Durty Goodz

[hyperfrank]

I like most of us really enjoyed his Axiom EP, however has anyone else heard the rumour that his album is totally hiphop? and his next mixtape is all yardie flow...

disapointing, especially after he was going on when he was promoting his mixtape yeah I'm a GRIME artist etc etc etc.

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IGNORE my topic starter, it seems theres a lot of bad mouthing going on and I'm just hearing the rubbish side of it, just vicious gossip. I'm really looking forward to this release especially the Taz track!!

[Pred]

I'll have to listen to judge. But for me, he's like Kano, and can make good music regardless of the genre.

"Everything I do is grimey you lot just make Grime" - Goodz, Top 3 Selected (Remix)

[Hij]

I think if we get a mixtape that incorporates a bit of everything I'd be willing to accept an 'Artist' cd.

I think even I can understand someone doing a cd that does include other genres, its just when they completely drop the genre that gave them the status.

Fingers crossed...

[Pred]

I think if we get a mixtape that incorporates a bit of everything I'd be willing to accept an 'Artist' cd.

I think even I can understand someone doing a cd that does include other genres, its just when they completely drop the genre that gave them the status.

Fingers crossed...

About half an hour ago I listened to 2000 and Life, more specificially the track that was just Kano live. How can he deny being a Grime MC at all?

[Hij]

Yeah the Kano Radio Rip from that is sick.

It even gets wheels when I'm on the push bike to work, thats a straight stand up...into pocket, whip the phone out and restart it lol

[Elijah]

not grime, not 4 elijah

[Demos]

his album is going to be grime

[Nafe17]

Gotta listen first before it can be judged really!

[Hij]

Gotta listen first before it can be judged really!
True say I guess.

A grime release would be over heavy though.

[Demos]

"What I can say is that all sides of my musical ability are being repped on this project and you will get a full Grime album from me.

Bless up

DG"

[Pred]

"all sides of my musical ability are being repped on this project and you will get a full Grime album from me."

Nice to hear, hope he's not going on a technicality and planning do a Grime album...eventually.

Just popped into my head. :)

[Hij]

Did you just message him?

Lol Pred, that would be worthy of a Prime Minister like statement with a get out clause lol

[Demos]

Did you just message him?

Lol Pred, that would be worthy of a Prime Minister like statement with a get out clause lol
yh i messaged him time ago about his future releases

[The Godfather]

yh i messaged him time ago about his future releases

S'gd that he got back 2 you. . .hope goods starts doin some live shows around the place to

[Hij]

Goodz is one of the better ones for getting back to you IMO.

Nice to have you back Its Yorkz, we just need Carter on board now lol

[Nafe17]

everyone on the forum big goodz fans then i take it

[The Godfather]

Goodz is one of the better ones for getting back to you IMO.

Nice to have you back Its Yorkz, we just need Carter on board now lol

Yup, hope we can get this like the old rwd...get some of the heads a vip2 back on...i want to get jack_you back 2...he was too much jokes

[Pred]

everyone on the forum big goodz fans then i take it

They should be!

[Hij]

Getting Jack You on here would be like Havant and Waterloo signing Samuel Eto'o

[Hij]

everyone on the forum big goodz fans then i take it
One of the best track makers in the game.

[Nafe17]

They should be!

yeah they should be, but there is a lot of other big track makers on the scene! lots of youngers coming up

[The Godfather]

Getting Jack You on here would be like Havant and Waterloo signing Samuel Eto'o

haha did u see them though, liverpool next round...lucky guys!

[Demos]

Goodz is one of the better ones for getting back to you IMO.

yh goodz is a very safe guy

[Hij]

haha did u see them though, liverpool next round...lucky guys!

Ill be there. I bet if we win 3-0 Rafa will get sacked for not having enough goals or some bullshit, anyway, thats for the random forum lol.

Is the album Durrty Whirl2 or is that the name?

[Mister Lacey]

Goodz is proper safe man trust and we all know his albums going to be sick, it's been a long time in the making.

[4737]

He told me it's gonna be a landmark grime album, and I am happy to have my beats on there. He raised the bar with Axiom, so wait and see what he does with this...

[Demos]

He told me it's gonna be a landmark grime album, and I am happy to have my beats on there. He raised the bar with Axiom, so wait and see what he does with this...who r u on rwd?

[4737]

Who do ya think? :D

t.

[Mister Lacey]

Who do ya think? :D

t.


Ah sick I forgot you had beats on there!

[Demos]

Who do ya think? :D

t.

whats good taz?

[Mister Lacey]

LOL Man when is he actually putting it out.
He told me early 08 a while ago anyone know if its been put back or anything?

[Demos]

wait a min ur not taz, i've just checked ur other post, theres no "t."

[Mister Lacey]

wait a min ur not taz, i've just checked ur other post, theres no "t."


LOL are you sure?
I swear it is him lol.

[4737]

was gonna come in here all incognito and keep a distance, but nah, it's bait.

t.

[Demos]

was gonna come in here all incognito and keep a distance, but nah, it's bait.

t.

hmm...

[Mister Lacey]

LOL Demos aint having it.

[4737]

IP check me then, fs. lol

t.

[Demos]

LOOL for some reason u dont remind me of taz

[Mister Lacey]

LOL LOL LOL
Demos is going on the Columbo flex!

[4737]

I've nothing to prove. Just buy my records when they make it out. Feb and March will be a lot!

t.

[Demos]

I've nothing to prove. Just buy my records when they make it out. Feb and March will be a lot!

t.

LOOL bait

[4737]

Strike First's delayed because of a remix that Hudson Mohawke (warp records) is late, so Destruction/Tread On Em are gonna hit shelves in march on Ramp, plus 'Bumba' comes out on Dubkraft in feb :D

t.

