International Grime?

[Prometheus.]

So, who has some great international (as in, not british) grime?

I have: swedish and brazilian, so far. Heard a norwegian grime tune once...

[JACK]

grimes also in germany, czech, poland and holland (one of dem dutch guys uses dis forum aswell)

[Demos]

theres french grime and american grime too

[Prometheus.]

American grime?
any names?

[4737]

"first city" are the NY crew.

t.

[JACK]

argentina too, i memba one guy from here havin few argentinian manz on his show

[Demos]

American grime?
any names?

j courage, sick producer:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=5527179

[Prometheus.]

I have some stuff from angola that has a grime feeling to it as well..

the NYC guys had some nice beats on myspace...

[adidasgrandad]

yeah that new york grime group were kinda good

[R.dot.Tubbs]

j courage, sick producer:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=5527179

this guys sick!

[Jason P]

*waves*

[Prometheus.]

*waves*



the balkans...where in the balkans, to be exact?

[Jason P]

Bulgaria

[Danny Trejo]

there's some american album by (i think) elijah & magi, called brothers grime or something.

this is finnish, it was free;
http://www.divshare.com/download/2969485-16c

[Wiz]

I've heard some okay stuff, but to be honest I haven't heard anything special from outside the country in this genre.

Unless you wanna count that RNBish Tinchy Stryder tune on his new EP.

[critic of musical arts]

ish that j courage guy has some mucky beats

[ALM]

max peezy is fucking sick.

[Prometheus.]

max peezy is fucking sick.

and a very decent guy too. (yup, I know him, met him last week)

It's funny that he's on practice hours.

[ALM]

and a very decent guy too. (yup, I know him, met him last week)

It's funny that he's on practice hours.

Yeah he's alot

[Prometheus.]

Fattaru Feat Max Peezay & Nimo - Stila Upp Din Skit

http://rapidshare.com/files/93000103/11-fattaru-stila_upp_din_skit_feat._nimo_max_peezay_prod._sal la-bkw.mp3.html

00:35 - mackan, goin' on showa...
01:12 - peezay killin it

[RISKY!]

American grime?
any names?

Jae Millez
Mista Fab
Jin
them kinda underground US people

[Prometheus.]

Jae Millez
Mista Fab
Jin
them kinda underground US people

jin...as in the asian dude from miami?

[Tangelo]

Iv heard of:
Max Peezey
Ego6
J Courage and loads of americans (borderline of dubstep)
Buckfaster/Hendy from Scotland
Welsh Crew/Producers
JapanGang
And some african guys

[Prometheus.]

Iv heard of:
Max Peezey
Ego6
J Courage and loads of americans (borderline of dubstep)
Buckfaster/Hendy from Scotland
Welsh Crew/Producers
JapanGang
And some african guys

Japanese? wow.
Africans, yeah, heard it in angola..

[RISKY!]

jin...as in the asian dude from miami?

the chnise guy

search Jin & freestyle Friday on youtube Hes the best MC & freestyles

[Prometheus.]

the chnise guy

search Jin & freestyle Friday on youtube Hes the best MC & freestyles

ah I have his album an ting..not grime, tho..

[RISKY!]

i know :s

its US grime -- but they call it underground.

[Prometheus.]

i know :s

its US grime -- but they call it underground.

so grime's not a genre, but another name for underground?
so, what's the english version of mainstream hiphop if grime= underground.

[RISKY!]

so grime's not a genre, but another name for underground?
so, what's the english version of mainstream hiphop if grime= underground.

just UK Hiphop & yeah grime is a name wiley [& a few others made up] - its not rely a genre.

[Eric Cantona]

Matt Shadtek is American aint he, Produces for Jammer and made the beat for that sick Skepta freestyle.

[Prometheus.]

just UK Hiphop & yeah grime is a name wiley [& a few others made up] - its not rely a genre.

but the UK thing is diffrent, I see grime as a genre still..I mean listen to..say..blak twang. That's hiphop.
then listen to..say, wiley, skepta, jammer ect.the beats diffrent, well diffrent..just listen to the drum pattern an' tings.

