who should get signed?

[J.P.T.]

me and my bredrin where wounderin who truely derserves to get a record deal with any major or indepent label. you should base your answer on
TALENT, DISGORAPHY(means mixtape & albums they've relesed) AND WORKRATE

DISCUSS

[Andre]

who cares really

i hope noone gets signed ever and the whole music industry collapses

no hype

[G-Rhyme]

Ghetto.

[Wiz]

Doctor has likeability but I dunno how he would do making a decent set of 11+ tunes.
Miss Bratt would do well if she started chucking in a bit of melody into her lyrics.

[SE15]

Dot Rotten.

Why?

Hes the best in the game,thats why.

[Myth]

*waits 4 every1 2 say rotten*

[Retrofreak]

Records business as we know it is over anyway.

[Danny Trejo]

watch the skank

[Steez]

Dot Rotten wouldn't work with a major label, although he'd be HUGE on an independent.

Only Bashy deserves a major deal really, no-one else in the UK works hard enough.

[Aza T]

You don't need a label to be successful in music.

[David]

Untitled...wait...narrr he's swag.

[J.P.T.]

Untitled...wait...narrr he's swag.

loooooool

[Wiz]

Untitled...wait...narrr he's swag.
That seemed slightly unnecessary

[Tight and Bright]

Dot Rotten wouldn't work with a major label, although he'd be HUGE on an independent.

Only Bashy deserves a major deal really, no-one else in the UK works hard enough.

Kmt bashy is swag.

[J.P.T.]

Ghetto.

gd answer but i swear hes alredy got a single deal which will lead to an album deal if the single does gd

[David]

=P

[Naruto Hatake]

That seemed slightly unnecessary

.

Bashy, Rotten and BTR.

No Hovis

[David]

JME getting signed would ruin him.
Same goes for most Grime acts.
Except for DG, because he stayed real throughout the whole thing

[David]

I was joking about Untitled btw.

[Steez]

Kmt bashy is swag.
Never that, Bashy's sick, genuine guy.

[Wiz]

Except for DG, because he stayed real throughout the whole thing

Did he release anything on the label?

[Mike]

I was joking about Untitled btw.

lol

[Aza T]

A lot of MCs just need good guidance.

[Steez]

Did he release anything on the label?
He wasn't signed to a label, just a development deal.

[Booga]

Bashy would be good ona label. he dont reli spot overrr grimey so nuthin would change much plus people would understand what he's sayin if u get me.
Ghetto should.

[Wiz]

He wasn't signed to a label, just a development deal.Oh seen, well it didn't really get him anywhere did it?

[Steez]

Oh seen, well it didn't really get him anywhere did it?
Dunno, he's fairly clued up. I imagine regardless of what happened musically, the advice and guidance/experience given probably did a lot for him.

[Jimmer]

Theres only a select few who would ever get signed, The rest are destined to stay underground forever.

[Retrofreak]

"Record" companies are over, cause "Records" are now email attachments.

[Steez]

"Record" companies are over, cause "Records" are now email attachments.
This is why 360 deals exist.

[Retrofreak]

This is why 360 deals exist.

I know all about 360 deals their failing..trust

[Alfie]

Bashy however, he may go on his "black boys" thing and I can't see mainstream Britain liking that

[Jimmy Darmody]

i don't see why artists have to get signed to be seen as a success.

[J.P.T.]

bashy however, he may go on his "black boys" thing and i can't see mainstream britain liking that

loooooooooooool at your pic
ofencive but funny

[Tony Starks]

This is why 360 deals exist.
Sumone explain?

[Dreamer]

I agree with bashy his jus a poistive person overall, makes good tunes, works hard etc...

erm i also think tinchy should he may not be lyrically better than most mc's but he can make hits erm who else....oh yeh ghetto aswell

[Retrofreak]

Sumone explain?

Record companies now take a share of the artists publishing, performance and merchandising monies.

It works for some, but most artist are avoiding this situation , by dealing with external publishers or avoiding majors all together.

