The official Boxing thread

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..not enough boxing heads on here to get a thread going when anyone other than Khan or Hatton fights so i thought i'd make this for the few people who are interested in international boxing and shit... and if there's an official wrestling thread......


so is anyone gonna watch the Nate Campbell - Joan Guzman fight this Saturday??

i'd rather watch the Marquez fight but it ain't on British TV

[Jay]

You want this stickied?

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You want this stickied?

depends if anyone ever posts in it

i can always just subscribe and bump when need be

[i tell da truth]

to be honest boxing is a dying sport now.

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only according to MMA fanboys really

the lower weights are stacked

we've just reached the end of a golden era (90s to early 2000s) so it's bound to not be quite as good in comparison but there's still enough good fighters around and good fights to be made

heavyweight is the only dead part of boxing atm

[Famous?]

I think i'll watch Marquez via that site that has links to all streaming channels, what channel is Guzman on?

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I think i'll watch Marquez via that site that has links to all streaming channels, what channel is Guzman on?

Setanta

i'm gonna watch that fight just because i have setanta and it'd be silly to be squinting at my computer screen at 4am when i could be relaxing in front of the TV

both fights should be interesting though... hard to predict who'll win

i'm gonna go for Guzman and Marquez winning UD's though...

[Quality Control]

Guzman weighed in 3 pounds over the limit so now Campbell's titles aren't on the line

[Jay05]

only according to MMA fanboys really

the lower weights are stacked

we've just reached the end of a golden era (90s to early 2000s) so it's bound to not be quite as good in comparison but there's still enough good fighters around and good fights to be made

heavyweight is the only dead part of boxing atm

boxing is still alive, but its an effort to watch fights without sky

[Quality Control]

Setanta are the saviours of boxing in Britain

no PPV's (yet)... everything is included in the monthly subscription fee unlike with Sky Sports, and they have pretty much monopolised the top class international boxing scene

[Jay05]

Setanta are the saviours of boxing in Britain

no PPV's (yet)... everything is included in the monthly subscription fee unlike with Sky Sports, and they have pretty much monopolised the top class international boxing scene

true

i might buy one of those hard drive free view boxes as u get setanta for a year for £20

[Quality Control]

Guzman fight canceled smh

link for the Marquez fight here: http://www.justin.tv/myboxingfans

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JMM put on a masterclass

smh@anyone who thinks Calzaghe is better than him p4p

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boxing on ITV4 in about half an hour

[Sheff.Steel]

You want this stickied?

Only if someone gifs up a pic of Khans knockout punch.

EDIT : Whos fighting on ITV4 tonight?

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Jon Thaxton for the European title... don't know who's on the undercard but ITV Big Fight Live is usually good for keeping up with the British scene

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[Joe]

whos fighting tonight mate?

[Jay05]

Jon Thaxton for the European title... don't know who's on the undercard but ITV Big Fight Live is usually good for keeping up with the British scene


whos fighting tonight mate?

idiot

[Joe]

ok thanks, i ment ITV4 though

[BG1]

is Kimbo fighting on ITV?

[Trapstar]

locked in.

[Trapstar]

ko

[Quality Control]

Thaxton a big man

[TRU_G]

Thaxton showed form yesterday, some hefty punches, Melero might as well not turned up. Cant help but feeling if the fight lasted longer it would have had a different outcome, Thaxton dont look like he can dance around a ring for 12 rounds like its nothing

How old is he anyway?

[Quality Control]

i think a commentator said he was 34 yesterday

he deserves the title though, considering his career up until now

[Quality Control]

was surprised to see Herbie Hide fighting yesterday... he ain't gonna get a title shot though, or will at least lose if he does

man's been around forever

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also, Juanma Lopez and Yuri Gamboa both fought and won impressively last night (supposedly, i ain't seen the fights yet)

Lopez looks to be the real deal, one of the hardest p4p punchers around

[Xtra P]

So Q, whats your opinion on Mosley, you think he should go out on a high & retire after his lucky win against Mayorga, or you think he should carry on?

[Quality Control]

looks like the Cotto fight took a bit out of him and age is finally catching up to him

i don't think fighting Margarito like has been rumoured would be too clever now, or any of the top 4 or 5 welterweights either... there are a couple names i could see him still beating though

i wanna see him fight Andre Berto (be good to measure just how good Berto is too), Vernon Forrest, Sergio Mora, Oscar De La Hoya (unlikely i know) or maybe even Collazo, i'd give him a good chance against all of them, personally... but he's definitely a shadow of his former self now

EDIT: even Felix Trinidad too actually, he's making a comeback at light middleweight supposedly

[THOR!]

I have just found this thread. I hope to be a regular.

[Xtra P]

looks like the Cotto fight took a bit out of him and age is finally catching up to him

i don't think fighting Margarito like has been rumoured would be too clever now, or any of the top 4 or 5 welterweights either... there are a couple names i could see him still beating though

i wanna see him fight Andre Berto (be good to measure just how good Berto is too), Vernon Forrest, Sergio Mora, Oscar De La Hoya (unlikely i know) or maybe even Collazo, i'd give him a good chance against all of them, personally... but he's definitely a shadow of his former self now

Yeah i'd like to see him fight Berto, Forbes gave him a fight so it would be interesting to see how he handles Mosley.