[Demos]

already got bumba, very big

[4737]

Get the vinyl. :p

t.

[Demos]

Get the vinyl. :p

t.

i would lol but dont have a record player/decks

[4737]

Buy it for your nan.

t.

[Demos]

Buy it for your nan.

t.
haahahaha

[Pred]

Someone's pushing the hard sale lol.

You buy me a stereo with a record player on it and I'll buy the vinyls.

[4737]

Just buy them for the pretty artwork. The tunes suck.

t.

[Brukfoot]

I haven't even heard Durrty Goodz on rap properly, but most people have told me Durrty Whirl was rap and was crap.

[Demos]

I haven't even heard Durrty Goodz on rap properly, but most people have told me Durrty Whirl was rap and was crap.
nah hes good at hip hop too, i thought that tune he did with DJ mentat was sik

[Pred]

LMFAO Taz! They got artwork then? Thought they might be white labels.

[Mr. Carter]

I like most of us really enjoyed his Axiom EP, however has anyone else heard the rumour that his album is totally hiphop? and his next mixtape is all yardie flow...

disapointing, especially after he was going on when he was promoting his mixtape yeah I'm a GRIME artist etc etc etc.

Nah I think that was the Polydor album that never got released..........I hope so anyway

[Pred]

There was a bootleg mixtape called "It's Real Vol. 1", but I haven't got that.

[Quality Control]

i knew he'd drop a hip-hop album since i copped Durrty Whirl so it doesnt come as some massive surprise like London Town or Maths + English

[4737]

Wait and see (hear).

t.

[Quality Control]

Wait and see (hear).

t.

u got inside info?

[4737]

Well, I can guarantee that the tracks I've produced for him are grime and dubstep exclusively. No hiphop. Plus, he's assured me personally that he has set out to make this a legendary grime release, so I'm quietly confident that's what it'll be.

t.

[Demos]

its gonna be grime lol

[Quality Control]

Well, I can guarantee that the tracks I've produced for him are grime and dubstep exclusively. No hiphop. Plus, he's assured me personally that he has set out to make this a legendary grime release, so I'm quietly confident that's what it'll be.

t.

yeah? that's sick then..

i had really low expectations for this cos i was convinced it was gonna be bait hip-hop but now i'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt

[Mister Lacey]

yeah? that's sick then..

i had really low expectations for this cos i was convinced it was gonna be bait hip-hop but now i'll have to give him the benefit of the doubt

I don't get why everyone thought this, why would Goodz put out axiom yeah get everyone hyped on the Grime EP and then drop a Hip Hop album?

[Quality Control]

I don't get why everyone thought this, why would Goodz put out axiom yeah get everyone hyped on the Grime EP and then drop a Hip Hop album?

Durrty Whirl vol. 1 plus there had been a lot of rumours going around that it was gonna be all hip-hop

[4737]

Assumption's the mother of all fuckups.

t.

[Hij]

Assumption's the mother of all fuckups.

t.

Is that a hint ;)

[Pred]

Well, I can guarantee that the tracks I've produced for him are grime and dubstep exclusively. No hiphop. Plus, he's assured me personally that he has set out to make this a legendary grime release, so I'm quietly confident that's what it'll be.

t.

Oi...that sort of talk gets me excited (BIG NO HOMO HERE)!

[Mr. Carter]

It would never be Bait Hip Hop with Durrty Goodz but it would the type of Hip Hop that any grime tune would kill off production wise.......think Shystie's album

[frankD]

The album that never was, was all hip hop from what I heard.

I heard a few tracks that leaks (from the first album)and if anyone can do Hip Hop its goodz, but at the end of the day we do want grime, or even dubstep and garage.

What we really don't want is Hip Hop.

[Quite a character]

ive never rated him as much as everybody else, he always jus got on my nerves tbh

[frankD]

What I think people like about him and people like Devlin is that they can project their lyrics in away that most people cannot.

Where a lot of people in the scene and on channel U mc and rap in a style as to which most people could if they practiced for an hour or so.

At the end of the day Hip Hop is NOT grime, and this makes Goodz NOT part our scene/sound. Which is ashame and the story of the last 5 years from a whole host of guys.

Newhams may be the only Grime album out this year, tho one cult album is worth a million average albums.

[Mr. Carter]

I think we're gonna hear something amazing from Goodz, you don't make a EP like Axiom and release a shit album..........you just don't!

[4737]

Hit the nail on the head.

t.

[Quality Control]

Taz... will the album have a similar overall sound/feel to it as Axiom?

[4737]

He raised the bar with axiom, so there's nothing left to do but raise it even higher. Like axiom, expect fucked concepts and sharp lyricism with sick flows and gutter beats.

t.

[Hij]

He raised the bar with axiom, so there's nothing left to do but raise it even higher. Like axiom, expect fucked concepts and sharp lyricism with sick flows and gutter beats.

t.

Hoping for that still then.

[shakabeatz]

its gonna be heavy, doogz never fails

[Elijah]

He raised the bar with axiom, so there's nothing left to do but raise it even higher. Like axiom, expect fucked concepts and sharp lyricism with sick flows and gutter beats.

t.

get me

[hyperfrank]

To be honest I like Goodz as an artist, If he comes out with grime then it's a bonus but I'll end up buying his cd - whatever the weather.

[Hij]

To be honest I like Goodz as an artist, If he comes out with grime then it's a bonus but I'll end up buying his cd - whatever the weather.

Was the pun of using another mixtape title in your post intended? :D

[S.Man]

for me Goodz is the most talented in the scene. He suits any beat with any flow and he got lyrics.

I thought the album was gunna be a mix of all kinda shit like grime/dubstep with hip-hop/bashment influence.

Whatever it is im sure it will be of the highest quality. Im looking forward to hearing that track he said he recorded with Titch!

