIME]

L: P answer this= if wiley did not exist would grime be as big as what it is now?

[Grimes]

L: P answer this= if wiley did not exist would grime be as big as what it is now?

A valid question

[L:P]

So why are you putting it all on Wiley

you want him to carry the scene on his own and then get upset when he doesn't?

and shut up about dumb, everything you've said is air

When did i say dat, im just observin da scene.

shut up wiley, how many accounts have you got?

[L:P]

L: P answer this= if wiley did not exist would grime be as big as what it is now?

Course not, but dats not da question i asked was it?

[GrimeReconnoiterer]

Eskibeat recordings made a CD but it never got released.

Eskibeat fell apart because the MC's couldn't get on with eachother.

Try and extend your volcabularic range as well, your repetition of "DUMB YOUT" makes you look like an uneducated wasteman.

[I LOVE GRIME]

l: p that may not have been your question but my question kills your question and is alot more important when you look at the bigger picture, no wiley = no dizzee,stryder,chip! wiley allowed all of these careers to go thru!

[Grimes]

it doesn't really kill his question

[L:P]

Eskibeat recordings made a CD but it never got released.

Eskibeat fell apart because the MC's couldn't get on with eachother.

Try and extend your volcabularic range as well, your repetition of "DUMB YOUT" makes you look like an uneducated wasteman.

i have to let u lot know his a Dumb yout. u don't have to comment back do you. So why u getting so hurt, get wiley's dick out ur mouth man...

[Channel_E-D]

If Dizzee and Wiley released Dance Wiv Me and Wearing My Rolex at the same time, Wiley would have charted higher.

The fact Dizzee got 1 and Wiley got 2 means nothing really...

[Grimes]

L : P is tryna defend himself against a full scale assault by a significant party of wiley fans

[D.MAN]

why are man so concerned with watching Wiley's business moves

why do you care about his p

just listen to the music... or don't


Dis guy brought through Dizzee, Stryder and Chip, all of who are bigga than him now (apart from chip who will be)

Eskibeat had some of da coldest MC's nd producers:

DotRotten
Chip
Icekid
Maniac
Blessbeats
Little Dee
Why did he let them buss out, without even makin no serious dow of them?
he should of kept them on his label and pushed the label. A PROPER DUMD YOUT LOL

are you one of these guys ..cause u seem to have some hidden agenda.
or are you just a myspace mc/producer that got aired by wiley

[L:P]

l: p that may not have been your question but my question kills your question and is alot more important when you look at the bigger picture, no wiley = no dizzee,stryder,chip! wiley allowed all of these careers to go thru!

ye i kno dat, i said dat to begin wif man.

[Quality Control]

maybe, just maybe, Dizzee, Tinchy and possibly Chipmunk are becoming bigger than Wiley because they are more marketable?... Just because they associated with him once upon a time doesn't mean Wiley's their ex-manager or some shit, they all play the game for themselves.

And Eskibeat was just a crew that never actually did anything together... Fell apart cos it wasn't put together properly in the first place, was like Wiley prematurely acted on an incomplete thought, didn't think it through. It's hardly like man was in charge of Def Jam and still managed to fuck it up somehow

[I LOVE GRIME]

it doesn't really kill his question

it does cos as i said no wiley = no grime scene!
eskimo is da biggest fing in grimes history
dizzee= da biggest mc 2 have come from da grime scene
chip= next big fing 2 come from grime
stryder= big mc soon as wiley come man was killing sidewinders 4 fun making tunes expanding lyrically

now what do all these artists have in common erm could it be that without wiley they would not be succesful?

[Channel_E-D]

L : P is tryna defend himself against a full scale assault by a significant party of wiley fans

Yeah but Grime-wise Wiley >>

[L:P]

maybe, just maybe, Dizzee, Tinchy and possibly Chipmunk are becoming bigger than Wiley because they are more marketable?... Just because they associated with him once upon a time doesn't mean Wiley's their ex-manager or some shit, they all play the game for themselves.

And Eskibeat was just a crew that never actually did anything together... Fell apart cos it wasn't put together properly in the first place, was like Wiley prematurely acted on an incomplete thought, didn't think it through. It's hardly like man was in charge of Def Jam and still managed to fuck it up somehow

Therefore the fact that it wasn't put together properly in the first place, with all dat talent means he's a DUMB YOUT!!!!

[Joe]

maybe, just maybe, Dizzee, Tinchy and possibly Chipmunk are becoming bigger than Wiley because they are more marketable?... Just because they associated with him once upon a time doesn't mean Wiley's their ex-manager or some shit, they all play the game for themselves.

And Eskibeat was just a crew that never actually did anything together... Fell apart cos it wasn't put together properly in the first place, was like Wiley prematurely acted on an incomplete thought, didn't think it through. It's hardly like man was in charge of Def Jam and still managed to fuck it up somehow

.

[L:P]

it does cos as i said no wiley = no grime scene!
eskimo is da biggest fing in grimes history
dizzee= da biggest mc 2 have come from da grime scene
chip= next big fing 2 come from grime
stryder= big mc soon as wiley come man was killing sidewinders 4 fun making tunes expanding lyrically

now what do all these artists have in common erm could it be that without wiley they would not be succesful?

