NOVATION REMOTE 25 SL COMPACT? + other starter questions

[Randy]

would this be any good as my first production tool? or is there a better one for around £200.

need to get reason 4 as well and a decent pc/mac for around £600 (for the computer). does anyone know the best one for under that price and where to get it from?

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR235373

also instead of buying monitors can i get some decent headphones that will do the job just as good?

just bought a couple of music tech mags as guidance, ones specially for reason. are there any other must haves for a starter producer?

[L1ONE]

ermm, i wouldnt spend on that.

get a normal midi keyboard, plug into reason, use reason inbuilt sounds, and download keyboard Wavs, or reason pack things.

download reason 4 that will save some money aswell.

£600 will get u a v.good computer. jst get good soundcard aswell and some monitor speakers.

[S.Dubz]

Save some money and get one like this:http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop/flypage/product_id/21213

This would be perfect if your starting out and would have more sound range with the more keys it's got.

[Randy]

the auto mapping function on it looks good tho. and is there need for al the other buttons

['nuum general]

I agree you probably don't need all the functions of the more expensive one

this one also gets good reviews: http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product.asp?id=5023

if you just want pads and a few knobs & sliders then get an akai MPD 24

[Randy]

if i bought an imac and an axiom what else would i need?

[feasible_weasel]

if i bought an imac and an axiom what else would i need?

Start off with a mac mini :D
because ur gonna need a usb soundcard
yeh defo get some headphones if you cant afford £150 monitors
just get a axiom
reason 4
download audacity (free)
and acid xpress 5.0 (which is free from sony) so if u wanna have a sample based environment, you can move stuff around in it..

[feasible_weasel]

Gimme your exact budget :)

[Randy]

hoping after xmas to have around £800, but i dont really want to spend all of it if i dont have to. but each month that amount can go up by £150

[feasible_weasel]

hoping after xmas to have around £800, but i dont really want to spend all of it if i dont have to. but each month that amount can go up by £150

Truthfully from somebodys who spend 2-3k+ on buying stuff,then using it,then getting more stuff.
keep it really simple...
If this machine your getting is something that you want to keep for a long time,and updgrade now and again..
then get a £400 pc,and upgrade as you go along.
You can just an axiom keyboard or a standard m-audio keyboard
i would personally get as many keys as you can for as less as you can...
Reason 4 is def a great package
but also get something that you can rewire too it, like a daw like fl studio or cubase...
If ur feeling rich then get a macbook,mini,imac and download the programs and get a cheap midi keyboard
If u want to get a nice laptop to make music on (i use my old £400 laptop on reason, thats worth £300, and i can use reason with no problem)

ide personally get a pc if your on a budget, at least quardcore amd or intel...
or even a nice laptop, that will be really handy and powerful
both can be in the £400-500 range.
and settle for a << £100 keyboard

[Randy]

ok cheers for the advice. hopefully the senile grandparents give me hundreds of pounds. i also forgot i get a student loan at some point in jan too which will contribute another £200 or so. will keep my options open till jan then decide.

you know and good sites for pcs/macs and reviews of midi controllers/keybds?

[Demos]

ok cheers for the advice. hopefully the senile grandparents give me hundreds of pounds. i also forgot i get a student loan at some point in jan too which will contribute another £200 or so. will keep my options open till jan then decide.

you know and good sites for pcs/macs and reviews of midi controllers/keybds?

bought my mac thought the apple site, with student discount

[Randy]

lovely, how much do you get off?

[feasible_weasel]

ok cheers for the advice. hopefully the senile grandparents give me hundreds of pounds. i also forgot i get a student loan at some point in jan too which will contribute another £200 or so. will keep my options open till jan then decide.

you know and good sites for pcs/macs and reviews of midi controllers/keybds?

good sites for pcs/macs are currys,pc world,comet,ebuyer
keyboard reviews
most people buy their keyboards from places like: Dolphin music,DV247,Inta Audio. and they have the option to leave reviews by people.
really depends on your budget at the end of the day.....

when u get a final budget, then im sure somebody will advise you on here..
you really have make good use of google...