[Rodimus Grime]

for me Goodz is the most talented in the scene. He suits any beat with any flow and he got lyrics.

I thought the album was gunna be a mix of all kinda shit like grime/dubstep with hip-hop/bashment influence.

Whatever it is im sure it will be of the highest quality. Im looking forward to hearing that track he said he recorded with Titch!

same

[Dubs]

i hope its 100% dubstep

[Hij]

i hope its 100% grime
With a Dubstep username? :eek:

[hyperfrank]

IGNORE my topic starter, it seems theres a lot of bad mouthing going on and I'm just hearing the rubbish side of it, just vicious gossip. I'm really looking forward to this release especially the Taz track!!

[Dubs]

yeah lol wud prefer him spittin on dubstep but i doubt dat wud happen grimes the next best thing

[Technician]

Well, I can guarantee that the tracks I've produced for him are grime and dubstep exclusively. No hiphop. Plus, he's assured me personally that he has set out to make this a legendary grime release, so I'm quietly confident that's what it'll be.

t.

from what ive heard its big

[Anonymous]

Any Scheduled Realease, Like 2Q Or Something?

[adidasgrandad]

sounds sick. whens it out?

[Odotkae]

Yh Dats Right. In My Opinion First 9 Tracks (Exc Drivers Anthem) On Ghetto Gospel>>>>>Axiom EP.

[casual]

ive never rated him as much as everybody else, he always jus got on my nerves tbh


Be real fam..
You are no doubt entitled to having your opinion..
but that's taking it a bit too far.

[4737]

Yh Dats Right. In My Opinion First 9 Tracks (Exc Drivers Anthem) On Ghetto Gospel>>>>>Axiom EP.

Lost isn't the word.

t.

[Hij]

Yh Dats Right. In My Opinion First 9 Tracks (Exc Drivers Anthem) On Ghetto Gospel>>>>>Axiom EP.
:eek:

[ALM]

In any form of music, I genuinely believe that.

If he doesn't get recognition from the mainstream something is wrong.

Born Blessed will be better than Boy in the Corner.

[Breathe Beats]

http://meow.catsplz.com/cats/pictures/284/Controversial-Cat.jpg

[ALM]

Goodz comes like the english bob marley.

[Demos]

Goodz>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other mc

[Flawz]

Agreed with Demos

[Pred]

Goodz summed up the whole of 2007 lyrically. Who else does that?

[ALM]

Name me someone in British music better?

[Retrofreak]

Goodz comes like the english bob marley.

^^^^Real Talk

There's other MC's who are lyrical, but none of the others have blended flow with lyrics as well as Goodz.

His light-years ahead of the so-called top boy's.

[Stringer_Bell]

Lyricist wise its probably close between Wretch32 & Goodz and maybe one other mc..

[Breathe Beats]

Name me someone in British music better?

Dizzee

[Retrofreak]

Name me someone in British music better?

G...?? Naa

W...?? Na

K....?? Na

Fuck it he's the best MC to come out of the UK since Slick Rick...
Yeah I said it What!!

[fullygrown]

^^^^Real Talk

There's other MC's who are lyrical, but none of the others have blended flow with lyrics as well as Goodz.

His light-years ahead of the so-called top boy's.

http://www.ccri.edu/currents/05-nov/images/Real-Talk.jpg

*lol dont watch the bit at the bottom*

[ALM]

Dizzee

question

axiom or M & E ?

[Mr. Carter]

Name me someone in British music better?

Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys?????

Dizzee Rascal??? So far anyway.....I'll decide when Born Blessed drops because its not fair

[Pred]

I've cut out the Breakdown of 07 (over the Xtra) beat and uploaded it for you lot.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xuw4f0
2.6MB, 128CBR.

[ALM]

Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys?????

Dizzee Rascal??? So far anyway.....I'll decide when Born Blessed drops because its not fair

Alex turner is big

as is doherty if he gets his act together.

I think Goodz is bigger at the moment still

[Jakey]

I would rather listen to Axiom than Maths and English, but that don't mean Durrtys better than Dizz. i aint gonna judge till after Born Blessed.

BIDC vs. Born Blessed threads will hopefully be good and heated discussions as long as DG don't let us down

EDIT: Alex Turner>>>>>>>>> still love the Arctic Monkeys first album

[Mr. Carter]

Alex turner is big

as is doherty if he gets his act together.

I think Goodz is bigger at the moment still

Black kids can relate to Durrty Goodz.....but anybody black or white can relate to Alex Turner getting boyed by bouncers, chatting up some girl at a club....etc..thats why they are so big, working class music at its best lol

But who knows what Durrty Goodz is gonna say on his album because the ideas are already there.....Letter To Titch, Take Back The Scene & The Youngers are great songs

[TRU_G]

There are plenty UKHH artists on his level IMO

But in Grime he is gone....

Love the way on 'Give Me The Music' & 'Marijuana' he talks about things all the way through and he could be talking about anything, then he reveals it at the end and it isn't what you think

Very clever

[Mr. Carter]

Kele Oreke from Bloc Party has lyrics too!!!!

[ALM]

Kele Oreke from Bloc Party has lyrics too!!!!

there last album was shit.

[(And Its) T!!!!]

If he doesn't get recognition from the mainstream something is wrong.

agreed

[Mr. Carter]

there last album was shit.

The Prayer was big though

[Molecules]

as my mum would probably have said, Diz isn't any worse than Durrty, he's just different, and it's okay to be different, son. Which ofcourse was bollocks.
still Dizzee and Durrty are two really ambitious musicians who are rooted in grime, I think Dizzee has softened his sound to sell records, but when Goodz gets an itch for some other sounds he just switches, and he pulls it off like he's been doing it all his life.
It would be interesting to find out what part he has in the music other than MCing...does he do beats?
There was a section from the Takeover which was like Switching Songs II, but faster and spanning all urban music ever...gave me motion sickness

[(And Its) T!!!!]