Like in the US, mainstream hiphop is hiphop being made on major labels, videos, huge releases ect..underground is mixtapes, 12" singles..closer to what grime is..but grime doesnt really, IMHO, have a "mainstream" like how USA have mainstream/underground.

[Prometheus.]

Matt Shadtek is American aint he, Produces for Jammer and made the beat for that sick Skepta freestyle.

wow, how could I forget about shadetek.
is mad tings.

[RISKY!]

Matt Shadtek is American aint he, Produces for Jammer and made the beat for that sick Skepta freestyle.

is that that guy on the RISKY ROADS DVD's ?

[Tangelo]

Yeah you no that hip-hop track on Tokyo Drift. When they all raving in the car park?
That guy apparently makes grime or his production team does, i remember seeing the myspace ages ago

[RISKY!]

but the UK thing is diffrent, I see grime as a genre still..I mean listen to..say..blak twang. That's hiphop.
then listen to..say, wiley, skepta, jammer ect.the beats diffrent, well diffrent..just listen to the drum pattern an' tings.

Like in the US, mainstream hiphop is hiphop being made on major labels, videos, huge releases ect..underground is mixtapes, 12" singles..closer to what grime is..but grime doesnt really, IMHO, have a "mainstream" like how USA have mainstream/underground.

yeah i say if your unsigned its underground - grime or w.e you call it its still the same.

[4737]

Buckfaster/Hendy from Scotland
Welsh Crew/Producers


wales and scotland are part of the uk.

t.

[4737]

just UK Hiphop & yeah grime is a name wiley [& a few others made up] - its not rely a genre.

http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/L3640263.jpg

t.

[RISKY!]

LOL
but i think its not

[Eric Cantona]

LMAO at risky's sub-heading! Just clocked it

[RISKY!]

LMAO at risky's sub-heading! Just clocked it

:D:evilgrin:

[4737]

LOL
but i think its not

Well, some people think some crazy shit. Case in point, methinks.

t.

[Mister Lacey]

I gave up reading this thread now cos its fucking ruined.
Seriously Jin aint Grime. Tell me how underground US Hip Hop is Grime. Immortal Technique is Wileys US counterpart yeah?
Seriously man.

If anyone has serious international Grime links post them in here.
I'm interested in US genuine Grime heads as I live here.

[RISKY!]

I gave up reading this thread now cos its fucking ruined.
Seriously Jin aint Grime. Tell me how underground US Hip Hop is Grime. Immortal Technique is Wileys US counterpart yeah?
Seriously man.

If anyone has serious international Grime links post them in here.
I'm interested in US genuine Grime heads as I live here.

no grime is UK underground - but wiley called it eski when it was called that but it got the name grime somehow

[Mister Lacey]

no grime is UK underground - but wiley called it eski when it was called that but it got the name grime somehow

Grime is NOT UK underground bruv. You cannot generalize all UK underground music as Grime. There are plenty UK Hip Hop underground artists that aint Grime bruv and Dance acts DnB acts... and so on.
Grime has a right to be it's own Genre now I feel but even if it didn't it still would not be the general name of everything UK underground.

[Prometheus.]

Grime is NOT UK underground bruv. You cannot generalize all UK underground music as Grime. There are plenty UK Hip Hop underground artists that aint Grime bruv and Dance acts DnB acts... and so on.
Grime has a right to be it's own Genre now I feel but even if it didn't it still would not be the general name of everything UK underground.

true tings. grime = genre. Dunno what Riskys on..

I will upload more international grime when I get home. Need to find my angolan cd's too.

[R.dot.Tubbs]

just UK Hiphop & yeah grime is a name wiley [& a few others made up] - its not rely a genre.

someone ban this chief, some un-educated yoot

[KingSizeBlues]

LOL Risky you're 100x more dumb then I thought you was rude girl.
Dont post in this thread again....actually, dont post in any thread again. :dozey:

That J Courage make's big boy beats.

[RISKY!]

