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[Quality Control]

I'm quite confident that Barrera could take Khan's biggest shots and Khan has shown time and time again that when he's in control of a fight he forgets boxing and tries to brawl his way to the TKO. I think that Barrera having been in with Morales, Hamed, Pac-man without being put down(younger days i know) I just can't see Khan putting him down and Barrera will counter him all day long.

Khan has pretty good physical attributes - his power is good for a LW (although not as good as he thinks it is) and speed kills

and Barrera, for all his hardiness and mental toughness, was never especially known for having a granite chin

he was more of a thinker for the latter part of his career, and operated on swift hand speed, amazing precision, decent power and the reflexes to counter punch perfectly

he couldn't smile through haymakers like morales

[Alfie]

Khan has pretty good physical attributes, and for Barrera, for all his hardiness and mental toughness, was never especially known for having a granite chin

he's was more of a thinker for the latter part of his career, and operated on swift hand speed, amazing precision, decent power and the reflexes to counter punch perfectly

he couldn't smile through haymakers like morales

I just see this fight being like Hatton Vs Mayweather

Khan being Hatton
Barrera being Money May

If you get what I mean?

[Quality Control]

I just see this fight being like Hatton Vs Mayweather

Khan being Hatton
Barrera being Money May

If you get what I mean?

nah it's a totally different kettle of fish to be honest,,, age wasn't an element in hatton - mayweather and they are all pretty different stylistically

i think khan + old barrera comes up with very different results style-wise to mayweather + hatton

the best comparison would funnily enough be barrera - hamed (racial stereotyping aside), but with the balance tipped in the muslim's favour this time

[Alfie]

nah it's a totally different kettle of fish to be honest,,, age wasn't an element in hatton - mayweather and they are all pretty different stylistically

i think khan + old barrera comes up with very different results style-wise to mayweather + hatton

the best comparison would funnily enough be barrera - hamed (racial stereotyping aside), but with the balance tipped in khan's favour this time

I mean i can just see Barrera waiting his time and picking his shots and around the 8th catching Khan flush

[Quality Control]

I mean i can just see Barrera waiting his time and picking his shots and around the 8th catching Khan flush
i dont think he can waste time in this match

he's not a defensive master like floyd and will be getting hit by khan throughout the fight (khan has the speed advantage and reach advantage, and i'm guessing he'll be the more mobile of the two hence preventing barrera from running away)

his best bet is, like you say, to time his punches, but he'll also need to make khan respect him early on with some aggression... if he can wobble khan early i'll be cheesing like a fucking clown. khan's not the sharpest tool and is easily outsmarted also, so maybe barrera can use that to his advantage in some way i cant think of

but i just see him taking too much punishment from khan's quick hands and high output and being stopped

[THOR!]

Khan thinks he is a lot better than he is and got a rude awakening when tested by someone decent. Another loss is not going to help him considering a lot of people were wrongly dubbing him as the new prince naseem. He is either going to channel all of that into hunger and fight like a new man or come in nervous and get walked over.

Barrera is an incredible technical boxer but way past his time, his reaction speed and movement have dropped considerably the past few years but in his hay day he was boxing circles around what Khan is capable of right now - here's hoping that Barrera an draw for a bit of that old fire and deal with Khan properly.

[THOR!]

I mean i can just see Barrera waiting his time and picking his shots and around the 8th catching Khan flush

I'd be surprised if it goes to round 8 tbh.

[Quality Control]

it's funny cos if barrera does manage to pull off the win, don king'll probably have him in there with juan diaz next, getting beaten to a pulp

whereas if khan wins, he'll probably fight 2 or 3 more school teachers before facing another past it featherweight

[Alfie]

I just think to myself "Khan nearly got knocked out by an electrician from Glasgow and Barrera was a world champion"

My heart is leading me on this one tbh

[THOR!]

I just think to myself "Khan nearly got knocked out by an electrician from Glasgow and Barrera was a world champion"

My heart is leading me on this one tbh

I'm with you but you can't let nostalgia cloud the current logistics of the fight.

[Quality Control]

i predicted khan would beat prescott too so we'll see

maybe i overestimate khan and frank warren's ability to bleed average boxers dry

[THOR!]

when is it on?

[Alfie]

14th of March

[Quality Control]

14th blood

sky sports

£15 pay per view i'm guessing (will grudgingly pay just to see barrera)

[THOR!]

Sky Sports? bollocks.

I've grown to love and appreciate my Sentana sports.
Will pay anyway.

[Quality Control]

i swear down i could have kissed buncey when i found out setanta swooped in for diaz - marquez

[THOR!]

very sick fight.

[Jay05]

why would warren take the fight unless he thought khan shud win

if khan wins then the media will say barrera is over the hill.

Khan has got a lot of improving b4 he is world class. His style suited amateur boxing with the high punches connected but lack of power.

[THOR!]

Yeah but if he keeps tapping away then Barrera will drop.

[Alfie]

why would warren take the fight unless he thought khan shud win

if khan wins then the media will say barrera is over the hill.

Khan has got a lot of improving b4 he is world class. His style suited amateur boxing with the high punches connected but lack of power.

Khan wins he beats a legend
Khan loses he got beat by a legend

It's like tryna beat up the older kids in school

[Quality Control]

why would warren take the fight unless he thought khan shud win

if khan wins then the media will say barrera is over the hill.