Mosley is one of my favourite boxers, in his prime he was a beast.

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Mosley is one of my favourite boxers, in his prime he was a beast.

yeah same, i always liked his boxing style

Berto was headlining the undercard of the Mosley fight weren't he, maybe a fight between the two isn't so far out of the realm of possibility after all

i completely forgot about the Forbes fight

[Quality Control]

I have just found this thread. I hope to be a regular.

state ya favourite boxers b

[Jay05]

Haye left the cruiserweight division empty

cud see hide at least getting a shot at one of the vacant belts

[Quality Control]

they were talking about Mormeck... he's past-it too, but i think he'd handle Hide relatively easily judging on both of their previous fights

[G.P]

He wouldn't beat Maccarinelli let alone Haye.

[TRU_G]

state ya favourite boxers b

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Middlewieght is my favourite division

[Quality Control]

what do you think about the current middleweight situation? pretty poor overall

you buy into the Pavlik hype? you like Abraham?

[Xtra P]

what do you think about the current middleweight situation? pretty poor overall

you buy into the Pavlik hype? you like Abraham?

Pavlik is too open, he ships to many punches, a hard hitter would end him imho

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Pavlik is too open, he ships to many punches, a hard hitter would end him imho

so you think Abraham could beat him?

[TRU_G]

what do you think about the current middleweight situation? pretty poor overall

you buy into the Pavlik hype? you like Abraham?

Pavlik is a very good boxer, I aint even going to lie, his first fight I ever watched was the Taylor bout and he done a terrific job in that match

He will tear Hopkins to pieces in a few weeks still

I aint really seen much of Abraham to comment on him, just buffering his fight with Elcock on Youtube now

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if Hopkins wasn't so old he would dismantle Pavlik, he has(had) all the tools to school him... he would do him worse than he did Tito

however he's just too old now, he'll succumb to Pavlik's high pressure and work-rate and lose to a UD, although i'm hoping he can pull of the upset and retire on a high... he is certainly a live underdog

[Xtra P]

so you think Abraham could beat him?

Quite possibly it would be a sick fight!

[TRU_G]

if Hopkins wasn't so old he would dismantle Pavlik, he has(had) all the tools to school him... he would do him worse than he did Tito

however he's just too old now, he'll succumb to Pavlik's high pressure and work-rate and lose to a clear UD or late TKO, although i'm hoping he can pull of the upset and retire on a high... he is certainly a live underdog

Oh yeah I understand if it was when Hopkins was fighting fit it would a joke fixture

But IMO Hopkins is way past it, he should have retired after the Calzaghe fight

[quality]

Oh yeah I understand if it was when Hopkins was fighting fit it would a joke fixture

But IMO Hopkins is way past it, he should have retired after the Calzaghe fight

It's not like Calzaghe dominated him though, Hopkins still has something to offer and is still a big money draw.

[Jay05]

if Hopkins wasn't so old he would dismantle Pavlik, he has(had) all the tools to school him... he would do him worse than he did Tito

hopkins outfought taylor in the later stages of both fights he was just to old / unfit to go 12 full rounds

not sure if pavlik can gain the weight properly for the fight

if pavlik is willing to step up to that weight, then calzaghe shud of fought pavlik and not ducked out and fought jones

[Joe]

dying sport

[Quality Control]

hopkins outfought taylor in the later stages of both fights he was just to old / unfit to go 12 full rounds

not sure if pavlik can gain the weight properly for the fight

if pavlik is willing to step up to that weight, then calzaghe shud of fought pavlik and not ducked out and fought jones

Roy's time is running out and Calzaghe wants a ATG's scalp on his record, i believe he'll fight Pavlik afterwards though (so long as they both get past their next opponents), it makes sense that he would fight Roy first

Joe's had a tough run of fights, considering he's past his prime... Mikkel Kessler and Bernard Hopkins in a row (two fights he could very well have lost), and Jones is a slight step down before fighting another very dangerous opponent in Pavlik

Jones is still a live underdog though and some knowledgeable pundits are tipping him to cause an upset, i think it's just like the Pavlik - Hopkins fight though, as in Jones has all the tools to punish Calzaghe, but may just be too old to utilise his advantages

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also i'm of the belief that Hopkins hasn't lost since he fought Jones Jr.

some very arguable decisions

[Trapstar]

I didnt know hopkins was fighting pavlik i will be watching that definately probably be a ugly fight though..

