I'm sorry but, when did Skepta turn so shit?

[Llelo]

Man used to go nuts for them greazy bars in Meridian, and it's like he's gradually got worse and worse. He used to outshine Big H, Pablo, Bossman and Pres T, now i wouldn't say he was better or less basic than any of them (maybe pres t).

I know he don't spit road bars no more, i don't have a problem with that (even though thats what he was best at) but he's got so basic and his delivery is shit as well. he's got no aggression any more and he sounds lazy on the mic, like he wrote his bars in 10 minutes, which he proably did to be honest, cos i knonw tahts how long it would take me to write that shit he spits nowdays.

its like he slowly changed, and then today i just realised how bad he is. if i put on a recent skepta tune like King Of Grime and it was by a guy i'd never heard before i'd think he was any swag/average mc. A year and a half ago Skepta was in every man's top 5 easy, these days he don't even make my top 10 mc's to be honest.

yeh rant over, sorry bout the essay, had to get some tings off my chest (no homo). discuss.

[Quality Control]

since he started recording for his whack album

[Joe]

hes jus trying 2 b more mainstream

[Demos]

his album was a par

[Flawz]

i agree with everything you say. he gets no ratings anymore (n)

[Hij]

JME has sounded a lot like that recently as well, even from before he went commercial anyway for myspace- the lead track from his album if that youtube video is correct is honestly rubbish.

Skeptas video about money on youtube as well.

And JME throwing 20 quids away like it was nothing over a hip hop beat wearing a boy better know T. All the t shirt bars...

Skepta still sounded quite hype when he jumped on the Wiley beat on Movement Documentary but I agree its not there as much anymore- but he still has it in him. I remember when I used to lock to Manic FM and he'd go there a lot and spit on his ones and spray for ages, even though quite a few bars were the same, that was better imo.

[Llelo]

hes jus trying 2 b more mainstream

lol at the typo in your username. pissed.

and like i said, i understand he's toned down his lyrics, its not an excuse for his weak delivery, basic bars, basic rhymes and rhyme patterns.

i dunno how old u are, but if u listened to him a few years ago and to songs like Come On Man and even later ones like Fuckin Widda Team you see how much he's changed AND I DONT MEAN IN CONTENT.

[Alias?]

Skepta is the most over rated MC in the Uk right now, If i hear another bar about Tshirt P i swear Im gonna kill a man.
Flow = Basic
Content = Boring

Hes just on a hype but at the rate hes not showin up at shows that will die out quick.
What I still dont get is how he could make In Da Corner and not realise the rest of his album sounds fucking wack next to it. My housemates dont even like grime (so surely should like the more "commercial" sound) and even them man know In Da Corner is Showa and the rest is gash.

[Hij]

his album was a par

To be fair, I defended it when I first heard it a lot, me and Carter had forum war over that album lol, but Ive just searched Skepta in Itunes and loads of the tunes with more plays were even on the album. Stupid, Fucking Widda Team, Fucking Widda Team Remix.

Only greatest hits is up there at the moment.

LLelo: I must have missed Come on Man, where can I find that?

[Llelo]

To be fair, I defended it when I first heard it a lot, me and Carter had forum war over that album lol, but Ive just searched Skepta in Itunes and loads of the tunes with more plays were even on the album. Stupid, Fucking Widda Team, Fucking Widda Team Remix.

Only greatest hits is up there at the moment.

LLelo: I must have missed Come on Man, where can I find that?

dunno its from like 2005 ws quite big at the time

ill up it if i can find it, its from when he was still a road man

'i buss a murder case, feds gave man a injunction
now these pricks think im on witness protection"

any loose talk, ill soak your white T
i dont care, ill slap your H.N.I.C".

"see us in the club we got at least 3 straps
one rule - dont dance, dont even lean back"

then 3 years later he's on westwood skanking to H's bars...shits disgusting

[Alias?]

To be fair, I defended it when I first heard it a lot, me and Carter had forum war over that album lol, but Ive just searched Skepta in Itunes and loads of the tunes with more plays were even on the album.
What could you possibly have liked about it? Duppy - had it on 12 forever by that point and In Da Corner were the only tunes on it!

[Hij]

dunno its from like 2005 ws quite big at the time

ill up it if i can find it, its from when he was still a road man

'i buss a murder case, feds gave man a injunction
now these pricks think im on witness protection"

any loose talk, ill soak your white T
i dont care, ill slap your H.N.I.C".

