MPC Mandem (Anonymous your time).

[Danny Trejo]

Greatest piece of kit ever, in my opinion. MPC2000 >>>
I'm going to post one shortly, probably this new thing I'm working on.

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Mannie Fresh

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Pete Rock

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Some unknown dude with a decent riddim.

Join in innit.

[Anonymous]

Oh shit. Quite possibly my favourite thread already. I love the MPC but I'm swag at live stuff.

Thes One is a amazing producer, lacks the recognition and popularity he deserves. Up there with the Madlibs and the Cut Chemists. Talking of which...
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I got this DVD the other day, it's like a producer clash but they DJ'ing and they have their MPC's, SP's, ASR's etc. with them and they just reeling off beats and live improvisation at times. It's sick. Got it from Juno iirc. Check it out.

Just Blaze on his MPC4000 but I see an interview recently and he said he's dropped using the MPC (Despite recently buying the 5000) and he does all his stuff on Logic now.
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Slightly off topic but still sampler orientated, Ski Beatz showing how he made Dead Presidents for Jay Z on the SP1200
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Kanye West on 60 minutes "A which beat?" lmfao
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Pete Rock again, on Beat Kings
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Some guy called Boon Doc, his videos are quite popular
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Black Milk making a beat
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And a video of Exile which can be found here: http://vimeo.com/2558888

And finally, an image of a great on his
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LOL @ it taking me 30 - 45 mins to make this post.

[Steez]

Rah, I owned an MPC 2000XL at one point. Didn't like it, it was so disjointed from the rest of my music stuff, all being MIDI and synth based.

I know people who love theirs to bits though.

Just Blaze gave up on his now though and changed to Logic. There's a video showing how he chops his stuff up now somewhere on YouTube.

[Danny Trejo]

there is no better piece of hardware in terms of what I do and the type of music I like than the MPC

[Steez]

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Seen. My bad, didn't see that.

Always thought he had a REALLY odd workflow on his MPC video though, the way he chopped and made the beat seemed ridiculously long

[Anonymous]

We have an Akai S300 at work which isn't too bad but the ease of use of the MPC trumpts it by far. The Emu SP1200 is also legendary in the field of samplers but I;ve never had the opportunity to use one. Madlib uses the Boss SP-303 :|.

[Danny Trejo]

dj shadow made entroducing with two turntables and an mpc 60. Fucked.

[Anonymous]

dj shadow made entroducing with two turntables and an mpc 60. Fucked.

Yeah I saw a video of him on his MPC60 on Youtube before.

[Steez]

We have an Akai S300 at work which isn't too bad but the ease of use of the MPC trumpts it by far. The Emu SP1200 is also legendary in the field of samplers but I;ve never had the opportunity to use one. Madlib uses the Boss SP-303 :|.
That the one Alchemist uses?

[S.Dubz]

Seen all of these & all of them are very talented. Boon Doc makes incredibly soulful music hes underated.

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

MPCs a nice for drums, and making hiphop.

i can sample/chop/layer etc faster on a pc than anyone on an mpc.

the only pro's of the mpc are having the pads and thats it. buy a midi padset and bless.

also whats long is you have to have samples. you cant just turn it on and jam, and make sounds, or play a quick bass in. no u need the same bait drums everyone else has on MPC drums 2008 disc lol.

guess u can tell i sold mine.

biggup the hiphop heads tho.

Biggup the mandem who no how to link it up and use it as a live controller, now thats a lot - but agen easily achievable with other things

[Retrofreak]

MPC's are the best.

I've programmed most of them and for me it's:

MPC60>>MPC3000>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Rest

The MPC60 has a warm sound on kicks and sound thicker and punchier than the rest imho.

The groove and ease of use is unmatched

The new MPC's have much more functions, but they don't swing as much and sound thinner.

[Anonymous]

;416025']i can sample/chop/layer etc faster on a pc than anyone on an mpc.

Thats a bold statement cuz lol.


;416025']the only pro's of the mpc are having the pads and thats it. buy a midi padset and bless.

also whats long is you have to have samples. you cant just turn it on and jam, and make sounds, or play a quick bass in. no u need the same bait drums everyone else has on MPC drums 2008 disc lol.

LOL @ the only pro's. No way.

I'd argue for alot of things you need samples/ But if someone didn't have samples then why would they be buying one in the first place unless they just want to use it's sequencer or they don't have a clue.
And what is stopping you from just turning it on and jamming? or playing a bass in? Hook up a synth and just record in to it's sequencer or just sample some notes. Granted you can't do this with all models but the recent ones like the 1000 or 2500 it's easy. The 5000 has a synth built it.
And if anybody is using drums off a disc from eBay then they shouldn't have one in the first place. Going digging for breaks and cutting them up is half the fun more time.

[Anonymous]

MPC's are the best.

I've programmed most of them and for me it's:

MPC60>>MPC3000>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The Rest

The MPC60 has a warm sound on kicks and sound thicker and punchier than the rest imho.

The groove and ease of use is unmatched

The new MPC's have much more functions, but they don't swing as much and sound thinner.

I feel that, the Roger Linn ones, as you say >

The MPC60 tends to have such a warm sound as the sampler is 12 bit (@ 40hz I think?) which is what obviously gives it the punch. It's beautiful though, and editing samples by ear lol. Even though the 3000 is 16 bit, I think it's the swing and their distinctive sound that makes them so popular among the real MP enthusiasts like Premo and Jay Dee. And like you say that just isn't there with the new models like the 2500 and the 1000, they feel too gimmicky and too digital.

