All-star Midlands/Up North Set

[Sam]

Serious replys only please..

Who would people like to see on a set, MCs only being from Midlands/Up North (Manchester etc)?

Something similar to how Stay Fresh was..

[grime2008]

how bouts doogz or what ever happended to WW.DOT or aka graveyard crew?? smokey is heavy ant heard him in nearly 2years now

[whats_the_score?]

Hypes and macca T, dunno if he is still moving in the mids think he is in London now.

[Sam]

Anybody else?

99% chance Hypes will be down..

[whats_the_score?]

Anybody else?

99% chance Hypes will be down..

BIG!

[Sam]

Come on people I need names lol.. All the Stay Fresh lovers who wanted a part 2, this is YOUR TIME..

[whats_the_score?]

Come on people I need names lol.. All the Stay Fresh lovers who wanted a part 2, this is YOUR TIME..

It's a saturday afternoon lol give it time!

[Demos]

wariko

[Sam]

Can add Flex, Savage & Vader?

[GrimePays]

*grabs a shovel and starts skankin in overalls and welingtons

[whats_the_score?]

Can add Flex, Savage & Vader?

Yeah do it!

[Omni]

Jah digga, Wrigley, Liquid, Shifty, OG, MG, Savage, Flex, Hypes, Vader, Wariko, 2 tone, Macca T, Stormar, Loose Talent. Set would be live with that lineup :D Also try and get Ill Merk from Northants, he's part of S.R.E and sick spitter.

[Sam]

Jah Digga
Wariko
Savage
Flex
Hypes
Shifty
Vader
Loose Talent (LJ & Tornado)
Stormar
Badness

Is what im looking to achieve..

[Sam]

Ill Murk, Badness, Flex CONFIRMED..

[adidasgrandad]

badness, flex, vader, wrigley, shifty, golfinger, stormar, wariko

[Nine Bar]

vader
flex
shizzle
wariko
smokey
deadly
badness

all of dem now

thankyou

[screwface]

i beg u get devilman lol

[Sam]

Shizzle?

Lol..

NODB + Higherstakes = Impossible

So Deadly an Flex on a set cant happen as much as i'd like it to.

And same goes for Devilman, nobody likes him.

[adidasgrandad]

this set looks sick. you should organise a seperate clash lol why dont they like eachother anyway?devilmans a bit of a prick. always dissin racially

[screwface]

jus put devilman on a set den and dash all the rest LOOOOL nah badness will go on a set with devilman still cuz they kool

[Nine Bar]

Shizzle?

Lol..

NODB + Higherstakes = Impossible

So Deadly an Flex on a set cant happen as much as i'd like it to.

And same goes for Devilman, nobody likes him.

meant sizzla not shizzle lol

vader, deadly, wariko, stormz, badness

den ne1 else

[adidasgrandad]

any idea when this is gonna happen?

[Eric Cantona]

Ask Shifty & Wrigley to get onit, Im sure they will be up for it

Gutta 2 Gutta was too much

[Omni]

This looks like its gonna be fucking huge. Who you thinking of DJ'ing or a b2b thing. I reckon Blizzard and Snowman are sick DJ's, espeically their selection, always propa grimey beats. Big up for this Sam!

And Alex mate, can you up that Gutta 2 Gutta set please?

Also if no-ones heard Ill Merk before hes this spitter from Northants that my mate knows.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfRiz9gIF04
Quick little vid of him their. Guys big though trust.

[Eric Cantona]

Yeh ill upload it tomorrow

[adidasgrandad]

safe alex. get goldfinger from virus syndicate on it. the guys sick

[Sam]

any idea when this is gonna happen?

Not gonna say anything but you'l know when its been done.

As for Shifty, can't get hold of him gonna try ringing tomorrow.

[adidasgrandad]

get goldfinger lol

[Eric Cantona]

Ask him through myspace

[adidasgrandad]

Ask him through myspace

and ask goldfinger lol www.myspace.com/goldfingermc

[Breathe Beats]

NG Cartel bruv

[whats_the_score?]

If you can get Hypes get Hurikane.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

sleeka and v don

[Eric Cantona]

If you can get Hypes get Hurikane.