Major companies are taking a bigger slice of a now even smaller pie, so I'm not sure how long this model will work in this climate.

[Steez]

Record companies now take a share of the artist publishing, performance and merchandising monies.

It works for some, but most artist are avoiding this situation , by dealing with external publishers or avoiding majors all together.

Major companies are taking a bigger slice of a now even smaller pie, so I'm not sure how long this model will work in this climate.
For labels/majors it's a lot, it's not quite so good for artists

but then again, the worlds changing, people going into music expecting major money are lost

[Anonymous]

Dot Rotten.

Why?

Hes the best in the game,thats why.


Dot Rotten wouldn't work with a major label, although he'd be HUGE on an independent.

I tend to agree with both of the above.

[The Don]

Bashy would work. He makes tunes I'd associate with watered down label music independantly lol.

Major labels are not beneficial to grime imo but if the question is who would you like to see (and could possibly) become a success on one as an individual then Trim.

[Odotkae]

fuck bashy
a whole album with him recognising he is actually black

[Kaychi]

Chipmunk.

Doctor - Mainstream appeal and makes good music

Ironik - Cut His Neck With The Contract He Signed

[The Egghead]

Trim, Doctor, Ruff Sqwad.

[Major]

as long as i hear grime i dont care who gets signed

[Phader]

Ghetto.....

if he dnt make it, dats fuckries

[Carter]

Dot Rotten wouldn't work with a major label, although he'd be HUGE on an independent.

Only Bashy deserves a major deal really, no-one else in the UK works hard enough.

You're so dumb lol

no hype, no wonder this A&R ting aint working for you

[Mike]

For labels/majors it's a lot, it's not quite so good for artists

but then again, the worlds changing, people going into music expecting major money are lost

It's not easy that's why it's always best to have a back up plan

[Phader]

wretch 32 aswell.....

fuck skepta tho

[Steez]

You're so dumb lol

no hype, no wonder this A&R ting aint working for you
Dumb you know, the A&R thing made me realise the UK was dry.

You got beef with Bashy/Dot? Which bit was dumb?

[The Elijah]

a better question is who has the ability to sell to a wider audience outside of the grime scene, still making grime music.

[Mike]

a better question is who has the ability to sell to a wider audience outside of the grime scene, still making grime music.

Rinse

[Carter]

Dumb you know, the A&R thing made me realise the UK was dry.

You got beef with Bashy/Dot? Which bit was dumb?

Dot Rotten being HUGE on a indie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bashy will a record deal would Ironik part 2, but without the one hit wonder track

[Steez]

Dot Rotten being HUGE on a indie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bashy will a record deal would Ironik part 2, but without the one hit wonder track
How would Dot not be huge? He's already top of the grime game imo, put out what, like 8 CDs last year and produced BARE for other people?

Bashy could do a lot, he's got decent concepts, and used to get decent production, not so much for Bashy.com but a lot of that seemed to be freestyle based, but Chupa Chups had some sick original production.

Pryin' could have done a lot when it dropped originally imo, decent video material for them pop stations.

[fuk off]

You don't need a label to be successful in music.
qft

Dot Rotten wouldn't work with a major label, although he'd be HUGE on an independent.
.

Yeah I don't think the majors are ready to deal with Dot lol but on an Inderpendant he would do alot he is one of the biggest in the scene on mic and on the buttons and he can actually structure good album tunes

[Steez]

Yeah I don't think the majors are ready to deal with Dot lol but on an Inderpendant he would do alot he is one of the biggest in the scene on mic and on the buttons and he can actually structure good album tunes
From what Griminal said in that video ages ago, it looks like Dot actually produces tunes aswell like Terror Danjah does, not just sending beats off.

[Parter]

How would Dot not be huge?

he is shit mate.

cant perform either.

7 cds i dont know one tune off em.

[fuk off]

From what Griminal said in that video ages ago, it looks like Dot actually produces tunes aswell like Terror Danjah does, not just sending beats off.

Yeah fair play to that, Dot is a real producer

[Naruto Hatake]

he is shit mate.

cant perform either.