"see us in the club we got at least 3 straps
one rule - dont dance, dont even lean back"

then 3 years later he's on westwood skanking to H's bars...shits disgusting

Safe must have totally dodged that one, unless ive heard it on radio but never downloaded it, cant say i recognise it, safe if you can upload it.

[TRU_G]

H used to ghostwrite for him back in them days I swear

[Llelo]

H used to ghostwrite for him back in them days I swear

someone else told me this still

i dont think all his bars though

i think some of the earlier ones like the "cutting scores in the lobby" and them ones

[adidasgrandad]

there is something different about him. was listening to a tune from few years ago (like 05 or something) the other day and just clocked how his bars seemed so much more powerful back then.

[Llelo]

hijimi this is that skepta track

it is kinda old though still, might be from before u was following grime cos i think this only got played on a few north london stations like axe and heat and deja. maybe i cant even remember too tuff really.

has got some killer bars in it: "i dont wear NYs i dont rep New York/nah man i man live at 54, Meridian Walk" used to wheel that on the tape.

edit lol forgot to put the link in

http://www.sendspace.com/file/egsdg2

[4737]

I concur. He's lost it.

t.

[Llelo]

I concur. He's lost it.

t.

safe is this taz?

if it is i'm thinknig that post might be sarcastic? but maybe not?

big up on that vinyl release though still.

[Hij]

Safe for that Llelo, we're turning it into a remembrance thread lol.

'Skepta, he was a good spitter...'

[Young Spray]

It's True.

[Hij]

Yeah this is big, mixdown isn't all that, but most of my favourite tunes from ages ago are like that. *puts it on the phone for tomorrow*

[G.K.]

Safe must have totally dodged that one, unless ive heard it on radio but never downloaded it, cant say i recognise it, safe if you can upload it.

Those bars are on "Lying to you fans" big tune.

It was still there on parts of Greatest Hits. Someone needs to stab skepta a few times. that should bring him back to the road guy and if it don't then hope he dies and they bring out an album of all his old unreleased stuff. na jokes. stop the violence.

[Danny Trejo]

Microphone Champion needs to be gutter to redeem himself really. Agree with everything posted here,

[4737]

safe is this taz?

if it is i'm thinknig that post might be sarcastic? but maybe not?

big up on that vinyl release though still.

Nah, it's not sarcasm unfortunately. And yes, it's me.

t.

[Odotkae]

If Hes The King Of Grime Then PSHHH!

Even Doe Fukkin Wid Da Team Is Overly Sho!

[Channel_E-D]

I know the answer to this question. It's ever since he started listening to the forums.

"Ahh why does he come with the same bars he rinses them off tooo much he needs to start writing bars daily"

Out goes the quality of the lyrics, and in comes the quantity. Skepta has bare bars now.

[4737]

bare shit bars about the same waste topics.

t.

[R-Style]

skepta rinses the same bars way 2

the last...2...3 times hes bin on westwood hes practically spat the same bars but jus in different order

[Jay05]

Yeah saddens me

"turn your white tee into a japanese flag

original t shirt bar

[MedellinManDem]

Skepta and JME are swag now, but they're making the most money out of the scene...

There it is kids...if you wanna be rich, be shit!

[Alias?]

Skepta has bare bars now.
How does Skepta have bare bars now?
Everytime I hear him he rinses the same swag tings.
Compared to a real MC (DG or Ghetts) who have some fresh bars pretty much everytime I hear em on a set

[S.Man]

This is what gets me. Everyone slates him, which is fair cor he is poor. But ppl still wanna try n say he beat Ghetto in the clash on Kiss?

To me, he has always had basic bars. Theres never any deep metaphors or wordplay. They were jus rave bars. N now he tryna make some P he has to water them down more for the mainstream.

[Young Spray]

This is what gets me. Everyone slates him, which is fair cor he is poor. But ppl still wanna try n say he beat Ghetto in the clash on Kiss?

To me, he has always had basic bars. Theres never any deep metaphors or wordplay

THE TRUTH

[Eric Cantona]

Skepta's Rave bars >>>>>> Ghetto telling me his life story on Merlin beats







Anyway, I do think Skepta recently has gone bit down hill but i still think he's better then most mc's in grime, He needs better bars though, More energy bars, When i was listening to him on 1Xtra yesterday he was too basic sounding

[D-Structo]

Skepta is good for what he's meant for.