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I didnt know hopkins was fighting pavlik i will be watching that definately probably be a ugly fight though..

i don't think it'll be as ugly as the Calzaghe - Hopkins fight, as those two are both spoilers and very ring-smart

also Pavlik is quite rangy

[Jay05]

Jones is still a live underdog though and some knowledgeable pundits are tipping him to cause an upset, i think it's just like the Pavlik - Hopkins fight though, as in Jones has all the tools to punish Calzaghe, but may just be too old to utilise his advantages

jones is seriously past his best his prime

calzaghe is gettin on but has the work rate to win on points and will unless he get caught

will be placing large money on calzaghe points

the longer calzaghe leaves pavlik the more dangerous he will become

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jones is seriously past his best his prime

calzaghe is gettin on but has the work rate to win on points and will unless he get caught

will be placing large money on calzaghe points

the longer calzaghe leaves pavlik the more dangerous he will become

Calzaghe's main weapon now his hands are so fragile is his work-rate, that is also the first thing a boxer loses to age... age could creep up on him any day now

Jones is a shadow of his former self, but in his prime he was so great, even operating at 50% he's still dangerous

he has hand-speed, precision in punches and power advantages over Joe, and Hopkins showed that Joe is vulnerable to straight rights and counters, who better to capitalise on that than Jones Jr??

all said and done though, i would put money on Joe to win a points decision too... i just think people underestimate Jones' stylistic advantages for this fight

[Trapstar]

We will see if pavliks search and destroy style is gonna be effective with hopkins.
Im gonna go with pavlik on points because hopkins hasnt impressed me recently.
(fighting to dirty)me personaly i appreciate the science and dont wanna see holding and butting

[Quality Control]

man if you appreciate the science you gotta appreciate Hopkins

wiliest muhfucker to have ever stepped foot inside the ring, his defensive subtleties are bested only by Mayweather Jr and Willie Pep... yeah, he's slowed down with age but who doesn't?

Hopkins the type of fighter that separates boxing from that MMA nonsense

[Jay05]

i thinking the decision to choose jones over pavlik was purely a cash decision

if calzaghe wins he has beaten a washed up great, if he loses he never was that good

if calzaghe does want to fight pavlik, then he shud of taken the earliest opportunity. pavlik will only improve over the next year and allow him to bulk up if he is gonna move to super middle, whereas joe can only maintain his current ability at best

[Jay05]

man if you appreciate the science you gotta appreciate Hopkins

wiliest muhfucker to have ever stepped foot inside the ring, his defensive subtleties are bested only by Mayweather Jr and Willie Pep... yeah, he's slowed down with age but who doesn't?

Hopkins the type of fighter that separates boxing from that MMA nonsense

i used to

but he lost to taylor by going slow at the start of the fight, even though he exposed him for a lack of class

then repeated it at the second attempt. calzaghe was always a fight he shud of took 3 years ago and he would of won

[Trapstar]

Calzaghe's main weapon now his hands are so fragile is his work-rate, that is also the first thing a boxer loses to age... age could creep up on him any day now

Jones is a shadow of his former self, but in his prime he was so great, even operating at 50% he's still dangerous

he has hand-speed, precision in punches and power advantages over Joe, and Hopkins showed that Joe is vulnerable to straight rights and counters, who better to capitalise on that than Jones Jr??

all said and done though, i would put money on Joe to win a points decision too... i just think people underestimate Jones' stylistic advantages for this fight
The thing about roy jones is when he was in his prime he had ridiculous speed,counters,and reactions now hes older he cant relie on that and if im not mistaken his last fight was against felix trinidad and he was using a high guard which i dont think works to well for him i think calazhage may outscore him with 'slaps'

[Trapstar]

man if you appreciate the science you gotta appreciate Hopkins

wiliest muhfucker to have ever stepped foot inside the ring, his defensive subtleties are bested only by Mayweather Jr and Willie Pep... yeah, he's slowed down with age but who doesn't?

Hopkins the type of fighter that separates boxing from that MMA nonsensehave utmost respect for his skills but from what i saw from the calazhage fight i was not impressedphATN3XWbwA

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i thinking the decision to choose jones over pavlik was purely a cash decision

if calzaghe wins he has beaten a washed up great, if he loses he never was that good

if calzaghe does want to fight pavlik, then he shud of taken the earliest opportunity. pavlik will only improve over the next year and allow him to bulk up if he is gonna move to super middle, whereas joe can only maintain his current ability at best

i think Joe's more concerned with legacy than money at this point to be honest

think about it... when you look at Marciano, do you remember him for beating Moore/Walcott or for not fighting Patterson/Liston?... and Pavlik is no where near as great as Patterson/Liston, and Moore/Walcott aren't as big a name as Roy Jones Jr

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have utmost respect for his skills but from what i saw from the calazhage fight i was not impressed

he was 42 at the time, give him a break lol

Calzaghe was barely any better than Hopkins anyway

[S Dot Beatz.]

OSCAR DE LA HOYA

vs

MANNY PACQUIAO

guna be big

[Jay05]

i think Joe's more concerned with legacy than money at this point to be honest

think about it... when you look at Marciano, do you remember him for beating Moore/Walcott or for not fighting Patterson/Liston?... and Pavlik is no where near as great as Patterson/Liston, and Moore/Walcott aren't as big a name as Roy Jones Jr

its a fair point

but ur last 2 fights against a 42 yr old and a 39 yr old isnt it

main point is calzaghe has had years to try and get a big fight and he has left it to late

hopkins had been beaten twice by taylor
jones twice by tarver

[Trapstar]

OSCAR DE LA HOYA

vs

MANNY PACQUIAO

guna be bigi need to catch up wtf at what weight?