7 cds i dont know one tune off em.

:dead::dead::dead::dead:

[Kaos]

Kaos....he's NANG!

[Andre]

Rinse

you are joking, yeah?

[Quality Control]

no one, they're all shit, unmarketable and unprofessional

[R-Style]

dot. only 1 who could make good music on a label.

ghetts will sell out trust.

[90zKiD]

no1 they will go to comercial

[J Beatz]

Bashy
Dot Rotten
Double S
The Movement

[Eric Cantona]

no one, they're all shit, unmarketable and unprofessional

'Big labels don't wanna chance us, they look right us past us, think were all like Wiley and act like bastards'

[Grimes]

i don't know how ghetto could possibly sell out, he personifies grime

[Wiz]

I dunno why people are saying Dot Rotten.

[nemesisartist]

Dot Rotten

Simply because he's proved again and again that he can do commercial tunes (One Of A Kind, Around The World etc, etc...)

[Shalz08]

tbh i dont want no1 to get signed cos i reckon theyll just release shit music

[nemesisartist]

Dot is the most talented artist in the grime scene by far...

He can produce, mc, sing...and listenin 2 his shows...he can mix...

[Andre]

'Big labels don't wanna chance us, they look right past us, think were all like Wiley and act like bastards'

lol I thought of those exact same bars when I read QC's post

[The Don]

i don't know how ghetto could possibly sell out, he personifies grime

Don't you mean "Ghetts" lol. Hopefully the mainstream motivated changes stop at the name.

[Equilibrium]

Bashy
Dot Rotten
Double S
The Movement

onli one of those guys is grime

[icecream]

Don't you mean "Ghetts" lol. Hopefully the mainstream motivated changes stop at the name.

why is the name change mainstream motivated? fans have been calling him ghetts for time.

[nemesisartist]

why is the name change mainstream motivated? fans have been calling him ghetts for time.

people will associate him w/ knife crime etc....

[Rayful Edmond]

I agree with bashy his jus a poistive person overall, makes good tunes, works hard etc...

erm i also think tinchy should he may not be lyrically better than most mc's but he can make hits erm who else....oh yeh ghetto aswell
I Swear Tinchy Is Signed 2 Island Records Or Suttin?

[The Don]

why is the name change mainstream motivated? fans have been calling him ghetts for time.

Ghetts as an abbreviation yh. Its probably minor but to me changing his official name to Ghetts and getting away from "Ghetto" was to detatch himself from the connotations of that word; mainstream in mind.

Hes still easily top 3 imo I just aint sure he personifies grime.

[Dreamer]

I Swear Tinchy Is Signed 2 Island Records Or Suttin?


Oh yeh true my bad still

[Grimes]

Ghetts as an abbreviation yh. Its probably minor but to me changing his official name to Ghetts and getting away from "Ghetto" was to detatch himself from the connotations of that word; mainstream in mind.

Hes still easily top 3 imo I just aint sure he personifies grime.

as a person he is grime

his image, his history, his delivery. hype and quick gritty flow

ghetto by nature

[The Don]

as a person he is grime

his image, his history, his delivery. hype and quick gritty flow

ghetto by nature

Would've agreed before I saw the press release about him changing his name to Ghetts for his new image.

Time will tell tho i see where you're comin from.

[Grimes]

i don't see how that is relevant

[SE15]

he is shit mate.

cant perform either.

7 cds i dont know one tune off em.

Damn!!

What mc's do u like?

[Captain]

Giggs

[Naruto Hatake]

i don't know how ghetto could possibly sell out, he personifies grime

This 100%.

Ghetts IS grime. No rolex sweep. No wearing my rolex. Just straight "Buss 1" >>>>>

[The Egghead]

This 100%.

Ghetts IS grime. No rolex sweep. No wearing my rolex. Just straight "Buss 1" >>>>>

Electro remix of sing for me.

[Naruto Hatake]

Electro remix of sing for me.

Regardless, there's still a big difference between the 3 songs and 3 artists in-terms of personifying grime.