:shock::finger:
OMG!!! just heard durrty goodz xtra (breakdown of 2007)
:cry: dont know what to do with myself!!

[TRU_G]

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah'

I can see some people might think that

But this is a serious question...when you lot listen to alternative/indie/rock bands do you only listen to who is in the charts/NME?

I mean Artic Monkeys are sick, but for an underground genre such as Grime, I would expect the fans to have more independent views than Artic Monkeys, Pete Doherty & Bloc Party or whatever is 'big' according to NME

Same way every bumming off that Adele bird cos she was tipped to be big

Soulja Boy is big in the charts yet we know there is bare MC's/producers miles better

Out there there is so much more better music than what NME says....

[Breathe Beats]

question

axiom or M & E ?

axiom, but only coz im not really feeling hip hop

if m&e was grime, then it would be better than axiom

[ALM]

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah'

I can see some people might think that

But this is a serious question...when you lot listen to alternative/indie/rock bands do you only listen to who is in the charts/NME?

I mean Artic Monkeys are sick, but for an underground genre such as Grime, I would expect the fans to have more independent views than Artic Monkeys, Pete Doherty & Bloc Party or whatever is 'big' according to NME

Same way every bumming off that Adele bird cos she was tipped to be big

Soulja Boy is big in the charts yet we know there is bare MC's/producers miles better

Out there there is so much more better music than what NME says....

nah most underground indie is shit

i.e moaning about girls

[ALM]

axiom, but only coz im not really feeling hip hop

if m&e was grime, then it would be better than axiom

what the same lyrics over grimier beats?

[Breathe Beats]

what the same lyrics over grimier beats?

exactly =]

[Aza T]

Boy in The corner > Axiom > Maths and English

but axiom wasnt an album so u can't really compare it to Boy in the corner

Boy in the corner vs Born Blessed will be very interesting though.

[Mr. Carter]

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah'

I can see some people might think that

But this is a serious question...when you lot listen to alternative/indie/rock bands do you only listen to who is in the charts/NME?

I mean Artic Monkeys are sick, but for an underground genre such as Grime, I would expect the fans to have more independent views than Artic Monkeys, Pete Doherty & Bloc Party or whatever is 'big' according to NME

Same way every bumming off that Adele bird cos she was tipped to be big

Soulja Boy is big in the charts yet we know there is bare MC's/producers miles better

Out there there is so much more better music than what NME says....

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah' .........yeah but it is though isn't it??? lol

The fact is Muse, Artic Monkeys, Bloc Party are great bands, thats why NME talk about them and thats why people like them not a bandwagon ting....

I could've said Lupen Crook, The Cribs or Morrissey to sound "cool" but that wouldn't be the truth because Alex Turner has amazing lyrics and made The Libertines and other NME favs look like any guys

[Aza T]

Origin of Symmetry is a lot

I dont pay attention to Muse anymore; but that release was SOLID.

[(And Its) T!!!!]

I cant see any reason why Born Blessed wont be better than Boy In The Corner.

goodz has more to say and can say it in a better way imo.

[ALM]

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah' .........yeah but it is though isn't it??? lol

The fact is Muse, Artic Monkeys, Bloc Party are great bands, thats why NME talk about them and thats why people like them not a bandwagon ting....

I could've said Lupen Crook, The Cribs or Morrissey to sound "cool" but that wouldn't be the truth because Alex Turner has amazing lyrics and made The Libertines and other NME favs look like any guys

exactly man shouldn't be ignoring certain musicians because nme like them.

[ALM]

I cant see any reason why Born Blessed wont be better than Boy In The Corner.

goodz has more to say and can say it in a better way imo.

I think this, Goodz is much deeper than dizzee.

[Retrofreak]

I cant see any reason why Born Blessed wont be better than Boy In The Corner.

goodz has more to say and can say it in a better way imo.

^^^^Real Talk

[Alias?]

Its a personal ting init.
But he is a certified murkers and Born Blessed is the only grime release I have ever thought could potentially be bigger than BITC.
Time will tell tho still...low us all hypin it too much.

[Mr. Carter]

I remember I got slewed for saying Durrty Goodz's Axiom EP was the best release since Boy In The Corner.......how times change lol

[Alias?]

Black kids can relate to Durrty Goodz.....but anybody black or white can relate to Alex Turner getting boyed by bouncers, chatting up some girl at a club....etc..thats why they are so big, working class music at its best lol

I aint black. You sayin I cant relate to DG cos of that?
Stop chattin breeze please.

[Stringer_Bell]

I still think Axiom Ep was sho but way overated, bait some of the people calling it the best thing since sliced bread have never ever heard it before. Goodz has always been one step ahead then most people but it was just 10tunes loads of mcs would be able to make a sik 10track ep with sick productions...

Il judge after the album...

[ALM]

I remember I got slewed for saying Durrty Goodz's Axiom EP was the best release since Boy In The Corner.......how times change lol

:stunned:

Rwd forum loved axiom.

[TRU_G]

This is not a way of saying 'I listen to more obscure music than you blah blah' .........yeah but it is though isn't it??? lol

The fact is Muse, Artic Monkeys, Bloc Party are great bands, thats why NME talk about them and thats why people like them not a bandwagon ting....