[Quality Control]

its a fair point

but ur last 2 fights against a 42 yr old and a 39 yr old isnt it

main point is calzaghe has had years to try and get a big fight and he has left it to late

hopkins had been beaten twice by taylor
jones twice by tarver

yeah i know, i can just see where Joe is coming from is all

these details tend to get lost in time, and the name and W next to it are all that matters

i think the Jones - Calzaghe fight will be entertaining so i aint gonna complain about it... also cos it's two of my favourite fighters of all time going head to head

[Trapstar]

he was 42 at the time, give him a break lol

calzaghe was barely any better than hopkins anywayfair enough i watched the fight months ago during my lunchbreak in poor quality
(any links for fight videos stage6 aint working no more)

[Quality Control]

worldboxingarchive

torrent site, you gotta seed though or they ban you quick as fuck

i'm banned currently, i need to rejoin

[Jay05]

yeah should be good

Haye taking Monte Barrett on on the 15th of november shud be a decent fight

hes not doing an audley anyway

[Trapstar]

worldboxingarchive

torrent site, you gotta seed though or they ban you quick as fuck

i'm banned currently, i need to rejoin
safe signing up to this now

[Quality Control]

*checking sig*

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i might put something on Pacman beating Oscar you know... i got a good feeling

[Jay05]

i have already backed pacman

the weight maybe an issue but oscar is a business man now

[Quality Control]

yeah... i'm thinking oscar might be drained making welterweight too, it's the weight issue that no one has touched upon it seems

he hasn't made welter in years

[Trapstar]

signup failed *pissed*

[Jay05]

yeah... i'm thinking oscar might be drained making welterweight too, it's the weight issue that no one has touched upon it seems

he hasn't made welter in years

he made super welterweight v mayweather which apparently took a lot to do, so losing another 7 pounds is a lot

if pacman wins im sure he will fight hatton next

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if pacman wins im sure he will fight hatton next

yeah... it's a shame really cos Lightweight is stacked, i wanna see him fight some of them guys

not to mention complete the trilogy with Marquez and determine who's best for once and for all

[Quality Control]

looks like Mosley - Margarito for January is a probable fight

not a good idea for Shane... fearless though, hope he wins

[Xtra P]

Alot of boxers just don't know when to quit but I hope he wins then calls it a D.A.Y!

[Quality Control]

i think he has a chance if he shows up like he did for the Cotto fight... and he won't be dumb enough to fight for the KO like Cotto did against Margarito... i dunno, maybe he can win this... might even be worth putting a little bit of money on Shane getting a decision

[Ida Kyoya]

Margarito aint losing to Mosley. Shane just about beat Mayorga who is a poor mans Antonio.

[Quality Control]

in what way is Mayorga a poor man's Margarito?

big night of boxing tonight on Setanta, Vitali Klitschko vs Samuel Peter then Bad Chad Dawson vs Antonio Tarver

i got Peter by KO and Dawson by UD or SD

[Quality Control]

i got Peter by KO

:dead:

[Trapstar]

in what way is Mayorga a poor man's Margarito?

big night of boxing tonight on Setanta, Vitali Klitschko vs Samuel Peter then Bad Chad Dawson vs Antonio Tarver

i got Peter by KO and Dawson by UD or SD

any links to this?

[Quality Control]

i'm sure there is somewhere, but i'm watching it on tv..... if i come across any i'll post em though

[Trapstar]

safe.just saw the kliko entrance its alot.

[Trapstar]

are dawson and tarver are fighting in a few mins?

[Quality Control]

are dawson and tarver are fighting in a few mins?

i'm not sure when the main event starts, but the program on setanta starts in 5 mins

[Quality Control]

http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=20663&part=sports
has all the links

http://www.justin.tv/sportinwood
is always a good quality stream
never had any problems with it





*copy + pasted so i dunno how good the links are/if they work or whatever*

[Trapstar]

just seen them on boxing scene still safe.

[Alfie]

Klitschko was decent tonight

Would Haye beat him? Hmm

[Quality Control]

peter didn't exactly put up much resistance... the setanta crew were getting a little ahead of themselves post-fight

then again i dont think the monte barett fight will be enough for us to determine whether haye will do anything major at heavyweight either

[Alfie]

peter didn't exactly put up much resistance... the setanta crew were getting a little ahead of themselves post-fight

then again i dont think the monte barett fight will be enough for us to determine whether haye will do anything major at heavyweight either

Peter was terrible tonight

[Quality Control]

shouldnt have allowed open scoring either, i would have liked to see Peter KO'd and possibly brain damaged :yes:

[Trapstar]

Klitschko was decent tonight

Would Haye beat him? Hmm hes looking to fight wlad not vitali:dead:

[Alfie]

hes looking to fight wlad not vitali:dead:

Vlad is more the "legend" so to speak

[Quality Control]

hes looking to fight wlad not vitali:dead:

yeah they were talking about him fighting Vitali instead if Povetkin beats Wlad though

[Trapstar]

Vlad is more the "legend" so to speakclearly

[Alfie]

clearly

Who was you before?