LOL Risky you're 100x more dumb then I thought you was rude girl.
Dont post in this thread again....actually, dont post in any thread again. :dozey:

That J Courage make's big boy beats.

fuck off u gay fag....

[KingSizeBlues]

fuck off u gay fag....

LOL sorry man, did I hit a nerve? :laugh:
Go sign-on and shatap. :drunk:

[RISKY!]

u didn't hit a nerve - just killed the whole thread

[Skola]

risky got boyed off rwd then vip2

his posts hold on weight imo

[Aych]

he aint been boyed off

[R.dot.Tubbs]

lol@risky catching feelings

did deducting a reputation point from me make you feel any better?

you wasteman

[R.dot.Tubbs]

risky got boyed off rwd then vip2

his posts hold on weight imo

his life holds no weight, he is the true definition of a wasteman.

[Jason P]

eligh and magi - hot asphalt grime

IS A FUCKIN LOT
heard it long ago and got a bit interested in grime





ps. thread ruiners

[JACK]

his life holds no weight, he is the true definition of a wasteman.

co-signed

[Standard]

Some Dj called Megatron in San Francisco plays grime but we're going back a bit now. Dunno if he still does

[RISKY!]

his life holds no weight, he is the true definition of a wasteman.

ITS FORUMS -- why do i care what you think of me .... its the internet :angry:

[Aych]

lol Skola, R Dot Tubbs, Cookie...does it make you feel better to say that stuff? cuz at the end of the day what your saying is waste...isnt acheiving anything...isnt even an opinion worth listening to...therefore you are waste. that is all :D

[Wiz]

he aint been boyed off

he boyed off himself munchin on that cd cover

[Aych]

you lot would have alot more to say is hed pussied out...

[S.Man]

Has Nekkle Camp got that US producer...Matt Shadetek or something?

Havnt really herd any grime from overseas, will check out some when i get home!

[Quality Control]

...Iz It All Producers Or r There Sum Emcees tOO!?..

[RISKY!]

you lot would have alot more to say is hed pussied out...
lol you know that.

& eating that cover -- i guess you just saw the video & never listened to the audio..... get all the facts b4 u try it

[Wiz]

you lot would have alot more to say is hed pussied out...

not really

was there anything in it for him though? I could respect someone who ate a CD cover for a G or even a few hundred, but as far as I'm aware he took a bet where he could either loose, or win nothing

[Wiz]

lol you know that.

& eating that cover -- i guess you just saw the video & never listened to the audio..... get all the facts b4 u try it

drop some facts then,
you have tried dropping knowledge in 2 topic i've been in today and failed....maybe you should take your own advice there

[RISKY!]

drop some facts then,
you have tried dropping knowledge in 2 topic i've been in today and failed....maybe you should take your own advice there

its not knowledge it what i THINK. & not hating but just listen to the audio

[Wiz]

can you not just state the reasonable explanation on why you ate the thing?

if it was a 2 sided bet then yes...that's a reason (i.e. whoever lost the bet would have to eat the cover)
if you got paid then yes...that's a reason

it's not hard to explain yourself, but it is long to find audio of an old set i never listened to, of a date i don't know

[Aych]

it was a forfeit! he had a challenge to shot some cds, but he failed so therefore he had to do the forfeit. ive said all this before somewhere else. but at the end of the day Risky is tryna pay suttin back to the scene, Scratcha gave him that challenge of shotting cds so he could do that.

[whats_the_score?]

we getting back on topic yeah?

shout to DJ whoa-B from the US playing grime and dubstep in raves over there.

[RISKY!]

we getting back on topic yeah?

shoud to DJ whoa-B from the US playing grime and dubstep in raves over there.

LOL....
i listened to him before -- u got anything from him ?

[Quality Control]

...Iz It All Producers Or r There Sum Emcees Too!?..

...Answa Meeee :angry:....

[whats_the_score?]

LOL....
i listened to him before -- u got anything from him ?

Just the two sets he has posted oh here:

http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1024&highlight=whoa

http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=931&highlight=whoa

info and tracklistings.