Fam, it don't answer da question tho. Why is wiley so dumb, for lettin all dem artists go?

[L:P]

i can understand why he let lil dee go lol lol

[I LOVE GRIME]

Therefore the fact that it wasn't put together properly in the first place, with all dat talent means he's a DUMB YOUT!!!!

rubbish it means dat he had a vision, unfortunatley it never panned out the way he wished and realistically only a few members of the original eski beat label could handle the pressure of being associated with wiley example of this is bless,chip,maniac= hard workers excellent workrate=success!

[Quality Control]

Therefore the fact that it wasn't put together properly in the first place, with all dat talent means he's a DUMB YOUT!!!!

would have been very unlikely to work no matter who tried to put it together

at least Wiley attempted to make a squad to help bring young artists through, even if he did mis-execute it... and i doubt anyone else in the scene would have had the initiative to give it a go and come as close as he did

no one does as much for the up-n-comers as Wiley

[Joe]

would have been very unlikely to work no matter who tried to put it together

at least Wiley attempted to make a squad to help bring young artists through, even if he did mis-execute it... and i doubt anyone else in the scene would have had the initiative to give it a go and come as close as he did

no one does as much for the up-n-comers as Wiley

excellent point

[I LOVE GRIME]

i can understand why he let lil dee go lol lol


lil dee is not good he is jus liked cos he is white if he was black no1 would care, when a white mc spits about the stuff he does people pay attention fact!

[L:P]

rubbish it means dat he had a vision, unfortunatley it never panned out the way he wished and realistically only a few members of the original eski beat label could handle the pressure of being associated with wiley example of this is bless,chip,maniac= hard workers excellent workrate=success!

Ok den so lets say if God's Gift or Flowdan, or any one of dem elder MC's had made da same mistake, all of you man in dis forum, wudda got onto him. Wiley aint no God, cum on gee

[Grimes]

No 1's disputing wiley's significance in the scene just askiing a question about his intelligence concerning handling over people.

[S.Man]

Wiley is too stubborn to adhere to label influence..which he should be respected for as he doesnt want to sell out and stay true to the scene that he somewhat founded.

On the other hand it makes him dumb because he could be where dizzee is if he took other peoples advice on board and weave their business intentions in with his own.

Have to respect the man tho.

[Grimes]

it does cos as i said no wiley = no grime scene!
eskimo is da biggest fing in grimes history
dizzee= da biggest mc 2 have come from da grime scene
chip= next big fing 2 come from grime
stryder= big mc soon as wiley come man was killing sidewinders 4 fun making tunes expanding lyrically

now what do all these artists have in common erm could it be that without wiley they would not be succesful?

no.

Its these distorted views that annoy me

[I LOVE GRIME]

gift made da same mistake mwp had all the elements to be succesful, wiley simply does not understand the music scene on a global scale, grime scene yes but to outsiders he does not have a clue he goes round in circles which is stupid but he has the intention!

[L:P]

no.

Its these distorted views that annoy me

Finally, someone who kno's, lol.

[I LOVE GRIME]

no.

Its these distorted views that annoy me

how am i wrong? i been listening to garage/grime since living legends 8pm monday on delight fm, fam its da truth wiley made da grime scene what it is!

[Quality Control]

No 1's disputing wiley's significance in the scene just askiing a question about his intelligence concerning handling over people.

He's more likely to fail in those matters as he tries to do so much more than anyone else, just probabilities

He's never unintentionally harmed anyone's career through misguidance (that I can recall) so he's hardly doing damage, it's just his efforts are fruitless a lot of the time

for himself anyway, you could say he's been a success for the scene and has helped develop a lot of now prominent artists

and i don't think it's a secret that man's not Alan Sugar but he gets a lot of unneeded flack over stuff that shouldn't be the concern of anyone but him and his accountant

[Jimmer]

L:P Your a dick bruv, gtfo the forum.

[KingSizeBlues]

how am i wrong? i been listening to garage/grime since living legends 8pm monday on delight fm, fam its da truth wiley made da grime scene what it is!

is that YOU jeeday?

[Quality Control]

Wiley is too stubborn to adhere to label influence..which he should be respected for as he doesnt want to sell out and stay true to the scene that he somewhat founded.

On the other hand it makes him dumb because he could be where dizzee is if he took other peoples advice on board and weave their business intentions in with his own.

Have to respect the man tho.

See Clear Now anyone?

[I LOVE GRIME]

is that YOU jeeday?

no not jeeday

[L:P]

how am i wrong? i been listening to garage/grime since living legends 8pm monday on delight fm, fam its da truth wiley made da grime scene what it is!

to tell u the truth wiley only co-signed them artist so he could suck their talent and styles and make himself a better mc . he thinks he's wise, i smart man like jme would be of signed them all but dizzee is a dumb yout though he signed d-double and footsee

[Grimes]

how am i wrong? i been listening to garage/grime since living legends 8pm monday on delight fm, fam its da truth wiley made da grime scene what it is!

you must be listening upside down then.

No doubt if wiley wasn't around the grime landscape would be different but to say wiley= grime is a foolish thing to say. The implication of that statement is that if wiley doesn't exist neither does grime which is silly. That is to ignore the foundations that garage set for Grime completely and other notable mentions. The initiative that was grime isn't dependent on one person i'm sorry to say thus couldn't be halted by one person, people do not operate in isolation.