[Andre]

Wearing my rolex was an alright tune anyways tbh.

[Equilibrium]

am i the only who dont think ghetts is that grime

[Andre]

am i the only who dont think ghetts is that grime

.

I don't see how someone who's made hip hop mixtapes and formed a hip hop crew, is the epitome of grime.

When he's on grime he is sick though.

[Retrofreak]

What is Grime these days?

Cause R.I.P. Young Dot sounds as Hip Hop as FOS imo.

[Andre]

What is Grime these days?

Cause R.I.P. Young Dot sounds as Hip Hop as FOS imo.

Freedom of speech was grimier than ghetto gospel by a long way, and is a solid mixtape.

R.I.P. Young Dot is shit, it sounds like the vocals are coming from a different room to the beat when you play it imo. cant hear the beats properly

[Retrofreak]

Freedom of speech was grimier than ghetto gospel by a long way, and is a solid mixtape.

R.I.P. Young Dot is shit, it sounds like the vocals are coming from a different room when you play it imo.

As an overall listen I rate GG over FOS as it had better songs, but too many tracks.

FOS was more Grimey, but it lacked big tracks like Top 3 Selected and sounded samey imo.

[Grimes]

.

I don't see how someone who's made hip hop mixtapes and formed a hip hop crew, is the epitome of grime.

When he's on grime he is sick though.

LOL.

what a dumb arguement

everyone has made hiphop or pop at somepoint

doogz has done his shit ragga mixtapes

wiley's done 2 pop albums

JME done a garage mixtape

them arguments don't stand up no more

GG wasn't a hiphop thing it was just a album fullstop.

[Grimes]

Freedom of speech was grimier than ghetto gospel by a long way, and is a solid mixtape.

R.I.P. Young Dot is shit, it sounds like the vocals are coming from a different room to the beat when you play it imo. cant hear the beats properly

what another dumb thing to say

discrediting a mixtape on the basis on quality not even the content (which i certainly see no problems with, man was jamming to that on my ipod still 2day"

this guy is probably a fan that bumsucks sets ain't the best sets ain't studio quality.

[Grimes]

hiphop has always been a strong influence in grime i dn't know why people act like its grime's worse enemy.

i can't be bothered with nitty genre delineations tbh.

[Retrofreak]

hiphop has always been a strong influence in grime i dn't know why people act like its grime's worse enemy.

i can't be bothered with nitty genre delineations tbh.

Agreed.

Grime doesn't always = good.

It should be about good music first and foremost.

[Mister Lacey]

None of these mans really wanna get signed and tbh it might not be in their best interests, maybe a strong independent but Majors would fuck over these mans differently.

['nuum general]

Agreed.

Grime doesn't always = good.

It should be about good music first and foremost.

.

Variation is needed to sustain a cd anyway. Everyone's favourite grime cd has hip hop tunes on it

[Andre]

LOL.

what a dumb arguement

everyone has made hiphop or pop at somepoint

doogz has done his shit ragga mixtapes

wiley's done 2 pop albums

JME done a garage mixtape

them arguments don't stand up no more

GG wasn't a hiphop thing it was just a album fullstop.


what another dumb thing to say

discrediting a mixtape on the basis on quality not even the content (which i certainly see no problems with, man was jamming to that on my ipod still 2day"

this guy is probably a fan that bumsucks sets ain't the best sets ain't studio quality.



hiphop has always been a strong influence in grime i dn't know why people act like its grime's worse enemy.

i can't be bothered with nitty genre delineations tbh.


Everything you've said just makes your argument that Ghetto is the epitome of grime look even more far fetched and as you say a "dumb arguement" (nice irony btw)

[Grimes]

how don't come with statements and no elaboration

i dn't see how you inferred that

stop acting like you have to be a virgin or pure of blood to personification of grime

[Andre]

how don't come with statements and no elaboration

i dn't see how you inferred that

stop acting like you have to be a virgin or pure of blood to personification of grime

you said that in making non grime tracks ghetts is exactly the same as other mcs, so how does that raise him above them as the epitome of grime?