I could've said Lupen Crook, The Cribs or Morrissey to sound "cool" but that wouldn't be the truth because Alex Turner has amazing lyrics and made The Libertines and other NME favs look like any guys

Not really, it just surprises me that fans of an underground scene like Grime lap up the bullshit fed to them by mainstream media outlets

I would of thought somebody spends a sunday in listening to pirate radio of any guy from round the way expressing themselves would see past all that shit and understand you don't have to have had media coverage to make good music

But still I said that I rate Arctic Monkeys and own both their albums

Lol@thinking Morissey makes you cool

The Cribs are poor...

[Mr. Carter]

I aint black. You sayin I cant relate to DG cos of that?
Stop chattin breeze please.

I was talking about Subject Matter, I'm sure you're really down black people so calm down son! Everybody could relate to 2pac because of his lyrics, even on African American matters because he spoke like he was teaching people! Durrty Goodz songs that we are talking about here....that have depth or whatever are lyrically deeper to a black youth than a white youth........where I think Alex Turner can speak for a whole generation of british youths......

[Jakey]

I still think Axiom Ep was sho but way overated, bait some of the people calling it the best thing since sliced bread have never ever heard it before. Goodz has always been one step ahead then most people but it was just 10tunes loads of mcs would be able to make a sik 10track ep with sick productions...

Il judge after the album...

nah they should be able to but they don't

[TRU_G]

I was talking about Subject Matter, I'm sure you're really down black people so calm down son! Everybody could relate to 2pac because of his lyrics, even on African American matters because he spoke like he was teaching people! Durrty Goodz songs that we are talking about here....that have depth or whatever are lyrically deeper to a black youth than a white youth........where I think Alex Turner can speak for a whole generation of british youths......

Also, Goodz is easy to relate to because he talks about street life on tracks like 'Youngers' but in a documentary sort of way, whereas 99% of other MC's talk about it either in a preaching sort of way or boasting that they are hood

[ALM]

can middle class american white kids relate to 50 cent???

[TRU_G]

can middle class american white kids relate to 50 cent???

No but they like to think they can

[ALM]

No but they like to think they can

exactly.

[Hij]

Goodz has impressed me so much in the last 6 months I just hope he sticks a bit with the grime sound as well as the other genres he likes to dabble in as it would be a major shame if he didn't.

His verse on black boys showed the levels.

[Hij]

No but they like to think they can

Im sure 50 cent don't mind :smug:

[Stringer_Bell]

can middle class american white kids relate to 50 cent???

not many middle class black people can either doe

[ALM]

not many middle class black people can either doe

True

I was however referring to the stereotypical 50 cent listener.

[Jakey]

i think the relatin thing is gettin too racially divided, i think its more your surroundings that mean you relate to something or not

[Stringer_Bell]

i think the relatin thing is gettin too racially divided, i think its more your surroundings that mean you relate to something or not

true stories

[ALM]

Ironic

Remember when Goodz said 'fuck these white people'

[Breathe Beats]

Ironic

Remember when Goodz said 'fuck these white people'

what lmfao

link link

[ALM]

what lmfao

link link

Ill see if I can find it

[Stringer_Bell]

Ironic

Remember when Goodz said 'fuck these white people'

yeah very ironic

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/2/2/f_deadendm_6481cd1.jpg

[Breathe Beats]

lol when and why did he say that

[ALM]

yeah very ironic

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/2/2/f_deadendm_6481cd1.jpg

bruv im not racist, fact is black people already have a common link with Goodz.

Like if your english you have a common link with him.

If your working class you have a link with him.

If you feel grime you have a link with him.

If you were raised in the flats you have a link with him.

If you live in a major city you have a link with him.


Im saying it's ironic that were discussing whether Goodz can sell to the majority audience in this country, when a couple years ago he was saying 'fuck these white people'

[ALM]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BRV_0KxPw-E

[Retrofreak]

Ironic

Remember when Goodz said 'fuck these white people'

Oh yeah ..so has Bob Marley,Kanye and 50 Cent ,but they still sell a bucket load of records lol.

Any way that was in response to Goodz and Titch being thrown of the plane when it wasn't Goodz's fault lol

[ALM]

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[Stringer_Bell]

bruv im not racist, fact is black people already have a common link with Goodz.

Like if your english you have a common link with him.

If your working class you have a link with him.

If you feel grime you have a link with him.

If you were raised in the flats you have a link with him.

If you live in a major city you have a link with him.


Im saying it's ironic that were discussing whether Goodz can sell to the majority audience in this country, when a couple years ago he was saying 'fuck these white people'

I doubt he mean as in fuck every white person but probably white as in the:

fedz
teachers
politicians
justice system
courts
record label owners
agents etcetc

Ive even heard white people say that typa stuff about other white people...and malcolm x and tupac and john lennon and kurt cobain and many more.

Your just looking to far into things....

[ALM]

I doubt he mean as in fuck every white person but probably white as in the:

fedz
teachers
politicians
justice system
courts
record label owners
agents etcetc

Ive even heard white people say that typa stuff about other white people...and malcolm x and tupac and john lennon and kurt cobain and many more.

Your just looking to far into things....

lol all im saying is it was a stupid comment.

[Retrofreak]

I doubt he mean as in fuck every white person but probably white as in the:

fedz
teachers
politicians
justice system
courts
record label owners
agents etcetc

Ive even heard white people say that typa stuff about other white people...and malcolm x and tupac and john lennon and kurt cobain and many more.

Your just looking to far into things....

^^^^Real Talk

They mean Fuck the establishment

[ALM]

yeah well whatever lets get back on topic.

[Stringer_Bell]

lol all im saying is it was a stupid comment.

o and i suppose you why he said and what he has experienced so far in his life with the ''white man''

didnt think so...

Not like his music is aimed at chavs it aimed at more intelligent people the way he creates his songs with more intellectual lyrics most other musicians in the uk, if it was to be publises in the mainstream media that he said this years back not many people would care because they would understand him apart from the people with robot type mentality's who would just par his music and call him a racist.