If people havent heard these then download, its strange hearing american people cheering for grime n dubstep.

the myspace: http://www.myspace.com/whoabee

[RISKY!]

SAFE 4 THAT whats_the_score? :D

[Demos]

...Answa Meeee :angry:....

nah theres some MCs too

[R.dot.Tubbs]

lol Skola, R Dot Tubbs, Cookie...does it make you feel better to say that stuff? cuz at the end of the day what your saying is waste...isnt acheiving anything...isnt even an opinion worth listening to...therefore you are waste. that is all :D

later, are you bussin a ting with risky or suttin?

with your farmer accent

[SHOKK]

So, who has some great international (as in, not british) grime?

I have: swedish and brazilian, so far. Heard a norwegian grime tune once... What Norwegian one? Not much Norwegian Grime about. To this date I know about 1 Norwegian tune that genuinly sounds like Grime. (and it's a SICK tune too) I'd like to upload it or something so you people can hear, but that's bootlegging. Don't want to put it on Youtube either. It's called OnklP - Tørrokk anyways.
---
I'm pretty sure Max Peezay is the most succesful international Grime act.
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[Prometheus.]

Low my thread, leave the arguments in fine "you da fag", "no, you da fag!"
style for some other thread.

If you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all

[Prometheus.]

What Norwegian one?

I'm gonna put something on Youtube very soon.

can't remember, really..heard it at a grime jam thing here in stockholm.

grymt med mera skandinavisk grime, behövs.

[SHOKK]

Was probably OnklP. I don't think anyone else who's ever spit on grime. Cool seeing Swedish people here.

Skandinavisk grime trengs definitivt. Nå!


It's the Scandinavian Grime Forum takeover. :D

[adidasgrandad]

speak in english please lads.... just plain rude lol

[SHOKK]

By the way Prometheus, Max Peezay wasn't really on Practice Hours you know. He freestyled for them, but it wasn't included on the DVD. You can see him standing beside Trim and bobbin his head though, lol.

[JoelBauta]

Dont know if i'd really want to call Max Peezay grime. Beats are made by a techno producer, and Max Peezay was a bounce rapper to begin with, hence the fast style. Do you guys call it grime?

[Technician]

im from holland and i make grime and dj grime theres a next guy in holland aswell called dj gomez hes in black ops.. currently hes makin tunes with d-double....

hey!

[adidasgrandad]

im from holland and i make grime and dj grime theres a next guy in holland aswell called dj gomez hes in black ops.. currently hes makin tunes with d-double....

hey!

nice. they should do more raves outside of the country other than napa.

[Technician]

nice. they should do more raves outside of the country other than napa.


bruv there is this satrday im hookin up with spyro hes comin holland then 14th march gonna hook up with joker then i think its the 28th of march rinse fm night in amsterdam with some rinse fm djs so yh holland is kinda movin lol

[adidasgrandad]

bruv there is this satrday im hookin up with spyro hes comin holland then 14th march gonna hook up with joker then i think its the 28th of march rinse fm night in amsterdam with some rinse fm djs so yh holland is kinda movin lol

thats good. is grime liked in areas like holland then?

[Technician]

thats good. is grime liked in areas like holland then?

yh lately it is i remember last month ive put a promo mix of vocals on this dutch site it got 1300 plays in 3days and people wanted 2 know where they could hear more of it so i passed on the myspaces of certain guys who im safe with and as for march i got 3 bookings so yh its a gd look at this moment in time btw i think theres much more money 2 be made for grime artists outside of the uk because from what ive been told and see is that most artists dont move wider then the uk they should expand thats what i do for certain artists in the scene they giv me music so i can show it 2 the people over here . .