Allow the set ruiners lol

Gutta 2 Gutta Part. 2

http://rapidshare.com/files/92574641/Gutta_2_Gutta_Pt._2.mp3

[adidasgrandad]

your a diamond alex

[djplasma]

SAM.. get p.r.e from mdk on it he's fucked :)

[CSWV]

Get BIGZ from stakes on there and ask them man about SKIPPZ,both a lot better than most mc's mentioned in this thread.
Wariko Vader & Hypes are a must too.

[Nine Bar]

sleeka and fire don azwell

[Sam]

As much as I rate alot of MCs, due to.. 'difficulties'.. its hard to have certain people on sets with other certain people.

Word On Road / Sidewinder Raw Entertainment presents Britains Finest Volume 1:

Flex, Savage, Shifty, Hypes, LJ, Tornado, Ill murk, Vader <- that is the CONFIRMED line up SO FAR.. looking to add Wariko an Jah Digga and then it should be finalised.

[adidasgrandad]

along with goldfinger :)
should do birmz v manchester set
is this set going to be free?

[Eric Cantona]

Need to get Wrigley on there still

Cant call it britains finest either becasue they already did that, vol. 2?

[adidasgrandad]

yeah wrigleys sick. didnt like him at first but his energy grows on ya

[Aych]

if it works...this could be sick

[Sam]

Yes it'l be free, for download and as part of the next Sidewinder pack hopefully, need to chat to Spruce.

As for Manchester vs Brum, I swear Vaders bringing Gutta 2 Gutta back soon..

[Eric Cantona]

Yes it'l be free, for download and as part of the next Sidewinder pack hopefully, need to chat to Spruce.

As for Manchester vs Brum, I swear Vaders bringing Gutta 2 Gutta back soon..

Tell him to upload vol. 1, Sounds big though

[Sam]

My bad i meant to put Volume 2 lol..

But ye, whether other people will roll with Hypes & Shift is a diff story.

Ill get ALL the Gutta 2 Guttas off V asap.

Im jus trying to sort the DJ for the set anyhows

[adidasgrandad]

blizzard. his selections big and he would be representative.
free...and part of the sidewinder pack?

[screwface]

Fire don

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

big mikee

[adidasgrandad]

big mikee

...plays bassline on his grime show...

[Sam]

blizzard. his selections big and he would be representative.
free...and part of the sidewinder pack?

Part of a pack meaning, a freebie with a pack.. If you get me ?

Im looking Blizzard B2B with somebody, but due to other stuff Blizz might not be able to make it cos hes a busy man.

I guess we'l see

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

...plays bassline on his grime show...

par lol i haven't listened to one of his shows in over a year now lol he was big (no pun) before

[adidasgrandad]

par lol i haven't listened to one of his shows in over a year now lol he was big (no pun) before

yeah i actually bothered to stay up to listen to his silk city show and just heard bassline for an hour lol

[adidasgrandad]

Part of a pack meaning, a freebie with a pack.. If you get me ?

Im looking Blizzard B2B with somebody, but due to other stuff Blizz might not be able to make it cos hes a busy man.

I guess we'l see

ok that sounds like a good idea

[kossa]

you need to get virus syndicate on there

[natzta]

Me and Asher (no hype no homo)

[Demos]

:alot:

[natzta]

mic keeps cuttin out on this set...minor tho legal radio in sheffield its the 1st 2 sets at the top done earlier 2day 1 till 3..holdtite the rapid uploading crew professh bizznizz

big up dj cardiac

http://canstream.co.uk/sheffieldlive/index.php?cat=DroptheFunk,DroptheBass

feedback plz...all types of garage styles grime 4x4 old skool

[natzta]

ill find asher myspace wen i can be bothered

nuff surprised he wasnt mentioned

:itsapar:

[adidasgrandad]

wtf natzta?allow ruining the thread
like someone else said...get virus syndicate on there

[whats_the_score?]

Allow the set ruiners lol

Gutta 2 Gutta Part. 2

http://rapidshare.com/files/92574641/Gutta_2_Gutta_Pt._2.mp3


Never heard him on a set only ever heard him just spitting and thought he was ok.

Cheers for the link.