[I LOVE GRIME]

to tell u the truth wiley only co-signed them artist so he could suck their talent and styles and make himself a better mc . he thinks he's wise, i smart man like jme would be of signed them all but dizzee is a dumb yout though he signed d-double and footsee

lmfao haha fam dizze and foots smash up dubstep and grime fact
dubstep outsells grime by miles fact
dubstep is accepted around europe and the world fact, jus look at bengs,scream,hatcha bookings
combine the two 2geva u have a incredible idea that creates £££

[L:P]

L:P Your a dick bruv, gtfo the forum.

listen here jimmy, i hate to break the news to u but ur dad wiley is a stupid guy. All man is sayin, is wiley is dumb, so many of u are gettin offended like i cussed ur family

[Jimmer]

Some serious u turns goin on in this thread

[L:P]

lmfao haha fam dizze and foots smash up dubstep and grime fact
dubstep outsells grime by miles fact
dubstep is accepted around europe and the world fact, jus look at bengs,scream,hatcha bookings
combine the two 2geva u have a incredible idea that creates £££

okaaayyy, man kno's dats tru, but dubsteps a whole diffrent genre, u get me? in terms of grime, dem man are deadout

[L:P]

Some serious u turns goin on in this thread

.

[Jimmer]

listen here jimmy, i hate to break the news to u but ur dad wiley is a stupid guy. All man is sayin, is wiley is dumb, so many of u are gettin offended like i cussed ur family

Bruv who cares about eskibeat being shit or who wiley never signed etc.
At the end of the day, what will be will be. You cant change the past, only learn from mistakes. Get me?

[I LOVE GRIME]

okaaayyy, man kno's dats tru, but dubsteps a whole diffrent genre, u get me? in terms of grime, dem man are deadout

foots and dee are huge they are possibly the only grime mcs who can bars up dubstep and people will care about and as for grime they are legends no1 can talk 2 dee and foots

[Grimes]

exactly

[L:P]

Bruv who cares about eskibeat being shit or who wiley never signed etc.
At the end of the day, what will be will be. You cant change the past, only learn from mistakes. Get me?

true i hear that but he keeps on making mistakes. when do u laern? jimmy when will ur old man learn lol? he has contributed alot to grime but the scene could of been bigger if he hadn't made those mistakes.

[L:P]

foots and dee are huge they are possibly the only grime mcs who can bars up dubstep and people will care about and as for grime they are legends no1 can talk 2 dee and foots

british gasing it lol

[Quality Control]

true i hear that but he keeps on making mistakes. when do u laern? jimmy when will ur old man learn lol? he has contributed alot to grime but the scene could of been bigger if he hadn't made those mistakes.

Why is it on Wiley's back to make the scene bigger though?

in fact, he does try to help it more than he probably should but all he gets is slewed for his efforts

he's just an artist like everyone else in the scene...

[I LOVE GRIME]

Why is it on Wiley's back to make the scene bigger though?

in fact, he does try to help it more than he probably should but all he gets is slewed for his efforts

he's just an artist like everyone else in the scene...

excellent point and da answer is because in reality we all no if the scene is going to achieve what it should wiley is a major player!
wiley= alex ferguson of grime!

[Jimmer]

true i hear that but he keeps on making mistakes. when do u laern? jimmy when will ur old man learn lol? he has contributed alot to grime but the scene could of been bigger if he hadn't made those mistakes.

Personally i think you have just come here to cause some controversy. If you dont like wiley or whatever fair play. Mabye if you had came differently instead of overusing the word dumb people woulda give you more of a chance.

[FlashG]

true i hear that but he keeps on making mistakes. when do u laern? jimmy when will ur old man learn lol? he has contributed alot to grime but the scene could of been bigger if he hadn't made those mistakes.

"My Mistakes Are Made By Me. Your Mistakes Are Made By You"

[E72]

Wiley = Grime.

[I LOVE GRIME]

Wiley = Grime.

spot on!!!

[Danny Trejo]

lol @ thinking Eskibeat was anything more than a myspace and a t-shirt

[Quality Control]

lol @ thinking Eskibeat was anything more than a myspace and a t-shirt

exactly, and this slow motherfucker L: P said Wiley could have made millions off it :huh::lol:

[R-Style]

there is no eski beat now so i know he's dumb many mcs make mistakes but he has made one too many, and dat was one BIG mistake to let all dem MC/Producers go, just look at where all dem MC's and producers are now, der mashin up da scene. DUMB YOUT

i beg man stop sayin DUMB YOUT after everything

**negged for being a DUMB YOUT**

[Nine Bar]

lool. and if you want to put a point across, stop insulting people who have a valid points kmt

Valid point? I doubt you have a valid bone in your body with the bullshit you write son.

I cba to defend a man who doesnt need defending anyway, open your eyes people.

[L:P]

Wiley = Grime.

So ur sayin a whole genre is one man, dats ridiculous. Cum betta dan dat

[L:P]

lol @ thinking Eskibeat was anything more than a myspace and a t-shirt

Okey then, so why was there a national release on eski beat? if it was only a myspace and a t-shirt??