[feasible_weasel]

demos macbook :)
now £799.99 with more harddrive and cpu
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5080386/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice%2C+PCs+and+phones%7C101 98997/c_2/2%7Ccat_10198997%7CComputers+and+laptops%7C1019916 6.htm

[L1ONE]

good sites for pcs/macs are currys,pc world,comet,ebuyer
keyboard reviews
most people buy their keyboards from places like: Dolphin music,DV247,Inta Audio. and they have the option to leave reviews by people.
really depends on your budget at the end of the day.....

when u get a final budget, then im sure somebody will advise you on here..
you really have make good use of google...
pc world isint a good place for PCs. 1. they know nothing about PCs if you go to the store 2. there overpriced.

go to ebuyer to get your pc. or get someone to build it for you. If you want get someone to get mac compatible hardware so you can install mac os x and windows on the same pc, that way you can see what you prefer or use both

['nuum general]

i'd get a pc from an independant store, then you know you're getting good components that will last

[feasible_weasel]

pc world isint a good place for PCs. 1. they know nothing about PCs if you go to the store 2. there overpriced.

go to ebuyer to get your pc. or get someone to build it for you. If you want get someone to get mac compatible hardware so you can install mac os x and windows on the same pc, that way you can see what you prefer or use both

i was suggesting pc world,as some of the stuff is ok for the price and its high street, you should see argos and stores like that lol

Agreed about the mac compatible pc, i mean you can get a blueray laptop with 3 gig of ram and and decent graphics card for £500
but apple sell you a normal dvd drive with those awful integrated graphics card for £800 with less ram..hmmm

[Randy]

so whats the minimum spec needed for a computer used for music production.

[L1ONE]

so whats the minimum spec needed for a computer used for music production.

lots of variables.

wer r u from, ask sum1 to build u a pc. tell them to giv u a price and specs of wot they gna put in der, n i tell u if good deal.

[feasible_weasel]

so whats the minimum spec needed for a computer used for music production.
i would say, bearing in mind that you will need this machine for the later versions
dual core (laptop) Quadcore or dual core for pc (quadcore will make it more future proof) 2ghz
2-4 gb ram
200gb harddrive (suggesting you upgrade it to a 7200rpm drive, when u have the money)
graphics inbuilt would have to be a HD3200 or a Nvdia 8400, just for the fact that new graphics interfaces and visual stuff come along and ur fucked with a integrated x3100 lol

[Randy]

think i'll go for a pc and try running mac os on it to see how that goes, can just upgrade it then as and when. and get an axiom.

[feasible_weasel]

think i'll go for a pc and try running mac os on it to see how that goes, can just upgrade it then as and when. and get an axiom.
sounds good :D if you had a grand+ ide def reccomend getting one of dem new macbooks as they are lovely laptops.
but on a budgets if defo for pcs

[Demos]

lovely, how much do you get off?

not sure but ended up paying just under £1000 all together.

[Demos]

demos macbook :)
now £799.99 with more harddrive and cpu
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5080386/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7COffice%2C+PCs+and+phones%7C101 98997/c_2/2%7Ccat_10198997%7CComputers+and+laptops%7C1019916 6.htm

lol lifes a bitch thats pretty much the same specs as mine

[Randy]

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5080458/c_1/1|category_root|Office%2C+PCs+and+phones|10198997/c_2/2|cat_10198997|Computers+and+laptops|10199166/c_3/3|cat_10199166|Desktop+computers|10199177.htm

this seems good

[feasible_weasel]

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5080458/c_1/1|category_root|Office%2C+PCs+and+phones|10198997/c_2/2|cat_10198997|Computers+and+laptops|10199166/c_3/3|cat_10199166|Desktop+computers|10199177.htm

this seems good

:D
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151912
4gb ram
spend the extra 100 saved on a powerful graphics card or get that later on and get a midi keyboard instead

[Randy]

is there any reason why i shouldn't get one of these?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151911

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151912

[feasible_weasel]

is there any reason why i shouldn't get one of these?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151911

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151912
both alright :D
This one is perfect IMO and its a brand
The £499.99 one
includes blueray and a 7200rpm drive (that drive speed is important) also the graphics card is alot better than the other pcs mentioned before
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/inspndt_530_headless_rec?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs

[Randy]

only a month till xmas when i'll have money. will see what sales pop up in Jan as there may be a bargain floating around!

[feasible_weasel]

only a month till xmas when i'll have money. will see what sales pop up in Jan as there may be a bargain floating around!

indeed :D