[natzta]

wtf natzta?allow ruining the thread
like someone else said...get virus syndicate on there

lol you are bit of a dick still...no rwd

2008 will see a lot of new artists comin thru..big up the names mentioned but when someone puts work in it will pay off...shit mc or no shit mc

big up mark one jsd nikki d n goldfinger for the 2005 set which we merked

ask notts dubstep heds...shatap

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

lol you are bit of a dick still...no rwd

2008 will see a lot of new artists comin thru..big up the names mentioned but when someone puts work in it will pay off...shit mc or no shit mc

big up mark one jsd nikki d n goldfinger for the 2005 set which we merked

ask notts dubstep heds...shatap

grow up:dozey:

[natzta]

grow up:dozey:

i didnt start the sending or never do i start the sendin

just showin people i can actually mc

allow gettin parred by neeks

[whats_the_score?]

mids and manc vs some london mc's would be intresting, maybe not wiley n ghetts etc but some others coming up who need the exposure like outta London mc's.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

i didnt start the sending or never do i start the sendin

just showin people i can actually mc

allow gettin parred by neeks

you ent parrin anyone fam

mr blobby can probably mc dont wanna hear it

and thats all im sayin

[natzta]

no further comments

allow the rwd vibe

big up hijimi

[whats_the_score?]

i didnt start the sending or never do i start the sendin

just showin people i can actually mc

allow gettin parred by neeks


you ent parrin anyone fam

mr blobby can probably mc dont wanna hear it

and thats all im sayin

Don't dead this thread by making me move it to random/beef room.

[natzta]

im cool with hijimi n the mods

NEVER on a war vibe when i come here

i try promote myself n my bredrin and guys are tellin me not to post..dont be daft

[whats_the_score?]

im cool with hijimi n the mods

NEVER on a war vibe when i come here

i try promote myself n my bredrin and guys are tellin me not to post..dont be daft

cool :cool2:

[Nine Bar]

cmon cmon we are all adults here

[Sam]

Allow arguing in the thread, if things go well then of course they'l be even more sets, with different MCs etc

Lets just hope things stay on track

[adidasgrandad]

nazta i just got the impression you were parring off the thread by promoting your own stuff. why not just make a new thread?
how am i a dick?when did i slew you?when have i slewed anyone? i like to think im quite a respectable user of this forum...

[Eric Cantona]

nazta i just got the impression you were parring off the thread by promoting your own stuff. why not just make a new thread?
how am i a dick?when did i slew you?when have i slewed anyone? i like to think im quite a respectable user of this forum...

lol, Guy got murked by Mr Wong's right hand man, allow him

[Demos]

loooool, if any arguing kicks off i'm locking this thread for a couple hours for things to cool off, allow ruining this thread

[natzta]

na allow the self promotional flex

i just put the set up so people cud hear me spit thats all

normal

allow the rwd vibes tho part 5

adidasgrandad..i apoligise but ive dun with the constant negative comments i get i dont diss no1 on any forum personally

but i must say midlands has a lot of undiscovered talent..stay locked

[natzta]

yeah dee

its blessed mate dont lock it

just let people be negative

again.. adidas..my par

[adidasgrandad]

na allow the self promotional flex

i just put the set up so people cud hear me spit thats all

normal

allow the rwd vibes tho part 5

adidasgrandad..i apoligise but ive dun with the constant negative comments i get i dont diss no1 on any forum personally

but i must say midlands has a lot of undiscovered talent..stay locked

alright cool lets leave it because this threads good.
i agree midlands has alot of talent. it just needs the platform to launch from. sets like this will help

[Sam]

I'm tryina get a radio show too.. its hard out here though!

[Eric Cantona]

What midlands grime shows are there with mc's doing sets

In manny only 1 really and its tonight

DJ Fusion - UnityRadio.Fm - 10-12 - Plays Bassline for 1st hour then does a grime set second hour, Problem is that Logan starts at 11 so no poiint advertising on here

[natzta]

kemet radio represents in nottingham

doesnt advertise as well as i think they could tho imo but i think djs have regular grime shows i swear blizzard goes on there

[Sam]

Kemet is doing alot right about now.

Im tryina sort somethin on legal radio in Leicester, but it seems to be a par.

