Do You Think Boidem Keep Files On Grime Artists?

[Stringer_Bell]

The CIA are proven to do it in america with all there artists who might be listened to by teenagers and children...

I wouldn't be surprised because the grime scene is the best way for young people to express there opinions to the a wide scale of people....

IMO grime is a threat to the government, police and other groups, lots of black males with talent and a way to be heard all over the place also the chance to make money and educate kids about right from wrong...

Just something to think about...

[Llelo]

Only the ones with convictions.

People need to stop with this conspiracy shit.

Yes the police are racist, anyone who is black in London knows this. But the police know that most mc's are not moving big food or gunning guys down. And they will have files on the ones that do because they have been in prison, not becasue they make music.

[casual]

Grime is just growing in terms of a threat to government imo..
i mean when you talk about american hip hop, its much more widespread and quite a lot of the rappers and stuff actually do roll with '9mmz' and them ones.
With grime, its a lot of talk and barely any action ( I know someone will take crazy titch's name to oppose that statement) and hopefully it will stay like that.

[Stringer_Bell]

Only the ones with convictions.

People need to stop with this conspiracy shit.

Yes the police are racist, anyone who is black in London knows this. But the police know that most mc's are not moving big food or gunning guys down. And they will have files on the ones that do because they have been in prison, not becasue they make music.

Go read the covert war against rock init then come back to me and say secret services dont moniter music...

The rolling stones, the beatles, nirvana and loads more will tell you others.

If you got the youth listening to you, your instantly deemed a threat.

People like ghetto, devlin have kids at there knees so to speak.

Your just to boxed in to understand..

Low tryna go off topic aswel im talking about grime mcs an grime music not moving food or crime..

[Llelo]

Go read the covert war against rock init then come back to me and say secret services dont moniter music...

The rolling stones, the beatles, nirvana and loads more will tell you others.

If you got the youth listening to you, your instantly deemed a threat.

People like ghetto, devlin have kids at there knees so to speak.

Your just to boxed in to understand..

Low tryna go off topic aswel im talking about grime mcs an grime music not moving food or crime..

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[Stringer_Bell]

http://www.imagebin.eu/pics/0cfcd3aec2a38ab1b2c155b61ba734e9.jpg

LOL @ using a pic that has been rinsed out more then your marge...

That pic was used on RWD when the old old heads were dere..

Phailed.

[Llelo]

How is that a phail?

Donut...

[Stringer_Bell]

Mods you mite aswel delete that fassys post and reply to him cuz its spamming out the topic

i only want serious answers not someone tryna earn sum stripes on the net

[Entity]

Not likely. Grime is not a threat to society, no artist is going to lead any sort of revolt against the government, or the modern world. The time they would waste doing this sort of operation, is just time they can spend addressing something thats actually going on. They will be aware of artists in grime, but only for criminal activity.

[Llelo]

Mods you mite aswel delete that fassys post and reply to him cuz its spamming out the topic

i only want serious answers not someone tryna earn sum stripes on the net

I gave you an answer to your ridiculous question and you completely disregarded it and missed the point of what i said.

I wasn't changing the subject talking about crime, i was saying that was teh only reason the police would have a file on a grime mc.

LOL @ thinking police are out to prevent MCs getting big - do you know how much police backed youth music schemes there are?

LOL @ thinking the police even know who most grime MCs are

LOL @ thinking the police would even know or care that a convicted crimincal happened to MC

The government doesn't want to stop people making music. And most grime MCs aren't known outside of their manor or outside of the grime scene's fanbase.

EDIT - and the guy above me said exactly the same thing as i said in my first post.

Therefore this topic is a fail.

[BananaMan]

Not likely. Grime is not a threat to society, no artist is going to lead any sort of revolt against the government, or the modern world. The time they would waste doing this sort of operation, is just time they can spend addressing something thats actually going on. They will be aware of artists in grime, but only for criminal activity.

Done

[I Can See You]

No

[Wiz]

not unless they have a criminal record

maybe trident

[frankD]

Not really.

Maybe Trident keep an ear to the ground.

[adidasgrandad]

like lello said...only the ones with convictions...its the only way they can get your data or if you have been arrested

[Sir Kippington]

Only the ones with convictions.

People need to stop with this conspiracy shit.

Yes the police are racist, anyone who is black in London knows this. But the police know that most mc's are not moving big food or gunning guys down. And they will have files on the ones that do because they have been in prison, not becasue they make music.

Yes they do.
I work closely with a few grime artist some without convictions and the police ring them up before bookings.

Trust me things are getting bad. benga wasnt allowed to play in herbal the other day just because the police informed the management that he had been on the same lineup as Grime Artists in the past. he had to get a white DJ to play his records for him.
So they do check.

[frankD]

Yes they do.
I work closely with a few grime artist some without convictions and the police ring them up before bookings.

Trust me things are getting bad. benga wasnt allowed to play in herbal the other day just because the police informed the management that he had been on the same lineup as Grime Artists in the past. he had to get a white DJ to play his records for him.
So they do check.

