View Full Version : Mixing defies logic ...
Steez
15th February '09, 03:52 PM
2 things I need to understand ...
1. A lot of my tunes are looped based. How come, at certain bars, I get clips, when it's the exact same pattern as 90% of the other bars, with no clip. Is this just a plugin being weird or what?
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2. Sometimes, I see a clip, so I attempt to sort it out. The master out is reporting +0.1dB ... so I turn a few things down and then the very same bit reports +0.3dB ... what the fuck? Is there something I'm missing? Surely turning shit down should make the overall level drop?
Wiz
15th February '09, 04:15 PM
By "clip" do you mean a click/pop/etc sound?
1. Yes from time to time a plugin may mess up causing distorted sounds or clicking/popping/etc
2. Theoretically the outcome of turning one thing down would mean the overall sound should be lower, however (getting a bit technical here) if you consider the theory of superposition of waves you'd understand why the sounds may end up higher when removing parts.
I would be able to explain it to you very easily if I was in front of you explaining and drawing it out but it's awkward through text. Try looking up Superposition in Waves on a A Level Physics level of explanation.
Retrofreak
15th February '09, 04:25 PM
Try adjusting your hardware buffer size settings..also try to bounce keyboard parts, drums etc as the more you have running live the more your computer will crap out on you.
Also try sending Drums,bass,keyboards to their on Buss so you can control the levels without totally destroying your mix.
Also turn the net/wifi etc off when processing..may help.
Steez
15th February '09, 04:52 PM
I would be able to explain it to you very easily if I was in front of you explaining and drawing it out but it's awkward through text. Try looking up Superposition in Waves on a A Level Physics level of explanation.
Seen, safe - might look that up.
Nothings actually running from a plugin still, everything's bounced down as audio tracks and mixed like that.
Turning net off could be a good look still.
The Enigma
16th February '09, 01:59 AM
Does any1 know how to adjust the midi input velocity level?
When i play my keyboard the velocity is at 43, bare quiet.
Steez
16th February '09, 09:17 AM
Does any1 know how to adjust the midi input velocity level?
When i play my keyboard the velocity is at 43, bare quiet.
I'd be interested in this too ... if anyone knows how to set it to maximum constantly
Retrofreak
16th February '09, 09:55 AM
I'd be interested in this too ... if anyone knows how to set it to maximum constantly
Depending on what program you use it will be in your "midi prefs"
croydonbeats
12th March '09, 09:50 PM
If your loops are coming from VST's, it might be that the oscillators are detuned. If they are, the waveform from each oscillator will drift in and out of sync with each other. When they're out of sync, they might well cancel each other out - making the overall output quieter - and when they're in sync, the overall output will be louder. Then... if you're running out of headroom for the whole mix, you might get occasional clips.
Similar thing goes for if you're using effects like chorus, phaser, flanger, delay... they'll produce sound which, some bars, might make a certain point in the bar louder, and in other bars, quieter.
I turn all my channels down much more than I used to: loud stuff tends to be at about -18 or -24dB, quiet stuff down to -40 or -50dB. Then I'll submix to group tracks, maybe compress the groups with make-up gain, to make them louder - and think about raising the master out level to get back to 0dB on the final, master output. Just means there's plenty of headroom all the way through. Don't know if that's the official way of doing it, though!
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