New sounds needed

[Lord Justice]

Hi, can anybody point me in the direct for a VST or sample pack or soemthing for some of the sort of signature unorthadox sounds in grime and also the very smooth kind of chanting? like a choir or something? can't explain it?

That and some decent snares and claps, i'm cool for bass, kick and hats at the moment.

Any help would be appreciated!

I've been working on a new beat it's on my page
http://www.myspace.com/boybetterknowadam

thanks,
Adam

['nuum general]

your probably best just sampling something you hear off a film or something

[Deset]

for choirs get philarmonik or nexus + orchestra expansion or if youve got the patience, dl ewqlsc... also google up 'free wav samples' your bound to find good ones

[Steez]

For chanting, get samples. African stuff is usually a lot, varies based on the region(s) recorded in though, and can be exceptionally hard to cut and loop nicely unless it's got a drum track of some kind.

[Steez]

dl ewqlso..
Pointless of most grime, the samples aren't sharp enough. The synth based stuff is better for grime imo.

[Deset]

yeah lol i wasted a whole week and a bit getting it, only to find its not compatible with fl using wordbuilder unless you use mfx which even then doesnt work properly.. on its own there are a few ok-ish sounds but as you said most of it isnt really hard hitting..

[Steez]

yeah lol i wasted a whole week and a bit getting it, only to find its not compatible with fl using wordbuilder unless you use mfx which even then doesnt work properly.. on its own there are a few ok-ish sounds but as you said most of it isnt really hard hitting..

Fucks sake. Why doesn't wordbuilder work? Haven't used it yet, but was planning to next week. Can you make stuff in the standalone version and import?

[Deset]

yeah i guess so but its a pain in the arse when using the timing etc just a case of trial and error..

Overview of the issues involved & the traditional solution
Users of FLStudio may be disappointed to discover that the Word Builder tool used to power the
EWQLSC library doesn’t load in FLStudio.
This is because the plugin format for Word Builder uses protocols which differ from ordinary VST
instruments. Word Builder uses a format known as VST-MA (VST-Module Architecture), or MFX
(MIDI-FX), neither of which FLStudio currently supports.
The generally accepted solution seems to be to run Word Builder and Symphonic Choirs as stand
alone applications (outside of FLStudio) and use a variety of virtual MIDI cables to control it.
Problems with the traditional approach
The problems I have found when running Symphonic Choirs and Word Builder as stand alone
applications are:
1. You have to install and configure another driver on your computer to reroute MIDI data
from FLStudio to Word Builder, and from Word Builder to Symphonic Choirs.
2. There is no easy way of getting the sound from Symphonic Choirs back into FLStudio, so
you either have to use a virtual audio cable to reroute audio into FLStudio or record your
choir tracks to disk and then import them into your project as audio files.
3. When you open your project in FLStudio, you also have to open the Word Builder and
Symphonic Choirs applications. You then have to load your saved vocals in Word Builder
and the voices you want to use into Symphonic Choirs.
4. Because of the above workarounds, workflow is severely degraded and there’s a lot of
going back and forth between FLStudio, Word Builder and Symphonic Choirs, which is
frustrating and impedes creativity.
An alternative, easier, and (I think so) better approach
Fortunately there is a way to load Word Builder inside FLStudio. This requires the download of one
VST shell plug-in, known as mfxshell.
Although it is an experimental plug-in with little technical support, on my system I found it works
flawlessly for Word Builder. All the above problems are cured, and all your edits in word builder
are loaded and saved within the FLP file itself, keeping everything together in the one application
and really smoothing out the workflow.
Basic Setup
Install mfxshell
1. Download this file, and extract mfxshell.dll into your VST folder:
http://xlutop.com/buzz/zip/dxshell_v1.01b.zip
2. Make sure you have Symphonic Choirs installed.
Load Symphonic Choirs in FLStudio
1. Open FLStudio
2. Right click on an empty channel, choose insert from the context menu.
3. Choose “More”
4. Click “Refresh” to find mfxshell
5. Select mfxshell
6. A small box will appear with the text “Word Builder [MFX]”, plus any other MFX plugins you
have installed. Click on Word Builder.
7. Now add a new channel for Symphonic Choirs VST
Get Word Builder and Symphonic Choirs working together
1. Set the input port of Word Builder to 1
2. Set the output port of Word Builder to 2
3. Set the input port of Symphonic Choirs to 2
Now you should be able to load a Multi in Symphonic Choirs, write some text in Word Builder, and
play Word Builder with your keyboard or edit the piano roll.
Finally, achieving full control
There is one final step that is necessary to get full control over the mod wheel and expression
controllers, if your keyboard does not natively support these features. If you don’t want to access
the mod wheel or expression controls of Symphonic Choirs, then you can skip this section, but I
think it’s worth the extra step:
1. Insert a Midi Out channel, and open the channel to edit the “plugin” settings.
2. Set the channel to 1 and the port to 1
3. Right click on one of the blank knobs and select “Configure”
4. Name it “Mod” for both long and short names, set the CC number to 1. This will give us
the ability to control and automate the mod wheel effects.
5. Configure another knob, call it “Expression” and set the CC number to 11. This gives us
control over the expression effects.
6. The EWQLSC manual gives details on other CC controller numbers that can be used for
various reasons, such as resetting Word Builder to the first word, holding a vowel, and so
on. You can automate all of these by configuring the knobs and sliders in the MIDI Out
plugin to correspond.
And that’s it. I can’t promise that this work around will work for all future versions of FLStudio and
Symphonic Choirs, but for the current releases this solution works fine and I’ve been able to open
multiple channels singing different parts with no problems.
The main thing is to make sure the input port of Symphonic Choirs matches the output port of Word
Builder, and you’re all set to go.
Feedback & Questions
If you have found this information useful

[Deset]

even then it usually doesnt work as well as expected and end up with only the higher notes working and some multis dont work at all! suppose you could rewire reason..........

[Steez]

Fuck that. Can't you just export as audio from Word Builder? That's dumb if you can't

[Deset]

not sure.. havent used wordbuilder standalone as i havent got a midi/virtual keyboard but im guessing you might be able to

[Steez]

Don't think it's about extracting and installing 9 DVDs worth to find out it's not useable lol

[Deset]

lol get me still though it is quite jokes when things do work on the rare occasion although some words wont work

[Deset]

for snares and claps id reccomend getting native instruments battery 3 (along with the 6gb library) its got everything there

[croydonbeats]

Look what I found... some snares (avoid the stupid "Boost your download speed" ads, link's underneath them).

http://www.sendspace.com/file/isvxnc

[FlashG]

Angular Momemtum got loads of nice free VST's

http://www.amvst.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=20