[Jay05]

Whoever thinsk wretch is lyrical is lost.

A lot of his bars r recycled hip hop bars or ideas.

Also not really a fan of goodz, like a song with a message but he doesnt appeal

[Hij]

I got my finger on the lock button, lets veer away from race please.

ta

[Stringer_Bell]

Whoever thinsk wretch is lyrical is lost.

A lot of his bars r recycled hip hop bars or ideas.


If your gonna say that at least cum wid da proof ziimmee...

[ALM]

o and i suppose you why he said and what he has experienced so far in his life with the ''white man''

didnt think so...

Not like his music is aimed at chavs it aimed at more intelligent people the way he creates his songs with more intellectual lyrics most other musicians in the uk, if it was to be publises in the mainstream media that he said this years back not many people would care because they would understand him apart from the people with robot type mentality's who would just par his music and call him a racist.

so using your theory if Gordon Brown said fuck these niggas?

He might just be saying fuck the drug dealers?

swear your lost can we just end the debate now.

[Stringer_Bell]

so using your theory if Gordon Brown said fuck these niggas?

He might just be saying fuck the drug dealers?

You got the typical white mentality to life still

Go research who brings drugs into the country, who controls the imports to England then come back and say the word niggas init.

[ALM]

You got the typical white mentality to life still

Go research who brings drugs into the country, who controls the imports to England then come back and say the word niggas init.

white mentality

do you know the colour of my skin?

you are the racist one son.

[Breathe Beats]

what a dickhead comment

imagine if it was devlin and he said fuck these black people on camera

waste

[Retrofreak]

Wretch -is one of the most lyrical ,but he lacks flow and personality.
Devlin -is sick with the vocabulary ,but I find him monotone and robotic

Goodz is way ahead because he has a fine balance of flows and lyrics and manages to write from different angles.

[Stringer_Bell]

white mentality

do you know the colour of my skin?

you are the racist one son.

lol one of them bait comments when you run out of stuff to say

as you wud say

your an

''angry little man''

[Retrofreak]

I got my finger on the lock button, lets veer away from race please.

ta

---------------- llow it guys!

[Stringer_Bell]

what a dickhead comment

imagine if it was devlin and he said fuck these black people on camera

waste

theres no reason for him to though....

you lot are just to immature to discuss it like mature human beings..

[ALM]

lol one of them bait comments when you run out of stuff to say

as you wud say

your an

''angry little man''

the reason im trying to steer the arguement away from race is because hij asked to. If you want to argue more pm me.

[0161]

Angry Little Man used to be angry on RWD ages ago

Kinda mellow now

[hyperfrank]

If I was been stared at like I was a terrorist and got chucked off of a plan. I would say FUCKKK >>>THESE<<< white people.

This was yearsss ago and isn't even relevent, he seems like a completely different person since he's come back. Over positive about everything!!

[ALM]

Angry Little Man used to be angry on RWD ages ago

Kinda mellow now

people grow up still.

[Stringer_Bell]

the reason im trying to steer the arguement away from race is because hij asked to. If you want to argue more pm me.

no point would just be wasting my time

**locks posts from angry little man towards me**

[0161]

people grow up still.


Yeh, id like to think i have as well :shifty:

[ALM]

no point would just be wasting my time

**locks posts from angry little man towards me**

lol bruv I dont even know what your argument is, it's completely incoherent.

[0161]

Anyway

Even if Goodz album is better then BIDC i don't think it will be as much of a classic

I can't explain very well but its just becasue it was 1 of a kind BIDC, it will never be topped

[Jay05]

Anyway

Even if Goodz album is better then BIDC i don't think it will be as much of a classic

I can't explain very well but its just becasue it was 1 of a kind BIDC, it will never be topped

thats true

BIDC was the first commercial grime release. It was the first time a lot of people heard grime.

The way gime is produced has changed now too.

[Demos]

i dont think goodz could top bidc, dont think anyone could

[adidasgrandad]

this threads confusing lol
the scene is so lucky to have him in it. hes a class above everyone else. he is prob the best mc in the country overall. the ways he attacks tracks and concepts, his various flows, the power of his words...everyhting. if theres only 3 grime tracks on his album il be grateful. his next mixtape should be a classic though

[Retrofreak]

this threads confusing lol
the scene is so lucky to have him in it. hes a class above everyone else. he is prob the best mc in the country overall. the ways he attacks tracks and concepts, his various flows, the power of his words...everyhting. if theres only 3 grime tracks on his album il be grateful. his next mixtape should be a classic though

^^^^agreed

[adidasgrandad]

^^^^agreed

i just nicked part of what you said last night still lol

[Jay05]

this threads confusing lol
the scene is so lucky to have him in it. hes a class above everyone else. he is prob the best mc in the country overall. the ways he attacks tracks and concepts, his various flows, the power of his words...everyhting. if theres only 3 grime tracks on his album il be grateful. his next mixtape should be a classic though

No hype but grime has 10 mc / artists who music i enjoy so much more than any other genre. I like dubstep / dnb / hip hop and some soul too

[Stringer_Bell]

he seems smart aswell compared to people like d double, wiley,

he thinks outside the box..

[goodz]who reli brings cocaine in the land it didnt just walk on the plane and get in my hand[goodz]

[TRU_G]

he seems smart aswell compared to people like d double, wiley,

he thinks outside the box..

[goodz]who reli brings cocaine in the land it didnt just walk on the plane and get in my hand[goodz]

I wouldn't say he is a scholar, he is obviously very intelligent, but his cleverness shines through the way he can translate almost anything he wants to say into flowing bars

[Jay05]

[goodz]who reli brings cocaine in the land it didnt just walk on the plane and get in my hand[goodz]

no hype but i think that is a lil cliched.