On your second point, why put out a mixtape where the engineering is shit. that makes the end product shit imo.

I prefer dancehall influenced grime, but even if you take hip hop influenced grime, that is entirely different to simply making a ukhh track, which is what gg was full of.

I think Ghetto is a sick mc when he's on grime, but he isn't the epitome of grime.

[Naruto Hatake]

I think Ghetto is a sick mc when he's on grime, but he isn't the epitome of grime.

Who is go on....

[Andre]

Who is go on....

Tempz

[Naruto Hatake]

Tempz

Can't really argue with you there but I prefer Ghetto to Tempz. I dont feel Tempz has done enough YET but you got me with that answer.

[Eric Cantona]

Who is go on....

errr....Wiley?

[fedfaced]

sign maniac, if thts even possible

[Mister Lacey]

Let's not talk about Wiley and signed anymore.
Mans been signed more times than the scene combined.

[Wiz]

sign maniac, if thts even possible
why?

[Andre]

Can't really argue with you there but I prefer Ghetto to Tempz. I dont feel Tempz has done enough YET but you got me with that answer.

Real things, shittard, are you fucking crazy, battle riddim, bax dem, swallow your pride, tempz, next hype, new day...

then all the sets hes been on

and his albums out soon

[Grimes]

you said that in making non grime tracks ghetts is exactly the same as other mcs, so how does that raise him above them as the epitome of grime?

On your second point, why put out a mixtape where the engineering is shit. that makes the end product shit imo.

I prefer dancehall influenced grime, but even if you take hip hop influenced grime, that is entirely different to simply making a ukhh track, which is what gg was full of.

I think Ghetto is a sick mc when he's on grime, but he isn't the epitome of grime.



1. what raises him above (no brainer just look at my previous posts) apart from that i'm gonna say grime music isn't homogeneous there are quality differences.

2. how the hell does that have any connection to my posts about epitome grime. also i think your being nit picky. the quality isn't bad. R.I.P young dot is rated as one of the best mixtapes by many and the quality didn't seem to ruin their listening pleasure

3.i'm ignore this point completely

LOL.

[Naruto Hatake]

Real things, shittard, are you fucking crazy, battle riddim, bax dem, swallow your pride, tempz, next hype, new day...

then all the sets hes been on

and his albums out soon

Same could be said for Ghetts.

[fedfaced]

why?

because he is sick

[Andre]

1. what raises him above (no brainer just look at my previous posts) apart from that i'm gonna say grime music isn't homogeneous there are quality differences.

2. how the hell does that have any connection to my posts about epitome grime. also i think your being nit picky. the quality isn't bad. R.I.P young dot is rated as one of the best mixtapes by many and the quality didn't seem to ruin their listening pleasure

3.i'm ignore this point completely

LOL.

1. tempz is grimier

2. this is the beginning set a standard in terms of its quality which r.i.p didnt match up to

3. fair enough then

[Grimes]

ghetto's catalogue kills tempz.

so i think thats a dumb topic to arguement

man has 4 mixtapes

and has done countless classic sets

eclipsing Tempz record already please.

[Retrofreak]

Dunno, if I can hear a whole CD of Tempz yet? in rave yes, but it's yet to be proven.

[Andre]

Same could be said for Ghetts.

slew dem sets >>>>>>>>> sets with ghetts on

next hype and new day >>>>>>>>>>>> anything I've heard from ghetts

[Grimes]

aite might aswell get to Gets to the roots on this argument

what are the characteristics associable to grime

[Andre]

slew dem are the epitome of grime

/thread

[Grimes]

slew dem sets >>>>>>>>> sets with ghetts on

next hype and new day >>>>>>>>>>>> anything I've heard from ghetts

skeen.

your opinion still

FUCK RADIO > sets with tempz

top 3 selected, commandments> next hype (next hype is exactly its name just hype 4 a minute)

[Naruto Hatake]

aite might aswell get to Gets to the roots on this argument

what are the characteristics associable to grime

Aggresive, Hype, anything which you would associate with 04 youths on road :laugh:

[fedfaced]

unless ur kano i think labels r gona expect ne grime artists they sign to be full on musicians a la dizzee, wiley, dot rotten etc. , not jst a guy who can spray, even if hes really good, cos at the end of the day they r gona release some shit hip hop album somewhere down the line and fall off big time , u know how mc's are

[Grimes]

slew dem are the epitome of grime

/thread

yeah i would agree

but then you initial argument of doing hiphop disallowing this title is void , like say rage and esco don't do hiphop

[Andre]

yeah i would agree

but then you initial argument of doing hiphop disallowing this title is void , like say rage and esco don't do hiphop

ok a slew dem pirate radio set

that is the epitome of grime

if you played someone that thing slackk did a week or so ago then thats the epitome of grime

imo

[Retrofreak]

If Grime characteristics are solely angry hype, then all you'll get is carbon copied Crazy Titch wannabee's running around hyping without any clubs to play their tracks in.

I think it's one sound of Grime, when there should be many, just defined by the individuals personality.

Wiley's good at being Wiley, he sucks when he try's to be someone else.

[Grimes]

If Grime characteristics are solely angry hype, then all you'll get is carbon copied Crazy Titch wanna bee's running around hyping without any clubs to play their tracks in.

I think it's one sound of Grime, when it should be defined ,by the individuals own personality.

Wiley's good at being Wiley, he sucks when he try's to be someone else.

gospel here.

and what a lot people don't seem to understand or do but choose the definitions of grime when he suits them

[Steez]

If Grime characteristics are solely angry hype, then all you'll get is carbon copied Crazy Titch wannabee's running around hyping without any clubs to play their tracks in.
It's a decent point but a solid Titch CD imo is better than a See Clear Now with boog pop attempts and watered down shit

Ghetto's really the only MC I can think off the top of my head that seems to plan where his music is going as he does it, like he plans the radio tracks, the streets tracks, and them promotes/drops them effectively. Everyone else just tries to make one track to cover all bases.

[THOR!]

It's a decent point but a solid Titch CD imo is better than a See Clear Now with boog pop attempts and watered down shit

Ghetto's really the only MC I can think off the top of my head that seems to plan where his music is going as he does it, like he plans the radio tracks, the streets tracks, and them promotes/drops them effectively. Everyone else just tries to make one track to cover all bases.

Missed the point.

[The Enigma]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2230/62/32/1456551694/n1456551694_205279_3086.jpg

[Retrofreak]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2230/62/32/1456551694/n1456551694_205279_3086.jpg

Is the beard religious?

[Naruto Hatake]

Is the beard religious?

Na. It's a promise he made about not cutting it till he releases his album or its done or something.

[Steez]

Missed the point.
What was the point then?

[SE15]

tempz is grime

[stats]

if you look at most people who get signed they end up making shit music so hopefully no1

[pixx]

i reckon not in any order
tinny temper
skepta
bashy

[Andre]

bashy already makes shit music, so I hope he gets signed to a major.

I'd like to see someone good like Ghetts, trim, or frisco get signed to Dirtee Stank.

[The Enigma]

Na. It's a promise he made about not cutting it till he releases his album or its done or something.

Lets hope its released soon then, before he gets mistaken for a suicide bomber n shot 50 times.

[pixx]

bashy
tinny temper
skepta

[nature]

emmm noone better staying in the underground

[E72]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2230/62/32/1456551694/n1456551694_205279_3086.jpg

[Eve]Wos Dat Girl?[Eve]

[Breakz]

Imo, i Fink Crazy T, would have or at least should have got signed, remember in his time, him nd dizzee was on the same lvl, if not higher. nd he was alredy makin moves with sugababes nd ting

[DA TRUTH]

you don't need a label to be successful in music.

artists like black the ripper i beleive will prove this.
Maybe ghetto deserves a break.

And maybe lady shivs could get signed from all the hype if she pissed more mc's off. Lool

[Rayful Edmond]

The First Grime Artist 2 Not Do Some Dumb Commercial Stunnt Deserves It.