[Trapstar]

online chimp
and im going for dawson

[Alfie]

online chimp
and im going for dawson unanimous decision

o kl
Tarver TKO

[Trapstar]

Good fight first time seeing chad dawson he looked good in there i scored it
10-2 (TARVER WINNING ROUND 3 AND ROUND 6)
tarver looked real tired in there no snap on his punches

[Quality Control]

Tarver looked old

perfect time to retire now, and he went out like a champ... showed heart in round 12

[Quality Control]

Dawson is definitely beatable, but i don't think there's really anyone around to beat him

[Trapstar]

http://www.justin.tv/clip/5ccb037ca78
round of the peter fight

[Quality Control]

Pavlik - Hopkins tonight! i'm hyped...

c'mon B Hop

[Cooks]

Pavlik - Hopkins tonight! i'm hyped...

c'mon B Hop

Hopefully Hopkins will win

Pavlik unbeaten aint he?

[Quality Control]

..yeah, although i personally woulda given the Taylor rematch to Taylor

[Cooks]

only seen highlights of that fight
i'd of said Pavlik deserved to win that

[Quality Control]

it was close... i can see why they gave it to Pavlik, because he was busier, but i thought Taylor was more effective... and if he hadn't been so shook to pull the trigger he could have destroyed Pavlik

[Trapstar]

oh shit i forgot about this i will be watching this what time is it starting ? two of my favourite fighters im mad excited

[Jay05]

is justin tv the best place to stream boxing

if not i will download it 2moro and watch it then

[Quality Control]

oh shit i forgot about this i will be watching this what time is it starting ? two of my favourite fighters im mad excited

i think the main event starts at 4:15... haven't looked into the undercard, dunno if it's worth watching

Pavlik annoys me, i want B Hop to end the hype... but i think he's just too old to pull it off

[BG1]

this on sertanta? might just sky+ it and fast forward untill a ko.

[Trapstar]

i think the main event starts at 4:15... haven't looked into the undercard, dunno if it's worth watching

Pavlik annoys me, i want B Hop to end the hype... but i think he's just too old to pull it off

I rate pavlik still but hes going down at least once.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/20/majfighters_wideweb__470x348,0.jpg

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I rate pavlik still but hes going down at least once.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/04/20/majfighters_wideweb__470x348,0.jpg

i dunno... in theory Hopkins should be able to counter him even easier than he did Calzaghe, and also Pavlik's chin isn't as strong as Calzaghe's... but i don't think it's gonna happen somehow...i think the first 6 rounds'll be very close, with Hopkins maybe edging it, then Pavlik will overwhelm him for the second half of the fight and win a comfortable UD...

[Eric Cantona]

Sentana doing alot, will watch the replay tomorrow

[Jay05]

i dunno... in theory Hopkins should be able to counter him even easier than he did Calzaghe, and also Pavlik's chin isn't as strong as Calzaghe's... but i don't think it's gonna happen somehow...i think the first 6 rounds'll be very close, with Hopkins maybe edging it, then Pavlik will overwhelm him for the second half of the fight and win a comfortable UD...

There is no way hopkins can win every round

but if he is smart he might be able to pick off Pavlik

I can only see a KO for hopkins to win it, rounds 10 on when Hopkins knows this should be better than the rest of the fight

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I can only see a KO for hopkins to win it, rounds 10 on when Hopkins knows this should be better than the rest of the fight

it'll be like the Tarver - Dawson fight though, where he will just be too tired/old to "execute" him so to speak

[Jay05]

it'll be like the Tarver - Dawson fight though, where he will just be too tired/old to "execute" him so to speak

i got 50 quid on Pavlik points

although with the step up in weight, u can get 7/1 on hopkins ko and 26/1 on the draw

[Quality Control]

my head says pavlik will win, my heart says hopkins no homo

[Jay05]

my head says pavlik will win, my heart says hopkins no homo

i lost a lot of respect for Hopkins after the 2nd Taylor fight

He clearly was more talented and let Taylor win the 1st with a sloppy start, then made the same mistake in the rematch.

Calzaghe was a bit of an Embarrassment too, more the way Hopkins acted after rather than during the fight.

[Quality Control]

i think it's fair to complain about the calzaghe decision, i had hopkins up by 1 or 2 points

i got a lot of respect for b hop... one of my favourite fighters ever... his ring smarts are second to none... and i want him to go out on a high note

[Jay05]

i think it's fair to complain about the calzaghe decision, i had hopkins up by 1 or 2 points

i got a lot of respect for b hop... one of my favourite fighters ever... his ring smarts are second to none... and i want him to go out on a high note


Judges reward work rate

Hopkins didnt work hard enough to win

[Quality Control]

Judges reward work rate

Hopkins didnt work hard enough to win

Clean punching - Hopkins
Effective aggressiveness - Hopkins
Ring generalship - toss up
Defense - Hopkins

work rate sways judges a lot but it's not officially part of the criteria

[Jay05]

Clean punching - Hopkins
Effective aggressiveness - Hopkins
Ring generalship - toss up
Defense - Hopkins

work rate sways judges a lot but it's not officially part of the criteria
ALL THE BIG FIGHT STATS
CompuBox punch statistics
Bernard Hopkins Joe Calzaghe

468 total punches thrown 707
127 total punches connected 232
27 percentage 33
93 jabs hrown 224
11 jabs connected 45
12 percentage 20
375 power punches thrown 483
116 power punches connected 187
31 percentage 39