[Retrofreak]

no hype but i think that is a lil cliched.

The context he used it in was not cliched as it was a kid talking.

[Stringer_Bell]

no hype but i think that is a lil cliched.

?

[adidasgrandad]

I wouldn't say he is a scholar, he is obviously very intelligent, but his cleverness shines through the way he can translate almost anything he wants to say into flowing bars

exactly. thats what i was thinking while i was listenin to the 2007 bars. i dont know anyone else withing grime who can do it the way he can

[Jay05]

The context he used it in was not cliched as it was a kid talking.

just heard a lot of hip hop bars talkin of the goverment bringin coke in etc

[4737]

Doesn't make it any less true.

t.

[Webstarr]

back on topic...

I think Jehst, Kyza, Chester P & Skinnyman are all at least on the levels of Goodz lyrically

[Demos]

back on topic...

I think Jehst, Kyza, Chester P & Skinnyman are all at least on the levels of Goodz lyrically

yeah but goodz has a better flow then all of them, including kyza (whos got a sik flow)

[Jay05]

Doesn't make it any less true.

t.

IMO i dont think its true

[TRU_G]

IMO i dont think its true

You don't?

You try come back from south america with a key of blow, see if you get caught or not

[Retrofreak]

yeah but goodz has a better flow then all of them, including kyza (whos got a sik flow)

Co-signed

Goodz is triple threat his got

1.Lyrics
2.Flows
3.Personality

He can spray anyway he want to..
The only Mc's that are versatile like that are mans like Jay-z and Eminem.

[Odotkae]

WOW! Doogz Fans Have Increased A Lot!
In My Eyes GH>>>Goodz

[4737]

IMO i dont think its true

If you think of the sheer volume of drugs like Cocaine getting into the country, it can't all be down to good planning/smuggling. I don't doubt there's collusion on some level. Drugs are a good way of keeping certain sections of society in their place, and overshadowing wider problems while creating a convenient scapegoat for Daily Mail readers to cough into their morning tea about.

t.

[Stringer_Bell]

You don't?

You try come back from south america with a key of blow, see if you get caught or not

Get me.....

[Stringer_Bell]

WOW! Doogz Fans Have Increased A Lot!
In My Eyes GH>>>Goodz

Not reli its just this a goodz appreciation topic were as on rwd it full of wastehedz chatting air

[Stringer_Bell]

The CIA have even been proven to bring import drugs into the usa

Theres many reasons why they do it but theres no point going to far off topic

Listen to IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE - PERUVIAN COCAINE

[SHANK BUTCHER]

i was reading through wanting to make a point or say something new but everythings covered lol, some big and solid points brought up innit, and Goodz is one of the most solid 3 dimentional artists around at the moment, can't wait for the album. true about 50 aswell

[SHANK BUTCHER]

back on topic...

I think Jehst, Kyza, Chester P & Skinnyman are all at least on the levels of Goodz lyrically


Skinny's more of a recognized character and image for ukhh i reckon though, old time soldier of the uk scene, his flows and subjects are good n that but i don think he's on the same as jehst or chester. have you heard chesters reply to wordsmith? that's alot.

grew up on jehst though n even though i've left my love for ukhh behnd a bit now i still can't beat a bit of the drifter

[Pred]

Some drug smuggling is surely down to bribing people who could get in their way, not all drug smuggling is the government.

And they say "white man brings drugs in" but Government men do. Colour can fuck off.

[bailey_187]

people are talking about man like jehst or kashmere beng better lyricists but what do they actualy talk about in their songs? nothing. just string aload of long words together.
same goes for taskforce.(even though i like them)

[Mister Lacey]

I've thought this for time.
Even the best UKHH MC's aint on his level imo.
Of course it's all a matter of opinion though innit.
Everyone knows Goodz is too much though.
I'm telling you Impulse will be up there too.

[Omni]

I can tell he is an amazingly talented mc but their are many people that I'd rather listen to or buy material of. I don't know what it is that makes me not hyped about what he does because I know flowing and lyrically it will be toppa the top.

[Retrofreak]

I've thought this for time.
Even the best UKHH MC's aint on his level imo.
Of course it's all a matter of opinion though innit.
Everyone knows Goodz is too much though.
I'm telling you Impulse will be up there too.

^^^^Real

A good mc can always make a standard beat sound good case in point.

Soulja Boy with BBK =Swag

Soulja Boy with Goodz=Pure Fire!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[adidasgrandad]

nah soulja boy still sounded swag lol

[Retrofreak]

nah soulja boy still sounded swag lol

Nah his bars on that sounded ridiculous.

[adidasgrandad]

yeah i agree goodz bars were big but soulja boy was not

[Retrofreak]

yeah i agree goodz bars were big but soulja boy was not

Yeah,

I hate the Soulja boy beat, but i'd rather listen to Goodz spray over it than JME and Skepta swaging it in the Big apple.
If Goodz or Ghetto went to NY they would have murked of them beats easy!!

[adidasgrandad]

indeed. BBk were a bit of a joke. should have taken j2k

[Retrofreak]

indeed. BBk were a bit of a joke. should have taken j2k

Yeah J2K sick also,

But I'm not sure if he'd skip over the beat like Goodz.
Them bars that Goodz dropped over the duffel bag tune where crazy!!

[adidasgrandad]

bout lame mc's?yeah that was big

[Retrofreak]

bout lame mc's?yeah that was big

The Little Wayne beat, the rhyme scheme on that freestyle is nutz

"I put the Thunder on any cat call me the Mum-Ra" -Big

"I burn skins like slide tackles on astro"

[adidasgrandad]

rah i dunno lol there were too many big moments i cant remember some

[Fewie]

Wretch 32 best lyricist

[bailey_187]

Wretch 32 best lyricist

wretch couldnt write a song like marajuana

[Retrofreak]

wretch couldnt write a song like marajuana

^^^ innit

maybe he could now after he's heard it? lol!!