[Joe]

she's glowing out march 30th!

[L:P]

Personally i think you have just come here to cause some controversy. If you dont like wiley or whatever fair play. Mabye if you had came differently instead of overusing the word dumb people woulda give you more of a chance.

No i've come on here, to show you guys that wiley has some mistakes, and he if he was cleverer he and probably the grime scene could have been alot bigger. i'm not saying i like or dislike wiley just making observations fam.

[I LOVE GRIME]

So ur sayin a whole genre is one man, dats ridiculous. Cum betta dan dat

no it has evolved into a national scene, but the person who deserves credit and recognition is wiley he has not stopped working in his cause to make grime a global sound!

[Grimes]

you must be listening upside down then.

No doubt if wiley wasn't around the grime landscape would be different but to say wiley= grime is a foolish thing to say. The implication of that statement is that if wiley doesn't exist neither does grime which is silly. That is to ignore the foundations that garage set for Grime completely and other notable mentions. The initiative that was grime isn't dependent on one person i'm sorry to say thus couldn't be halted by one person, people do not operate in isolation.
.

[Grimes]

no it has evolved into a national scene, but the person who deserves credit and recognition is wiley he has not stopped working in his cause to make grime a global sound!

then your equation is wrong

[L:P]

no it has evolved into a national scene, but the person who deserves credit and recognition is wiley he has not stopped working in his cause to make grime a global sound!

So wot about wen he sed he was retiring? man weren't releasing nufink?

[Quality Control]

Wiley played a significant role in pioneering grime but he didn't create it... it would still have come about without him

some guys act like he just invented it one day after a lightbulb turned on above his head

[L:P]

Wiley played a significant role in pioneering grime but he didn't create it... it would still have come about without him

some guys act like he just invented it one day after a lightbulb turned on above his head

lol, fank you

[Grimes]

this just detracts from the original argument

[L:P]

True dat

[I LOVE GRIME]

no1 says wiley made it! he jus grabbed it around the neck and made it his and has alot of power and control in the scene, he has taken the scene as far as he can really and truely the only person who can make grime into the world sound it should be dont want nefing to do with grime

[Grimes]

You are chatting shit still

[I LOVE GRIME]

You are chatting shit still

aimed at who architect?

[L:P]

You are chatting shit still

True Stories

[FlashG]

You are chatting shit still

Don't we all

Like u said he's a coke head and an oddball in real life, When hes jus over generous and nice. - What Class's as bein normal these days though?

but yeh Wileys The Godfather and all these discussions jus prove the point. Either the ones for and against!

[Grimes]

Wiley is a very eccentric person .

i never called him a cokehead still(not in this thread)

[Grimes]

aimed at who architect?

The whole making grime a global sound rhetoric.

originally you were speaking some sense, but you have seemed to run out of steam and having to modify your argument every 2posts

[FlashG]

You see although the majority of this forum idolize Wiley, in reality if you have met or had the opportunity to be close to him , you would realize he's a oddball. Some say his idiosyncratic behavior comes from a substance abuse but who knows.

What i'm tryna say here, Is even though these people would work with Wiley, they don't want to work under wiley.

Maybe not but close enough

Have U had the opportunity to be close to him to call him an oddball? Just curious

[Joe]

wiley threads always go multi plat

[Grimes]

Maybe not but close enough

close enough to what When i clearly never called him a cokehead.

I still stand by calling wiley a oddball/eccentric/idiosyncratic person

just look at his catalogue of posts on RWD forum.

[I LOVE GRIME]

in grime at the moment the only person who is trying to build a platform 4 grime is wiley the only person who wants himself and others around him to go far is wiley,
realest talk ever if so solid never broke up and was on grime, grime would have had alot of number ones and grime would now be considerd commercial music!

[Grimes]

Maybe not but close enough

Have U had the opportunity to be close to him to call him an oddball? Just curious

I've met/spoken wiley several times in person but i'm not going to beg and say i'm close to him or even know him.

[Grimes]

FlashG your points are irrelevant and ridiculous. i dn't have to be a friend of a family to know wiley is different.

Look at his previous behaviour.

[Nine Bar]

Wiley threads are always bollocks man

[FlashG]

I've met/spoken wiley several times in person but i'm not going to beg and say i'm close to him or even know him.

How can you fully judge a person from speaking to them a few times and posts in texts on a forum though?

But anyways Aint the legends/genius's in Music been so called 'OddBalls' Wouldnt say it's a bad point to be honest.

[Young Sen]

L: P... seckle, the reason Wiley ain't making much pea from the Eskibeat lot is because this man is

http://www.myspace.com/suge1

But yeah Wiley has missed out in some worthy investment's in the scene

[FlashG]

FlashG your points are irrelevant and ridiculous. i dn't have to be a friend of a family to know wiley is different.

Look at his previous behaviour.

Touchy Touchy, Only Opinions Like I'm listening to your's. to alot yours could be Irrelevant.

Or you going to judge me via text on a forum too? Kool lol

[I LOVE GRIME]

Wiley threads are always bollocks man

he is probably the only grime artists who every1 has an opinion on and its intresting to read peoples views! if you are not interested in adult discussion do not participate!