Whilst Calzaghe does clip opponents (or slap) he has a higher percentage of punches landed than Hopkins with every punch

Hopkins was not aggressive enough in that fight. He should of learnt after the Taylor fights that he has to throw more punches

[Quality Control]

c'mon you know you can't take compubox numbers for gospel... what they class as landing i dont necessarily... a large portion of them 232 skimmed b hop or hit leather

and he doesn't throw punches because he can't at this point, he fights economically to reserve energy and even then he's gassing by the final rounds

[Jay05]

c'mon you know you can't take compubox numbers for gospel... what they class as landing i dont necessarily... a large portion of them 232 skimmed b hop or hit leather

and he doesn't throw punches because he can't at this point, he fights economically to reserve energy and even then he's gassing by the final rounds

yeah exactly

he took the timeout off the low blow to get his breath back

if he cant fight 12 then he should fight fo a KO or give up

he has nothing left to prove

[Trapstar]

wow boxing lesson is all i can say talking to him like a little boy after >>>>>>>>

[Quality Control]

hahahahaha why am i such a pessimist????? i shoulda had more faith

[Jay05]

Wow

i was really wrong

gonna download fight and watch it

[Trapstar]

Wow

i was really wrong

gonna download fight and watch it
link? I need to see that again that was a walk in the park for bhop complete domination wow hard slick combos hitting him with the right hand at will, im surprised he didnt drop him when he had the chance overall=Boxing lesson

[Alfie]

I was right, as always. B-Hop is a legend. Pavlik is just any white guy.

[B-Hop] Ill never be beat by a white boy [/B-hop]

O wait

[Quality Control]

[B-Hop] Ill never be beat by a white boy [/B-hop]

O wait

nah he beat Calzaghe too... he was robbed

Hopkins = :crown:

i never liked Pavlik but i thought more of him than that! i guess i was caught in the hype too... he had no answers at all, i mean you can't expect him to beat a Hopkins on form like that, but you should expect him to make a fight of it... hopefully Abraham knocks him out soon and deads that hypejob for once and for all



if B Hop had had just a little more gas in the tank he woulda floored Pavlik in that final round for sure

[Xtra P]

B Hop is something else, for him to be fighting like this at his age is remarkable, definetly one of the best that ever did it!

[Quality Control]

i think that fight places him ahead of Mayweather and Roy Jones as the greatest of this era

[Eric Cantona]

nah he beat Calzaghe too... he was robbed

Truth, when i watched that fight he won it clear for everyone to see

I was glad Calzague won it though

[Quality Control]

Truth, when i watched that fight he won it clear for everyone to see

I was glad Calzague won it though

i like both of those fighters a lot so i was just annoyed that the one who deserved it didn't win

this Hopkins win over Pavlik definitely helps Calzaghe's resume though... and means Joe doesn't have to fight Pavlik (although there is no doubt in my mind that he would beat Pavlik in a similar, if less impressive, fashion as Hopkins now)

i wonder who Calzaghe will fight after(if) he beats Roy now...

[BG1]

12 rounds and won a UD.

yawn

[Xtra P]

loool

[Quality Control]

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03qM1LP4cJd6o/610x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0f4v9tm6G0c6H/340x.jpg

[Trapstar]

I do a bit of boxing (sparring in a real boxing gym) and i tried to ignore black gerbils comments because it is clear you are one of those breahs who just wants a ko
boxing is called a science for a reason so please gtfo!
bring on the jones vs calzhage!

link to the download http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1XRPNSCG

[The Egghead]

Just clocked this thread, I used to be well into my boxing, was training for a while until I had to quit because of this cyst on my eye, I never went back after. Thinking of doin private lessons again when i'm working again.

[Jay]

Boxing thread now back to boxing.

[Trapstar]

Nice

[Jay05]

i wonder who Calzaghe will fight after(if) he beats Roy now...

unless he fights dawson

which would be a risk

then i can see him retiring

i can see calzaghe beating jones but really struggling if Jones is in shape

[Quality Control]

unless he fights dawson

which would be a risk

then i can see him retiring

i can see calzaghe beating jones but really struggling if Jones is in shape

i think Dawson has the style to handle any light heavy at the moment, including Calzaghe and B Hop

i guess the Hopkins win may force Joe into retirement... unless he is stupid enough to take a rematch with B Hop, but he spoke out and said he wouldn't want to already

and i can see Jones giving Calzaghe real problems until the late rounds, where he will run out of gas and fold... possible TKO business, more likely a decision though as Jones's punches probably still pack enough to keep JC off him

[Jay05]

i think Dawson has the style to handle any light heavy at the moment, including Calzaghe and B Hop

i guess the Hopkins win may force Joe into retirement... unless he is stupid enough to take a rematch with B Hop, but he spoke out and said he wouldn't want to already

and i can see Jones giving Calzaghe real problems until the late rounds, where he will run out of gas and fold... possible TKO business, more likely a decision though as Jones's punches probably still pack enough to keep JC off him

Im looking forward to this fight ALot

if Calzaghe fights like normal, then Jones could go to work. Im thinking maybe a split decision to Calzaghe. Although my thinking on it changes weekly

want to see the big fight countdown and see what Jones is looking like

[Cooks]

Anybody think Haye has got a chance against Barrett?