Hold tite Blizz though hes grinding HARD

I might just go the Aza T route.. podcast business

[Nine Bar]

yh blizz it duin it styl

been duin it 4 yeeeeears

[Flawz]

@ Natzta..

Is Asher a bassline MC now, cuz I aint heard a grime tune since that Yea Lad ting. But I agree he would be liiiive on a set!!

[adidasgrandad]

silk city on saturdays
20:00 - 22:00 L Dubz
22:00 - 00:00 Big Mikee - Grime Time Show
00:00 - 02:00 Midlands Mafia

aint listened that much though
i think someone asked for grime shows out of london :s

[Eric Cantona]

lol safe

DJ Fusion is on now mixing grime, doing an mc set around 11 i been told

Www.UnityRadio.Fm - If your interested.

[natzta]

@ Natzta..

Is Asher a bassline MC now, cuz I aint heard a grime tune since that Yea Lad ting. But I agree he would be liiiive on a set!!

Asher mainly does bassline but for those that dont know hes in N.A.S.T.Y so he does grime aswell..blizzard says hes on 1 of his sidewinder raw cd sets..any1 got it?.. if so plz upload!!!

[Eric Cantona]

Asher mainly does bassline but for those that dont know hes in N.A.S.T.Y so he does grime aswell..blizzard says hes on 1 of his sidewinder raw cd sets..any1 got it?.. if so plz upload!!!

lol u little tramp, go and buy it

[natzta]

lol parred me nicely :itsalot:

[Flawz]

silk city on saturdays
20:00 - 22:00 L Dubz
22:00 - 00:00 Big Mikee - Grime Time Show
00:00 - 02:00 Midlands Mafia

aint listened that much though
i think someone asked for grime shows out of london :s

I used to listen to this every saturday night. Does it even happen anymore cuz the last time I tried to tune in Silk City it werent even working lol (Used to be so sick aswell)

[adidasgrandad]

I used to listen to this every saturday night. Does it even happen anymore cuz the last time I tried to tune in Silk City it werent even working lol (Used to be so sick aswell)

well when i listened last a few weeks ago l dubz was playing bassline and i was like 'fuck it' you know lol you can listen online as well

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

the grime time cd's were sick

[natzta]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ive just clocked that...big up l dubs i could have swore he said he aint on there no more

defo lockin in this sat..need to chat 2 that bruvva..very big dj

[Demos]

never knew u was a northerner adidas

[adidasgrandad]

never knew u was a northerner adidas

well im from london but yeah i move about

[Heckz]

outlaws

[xpress]

hypes, hurakane, flex, savage, vades, stormar..... and me lol

[xpress]

actualy and wrigz, o.g. shift, r.i.o

[Eric Cantona]

hahaha, My Ideal set would be

Venomous, Vader, Shifty, Wrigley, Hypes & R.I.O

That set would show levels

[CSWV]

outlaws
xpress could it down aswell still

[Sam]

The set happened today..

Line up was:

Flex
Vader
Ill Murk
MG
Savage
Bigz
Shifty
Hypes
Shotty
LJ
Tornado
Rezz G

Its gonna be sold though, ill sort some clips out and anybody who wants a copy then holla - ill do some over paypal if wanted.

[adidasgrandad]

line ups sick. hows it going to be sold?il buy one

[Sam]

Ive got hard copys of it - gonna have to get the cover printed up still, an over net it'l be a paypal thing.

I'd do digital download but people will just leak it after they purchase.

[adidasgrandad]

where could we get hard copies of it?
any idea when its available?

[Sam]

You can purchase hard copies from me, IF you've got paypal. Or ill be selling them in the streets, ill be in Liverpool in 2 weeks if that helps anybody at all

It should be in shops by next month, but for early guys you need to holla at me or anybody that was on the set

[Demos]

allow selling it, surely its more promotion for northern artist if it was a free download?

[adidasgrandad]

il buy it depending on how much your asking for?
what shops will it be in?

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

how much isit gonna be and how long till its in tempest?

[Sam]

Its gonna be like £5 in shops in a proper case reh reh reh .. On road in plastic wallet its a £3 thing with front cover.