Khan has got a lot of improving b4 he is world class. His style suited amateur boxing with the high punches connected but lack of power.
i think his power is fair


Khan wins he beats a legend
Khan loses he got beat by a legend

exactly! percentage of people who follow khan career who know or care about the real deal with the fight is very low

you know the tabloids and british boxing media will spin it as some big accomplishment... if they did for st claire they will damn well do it for barrera

[THOR!]

Depends on how it is interpreted.

Khan wins he beats a has been (big whoop).
Khan loses he got beat by a has been (shameful).

I'm not too up to date on the medias opinion on barrera so take that comment with a pinch of salt.

[Quality Control]

Depends on how it is interpreted.

Khan wins he beats a has been (big whoop).
Khan loses he got beat by a has been (shameful).

I'm not too up to date on the medias opinion on barrera so take that comment with a pinch of salt.

They are really building him up pre-fight

like every Khan opponent he is "Khan's biggest test to date" (what about the guy knocked him the fuck out in 5.8 seconds!?) and they are constantly reminding us of all Barrera's great feats, while failing to mention they were years ago and at least 2 weight divisions lower than lightweight

[Jay05]

i think his power is fair



exactly! percentage of people who follow khan career who know or care about the real deal with the fight is very low

you know the tabloids and british boxing media will spin it as some big accomplishment... if they did for st claire they will damn well do it for barrera

power was the wrong word

when I watch Khan i feel if he was more selective with his punches he would be more effective.

[Quality Control]

power was the wrong word

when I watch Khan i feel if he was more selective with his punches he would be more effective.

that's true

i pin that down to his pathetic ring smarts

[THOR!]

They are really building him up pre-fight

like every Khan opponent he is "Khan's biggest test to date" (what about the guy knocked him the fuck out in 5.8 seconds!?) and they are constantly reminding us of all Barrera's great feats, while failing to mention they were years ago and at least 2 weight divisions lower than lightweight

Barrera hasn't performed well in the ring for 5 years, where are they getting that from?

[Quality Control]

Barrera hasn't performed well in the ring for 5 years, where are they getting that from?

to be fair he gave JMM a run for his money in 07

[THOR!]

You know what I mean though.

Seems to me like they are trying to hype Khan up by turning a mole hill into a mountain (lost for better words).

[Jameson Est. 1780]

Khan is a prime example of today's Simon Cowell/Frank Warren manufactured X-Factor career boxers

His whole career thus far has been designed to make him seem as talented as possible without ever having to face a quality opponent - another Calzaghe in the making

This fight is a prime example of what Calzaghe did his whole career - fight washed up legends so that when people look at his record he's beaten Hopkins & Jones Jr etc.

Barrera is a classic case of the boxer who couldn't walk away, but IMO if Barrera comes into this fight highly conditioned, and maybe hoping to put on a performance for one last time, then he will win. I hope he does, for boxing's sake tbh

[Quality Control]

that's unfair on Calzaghe. His career was hindered by Warren for a while somewhat but his resume is respectable

Bernard Hopkins was at the time top 5 pound-for-pound rated and rightly so, and has even gone on to beat Pavlik and move up to top 3 pound-for-pound... That win alone proves Calzaghe's class. And he hardly waited until Hopkins was "past-it" - he tried to make the fight in 2002 but Hopkins pulled out at the last minute

but then you can add onto to that Kessler - another undoubtedly elite fighter who Calzaghe beat (and snatched his 'O')... There's Jeff Lacy who, rather than being a washed up legend, was a seemingly dangerous prospect... There's Eubank, he was a bit old too, but it was Calzaghe's first title fight and step up, and Eubank looked relatively sharp for his age and was coming off back to back KO wins and a close fight with Steve Collins (who ducked Calzaghe btw)

Calzaghe beat Reid who was a dangerous fighter (despite Reid actually avoiding Joe like the plague for a few years), he beat Omar Sheika who was coming in off the back of a W over Glen Johnson

his SMW title defenses are comparable to Hopkins' in fact. full of solid fighters but lacking the glamourous names, until the end where he beat Lacy and Kessler (and Hopkins beat Trinidad and De La Hoya)

Roy Jones fight was of course just for the money and event

[kossa]

ive seen amir kahn box since ameuter and his chin cannot take a punch until he learn to take one there i cant see him progressing much in his career

[Alfie]

ive seen amir kahn box since ameuter and his chin cannot take a punch until he learn to take one there i cant see him progressing much in his career

Amatuer is about scoring points you don't need a chin as such

Proffesional is a different ball game

[kossa]

^^^^^^^^thats what im saying pro is alot tougher then am and he hasnt stepped up to the plate yet and i dont think he will

[Quality Control]

same thing with DeGale

he won't make it

[Jay05]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7917177.stm

Froch v Taylor

I didnt think the fight would happen

Big chance for Froch, think Taylor will be too good for him. Froch has a chance if he can ruffle him though.

[Jay05]

same thing with DeGale

he won't make it

Degale will never win a proper belt

He should make the most of the hype and cash in

[Quality Control]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7917177.stm

Froch v Taylor

I didnt think the fight would happen

Big chance for Froch, think Taylor will be too good for him. Froch has a chance if he can ruffle him though.
Yeah I do think Froch has a chance even though I don't rate him that highly, anyone with a granite chin + knockout punch combination will be a tough fight

If Taylor sticks to his jab, shows some lateral movement, and puts in some work to the body he should be alright though


Degale will never win a proper belt

He should make the most of the hype and cash in

He's with Warren so I'm sure he'll be set-up for life by the time he's proven to be not good enough

[grime07]

I think it'll be a tough fight

[Quality Control]

Degale will make it, trust.

what makes you think that

i did hear the other day that he's looking like a bigger puncher than people thought though

[Xtra P]

Im no expert but Degale looks like a considered type of fighter, he won't wow the crowds but he gets the job done

[Xtra P]

What are man sayin for the Khan fight?