[Grimes]

for real , EU movements

[JACK]

in germany deres alot of djs who do sets based mostly on grime, but dere not dat big except of like 3 or 4 of dem who run dis scene

alot of former dubsteppers and trip hop heads are into grime here

[adidasgrandad]

looks like theres a market for grime in europe which people like wiley need to start tapping into because where he goes, others follow

[kossa]

i think the artists should concentrate on pushing the scene in england, europe and further east fuck america

[Technician]

looks like theres a market for grime in europe which people like wiley need to start tapping into because where he goes, others follow

boy wiley flopped in holland lol i met him when he was doin the playtime is over tour he couldnt handle the dutch weed did 3 tunes forgot his bars it was a par that night . . every dutch grime fan in holland lost their ratings that actual night lol

[adidasgrandad]

boy wiley flopped in holland lol i met him when he was doin the playtime is over tour he couldnt handle the dutch weed did 3 tunes forgot his bars it was a par that night . . every dutch grime fan in holland lost their ratings that actual night lol

yeah but the fact that he went over there could mean that more people will take that route to get their music heard as well.
still though i thought he was just being shit when i saw the youtube clips lol

[Standard]

boy wiley flopped in holland lol i met him when he was doin the playtime is over tour he couldnt handle the dutch weed did 3 tunes forgot his bars it was a par that night . . every dutch grime fan in holland lost their ratings that actual night lol

That is waste on Will's part.

[Sick Boy]

I live in Toronto, and these guys are moving:
www.myspace.com/theukc

They do a lot of radio and raves around here, and are just getting into recording some material now - with some well known producers. I think you can DL archives of their radio show from the myspace.

[Sick Boy]

i think the artists should concentrate on pushing the scene in england, europe and further east fuck america

Yes. Americans are lost. They can't even understand what we're saying half the time.

[RAISED BY WOLVES]

I wouldn't go so far as to say "fuck America" on the whole, but then again...I live here.

The main problem in the states is fickle fans. Fools who picked up on grime in 2 double O four when Run the Road dropped on Vice records. As I said on Dissensus, back then, you could go to some houseparty at a spot in Williamsburg (I'm gonna go ahead and guess that's like the equivalent of Shoreditch and certain hipped out parts of the east end from what my UK heads tell me) and hear Tinchy, or treddin' on thin ice, or what have you. Once The Fader and Vice magazine stopped covering it and moved on to Ghettotech, or Baltimore club, or whatever the fuck, people didn't check for it any more. Me, I still by every release I can that hits shops stateside, and any time an artist comes through, I'm there to support. But there's no street level fan base here. I watched Will and rolldeep play to a crowd of kids from the LES at a free show in the park. He was all "big up the white tee massive" which was hilarious, but people weren't really on it like that. They were all just like: "where the fuck is Juelz Santana!" and after he came out and rocked like three joints that had the park going crazy, the whole crowd dissapeared, and I saw an anxious Kano backstage with Ghetts looking shook (or maybe just dissapointed) to play to a handful of backpackers.

Moral of the story: Don't give up on the states, but understand that the majority of the fanbase in the cities that have one (SF, NY, CHItown) is not interested in how the genre progresses, but more in the moment when it was a new and exciting flash in the pan unlike anything they'd heard before. Of course there are exceptions, but they're few and far between.

Big up all my true fans stateside though, even if you spend more time on your lappy then out in the street.

One last thing....Americans can produce, but I don't want to hear one of my own try hop on mic EVER.

That's all, Apologies for the long winded post, just trying to shed a bit of light...

[Danny Trejo]

Just found this
http://www.soulchampion.com

Loads of American grime, garage, dubstep.

[Prometheus.]

Just found this
http://www.soulchampion.com

Loads of American grime, garage, dubstep.

WOW.
Safe, fam.
Will DEF. check this out when I'm not at work.

sunday work sessions - its a lot.

[TRU_G]

boy wiley flopped in holland lol i met him when he was doin the playtime is over tour he couldnt handle the dutch weed did 3 tunes forgot his bars it was a par that night . . every dutch grime fan in holland lost their ratings that actual night lol

Haha funny shit

It was inevitable though, when brits go Holland all they want to do is smoke weed

[4737]

On a semi-related note...

Just been asked to do another 2 dates in San Francisco (so now that's 2 clubs and a festival). Big up the US dubstep/grime mandem!

t.