As for Demos, just cos we're northern, don't mean we can't sell our music.. It'd only be free promotion to Londoners, we've got fan bases up here willing to purchase things we don't have to rely on south of the border

[Demos]

Its gonna be like £5 in shops in a proper case reh reh reh .. On road in plastic wallet its a £3 thing with front cover.

As for Demos, just cos we're northern, don't mean we can't sell our music.. It'd only be free promotion to Londoners, we've got fan bases up here willing to purchase things we don't have to rely on south of the border

fair enough i was just suggesting it would be good promotion for the ppl who haven't heard these MCs before.

[Sam]

I hear you definitely Demos, didn't mean to come across like a prick. For those who aint heard the MCs before, they should be willing to purchase for a small fee really an see what the hype is about.

[Demos]

kl, when i have some money i'll see if i can buy it

[adidasgrandad]

how long is the set?(i know...another question lol)

[Sam]

1 hour 15 mins

[adidasgrandad]

1 hour 15 mins

cool. who was the dj?

[Sam]

Blizzard, no wheel-ups just straight mixing, so theres no bias hype etc etc

[Nine Bar]

vader said 2 me hes gettin me a free copy

and said it wont b in temptest

[Sam]

Thats kool for you then really lol, but I doubt V wants to give everybody a free copy..

It might be in tempest, Flex is sorting that out

[whats_the_score?]

Thats kool for you then really lol, but I doubt V wants to give everybody a free copy..

It might be in tempest, Flex is sorting that out

I'm in Brum in a couple of weeks, so if its about i'll cop.

[Omni]

Line-up is huge. I will buy it but I haven't got a Paypal account and live nowhere near Liverpool. Is it gonna be on online shops like avalance music hut, ukrs and others or just in street stores like rhythm division?

[Sam]

Omni where bouts are you from?

An what day you in Brum WTS, cos I might be down there.

As for Avalanche, UKRS etc. I duno, i'll get info about that ASAP!

[whats_the_score?]

Omni where bouts are you from?

An what day you in Brum WTS, cos I might be down there.

As for Avalanche, UKRS etc. I duno, i'll get info about that ASAP!

12th and the 13th mate.

[Omni]

I'm from Northampton. If you get some copies to Ill Murk to sell I could probably cop one from him init but I don't really know the lad.

[Sam]

12th and the 13th mate.

I'll be in Brum on the 13th, if i'm in town i'll link you

Omni - Murk will be shotting it still so contact him via MySpace!

[whats_the_score?]

I'll be in Brum on the 13th, if i'm in town i'll link you

Omni - Murk will be shotting it still so contact him via MySpace!

ok mate cool.

[adidasgrandad]

il buy a copy from tempest when i go birmingham with the missus or the mates or something.
dj blizzards selection is sick

[Sam]

kMARxYk1f8U

A little preview for you all..

[whats_the_score?]

Yep I'll cop, Blizzards selection sounds sick again.

[Demos]

yeah looks good still

[Eric Cantona]

Holy shit, Big up Sam, This looks big

Shifty & Vader are too much

[Hij]

Sam holla at me on msn.

Im putting in a proper 3 hour shift right now.

[adidasgrandad]

selection did sound sick

[Sam]

Anybody who wants a copy please holla at me via PM, i've got about 50 on me right now

[Gibbo]

Not into Torando. Rezz G is big though. Nice to see some Leicester on there though.

[Eric Cantona]

PM'd you.

[adidasgrandad]

how can i buy one. i want one

[[Mr_SnoWman]]

Biggup blizzard playin

mr snowman - koyal for vader on that video!


;)

[Sam]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Britains-Finest-Grime-Set_W0QQitemZ180221161572QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1049QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[R.dot.Tubbs]

dem beats in dat clip were fire

[Eric Cantona]

i go to pay and it says

Postage and packaging: https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif Please enter a valid postage and handling cost.

[Sam]

i go to pay and it says

Postage and packaging: https://securepics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif Please enter a valid postage and handling cost.

:S

[Omni]

Gonna cop my copy tomorrow! Big up for this!

[adidasgrandad]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Britains-Finest-Grime-Set_W0QQitemZ180221161572QQihZ008QQcategoryZ1049QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

safe!! il get my mum to buy me one with her account lol

[Gibbo]

Looks mint, might purcahse for a fiver. Is it just one mix, or are the tracks seperated?