He's a rave mc and makes hype beats for raves and has dem rave bars... people expecting complicated, sophisticated lyrics from him are expecting too much.

[Hiro Nakagrime]

Skepta's Rave bars >>>>>> Ghetto telling me his life story on Merlin beats







Anyway, I do think Skepta recently has gone bit down hill but i still think he's better then most mc's in grime, He needs better bars though, More energy bars, When i was listening to him on 1Xtra yesterday he was too basic sounding

lol you can never be too basic, the most controversial statement of the month: Tempa T>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>skeppy

[S.Man]

Still nuff with all this negativity.

Recently Skeptatron has been puttin the work in and is coming with new bars n new tunes, which i think are definately better than the tunes on greatest shits!

Bodybag, Mic King n Baseball Bat are sick tunes. Hopefully Skepta will have learnt from hios mistakes n Microphone Champion will be everything that Greatest Hits wasn't.

Still sayin this hopfully it wnt be the same case n we hear all the bars 3-4months before the CDs done n when its released it will be the same old bars.

[MouthOfTheSouth]

and even them man know In Da Corner is Showa and the rest is gash.

What are u sayin fam, In Da Corner is showa & the rest is girls??!! Confused road talk at its best...

But yeah, Skepta is struggling lately... Its true he's a rave mc really tho. Him & JME both sound like they're in the comfort zone rite now.

[casual]

if i put on a recent skepta tune like King Of Grime and it was by a guy i'd never heard before i'd think he was any swag/average mc.

No offence but I beg to differ on that..
King of grime was pretty fucked imo..
but apart from that yh tru stories..his album was a par and a half.

[Carter]

To be fair, I defended it when I first heard it a lot, me and Carter had forum war over that album lol, but Ive just searched Skepta in Itunes and loads of the tunes with more plays were even on the album. Stupid, Fucking Widda Team, Fucking Widda Team Remix.

Only greatest hits is up there at the moment.

LLelo: I must have missed Come on Man, where can I find that?

LOL I don't even remember that!!!! Just shows you how I just let go of everything Skepta after that album...didn't even care to review it lol

[G.K.]

The best part of greatest hits was the bit at the of listen up where he shouts GOD FORGIVE ME IF I BUSS MY NINE twice on a live show. And that just about sums it up. Both Jme and skepta should have released their albums 2 years ago.

[ozman22]

Its because they have made a bit of money, they are spitting about their situation at the present. Which is what all good Mc's do.
The downfall of this is that no one wants to hear about how rich they are.
We want to hear stuff that we can associate to, like being in the streets, working hard to be somebody. We havnt 'made it' like JME and Skepta so we cant associate.

[Pristine Condition]

yh, trusay skeptas new tune r better than his tunes on greatest hits.

but i fought greatest hits was gd, (i even brought it)

i understand y ppl say skepta has toned down, bcoz he has. but he is still better than alot of ppl.

skepta @ his best

http://rapidshare.com/files/81075949/Skepta_Freestyle_over_Jammer_Beat.mp3

[MedellinManDem]

LOL @ saying they have "made" it...No one knows who they are outside of the urban music scene...And only 16-18 year olds CARE about what they're doing.

[Indyvidual]

Have to say... im so glad to read this thread. I barely ever rated skepta, and then all of a sudden too many ppl were like yeh hes the king of grime, sayin hes better than ghetto, and it was as if i missed all the amazing stuff he did coz i heard nothing!

[Force 1[DTM]]

i agree he aint been as hype without his greeze bars but he can still put them off though e.g. Cricket Bat and Body Bag.

Hes still top 3 for me

[HypeKidd]

I agree totally he has slowly deteriorated from his former ability but i still rate him alot. You can't just give on the man, he will come back... If he doesn't he left us with his old stuff which is good enough i think.

[Kaychi]

only 2 some grime heads has he turned shit. i still think hes good. hes changed cuz he knows hes appealing more 2 mainstream n gettin shown more love. Can't blame him 4 changin his ways because hes gettin sumwer.

[Jay05]

Does any1 have the skepta set with Jay5 (no i didnt use his name as mine) where he is spitting for about an hour

hd got wiped etc

it used to be on barefiles

[fuk off]

skepta waz too much roun bout 05 times now I don't even listen out for him on sets or tunes maybe he'll suprise us all tho who knows??