[Grimes]

How can you fully judge a person from speaking to them a few times and posts in texts on a forum though?

But anyways Aint the legends/genius's in Music been so called 'OddBalls' Wouldnt say it's a bad point to be honest.

Its not a fully judgement is an opinion which numerous people would agree with.

Sound like you suck wiley's balls tbh.

I acknowledge i dn't know the depths of his soul however i never claimed to.

[Grimes]

Touchy Touchy, Only Opinions Like I'm listening to your's. to alot yours could be Irrelevant.

Or you going to judge me via text on a forum too? Kool lol

why not ?

[FlashG]

Its not a fully judgement is an opinion which numerous people would agree with.

Sound like you suck wiley's balls tbh.

I acknowledge i dn't know the depths of his soul however i never claimed to.


I welcomed anyones opinion, Sounds like you take text too seriously mate.

Your 'Opinion' On me suckin Wileys balls is also wrong, Ridiculous and irrelevant!

[FlashG]

why not ?

U can judge me off text if u want mate, I don't really care lool

Take it easy.

[Grimes]

nah mate, i think your silly, your arguments silly.

Like i have to be there autobiographer to make a judgment on a person.

ridiculous.

And your claiming to welcome people's opinion, come off it.

[Quality Control]

so can we all agree QC is the greatest wiley stan of all time

[Nine Bar]

he is probably the only grime artists who every1 has an opinion on and its intresting to read peoples views! if you are not interested in adult discussion do not participate!

Yeh and threads always end up with bullshit like this.

About adult discussion, just cuz you browsing the adult swingers site dont mean your a big man.

Wiley is Grime as everyone knows, so why all the bullshit for?

[Grimes]

U can judge me off text if u want mate, I don't really care lool

Take it easy.

If you didn't care you wouldn't even be involved in this series of posts

[FlashG]

nah mate, i think your silly, your arguments silly.

Like i have to be there autobiographer to make a judgment on a person.

ridiculous.

And your claiming to welcome people's opinion, come off it.

WTF lool I aint even argueing anything,

Did i even say u had to be any of those things to make a judgement, Id rather make a judgement from like u said - - Getting the chance to be close to him or who ever I would be judging. Then i'd accept the opinion more.

All I asked is how you can fully judge some one and call them an Oddball from speaking to them once or twice and off text in a next forum? I'm just curious your opinion cant be that backed up from judging just from those things.

[The Egghead]

The way you keep sayin " DUMB YOUT" sound's like you're jeeday.

It also sounds like you've been parred off by Wiley.

I'm probably wrong but its a forum lol.

[FlashG]

If you didn't care you wouldn't even be involved in this series of posts


No, I dont care if u judge me via text, Thats up to u not any one else, Don't twist this into something else like you seem to cleverly do.

That was strictly answering you on judging me from writing in a forum.

Enjoy your night.

[I LOVE GRIME]

Yeh and threads always end up with bullshit like this.

About adult discussion, just cuz you browsing the adult swingers site dont mean your a big man.

Wiley is Grime as everyone knows, so why all the bullshit for?

im not here to abuse and slander people so i will ignore that, unfortunatley certain people do ruin threads like this and they do go off topic!
in reality we all no the answers but certain people are in denial!

[zoot crack]

wiley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



all the dudes on the label r cool or whatever but wiley should be focused on hi own shit anyway


also roll deep coz they used to be big but there slippin to nuttin

[Retrofreak]

wiley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



all the dudes on the label r cool or whatever but wiley should be focused on hi own shit anyway


also roll deep coz they used to be big but there slippin to nuttin

lol:laugh:

[AllstarParr]

i think wileys realised after he got his no.2 that he hasnt made the most of his career.

[Tottybrer]

huh^

[AllstarParr]

like i think he realised hes hit the charts a bit too late. coulda done it earlier in his career, which woulda led to more p

[Joe]

wiley>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



all the dudes on the label r cool or whatever but wiley should be focused on hi own shit anyway


also roll deep coz they used to be big but there slippin to nuttin

.

[LC1]

smh @ thinking Dizzee > Wiley cause of dizzee's number 1, anyone can make a pop record that will appeal to 13 year old girls... making good grime music is harder than making good pop music imo, and Wiley has a huge back catalogue of GREAT grime songs.

Also, him not having a good business mind does not mean he's thick.

no hate but that is a shocker....... any punk can go on fruity loops create a 16 bar banger..

pop music (however shit) is serious, the melodies, chord progression, mastering etc are generally leagues apart.

[Grime_E]

r u dumb dont believe da hype da only person wiley aint bigger dan on dat list is dizzie

[alexcallous]

nah mate, nowdays dizzee is swaggo though, fari enough he made p or whatever, from what i see from that newham generals video ting on w/wood though, pooooooorrrrr..and i mean poor.

i cant see how you think them man r better than wiley, half of his bars the crowd know off by heart..

annoying

wiley-dapa in grime, & ure a hater if you dissagree

[Equilibrium]

the godfather thing got to peoples heads
hes not some all knowing mastermind who orchestrated grimes upcoming, but hes probably the most talented innovative artist to come out the scene and his involvement in certain things pushed the scene forward greatly and that is still showing today.

its been said in the thread already wiley aint dumb hes just an 'oddball' which obviously the threadmaker mis took to be a sign of stupidity, my honest opinion is that he knows what he wants to do, he has a great eye for talent and knows who can blow but just doesnt know how to get it done...