[rsl1988]

whats time is khans fight scheduled for ?

[Jay05]

What are man sayin for the Khan fight?

all depends on Barrera and if Khan really has improved his defence

Barrera used to fight at featherweight so he is giving some height and reach to khan but he was bang on the weight limit,

Im still not sure, but wud like to Barrera take Khan apart.

[Quality Control]

Khan gameplan looked much improved, and he seemed to be fighting a lot smarter, a lot more like an actual top level pro

however he seems to have sacrificed a lot of power... he was arm punching a lot too, due to his need to protect his chin at all times i imagine

and he still got rocked (and stuck his arms up in the air lol, he's trying to be Pacman now)

the fight played out pretty much how i predicted, and Barrera was clearly lacking any sort of edge

Khan's best win and i suppose it's not bad for a fighter of his stature (his real boxing stature, not his british media hype), i would still like to see him rematch Precott though... I do think he could win that

[Burden Durden]

was not expecting enzo to get beat

he looked in good shape compared to when he fought haye, when he looked like he had been dieting on burgers and milkshakes

20/1 for that ola afolabi to win, i shudda put a little suttin on:angry:

[Alfie]

1/20 for Enzo was fucked lol

[Jay05]

Khan looked more technical, but he wont be able to fight like that for 12 rounds against some1 who is in shape and is closer to his size.

His chin wasnt tested, but he seemed almost overly weary about getting caught.

He should at least get a shot at a title with Pacman leaving the weight behind for now.

Will Marquez go up weight again for a big fight? if he was too the division is gonna be wide open.

[Quality Control]

Khan looked more technical, but he wont be able to fight like that for 12 rounds against some1 who is in shape and is closer to his size.

His chin wasnt tested, but he seemed almost overly weary about getting caught.

He should at least get a shot at a title with Pacman leaving the weight behind for now.

Will Marquez go up weight again for a big fight? if he was too the division is gonna be wide open.
yeah JMM's as good as gone since Hatton, Mayweather and Pacquiao all expressed an interest in fighting him at 140lb

i think it'll be one weight class too high for him unfortunately though

Warren is likely gonna feed Khan a bum or two then get him a shot at the vacant WBO... no idea who it'll be against... i imagine Juan Diaz would fancy recapturing that but i know Warren'd find a way to avoid that fight

will probably be against Julio Diaz, David Diaz, Katsidis, Alex Arthur, or someone of that standard

[Quality Control]

pay attention to the lightweight tourney, alot of potential Khan opponents

[Jay05]

pay attention to the lightweight tourney, alot of potential Khan opponents

what site u use to keep up to date with boxing?

[Quality Control]

various ones

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php is very good though... has a forum but that's mostly air, the front page has everything you need, schedules, articles etc

worldboxingvideoarchive.com for downloading fights, or tc-boxing.com

boxrec has everything

good englisg TV schedule for boxing, and all sports http://www.livesportontv.com/boxing

i got a lot of bookmarks, those are the main ones besides the obvious bbc/espn and whatever... the rest are mostly to do with boxing history more than current happenings

[Jay05]

various ones

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php is very good though... has a forum but that's mostly air, the front page has everything you need, schedules, articles etc

worldboxingvideoarchive.com for downloading fights, or tc-boxing.com

boxrec has everything

good englisg TV schedule for boxing, and all sports http://www.livesportontv.com/boxing

i got a lot of bookmarks, those are the main ones besides the obvious bbc/espn and whatever... the rest are mostly to do with boxing history more than current happenings

yeah i have used boxing scene b4 but the layout is shit and i cant read it for long.

boxrec looks alright will start to use that.

[Quality Control]

eastsideboxing is the one buncey always shouts out but i've never really checked it

[Jay05]

Just found these. A collection of Ali fights, checked some of the links and they are working.

May 20th 1960
Cassius Clay vs. Alan Hudson, engl.(Ali hims!) 1.09 Min., 4 MB.wmv
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HB533HDC

February 10th 1962
Cassius Clay vs. Sonny Banks, dt. 10.21 Min. 48 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WAZ52O0M

May 19th 1962
Cassius Clay vs. Billy Daniels., kor. 8.36 Min. 25 MB.mpg
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5HR644P4

November 15th 1962
Cassius Clay vs. Archie Moore, kor. 7.07 Min, 20 MB.wmv
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FJ9ZV6EP

June 18th 1963
Henry Cooper vs. Cassius Clay, engl. 10.36 Min. 112 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9CWQH8XR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ARR1LEVC

February 25th 1964
Sonny Liston vs. Cassius Clay, engl., 35.18 Min. 206 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W1LYM7HX
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4GGXDA3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6Y3VQVXL

May 21 1965
Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston II., 9.01 Min. 40.5 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5YYZXCQX

November 22nd 1965
Muhammad Ali vs. Floyd Patterson, dt. 51.07 Min. 240 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=999XAL6L
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T4K9KRON
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T8AZJ31E

August 6th 1966
Muhammad Ali vs. Brian London, engl. 0.40 Min. 5MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LNIX6AQ2