[R.dot.Tubbs]

skepta talking about lickin heads off clean and bringing out the mash in a winnie the pooh scarfe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skepta talking about t shirts and throwing other mc's mix cd's in the bin

['nuum general]

when did skepta start spitting? was it late '04/early '05?

[BananaMan]

Man used to go nuts for them greazy bars in Meridian, and it's like he's gradually got worse and worse. He used to outshine Big H, Pablo, Bossman and Pres T, now i wouldn't say he was better or less basic than any of them (maybe pres t).

I know he don't spit road bars no more, i don't have a problem with that (even though thats what he was best at) but he's got so basic and his delivery is shit as well. he's got no aggression any more and he sounds lazy on the mic, like he wrote his bars in 10 minutes, which he proably did to be honest, cos i knonw tahts how long it would take me to write that shit he spits nowdays.

its like he slowly changed, and then today i just realised how bad he is. if i put on a recent skepta tune like King Of Grime and it was by a guy i'd never heard before i'd think he was any swag/average mc. A year and a half ago Skepta was in every man's top 5 easy, these days he don't even make my top 10 mc's to be honest.

yeh rant over, sorry bout the essay, had to get some tings off my chest (no homo). discuss.

Welcome to the Adenuga brothers.


These are my exact feelings on JME, it feels like they dumb it down on purpose

[G.K.]

Welcome to the Adenuga brothers.


These are my exact feelings on JME, it feels like they dumb it down on purpose

Ya sometimes you wonder why u liked them in the first place. then you listen to shh hut yuh muh, fucking with the team and we don't believe you and you go "oh ya dem man was shower!!".

[Sick Boy]

The best part of greatest hits was the bit at the of listen up where he shouts GOD FORGIVE ME IF I BUSS MY NINE twice on a live show. And that just about sums it up. Both Jme and skepta should have released their albums 2 years ago.

Greatest Hits was big - you lot are lost.

He does seem like he's trying less recently though. I remember hearing him when he went Westwood with JME and Frisco and he kept choking, forgetting his bars, and really just wasn't on a level.

He might just be trying to do something else as an artist - which would explain him moving away from road bars. Here's hoping he sorts his shit out. I think he's still got it in him to be one of the best.

[Crawla.II]

How does Skepta have bare bars now?
Everytime I hear him he rinses the same swag tings.
Compared to a real MC (DG or Ghetts) who have some fresh bars pretty much everytime I hear em on a set
If you think about all the old bars he doesn't draw for now, hes got quite alot.


Anyway...

'Take off my chain, take off my jacket, trims got beef, im gonna back it'

Old Skepta>>>>>

[out there]

its truee blud..

[R.dot.Tubbs]

yh, trusay skeptas new tune r better than his tunes on greatest hits.

but i fought greatest hits was gd, (i even brought it)

i understand y ppl say skepta has toned down, bcoz he has. but he is still better than alot of ppl.

skepta @ his best

http://rapidshare.com/files/81075949/Skepta_Freestyle_over_Jammer_Beat.mp3

been wheeling this for time, mashman skepta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[ALM]

Skepta's lyrics have changed, like the life he lives has.

[Stephan El Shaarawy]

i was/am embarrassed that greatest hits was in hmv representing grime (apart from in a corner)

[Danny Trejo]

it's not the lyrics i have a problem with, it's the flow. the passion has gone, the rawness that used to be there.

[MedellinManDem]

As someone earlier said, I don't feel pleased about his album representing the grime scene, but that should be an incentive for more guys to make good GRIME albums.

That said, I'm still not yet sold on grime being an artistic genre as opposed to being rave music.

[Saadi Yacef]

Its because they have made a bit of money, they are spitting about their situation at the present. Which is what all good Mc's do.
The downfall of this is that no one wants to hear about how rich they are.
We want to hear stuff that we can associate to, like being in the streets, working hard to be somebody. We havnt 'made it' like JME and Skepta so we cant associate.

Lol , so basically mc's should keep doing bars about poverty 'cause their fans are wastemen ?

Maybe if u ever start making moves u will be able to appreciate him, but anyway this topic is not about content , it's about delivery and his delivery is lacking compared to what it used 2 be . . .