[Quality Control]

yeah man he needs to blow Barrett out the ring

if he loses then lol@britain's so called golden era in boxing

[Jay05]

Haye needs to put on a stone or 2 before he can challenge the big boys

will be interesting to see if he can KO or at least damage an 18 stone + fighter

[Cooks]

I was thinking in comparison of size, Haye looks much smaller than Barrett.

It will be a good fight, be a tough fight for Haye though

[Quality Control]

It will be a good fight, be a tough fight for Haye though

it shouldn't be if he's the real deal...

[Jay05]

it shouldn't be if he's the real deal...

still it is his first fight at Heavyweight

He could of picked some1 worse.

[quality]

He said he wants to retire young. Better doing it this way than the way Harrison tried it and fighting complete nobodies.

[Quality Control]

i would prefer if he fought James Toney

i think Toney might have pulled it out the bag and schooled him even now

[Jay05]

Random but

9nVy3hkcQuI

from 2 mins 30 onwards

how upset Eubank gets at Toney's comment

[Quality Control]

lol@how smarmy Jonathon Ross looks in that video

Toney is one of the funniest fuckers in boxing... behind maybe Mayorga

jSmiC0knRL4

[Quality Control]

Showtime Card (Mijares vs Darchinyan)
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=22685&part=sports
http://www.justin.tv/sportinwood

Top Rank PPV Card (Donaire vs Arce and Chavez Jr's fight)
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=22956&part=sports
http://www.justin.tv/ltvnman101

[Quality Control]

vanes martirosyan is sick :ohmy:

[Quality Control]

yo the mijares fight is mad!

Darch had him down already

EDIT: shit Mijares KO'd :ohmy::ohmy:

[Cooks]

just locked in for the Donaire fight

[Quality Control]

Donaire should be on the top 10 p4p list

[Quality Control]

http://teampilipinas.info/2008/11/nonito-donaire-vs-moruti-mthalane-free.html

link i'm using btw

[Cooks]

Donaire should be on the top 10 p4p list

i'd say he would be #10

what was all that ku fung shit on the stream then?

[Quality Control]

what was all that ku fung shit on the stream then?

dunno i was looking at the forum

heard the commentators mention something like that tho... is it good now?

[Cooks]

http://teampilipinas.info/2008/11/nonito-donaire-vs-moruti-mthalane-free.html

link i'm using btw

using the same one on justin.tv

[Cooks]

dunno i was looking at the forum

heard the commentators mention something like that tho... is it good now?

yeah back to the fight now, it was a good knockout kick who ever it was lol

[Quality Control]

i tried justin.tv and the quality was whack

[Quality Control]

i'd say he would be #10

i guess he should take Mijares's place

[Anonymous]

Lies

[Quality Control]

what just happened? i wasnt looking

[Quality Control]

argh fuck, my computer's resetting!!! fucking windows updates

[Cooks]

Ref stopped it because of a cut on the eye on Arce

Donaire Won

[Cooks]

bad decision imo by Cortez

[Quality Control]

okay back in business just in time

cortez is a fucking twat

[Quality Control]

whoa i thought Vanda was Mikkel Kessler for a second

[Cooks]

whoa i thought Vanda was Mikkel Kessler for a second

lol they do lookalike

Vanda looks like some mexican thug

[Quality Control]

anyone else think Chavez jr looks a bit like De La Hoya? and has a stance like his too

which is ironic considering his fathers' history with DLH

[Quality Control]

early in the fight i know but Vanda looks like a bum who had a one-off good night last time

[Cooks]

when is the Pacquiao de la Hoya fight happening?

wanna make sure i don't miss that

[Quality Control]

when is the Pacquiao de la Hoya fight happening?

wanna make sure i don't miss that

december

will be £15 for both the Khan come-back card and the DLH - Pacman card on sky i think

[Cooks]

december

will be £15 for both the Khan come-back card and the DLH - Pacman card on sky i think

that is gonna be legendary

Vanda's had a good round, cant write him off yet

[Trapstar]

lead right hands>

[Quality Control]

Chavez jr. looks good when things are going his way, but his defensive instincts are very poor... a top guy would punish him

[Quality Control]

lead right hands>

Vanda's sneaky as fuck

[Cooks]

final round!

[Quality Control]

good little fight

good night of boxing actually.....i had no intentions of staying up for this either... gotta be up at 8am :dead:

[Cooks]

good little fight

good night of boxing actually.....i had no intentions of staying up for this either... gotta be up at 8am :dead:

yeah was alright, didnt expect it to be this good tbh

4 hours left, pointless going sleep

next 3 weeks of boxing should be good

[Trapstar]

Roy jones vs calzhage! this saturday cant wait

[Quality Control]

who's everyone supporting and who's everyone predicting will win

supporting & predicting Calzaghe myself

hopefully Jones can put up a good fight though, i reckon he'll be catching Calzaghe coming in all night, but will gas in like round 8

[Cooks]

supporting & predicting Calzaghe myself

.
I reckon it will be a good fight but Calzaghe will grab it at the end

[Quality Control]

Jones Jr always annoyed me

[Trapstar]

Im gonna have to go with jones.