[Retrofreak]

I feel that, the Roger Linn ones, as you say >

The MPC60 tends to have such a warm sound as the sampler is 12 bit (@ 40hz I think?) which is what obviously gives it the punch. It's beautiful though, and editing samples by ear lol. Even though the 3000 is 16 bit, I think it's the swing and their distinctive sound that makes them so popular among the real MP enthusiasts like Premo and Jay Dee. And like you say that just isn't there with the new models like the 2500 and the 1000, they feel too gimmicky and too digital.

Agreed.

The 60's groove and sound is better than the 3000, but the 3000 has more functionality.

When Roger Linn stopped designing the MPC's for Akai they turned slightly bubble gum imo.

If you load the same soundset into each MPC it will be as followed:

MPC 60: Sounds bigger, more weighty, louder with slight dulling on the high end...drum sound sick when you drive the input gain switch also.
Swing is insane.

MPC 3000: Loud, but drum's sound much smaller/thinner and bright on top end.
Groove is straighter then the 60...so it bounces, but not as much imo.

MPC 2000: sounds more like a 3000, but the groove is even straighter and sounds stiff at times, better to program with no quantize imo.

[Steez]

lol ?nowman deaded himself when the pads were the only good feature ... the note repeat slider is fucking amazing ... I haven't ever seen that recreated in software

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

As i said before, there only really good for using sample based work.

you can turn it on and jam.
but as i said only with samples etc....

i was stating my opinion there not really for me as a more musical based producer

if ur gunna use ur own samples and record into logic then ur nice.

Just over the years ive engineered countless sessions where sumones brought an mpc jammed out made a beat, and ive parred them at every level, they use samples which u cud jus use in any computer based sequencer?

and u have to record it all into protools for a mix/master anyway.??????

obviously u can route it to a mixer, patch it to mastering hardware and do it all by ear cool.

so back to my original statement. there only good for hiphop, if u like making raw choppy drum sample based stuff. (which u then record a pc to master anyway)

oh yer, an the live element is sick once again, when u have 4/5 linked up and make a beat live, (then agen u got ableton live on a laptop >> far more advanced)

(p.s - Please bare in mind i used these throughout my degree and had a 2500xl for 3 years :) )

Statuz - learn your software mate.

[Steez]

LOL @ learn your software shortly after dropping the degree thing like I ain't got a degree.

Despite that epic reply, which was apparently aimed at me, you managed to elude yourself in responding the one feature I drew attention to which was the note repeat function?

So yeah, try again


Also, for workflow, assuming your musicians are a lot, the MPC can be a great recording tool if you have the effects board you could easily record live instruments into it and mix them with the vintage MPC sound and swing.


Music is all about personal preference and vibe anyway, if the MPC is good for you, then cool.

[Anonymous]

Just picked up a MPC2000XL. I had the 1000 but it was falling to bits, pads were dying etc.
I wouldn't have gone for the 2000XL normally, but this thing is literally like new. Some guy had it in storage, I see it advertised locally and had to do it 'cos I was in the market for a MPC anyway. I picked it up for £380. Has the 32 meg upgrade, 8 outs, 250 meg internal drive. It's a beauty.

[Demos]

Just picked up a MPC2000XL. I had the 1000 but it was falling to bits, pads were dying etc.
I wouldn't have gone for the 2000XL normally, but this thing is literally like new. Some guy had it in storage, I see it advertised locally and had to do it 'cos I was in the market for a MPC anyway. I picked it up for £380. Has the 32 meg upgrade, 8 outs, 250 meg internal drive. It's a beauty.

lol lucky.

i wish i could have an MPC

[Anonymous]

Looking back at this thread. Epic lol's at saying they're only good for drums and sampling. The sequencer is immense and the midi capabilities of most of the MPC's are great too. You don't necessarily have to track out to PT/Logic etc. either, I see guys using stand alone track recorders. You can use Logic or whatever as much as you like, and have all the functions of an mpc on your pc, you still ain't touching Jay Dee, Premo, The Chocolate Boy Wonder etc.

Some people just don't like working with computers. Like the guy I got the MPC off, his front room was just stacked with new and beautifully old gear. I spoke to him about why he had so much hardware and he said he just can't work with computers, they make him feel "claustrophobic", god knows what he meant. But it's whatever floats your boat at the end of the day and what you feel most comfortable with.

[Steez]

^ I feel the opposite still. Not using computers drives me mad. Having everything in an instant is a lot for workflow.

I had an Limited Edition MPC2xl for a while but didn't like it, was trying to use synths on PC and that for the drums/sampling/sequencing ... found it too disjointed and slow tbh

But that's just how I work personally, anyone whose ever seen me program drums on a PC has made a comment about the levels. I can read them fruity grids and shit like people read sheet music.

[Anonymous]

I like using computers, but I prefer hardware. I just feel more creative and stuff. I get the same sort of feeling when buying physical music as opposed to these disposable pieces of binary. It's the way I feel about software and hardware. No offense to anyone using software still.

[Steez]

I like using computers, but I prefer hardware. I just feel more creative and stuff. I get the same sort of feeling when buying physical music as opposed to these disposable pieces of binary. It's the way I feel about software and hardware. No offense to anyone using software still.
I'm the exact opposite still. I like instant-ness/convenience