[Hij]

Big its out.

Time for a front page feature then.

Bloggers your time.

Its a good set, show support to the northern guys.

[Gibbo]

u puttin it in 2funky?

has blizzard got a myspace?

[adidasgrandad]

iv just bought this. make sure tornado sends it out as soon as possible please :)

[Sam]

Adidas it'l be sent out tomorrow famo i'll make sure!

Whoever paid yday, your copy was sent today.

Gibbo, a few might be in 2funky but if not i am in town always so jus holla

[adidasgrandad]

Adidas it'l be sent out tomorrow famo i'll make sure!

Whoever paid yday, your copy was sent today.

Gibbo, a few might be in 2funky but if not i am in town always so jus holla

alright cheers mate. looking forward to this

[Omni]

Listening to this now. Came this morning. Fucking huge!! Selection is too much and spitting is madness.

[adidasgrandad]

really really good set. beat selection is entertaining throughout. bassy, grimey instrumentals all the way through.
basically a midlands/north Fuck radio

someone tell me whose bars these are..." i dont believe what you say/ what you writ is fake/ its fiction mate/ addictions lame/ you've got a knife?..oh...iv got a kitchen blade touche "
the delivery of those bars is fucked
flex smacks it although the bigger names on this dont spit enough

[Sam]

Adidas, thats my boy LJ still...

www.myspace.com/loosetalent <- check the MySpace

Glad people are liking this

[Eric Cantona]

Just payed, sorry for delay.

[Sam]

No worries Alex, your copy will be posted out tomorrow

[adidasgrandad]

Adidas, thats my boy LJ still...

www.myspace.com/loosetalent <- check the MySpace

Glad people are liking this

safe. iv reloaded them bars bout 5 times

[Eric Cantona]

Hypes on this set >>>>>

[Eric Cantona]

Actually take that back, When shotty comes in >>>>>>

[S.K.I.T.Z Beatz]

there definitly needs to be more sets

there jus needs to be a UK GRIME set in general, not jus london

cah man like wariko r top 5 in my eyes

[Storma OGs]

there definitly needs to be more sets

there jus needs to be a UK GRIME set in general, not jus london

cah man like wariko r top 5 in my eyes



Dun Kno Wariko Is Fucked

[adidasgrandad]

wariko b2b ghetto ......*dreams*

[Anonymous]

Wariko Is Sick. I Dont Really Rate Any Other Man From Outside London Tho Still.

[Omni]

I don't reckon Wariko is the best outta London still. Sometimes I think "what the fuck is he on about" when he spits but he has some sick deep bars too.

[adidasgrandad]

"keep your head high so the snakes dont get to bite your face"
i reckon in terms of actual bars hes number one outter london but in terms of flow there are better although his flow is quite versatile.

[Omni]

"Don't cry for me when I die; It's better you mourn when I'm born,
Cus the life I'm living is more filthy than a program with porn."

WHEEL!!

[adidasgrandad]

that whole song was fucked

[Gibbo]

MNT used to be good, all this bassline bollocks he's doing now is shit though.

[RD-Nottz]

Jah Digga, Wariko, Vadar , Vadar Did 1 sick aceppela last nyt at 1 party ting i went

[MedellinManDem]

All out of London grime is swag and I've heard it all for years...Kmt about no-one likes Devilman. D-e-velopment is better than all of Brum on a set from what I've heard.

Back in the day though, Vader, Brasko, Zola >>>>>>>>

[adidasgrandad]

All out of London grime is swag and I've heard it all for years...Kmt about no-one likes Devilman. D-e-velopment is better than all of Brum on a set from what I've heard.

Back in the day though, Vader, Brasko, Zola >>>>>>>>

you aint heard this set then?

[D-Structo]

deres a lot of good out of london mc's

[ZDOT]

vader
shifty
wariko
menace...

[Eric Cantona]

Gutta 2 Gutta Part. 2

http://rapidshare.com/files/92574641/Gutta_2_Gutta_Pt._2.mp3

Thought id up little bit of footage from this set i had on my computer

gc2LdkptXB4

Wrigley, Hypes, Vader & Shifty.

It's gotta be 2006 or early 2007 now.