Really though Goodz has the balance of lyrics and flows.
Wretch is sick but his 2 dimensional imo

[ALM]

Wretch has no charisma, he can right bars but his flow is boring.

[Fewie]

Wretch has no charisma, he can right bars but his flow is boring.
true, but still da best for me personally

[bailey_187]

wretch is overated lyricaly

[Retrofreak]

Wretch is lyrically the best in the movement followed by Devlin.
But they both lack personality and diversity of flows imo.

[Fewie]

wretch is overated lyricaly
nahh man, all his tunes got meaning, learn from my mixtape best mixtape for meaningful relatable tunes, nm punctuation was big very big, he aint really grime but hes lyrically top3 selected

[Fewie]

Wretch is lyrically the best in the movement followed by Devlin.
But they both lack personality and diversity of flows imo.
yea devlin is sick he at da top der aswell

for me its
1.wretch
2.devlin
3.goodz

[SHANK BUTCHER]

^^^ innit

maybe he could now after he's heard it? lol!!

Really though Goodz has the balance of lyrics and flows.
Wretch is sick but his 2 dimensional imo

SAID! wretch can suck my dick compared to durrty

[Retrofreak]

yea devlin is sick he at da top der aswell

for me its
1.wretch
2.devlin
3.goodz

True just based on Lyrics i'd rate wretch.
But for me it's about lyrics and flow..
It's kinda like comparing Jay-z to Nas..
Nas is lyrically better ,but his flow is flat in comparison so Jigga wins as an all-rounder.

It's easier to spit deep lyrics with a standard flow (Uk Hip Hop) the real challenge is having both on lock and thats where Goodz excels.

[abass]

beautiful living is a big tune i been playin it alot 4 a few years

[Dave*]

Where is this album?

[margadread]

wretch couldnt write a song like marajuana

.

[LC1]

Kele Oreke from Bloc Party has lyrics too!!!!

he is a bit of a cliche' now. like lately he tries to hard to make a line make a powerful point or have a deep meaning. but i used to love the way he told a story using lyrics, metaphors etc that were quite random and clever.

i'd say mike skinner is more insightful and detailed than goodz.

i'll say it, i know its controversial but..... if trim could talk more about things in society and everyday life instead odf concentrating on other mc's or himself too much,, his word play and devices to get accross what he means would make him as good as goodz. the way he plays with words and phrases is clever and funny and if they were about more powerful things then he could be better. goodz has got a skilled quick flow but trim is skippy i prefer his flow

[Good-Fella]

WOW! Doogz Fans Have Increased A Lot!
In My Eyes GH>>>Goodz

id agree with that tbh, ghetto is very consistent, axiom wasnt even an album 2 compare it to BIDC

[D.MAN]

he is a bit of a cliche' now. like lately he tries to hard to make a line make a powerful point or have a deep meaning. but i used to love the way he told a story using lyrics, metaphors etc that were quite random and clever.

i'd say mike skinner is more insightful and detailed than goodz.

i'll say it, i know its controversial but..... if trim could talk more about things in society and everyday life instead odf concentrating on other mc's or himself too much,, his word play and devices to get accross what he means would make him as good as goodz. the way he plays with words and phrases is clever and funny and if they were about more powerful things then he could be better. goodz has got a skilled quick flow but trim is skippy i prefer his flow

i want what uve been smokeing

[GrimeKid2K8]

id agree with that tbh, ghetto is very consistent, axiom wasnt even an album 2 compare it to BIDC

Qft

[Hij]

Would users please note that nothing gets locked due to sob stories or anything like that from MC's. I normally work with MC's on promotion and still give my honest opinion on here, which can lead to politics, but its nothing.

Goodz threads are fine. Crazy Titch threads are fine. Its been policy for a long time to not allow discussion on Titch's case. If you wish to discuss this off the site, you are entitled to do so, but unless you are directly related, know anyone involved or were in the court room, its likely people are going to be spreading malicious lies and I'd rather it didn't happen here. I'd hope you would respect my decision on that.

Any notion that we block Goodz and Titch threads in regards their music is pure bollocks- I think they both made/make great music and perhaps people could talk about their music in this thread, rather than wasting their day away, complaining about things that aren't even there- there is no anti Goodz agenda at all, infact its incredible people believe there is one.

If not, I am gonna start banning people coz it is actually beginning to annoy me now.

Here is the thread to discuss Goodz, if you wish to ruin it, you have only yourselves to blame.

[Breathe Beats]

goodz = number one spitter right now

[GrimeKid2K8]

goodz = number one spitter right now

I haven't been paying much attention to goodz. Haven't bought any of his mixtapes or anything.

Any chance you can advise me on any goodz stuff to buy when i visit RD? Or even a link to a few tunes(legal stuff)

[D.MAN]

kmt my thread got locked

[impbatchft]

The two songs ive got on the album are grime n i hear someone else on hear sayin they have two grime beats on thier so at least four i know of.i think because of his versatility it would be unfair to expect a complete 140 bpm cd when you are an ace of so many genres

[The Oracle]

Wretch is lyrically the best in the movement followed by Devlin.
But they both lack personality and diversity of flows imo.

c/s

[Quality Control]

wiley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doogz true stories

[BananaMan]

I Hope it has hiphop on it tbh.

[Retrofreak]

Goodz>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wiley true stories

Fixed.

[Smith]

i think wretch has bags of personality, but in terms of style, he's a anathema to the grime scene

[Hij]

Fixed.
Need to hear more from Goodz to be honest though, its been a while.

[Retrofreak]

He wont disappoint.

[Smith]

we'll have to see