If that is true, then grime is going nowhere.

[bailey_187]

Lol

[TRU_G]

The time they would waste doing this sort of operation, is just time they can spend addressing something thats actually going on

The government and Police force find this hard to do alot of the time...

[Prometheus.]

Police in the bits probably keep a eye out for the local hype, like shows, studio, who's hanging with who (at least with a criminal background)..but on a larger scale - grime is NOTHING, trust me. I belive criminals are hard enough to follow, instead of watching MCs and what they say.

but it's not unheard of, I mean, CIA kept files on Bob Marley because they saw him as a potential leader in a revolution..so, who knows? (insert x-files theme)

[Stringer_Bell]

Hol tyt the people who now wag1 and lol at those who dont...

[Llelo]

The reason a lot of grime raves get locked is cos of the people who attend them, not the artists yeh.

Like ive been at a rave where there was a little scrap between two man, and it got locked off. Because the promoters think any other type of music its just a scrap, but they think certain types of people (eg road man and man who par with gunman) will be at grime raves. So they that fight is gonna have turned into somebody letting off shots in the rave or outside the venue by the end of the night.

That's why the police don't let grime raves happen moretime. Not cos theyre tryna hold people down or whatever. Although i agree to a certain extent that they dislike the music itself and tihnk it encourages violence, but not a revolution etc.

[Quality Control]

..i really doubt it lol..

['nuum general]

half of raves getting locked is probably promotors not liasing with the police before the event to ensure they are aware of it & happy with security arrangements

[Tony Black]

Yes they do.
I work closely with a few grime artist some without convictions and the police ring them up before bookings.

Trust me things are getting bad. benga wasnt allowed to play in herbal the other day just because the police informed the management that he had been on the same lineup as Grime Artists in the past. he had to get a white DJ to play his records for him.
So they do check.


Its called Operation ClubFocus, promoters are required to give details of music policy and performing artists

the police then do what they do as far as risk assessment (based on previous incidents/crime trends at raves) and either approve or deny lineups

to 'prevent' future incidents



half of raves getting locked is probably promotors not liasing with the police before the event to ensure they are aware of it & happy with security arrangements

[Carter]

Yeah the police have files on Ghetto & Devlin...........real John Lennon & 2pac type guys they are...

[The merkiest guy]

The CIA are proven to do it in america with all there artists who might be listened to by teenagers and children...

I wouldn't be surprised because the grime scene is the best way for young people to express there opinions to the a wide scale of people....

IMO grime is a threat to the government, police and other groups, lots of black males with talent and a way to be heard all over the place also the chance to make money and educate kids about right from wrong...

Just something to think about...

Bruv,

The police keeps tabs on all black people me you and everyone else!!! i don't want to go that deep YET but in this country anything that is seen as a threat is a NO NO!!!!

Remba: in order fo the status quo to work there needs to a have and a have not.




P.s- you really should stop using te USA as an example and look more closely at BRAZIL as that will give you a better picture, blud!!

[bailey_187]

Bruv,

The police keeps tabs on all black people me you and everyone else!!! i don;t want to go that deep YET but in this country anything that is seen as a threat is a NO NO!!!!

Remba: in order fo the status quo to work there needs to a have and a have not.




P.s- you really should stop using te USA as an example and look more closely at BRAZIL as that will gve you a better picture, blud!!

no, please do.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

lmao at this thread

[frankD]

If you ran the police, would you let all grime events go ahead, even if shootings were likely to happen?

[4737]

I wouldn't be surprised if Scotland Yard have intelligence on grime artists and crews merely for the point of researching youth culture/crime in the areas the met try to police. Also, the fact that the police shut down larger grime-centred events so quickly would suggest that they are aware of the scene and think it has a propensity to violent conduct. You'd be surprised what the police keep intelligence on.

I seriously doubt that MI5/SIS, etc even know what grime is, or care for that matter. Grime's no national security threat. It's not even threatening to blow anytime soon.

t.

[R-Style]

hip hop police r well documented in u.s

but i dnt think theres nefin of that scale here. probly a few feds in tridant keeping tabs on past offenders hu happen 2 mc

[Fewie]

Yes they do.
I work closely with a few grime artist some without convictions and the police ring them up before bookings.

Trust me things are getting bad. benga wasnt allowed to play in herbal the other day just because the police informed the management that he had been on the same lineup as Grime Artists in the past. he had to get a white DJ to play his records for him.
So they do check.

Bruv is dat seriously true, if dat is dat is sum next level of fuckrieness

[frankD]

Bruv is dat seriously true, if dat is dat is sum next level of fuckrieness

sounds like bullshit.

[DJYOUNG1]

Fuck Da Cops

[Oh So Sho Though]

Of course they do. Don't be fucking stupid. The amount of MC's with criminal convictions loooooooooool.

[Jointz]

dey banned giggs from dat concert so hu knows...