[Trapstar]

Jones Jr always annoyed me

Im the complete opposite

[Quality Control]

Im the complete opposite

he's a great fighter but his personality gets on my nerves

[Jay05]

Logically i think Calzaghe will win

but if Jones is in real shape, he could really catch Calzaghe

[Trapstar]

anyone seen the 24/7 countdown yet?

[Jay05]

"u know its pretty peaceful when u see a dear run past" Roy Jones made me laugh

after seeing this im pretty sure Calzaghe will win. Jones didnt appear too hungry and he seemed very reminiscent about his past. Felt he should of changed his training camp and brought some1 new in.

Points win for Calzaghe or perhaps a late round knockout

[Trapstar]

barret vs haye on in roughly 5-10 mins http://www.justin.tv/em151

[Alfie]

Locked... should be a decent fight

[Jay05]

locked

thxs 4 the link

[Jay05]

fight on now

[Alfie]

LOL@ Barratts fall

[Jay05]

This fight was v scrappy

but Haye looked powerful

would like to see haye v vitali and see if he will change his technique at all

[Jay05]

going to try and stream this later

post up ne links

thxs

[RIP Jakey]

going to try and stream this later

post up ne links

thxs

.

[Alfie]

www.Justin.TV

Will have it

[Jay05]

not wrkin now

got it from justin.tv

[Trapstar]

who is on the undercard? anyone good?

[Eric Cantona]

On that site it just says, FBI warning, please leave the site lol

[Trapstar]

On that site it just says, FBI warning, please leave the site lol

yea wtf is that all about lol

[Jay05]

On that site it just says, FBI warning, please leave the site lol

LOL in some funny text too

i assume that maybe too many ppl were using the stream or it was a joke?

[Eric Cantona]

Yeh there will of been loads of people raping the stream so the owner has written that, i bet alot of people fucked off as well lol

[Trapstar]

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=24554&part=sports

[Eric Cantona]

http://www.justin.tv/widgets/jtv_player.r3e909b04e5ea385fb0f532a9b60e12fd897ce4 06.swf?channel=em152

Here we go...

[Cooks]

has anyone got a good quality version of it?

[Alfie]

Alex's one is good.

Hatton should have this TBH
Landslide so far

[Eric Cantona]

They should of let the fight go on till the end even though that pussyhole weren't throwin any more punches

[Cooks]

come on Hatton

roll on dec 6

[Quality Control]

saturday after next biiiiiiiig boxing night... i'm hyped already

Khan's comeback (please god let him be KO'd again!) Froch fight on ITV i think and of course De La Hoya - Pacman

i really think Pacquiao can spring a surprise... but i'm rooting for DLH, think he gets a lot of undeserved hate

[Cooks]

didn't even know Khan was fighting, i'll wtch that to see him get beat on again.

i think De La Hoya will win, they fighting at welterweight?

[Cooks]

Amir Khan been sparring with Pacman

[Trapstar]

_F_jW4csyeI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_F_jW4csyeI

[Cooks]

Qc, can you get one of them good quality streams for this fight?

[Grimes]

whats time the fight

[Cooks]

whats time the fight

which 1?

de la hoya is about 3 i think

[rsl1988]

khans is 10 i believe ?

[Grimes]

3 cool so i'll watch it when i come back

[Anonymous]

I want Pacquiao to win, though I know De La Hoya is strong favourite.

[Alfie]

Tyson Fury is huge... N/H

Good name if it's his real name

[Anonymous]

Tyson Fury is huge... N/H

Good name if it's his real name

Yeah but man looks unfit imo.

[Alfie]

Yeah but man looks unfit imo.

Yeah. he just go back from his honeymoon lol

[Alfie]

http://www.justin.tv/dd_2/popout

[Jay05]

Enzo looks in awesome shape

but Ellis was a joke

[JACK]

lol at the guy khan was fighting

[odubzstahh]

Khan did alot.

[Anonymous]

Fuck Khan

[Alfie]

Pascal Vs Froch = Fight of the year

So far

[Cooks]

I want Pacman to whoop de la Hoya tbh but i know that aint gonna happen.

de la hoya is starting to piss me off now

safe for the stream

How did Khan get on? missed it

[Jay05]

I want Pacman to whoop de la Hoya tbh but i know that aint gonna happen.

de la hoya is starting to piss me off now

safe for the stream

How did Khan get on? missed it

KO

complete mismatch

[Cooks]

KO

complete mismatch

Just watched, did good but the guy was a nobody.

[Cooks]

lol @ pacman in an Arsenal top

[Anonymous]

I just seen the fight is at 4.45am. I don't think I'm gonna be able to stay awake.

[Anonymous]

All my streams are dying.

[Anonymous]

I want Pacquiao to win.

http://siu.i.ph/photo/d/181-1/manny+pacquiao.jpg

Come on!

[Anonymous]

I want Pacman to whoop de la Hoya tbh but i know that aint gonna happen.

lol

[Sinko]

manny embarrassed him. jeez.

[odubzstahh]

Pacman fucked De la Hoya's shit up boy.
I knew it was gonna happened doe.

[Trapstar]

dominated