September 10th 1966
Ali vs. Karl Mildenberger.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BTXHT6H9
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RD9C1RPA
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M49K5N18

February 6th 1967
Muhammad Ali vs. Ernie Terrell, engl. 43.56 Min. 226 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0F0I5C6Y
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PRVDUK9W
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=37TFD6JD

March 22nd 1967
Muhammad Ali vs. Zora Folley, engl. 1.28 Min. 10.4 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7CBTPPWG

October 27th 1970
Muhammad Ali vs Jerry Quarry I, dt. 13.09 Min. 206 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=54O0JO9K
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T3QHXC2F
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YP5V51X3

March 8th 1971
Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali 246MB 1-05-35_Std_en.wmv
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9Z7UX4MA
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FXFH1NLB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=29YH0TYD

July 26th 1971
Muhammad Ali vs. Jimmy Ellis, engl. 0.30 Min. 3.67 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3N9HMVK0

June 27th 1972
Muhammad Ali vs. Jerry Quarry II, kor. 10.41 Min. 30.8 MB.wmv
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=REHQDZ7R

January 1st 1974
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier (2Nd).avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K3BZ0B0J
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8U45JW0A
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NEOJF2FZ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NZEAXVXG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HL9Z3PIJ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YVYUDACU
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8MDNLJ4A
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S4NO74NF

June 30th 1975
Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Bugner II.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D23DIA56
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2KAFVWVV

May 16th 1975
Muhammad Ali vs. Ron Lyle 247 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E8N8TWHQ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CUGHKOMJ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5PKFSH7A

March 24th 1975
Muhammad Ali vs. Chuck Wepner, engl. 57.10 Min. 207 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NCP4RPFH
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QL7WOVJ8
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OPM3U1K1

February 20th 1976
Muhammad Ali vs. Jean-Pierre Coopman, fl.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ECK2CJBI

September 28th 1976
Muhammad Ali vs. Ken Norton III 41.11 Min. 233 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1HEC37KJ
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N2HV0KAB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U6ZCPYE6

September 15th 1978
Leon Spinks vs. Muhammad Ali 70 MB.avi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EFV7C10E
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Ali vs Norton 1 and 2

Ali-Norton.1
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EY0Z8WQ0
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SUUDNHYH
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J4LQOTFW
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LI0YDPT6
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AM77447T

Norton.Ali.2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PLC0AB4K
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7QAP0AYN
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5GNNGDKU
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LMID75P5

George Foreman vs Muhammad Ali - Rumble in the Jungle
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XSNYE8OW
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SM399OWL

Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier III- Thrilla in Manila
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4NH86D6O

[Jay05]

Thread is quiet without QC

Khan got his title shot at light welterweight

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7989987.stm

Surprised he decided to go up in weight?

Can imagine him winning and then returning to Lightweight

[Quality Control]

safe choice really. though i much prefer this match up to some of the other proposed ones

knew he wouldn't be around at lightweight long, considering his size and the amount of dangerous fighters down there

probably setting up a mega Hatton retirement fight

and who knows, maybe Khan's chin'll improve at 140

[Quality Control]

you man hear about Cotto beating up his uncle/trainer? lol

[Tony Starks]

you man hear about Cotto beating up his uncle/trainer? lol
Lol source?

[Jay05]

Lol source?

http://www.boxingscene.com/index.php?m=show&id=19345

[Quality Control]

his uncle dashed a block of concrete at his head, can just imagine Cotto having war flashbacks to the Margarito fight at that moment

[Jay05]

safe choice really. though i much prefer this match up to some of the other proposed ones

knew he wouldn't be around at lightweight long, considering his size and the amount of dangerous fighters down there

probably setting up a mega Hatton retirement fight

and who knows, maybe Khan's chin'll improve at 140

I would of thought he might step down to fight for a lightweight belt if he wins

Cant see him holding a welterweight belt for long

[Quality Control]

I would of thought he might step down to fight for a lightweight belt if he wins

Cant see him holding a welterweight belt for long

well if you think about it, there's no way he's gonna fight Pacquiao, Marquez, Ortiz, Bradley, Torres, Campbell or Witter... so the division already looks a whole lot safer than lightweight

Malignaggi, Holt, Urango, Kotlenik and Ngoudjo is a pretty boring and weak line-up. Though I reckon Holt could take Khan. A left hook like the one he put Bradley down with would probably shatter Khan's whole skeleton...

at lightweight, what's he really gonna do with Juan Diaz and Edwin Valero looking to fight absolutely everyone and anyone on their way towards a belt. There's no way Warren lets Khan in with either of them

and I'm sure Prescott will come up to 140lbs for the rematch. He already fights there half the time

I reckon once Hatton has finished his business with Pacman, Marquez, De La Hoya and Mayweather he'll want Khan for a huge retirement fight in England

[Jay05]

Khan game plan looked very simple and abit jilted last time. I think he will lose although it might be close.