[DanGargon]

are you one of these guys ..cause u seem to have some hidden agenda.
or are you just a myspace mc/producer that got aired by wiley

L.P - Sum Ian beal sending for Phil Mitchell.

Musta seen wiley in his sisters/wifeys phone.

[L:P]

Don't worry bout me, all u guys need 2 get off wileys ass

[Eagle]

Touchy Touchy, Only Opinions Like I'm listening to your's. to alot yours could be Irrelevant.

Or you going to judge me via text on a forum too? Kool lol


just gave you wasteman status

prick

[Equilibrium]

just gave you wasteman status

prick

be careful man, u dont wanna mess wit big hater from rwd

[Selenki jj]

Dis guy brought through Dizzee, Stryder and Chip, all of who are bigga than him now (apart from chip who will be)

Eskibeat had some of da coldest MC's nd producers:

DotRotten
Chip
Icekid
Maniac
Blessbeats
Little Dee

Why did he let them buss out, without even makin no serious dow of them?
he should of kept them on his label and pushed the label. A PROPER DUMD YOUT LOL

bruv your actualy a total dounut , the ppl u listed . will has got more pee and has made more pee then all of them .
waja expect him to do . say to them u blew fru me so u owe me p ????

dont be a speng ..... stupid posts like dis get on my nerves man .....

[Diss04]

bruv your actualy a total dounut , the ppl u listed . will has got more pee and has made more pee then all of them .
waja expect him to do . say to them u blew fru me so u owe me p ????

dont be a speng ..... stupid posts like dis get on my nerves man .....

i could be wrong but i'd wager that wiley aint got more cash that dizzee

[alexcallous]

L.P - Sum Ian beal sending for Phil Mitchell.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhfyiU3I89M

(i tried embedding buut it wudnt work...pissed..junior spesh)

[Selenki jj]

I said ppl he listed .. Theres only one list in da post mate

list as

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he aint got more money then diz . But every one else

[S.Man]

See Clear Now anyone?

But that was thrawt with problems. Wiley even came out and said he didnt put effort into it.

If he actually cared about a project and so did the label then the outcome maybe different. That album was signed off the back of a single which i dont think ever works!

[Master Jagan]

Oh yeyeye it's a coke ting

[smilez16]

wiley had a number 2 coz his a number 2, which means his shit lol. Dizzee had a number one but i'm just saying if he was business minded he would of kept all them mcs on eskibeat and made money of them. Wat wiley got couple thousands now but could of had couple mills, his label is dead out dumb yout

dumb yout!!!

[Eagle]

be careful man, u dont wanna mess wit big hater from rwd


oh shit

he's got black bally and everything

fuck im in trouble now

[L:P]

bruv your actualy a total dounut , the ppl u listed . will has got more pee and has made more pee then all of them .
waja expect him to do . say to them u blew fru me so u owe me p ????

dont be a speng ..... stupid posts like dis get on my nerves man .....

shut ur mouth! fam ur chatting shit, wat u said has nothing to do with the topic, if u swiped wiley sperm from ur eyes u'll see what i'm talking about DUMD YOUT

[L:P]

Alright dead it, coz it seems like smilez16 sucks on wiley's left ball bag and jimmer has the right one and the rest of u lot need to come off his dick. i repeat i repeat the topic is why wiley allowed all them artist to leave? if wiley came on here an explained himself that would be cool.

[kossa]

^^^^^^^^^^how do you know that he allowed them to leave?

[SPOOKY DJ]

he aint got more money then diz . But every one else

but out of grime will's made da most grime money

[Jimmer]

Alright dead it, coz it seems like smilez16 sucks on wiley's left ball bag and jimmer has the right one and the rest of u lot need to come off his dick. i repeat i repeat the topic is why wiley allowed all them artist to leave? if wiley came on here an explained himself that would be cool.

Lol you dont quit do you.

[L:P]

^^^^^^^^^^how do you know that he allowed them to leave?

listen lets make this clear, i think wiley is top 5 and he has always been. but wiley has power and inflences a lot of mcs. he allowed to leave coz he never done nothing with them. he just kept them there and learnt their styles and uses it to improve.

[kossa]

you dont know what your on about most people in the scene send for him and the only people in that list worth signing are dot,maniac,bless and maybe chipmunk but the rest aint worth it and how can you say he uses their styles

[L:P]

skills flows, creative patterns etc

[kossa]

so your saying he took their flows

[Grimes]

thats a big claim

[kossa]

its a big claim but this guy is chattin shit and doesnt even know what he is on about

[L:P]

Wiley took goodz's flow from bak in da day dat woz partly y dey beefed in da first place, him and lethal had dat clash wich iz on youtube also over a flow, wiley dus it all da time, it is y he has lastd so long. He used skepta's flow as well

[L:P]

thats a big claim

no way

[L:P]

its a big claim but this guy is chattin shit and doesnt even know what he is on about

whateva wiley i mean kossa lol

[kossa]

i dont care who took whos flow but you made a thread about wiley not using his head or utilising who he had signed

[L:P]

i dont care who took whos flow but you made a thread about wiley not using his head or utilising who he had signed

you were the one who took it off point, i'm explaining the answer hear. My original argument is that WILEY WAS DUMB FOR LETTING THOSE GUYS GO. That team could've been the strongest

[L:P]

i dont care who took whos flow but you made a thread about wiley not using his head or utilising who he had signed

shut ur face, i made a thread and it was about eskibeats. i'm saying its as if he just done that to steal flows and producing methods just to improve. once he learnt all their styles and creative ability he let them go.