[Quality Control]

Kotelnik looks solid fundamentally but unextraordinary in ever way

Not a hard hitter either

I favour Khan

[Alfie]

I still think a fucked Hatton would take Khan

[Quality Control]

I still think a fucked Hatton would take Khan

he should be able to. he has the power to turn Khan's lights out and he's quick at getting on the inside

i doubt Khan would enjoy all the clinching, hitting and holding and ginger head rubbing against his face either

[Quality Control]

Paul Williams v Winky Wright tonight

not on Setanta so it's stream business

hard one to predict... i reckon Paul Williams'll win a Taylor v Hopkins-esque decision based on workrate

[Jay05]

Paul Williams v Winky Wright tonight

not on Setanta so it's stream business

hard one to predict... i reckon Paul Williams'll win a Taylor v Hopkins-esque decision based on workrate

prob gonna be up till 3 at least

post a decent stream if you find one

myp2p hasnt been great for boxing streams when i have used it

[Quality Control]

prob gonna be up till 3 at least

post a decent stream if you find one

myp2p hasnt been great for boxing streams when i have used it

gotta root through justin.tv to find good streams really. sportinwood2's streams are always quality, but he tends to avoid the big fights so as not to piss off HBO

it'll probably be 5am before it's over lol. minor though, i'm up until 5 every day

[Razmataz]

that commonwealth fight on itv4 just then was a very good match up, dont think he should have taken the title when it was so close though

[Quality Control]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sw8765309
password: horsefucker

you're welcome.

[Quality Control]

good fight man, williams 2 rounds up

nice stream too

[Quality Control]

30-27 Williams.

[Quality Control]

this is a good fight

winky is sitting down on his punches more than usual, but william's work rate is too much

[Quality Control]

Williams wins by lop-sided decision

fight was actually a good watch though

[Famous?]

didn't stay up to watch, was shattered...i got links to episode 1 of hatton pacquiao 24/7 though...PM for more....anyone seen that Tyson documentary that just came out on DVD? It's pretty good....

[Jay05]

Only made it until 4 last night before i fell asleep

Tyson documentary is worth a watch, the part where they split screens and voice overs when he contradicts himself was a good way to make the point

[Jay05]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7995665.stm

Taylor v Froch not being shown on british tv.

I know neither of them are big names but its a shame as the fight should be on tv.

[Quality Control]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7995665.stm

Taylor v Froch not being shown on british tv.

I know neither of them are big names but its a shame as the fight should be on tv.

apparently he was demanding that he recieve equal or more than what Calzaghe did for the Jones Jr. fight

the guy is deluded, and his hatred for Calzaghe is homo

i'm glad Setanta told him to "get tha fuck outta hea" and i hope Taylor beats him senseless

[Jay05]

apparently he was demanding that he recieve equal or more than what Calzaghe did for the Jones Jr. fight

the guy is deluded, and his hatred for Calzaghe is homo

i'm glad Setanta told him to "get tha fuck outta hea" and i hope Taylor beats him senseless

Jokes

if that is what happened then i retract my original statement.

It all seems strange. This fight would help him expand his fanbase and so on.

[Quality Control]

Jokes

if that is what happened then i retract my original statement.

It all seems strange. This fight would help him expand his fanbase and so on.

it's a shame ITV won't show it the next day at like 10pm or something really, i would like to see the fight, and now i'm gonna have to be squinting at a shitty stream at 5am, but the guy got what he deserved if the rumours are indeed true (which i imagine they must be, for a british world champ fighting a top american star to not be televised)

[Alfie]

it's a shame ITV won't show it the next day at like 10pm or something really, i would like to see the fight, and now i'm gonna have to be squinting at a shitty stream at 5am, but the guy got what he deserved if the rumours are indeed true (which i imagine they must be, for a british world champ fighting a top american star to not be televised)

lol i remember u negged me about my froch dp before

he's been awfully selfish with this fight tbh
IMO i think he knows he hasn't got a strong chance and is tryna cash in but fucked it up

If BBC didnt love up amateur they'd probs cough up

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lol i remember u negged me about my froch dp before
dp?


he's been awfully selfish with this fight tbh
IMO i think he knows he hasn't got a strong chance and is tryna cash in but fucked it up

If BBC didnt love up amateur they'd probs cough up
i think he has a fair chance... Jermaine is not the same guy who beat Joppy and Hopkins anymore imo

and Froch has a very solid chin and a decent punch, so he should be able to make a fight out of it

Taylor should win though... needs to show more lateral movement than he did in the Pavlik fights and pump out that piston jab more often though

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Cotto v Pacquiao after Hatton v Pacquiao probably

thoughts?

[Alfie]

DP - Thinking im on MSN

I mean Avi lol

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that's next weekend init

apparently they are selling an official stream, which will be good quality i imagine

but you'd be mad to pay a tenner when justin.tv is a URL away

[Alfie]

Hopefully my VGA cable comes in time so i can watch it on my tv

[Mister Lacey]

You think Haye will win?

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You think Haye will win?

near 50/50 fight imo

i favour Wlad slightly though

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http://www.sporcle.com/games/boxing_heavyweight.php

cool trivia game

test your knowledge

i missed nuff 80s guys

http://i39.tinypic.com/2u9ipaa.jpg

good score though :crown:

one guy who won and lost the title in 06 left me baffed

[Jay05]

You got 69 out of 113 heavyweight boxing champions.

Mine all came in bunches around fighters I have taken an interest in.

Missed a few I should of got, particularly the eastern europeans recently. Also post Ali and pre Tyson was shocking.

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yeah most of my blanks came from the 80s

and some real obscure guys who i'd never have got in a million years

[Jay05]

yeah most of my blanks came from the 80s

and some real obscure guys who i'd never have got in a million years

You can see the percentage each fighter got.

James Bonecrusher Smith and Riddick Bowe were the 2 most obvious ones I missed

[Famous?]

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19501

[daspecimen]

i'm leaning towards haye for the wlad fight. think he's smash him twice and then the real fight is him vs vitali!

anyone been watching hatton/pac man 24/7?

[Famous?]

^^yeah watched the second episode yesterday, the bit with floyd was hilarious lol

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http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=19501

be a cool fight

i expect Mayweather will win though

i wanna see if Marquez can tag him cleanly

[Famous?]

Yeah i would still fancy Floyd regardless of the time off he's had but I do reckon Marquez has a chance...

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Yeah i would still fancy Floyd regardless of the time off he's had but I do reckon Marquez has a chance...

JMM is being unfairly overlooked because he's moving up in weight... but i think that's nonsense really

Floyd isn't one of these guys who rehydrates to 160+lbs... if the fight is at WW Floyd'll likely be around 150lbs on the night, and Marquez about 145... so it's not a big difference really

JMM has amazing accuracy and he's great at picking his shots, so i think he'll be tagging Floyd a lot more frequently and cleanly than most can

however he gets hit quite often these days and i doubt he can put Floyd down, so i see money May taking over in the latter stages, securing a UD

[daspecimen]

If Floyd is treating JMM as a warm up fight then boy. I still need to see Marquez/Diaz from the other weak but thats some confidence right there.

Will be a cracker if it gets the go ahead

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If Floyd is treating JMM as a warm up fight then boy. I still need to see Marquez/Diaz from the other weak but thats some confidence right there.

Will be a cracker if it gets the go ahead

Marquez/Diaz was a great fight but, KO aside, Marquez didn't actually look much the better man

he got hit too often, it's the type of fight that can take something out of you imo. in fact i'm surprised no one has considered that yet

fair enough Diaz is a really good fighter though

[Diss04]

is the Marquez/Mayweather fight official then?

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is the Marquez/Mayweather fight official then?

all but.

they are still negotiating a weight... it'll probably end up at 147lbs but JMM's camp understandably want it at light welter or a catchweight of like 144lbs

[Diss04]

all but.

they are still negotiating a weight... it'll probably end up at 147lbs but JMM's camp understandably want it at light welter or a catchweight of like 144lbs

sweet should be a massive fight. they're both awesome fighters. interested to see whether mayweather is a bit rusty though after his "retirement"

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sweet should be a massive fight. they're both awesome fighters. interested to see whether mayweather is a bit rusty though after his "retirement"

yeah... VERY interested on how age and a long lay off will effect Mayweather

it could really go two completely opposite ways: he could be like Jones Jr, who fell so far after losing a split second reflexes or he could be like B-Hop who's so crafty and ring intelligent he can perform at a top level till he's 40

imo, this fight should be bigger than Hatton v Pacquiao...
Mayweather > Hatton and Marquez > Pacquiao

[Diss04]

yeah... VERY interested on how age and a long lay off will effect Mayweather

it could really go two completely opposite ways: he could be like Jones Jr, who fell so far after losing a split second reflexes or he could be like B-Hop who's so crafty and ring intelligent he can perform at a top level till he's 40

imo, this fight should be bigger than Hatton v Pacquiao...
Mayweather > Hatton and Marquez > Pacquiao

i'd agree that this is the bigger fight but everyone will get behind ricky like they usually do. he's so massively overrated it enfuriates me lol

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i'd agree that this is the bigger fight but everyone will get behind ricky like they usually do. he's so massively overrated it enfuriates me lol

yeah i really don't like Hatton either

he's just as much a product of media hype/clever promotion as Amir Khan

the majority of his career is smoke and mirrors as far as i'm concerned

i believe this will be proved beyond all doubt against Pacman (as the Mayweather fight wasn't enough for some people i guess)

[Jay05]

yeah i really don't like Hatton either

he's just as much a product of media hype/clever promotion as Amir Khan

the majority of his career is smoke and mirrors as far as i'm concerned

i believe this will be proved beyond all doubt against Pacman (as the Mayweather fight wasn't enough for some people i guess)

Hatton is over rated by the british media, but his record isnt bad. While he has been lucky to survive several fights he has been a World Champ at 2 weights and took a fight with pacman.

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Hatton is over rated by the british media, but his record isnt bad. While he has been lucky to survive several fights he has been a World Champ at 2 weights and took a fight with pacman.

his record is a bit shit for someone who's supposedly a lineal champ and has "dominated" an entire division

an old Kostya Tszyu, a devastating knock out loss to Mayweather and, what? a win over Urango? Maussa?

Hatton is a solid pro who's status has been elevated because of his marketability

[Jay05]

Since he beat Kostya Tszyu he has fought 7 times.

Maussa, Collazo, Urango and Castillo were all to win belts. Lazcano was just a comeback fight and Malignaggi was a fraud but was the obvious choice to take.

He was taken to school by Mayweather but he is arguably the best fighter of his generation.

He may receive a lot of hype but he can back most of it up.

[Famous?]

Anyone hear about Kirkland..that's a par, looking like he's going to miss the undercard fight on Hatton-Pacman...i was looking forward to watching that as well

[THOR!]

When is the fight? May 2nd?

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Since he beat Kostya Tszyu he has fought 7 times.

Maussa, Collazo, Urango and Castillo were all to win belts. Lazcano was just a comeback fight and Malignaggi was a fraud but was the obvious choice to take.

He was taken to school by Mayweather but he is arguably the best fighter of his generation.

He may receive a lot of hype but he can back most of it up.
his hype far exceeds his ability

Maussa??? almost getting KO'd against a WW gatekeeper in Collazo??? Urango??? a Castillo who was almost on his death bed!!?? looking shit against a shot, lightweight journeyman in Lazcano???