[Grimes]

Yeah wiley sniped a couple flows but who hasn't.

he jacked skeptas flow more recently

[kossa]

shut ur face, i made a thread and it was about eskibeats. i'm saying its as if he just done that to steal flows and producing methods just to improve. once he learnt all their styles and creative ability he let them go.

why would he needed to steal ideas on producing the guy is one of the best producers in the scene

[L:P]

Yeah wiley sniped a couple flows but who hasn't.

he jacked skeptas flow more recently

u dont get my point so allow it lol, nah joking but try understand wat i mean

[L:P]

why would he needed to steal ideas on producing the guy is one of the best producers in the scene

shut up wiley u dumb yout

[L:P]

why would he needed to steal ideas on producing the guy is one of the best producers in the scene

ur so dumb man, Wiley's bin around for time, but so have other mc's/producers, but he's da only one 2 have remained on top, dats because he's taken their, flows and styles 2 remain on top.

[kossa]

yout im probably older then you

you made a thread about wiley being stupid for letting these people go and then you said he only signed them to copy their flow and producing styles so really he aint stupid its clever

[L:P]

yout im probably older then you

you made a thread about wiley being stupid for letting these people go and then you said he only signed them to copy their flow and producing styles so really he aint stupid its clever

he's dumb in a business sense u dik, he cudda made nuff money off dem, while still copying their flow and producing styles

[kossa]

i dont care about flows and i think morgue was the only beat i can remember where he used someone else style for a tune

[L:P]

i dont care about flows and i think morgue was the only beat i can remember where he used someone else style for a tune

.

[L:P]

i dont care about flows and i think morgue was the only beat i can remember where he used someone else style for a tune

so u admit he's dumb for letting them go?

[Jay]

To think that Wiley could have made big money from those guys is retarded. To think that Wiley had any control over them guys other than writing them in a list is retarded. Wiley isn't a dumb guy, he wouldn't be where he is today if he were dumb. You are completely lost just rambling on.

[kossa]

no why is he dumb as i said before you dont know the reasons they left and there was only 3 out of 6 worth keeping anyway

[L:P]

To think that Wiley could have made big money from those guys is retarded. To think that Wiley had any control over them guys other than writing them in a list is retarded. Wiley isn't a dumb guy, he wouldn't be where he is today if he were dumb. You are completely lost just rambling on.

Shut up, u shit head. Wiley could've made money off dem guys, course he could look where dey all are now??? Course he had influence over them, he brought through a load of them (not all). And therefor is dumb for letting them go.

[DoubleU7]

it seems like we have another dumb yout coz what i just said has nothing to do with ur comment.

i just wanna know why his dumb

how long have you been listening to grime?

[L:P]

To think that Wiley could have made big money from those guys is retarded. To think that Wiley had any control over them guys other than writing them in a list is retarded. Wiley isn't a dumb guy, he wouldn't be where he is today if he were dumb. You are completely lost just rambling on.

dont let me put a light to ur gas talk famo, please allow it

[Hypez]

no why is he dumb as i said before you dont know the reasons they left and there was only 3 out of 6 worth keeping anyway

Yep exactly.

@the thread creator, I don't see how you can acuse him of being dumb, when you don't even know the full story...

[kossa]

Shut up, u shit head. Wiley could've made money off dem guys, course he could look where dey all are now??? Course he had influence over them, he brought through a load of them (not all). And therefor is dumb for letting them go.

your full of shit

[BananaMan]

Bang, I could never be a stupid man

[L:P]

Bang, I could never be a stupid man

lol clown

[critic of musical arts]

Another gas thread smh.

They might have wanted to do thier own thing or had qualms with each other.

Oh yea the thing about teething flows loool, Wiley was barring / had big flows before these done any music at all.

[alexcallous]

Shut up, u shit head. Wiley could've made money off dem guys, course he could look where dey all are now??? Course he had influence over them, he brought through a load of them (not all). And therefor is dumb for letting them go.

your argument is futile...

seriously

[Jay]

Your walking a thin line Luke, a thin line.

[I LOVE GRIME]

lol i cant believe this thread is still going on, wiley dont need to steal flows do i have to quote some of the big bars lol........... wiley is a legend, remaking or remixing bars,flow etc is a part of music, ragga,hip hop,grime its everywhere! i cant believe you are claiming he signed these people just to rip off there flows lol

[L:P]

Your walking a thin line Luke, a thin line.

thats right fam u betta talk to luke coz u could never chat to me like that u mad man. all u guys need to understand wiley must of got that group together just to steal their skills. coz boy better know is running, roll deep is running, he pulled a fast one on that, u pricks need to understand there is more to what mets the eye and in u lots case i dont mean wiley's sperm. lol

get off his dick

[L:P]

lol i cant believe this thread is still going on, wiley dont need to steal flows do i have to quote some of the big bars lol........... wiley is a legend, remaking or remixing bars,flow etc is a part of music, ragga,hip hop,grime its everywhere! i cant believe you are claiming he signed these people just to rip off there flows lol

thats bars not flows

[I LOVE GRIME]

can u prove this in anyway shape or form?