Malignaggi is the best win of the lot, and that's amazing for someone as highly regarded as Hatton

even Kostya Tszyu was past it

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Anyone hear about Kirkland..that's a par, looking like he's going to miss the undercard fight on Hatton-Pacman...i was looking forward to watching that as well
ike ibeabuchi all over again


When is the fight? May 2nd?
yeah.

[THOR!]

ike ibeabuchi all over again


yeah.

Fantastic, me, my TV, an alcoholic beverage of some description, a take away and possibly an associate or two.

[Famous?]

ike ibeabuchi all over again

wow, didn't know about this guy, tbh i've only recently started getting properly into boxing, does look like Kirkland could go the same route unless he gets his act together

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kirkland ain't as good though

pwill would school him

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i suggest you watch Tua v Ibeabuchi... great fight

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Froch v Taylor finally confirmed for TV

will be shown the next day (Sunday) at 8:30pm on ITV4 and like 11:30pm on ITV1

will be watching it live on a stream myself though

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Setanta are showing the Juanma Lopez v Penalosa bout too

edit: but only a replay tomorrow, not live

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Appleby looked shit!

Lindsey is an awkward motherfucker though

[Keyser Söze]

QC what time is the Carl Froch v Jermain Taylor fight on ???

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QC what time is the Carl Froch v Jermain Taylor fight on ???

i imagine either 3am or 4am

you'll have to buy (http://www.omnisport.tv/page/FrochVTaylor?WT.mc_id=Afflivefight) or find a stream though as it's not on TV

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http://www.justin.tv/unknowtnalockdown
http://www.justin.tv/sportinwood2

Taylor/Froch

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holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!! what a fight!!!!!

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what a finish...

i won't spoil it for you man watching this on ITV Sunday (make sure you DO watch it)

[Sinko]

lol @ taylor throwing about 20 punches in 6 rounds

great finish but I can't see froch hanging with kessler on this showing

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lol @ taylor throwing about 20 punches in 6 rounds

great finish but I can't see froch hanging with kessler on this showing


Kessler is a bad style match-up for him. But then again, I'm not convinced Kessler can take a punch, and he's quite robotic and methodical (predictable) so he could get caught and knocked out

Pavlik v Froch would be war, Froch would knock him out imo

P.S.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sddadsadads

Penalosa/Lopez

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Penalosa is a true warrior :ohmy:

[Mister Lacey]

Watching the Froch fight now.
But man Im hype Im taking a road trip to Vegas May 2nd.

[Keyser Söze]

Carl Froch v Jermain Taylor was a sick fight !!!!!!

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JuanMa Lopez looks like the real deal

maybe not as powerful as i thought though

[Alfie]

Andre Ward for the winner? (Yes i know who won)

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Andre Ward for the winner? (Yes i know who won)

i would think maybe Allan Green could be next. Ward is possible i suppose, but Miranda could beat him

and then the winner of the Andrade/Bute rematch

and then hopefully Kessler will stop fighting bums and get the ring with the last man standing of the aforementioned

[Breathe Beats]

fucking badman

[Quality Control]

What are you man saying about the Pacquiao/Hatton fight then?

Get your predictions in so you can say I told you so if you're right or be laughed at it if you're wrong

I got Pacquiao by substantial victory. Very possibly (T)KO'ing the Manc. Hatton will be rushing in, clinching, hitting and holding, making it awkward for Pacman, but at the same time he will be getting cut up and battered by 1-2s and left straights in the middle distance before he reaches his target... This'll take it's toll on him and i expect he'll be out on his feet by the 10th. Maybe he'll survive the onslaught, maybe he won't.

I expect the fight will be scrappy if Ricky wants any chance at winning, and maybe quite ugly and unpleasant to watch, which a lot of people aren't counting on it seems. However once Pacquiao gets down to business it should be a fun massacre

[Mister Lacey]

I'm going to Vegas Saturday to feel the atmosphere and watch the fight, I'm saying Hatton by K.O in the 9th or 10th.

[Famous?]

Pac-man tko.....round 9

[Mister Lacey]

QC true say I'm not too knowledged on boxing I just like watching good fights but what do you think of this article?


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/111730-manny-pacquiao-warrior-cult-favourite-but-vastly-overrated

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I'm going to Vegas Saturday to feel the atmosphere and watch the fight, I'm saying Hatton by K.O in the 9th or 10th.

lucky guy

i read something like 20 thousand brits'll be over there

will be a madness i'm sure

but it gonna be one depressing place once Hatton leaves the ring on a stretcher

edit: gimme a sec i'll read the article.

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QC true say I'm not too knowledged on boxing I just like watching good fights but what do you think of this article?


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/111730-manny-pacquiao-warrior-cult-favourite-but-vastly-overrated

Yeah it's stuff that I've heard brought up on numerous occasions and I even bring it up myself sometimes.

However the author is overstating his case somewhat.

For example, Pacquiao's resume. Yes, it can be picked apart and wins discredited, but so can any boxer's all the way up to Sugar Ray Robinson.

Morales was shot in the rematches, sure. Marquez has a legit claim to have beaten Pacquiao twice, true. Oscar De La Hoya was essentially a corpse, true again.

But despite all this it's still one of the best resumes in boxing currently. He beat a prime Barrera while he was on top of the world, if that isn't a affirmation of greatness, what is? He fought and scraped a win against Juan Manuel Marquez, another one of Mexico's greats and a brilliant technician. He crushed Solis, he crushed Diaz. Etc.