[Hypez]

thats right fam u betta talk to luke coz u could never chat to me like that u mad man. all u guys need to understand wiley must of got that group together just to steal their skills. coz boy better know is running, roll deep is running, he pulled a fast one on that, u pricks need to understand there is more to what mets the eye and in u lots case i dont mean wiley's sperm. lol

get off his dick

Okay so let's say he stole their "flows".. what has he achieved with it, that he couldn't do with his own flow?

[I LOVE GRIME]

Okay so let's say he stole their "flows".. what has he achieved with it, that he couldn't do with his own flow?

jack shit lol

[L:P]

Okay so let's say he stole their "flows".. what has he achieved with it, that he couldn't do with his own flow?

i'm not just talking about their flow i'm talking about everything they have to offer in the scene.

[kossa]

lp did he steal your flow too is that why your so pissed off

[I LOVE GRIME]

i'm not just talking about their flow i'm talking about everything they have to offer in the scene.

what can they bring that is fresh and exciting that wiley cant?

[L:P]

whateva wiley i know its u, are u allowed to have 20 different accounts? lol

[Retrofreak]

Wiley jacks peoples flows get over it.

[I LOVE GRIME]

we are waiting your reply???

[L:P]

i'm done with u pricks none of u lot can explain why he is a dumb yout, so its done this thread is over. its like science not everything can be explained i'm off AND " l LOVE GRIME", "kOSSA" NEED TO STOP LICKING WILEY ASS COZ U MIGHT GET CORN ON UR TONGUE. LOL

[kossa]

nah i dont like any ass just cause he probably sold you out over something dont come here acting like a bitch you are one stupid fucker

[I LOVE GRIME]

lmfao as i have said in previous posts im not gonna start verbally abusing people on the forum its childish! so you admit defeat and admit your post was pointless as you have been unable to prove your point!

[E72]

Wiley Is Da King Of Grime Show Respect (No Bred)

[L:P]

lmfao as i have said in previous posts im not gonna start verbally abusing people on the forum its childish! So you admit defeat and admit your post was pointless as you have been unable to prove your point!

u have been unable to answer so its long, the fact is wiley used them and buss out its simple. Eskibeats+label= day light robbery wiley, the new and improved wiley lol. I'm gone and i never verbally abuse i just state da truth. Catch me in a next thread

[kossa]

u have been unable to answer so its long, the fact is wiley used them and buss out its simple. Eskibeats+label= day light robbery wiley, the new and improved wiley lol. I'm gone and i never verbally abuse i just state da truth. Catch me in a next thread

how can he be dumb if he robbed them of their skills

[L:P]

how can he be dumb if he robbed them of their skills

he thought short term not long term thats why his dumd

[L:P]

Dumb

[zoot crack]

the amount of times i have seen the words DUMB YOUT in this thread is disgusting


and wiley is far from yout

[kossa]

lp is a dumb yout

[L:P]

I win u lose!! Dead out

[zoot crack]

gonna stop saying dumb yout please its putting me off this thread


overkill<<<<<<<<<<<<<

[L:P]

lp is a dumb yout

ur not even a dumb your just a yout so go watch ben 10 or something. coz the way ur going on i would of thought wiley shared the money he made of wearing my rolex with u.

[L:P]

gonna stop saying dumb yout please its putting me off this thread


overkill<<<<<<<<<<<<<

ermm...aww.....wait i can i put this fuck off then its simple u mug

[THOR!]

Architect = on point.

[kossa]

ur not even a dumb your just a yout so go watch ben 10 or something. coz the way ur going on i would of thought wiley shared the money he made of wearing my rolex with u.

what the fuck is ben 10 and i hated the rolex tune but i made a bit of £ off it and it got me a bentley :laugh:

[L:P]

so wiley tell me why did u allow them to leave, coz all the names i mentioned before have so much talent, but i can undertstand why u let lil dee go lol

[kossa]

^^^^^^^^^^he only posts on rwd sorry now fuck off there with your shit threads

[I LOVE GRIME]

so wiley tell me why did u allow them to leave, coz all the names i mentioned before have so much talent, but i can undertstand why u let lil dee go lol

correct me if im wrong but isnt lil dee in rolldeep?

[L:P]

and ur point is........baffed

[Maxsta]

no one understands wiley..... hes in his own world lol forgets almost everything...

[G.K.]

eskibeat never even existed

shoe me one release

Tunnel Vision 6 was

[KING!]

Y do u regard every1 as a 'dumb yout' jus cuh they dont agree with u.
Wiley dus what he does init. Maybe he didnt want 2 make money off other mcs.. He seems 2 do what he wants 2 do when he wants 2. But of coourse dat probably makes him a dumb yout init?

[Grimes]

his dumb yout rants kinda take away the credibility from thread