And he hasn't just risen through the weight divisions, he's captured titles in them. If you can make weight, you can fight in the division... Height is irrelevent (see Caballero fighting at Super Bantamweight currently while being 5'11"). He's captured, I believe, off the top of my head, an equal amount of titles in different weight classes as Floyd Mayweather Jr. and one less than Oscar De La Hoya

I notice the author seems to hold Pacman to a double standard with the age/weight thing also, discrediting his achievements but attacking him for his early losses and draws.

If you've taken hope for Hatton's chances from this article I think maybe you might be getting ahead of yourself. Hatton's resume is about 10 times weaker than Pac's and even easier to pick apart (his best win being a 35 year old Tszyu who retired for good immediately afterwards - AND Hatton's tactics were questionable and largely illegal). Hatton lacks any kind of ability to move up in weightclass, seeing as he loses his only advantage of being able to maul opponents into submission, and he has tiny T-Rex arms. The only person Hatton has ever faced who is anywhere near Pacquiao's level is Floyd Mayweather, and we all know how that ended.

Hatton certainly can win, anything can happen in boxing. But the odds are stacked against him, in my opinion.

[Mister Lacey]

Ah like I say I don't know much about boxing I just wanna see a good fight.
Im kind of excited by the Haye fight too.

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Ah like I say I don't know much about boxing I just wanna see a good fight.
Im kind of excited by the Haye fight too.

The Haye fight is a real genuine pick 'em that can and should end in fireworks. That'll be a great fight. Some real contempt for each other too, which always makes it better.

[gk*]

The Haye fight is a real genuine pick 'em that can and should end in fireworks. That'll be a great fight. Some real contempt for each other too, which always makes it better.

Klitschko should win, simply because of his size, but I've got a real feeling about Haye in this one. I think he'll be too fast and if he can keep the work rate up he'll make Klitschko look cumbersome and mechanical. I have a little concern though. When he was ringside at the Appleby fight at the weekend he looked like he'd put on a lot of bulk. I just hope he's not gone too big, but even if he loses half his pace he'll still be quicker than Klitschko.

I am going for Hatton this weekend. I have a feeling he'll be too strong for Pacman, although I am a bit worried about him refusing to go out to America for a 10-week training camp.

By the way, I wasn't on the site for a long time until yesterday, so it's good to see there's a permanent boxing thread.

[gk*]

i suggest you watch Tua v Ibeabuchi... great fight

My memory is fading fast, but I am trying to remember which fight Tua knocked his opponent out, but hit him so hard he also broke the guy's ankle. If my memory serves me right, the guy came to with his foot pointing in the wrong direction!

I've been going through a few old fight DVDs recently and a classic, classic fight (well worth watching on YouTube) that I've watched twice in the past week is Michael Gomez's win over Alex Arthur. Absolutely incredible. Probably the best British title bout I can remember.

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Klitschko should win, simply because of his size, but I've got a real feeling about Haye in this one. I think he'll be too fast and if he can keep the work rate up he'll make Klitschko look cumbersome and mechanical. I have a little concern though. When he was ringside at the Appleby fight at the weekend he looked like he'd put on a lot of bulk. I just hope he's not gone too big, but even if he loses half his pace he'll still be quicker than Klitschko.
i think all previous stats and records go out the window in the Haye/Klitschko fight and it comes down to who can hit the other on the chin first... they're both as fragile as ornamental china


My memory is fading fast, but I am trying to remember which fight Tua knocked his opponent out, but hit him so hard he also broke the guy's ankle. If my memory serves me right, the guy came to with his foot pointing in the wrong direction!
i'm not sure. i can think of that happening when Grant fought McCline

if you're sure it was Tua maybe it was against Moorer?


I've been going through a few old fight DVDs recently and a classic, classic fight (well worth watching on YouTube) that I've watched twice in the past week is Michael Gomez's win over Alex Arthur. Absolutely incredible. Probably the best British title bout I can remember.
yeah, that ruined Arthur imo. never looked quite the same since


By the way, I wasn't on the site for a long time until yesterday, so it's good to see there's a permanent boxing thread.
yeah well i got tired of making threads that got 2 replies at most and now us few dedicated boxing heads have found refuge in here

btw you been following Gamboa? my prediction is coming true(ish).... he's got his first big test coming up with a Caballero fight penned, though he has been fighting at a high level for a prospect already

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QC what are your thoughts on Haye as a legitimate heavyweight given his size and chin? I'm hoping he comes through as the division needs some sort of personality.

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QC what are your thoughts on Haye as a legitimate heavyweight given his size and chin? I'm hoping he comes through as the division needs some sort of personality.

I think he'll be fine size-wise. He was always a big cruiser anyway

The chin could definitely be a problem, but then again the division is weak right now and I can't picture many fighters who could capitalise on it. If he were fighting in a different era, like say early-mid '90s he would take a battering from a few of the top guys, but right now I reckon he could well beat the #1 ranked heavyweight, which says it all really

Wlad's chin is hardly Holyfield status and he has dominated the division

He's mos def a breath of fresh air in the divison... It's been very stale recently

Now with Haye bursting onto the scene, Vitali, the more exciting brother, returning, Arreola making waves, Povetkin about a year away from becoming a real force to be reckoned with and Dimitrenko suddenly looking like a more formidable prospect I think the bust may be on the verge of ending... At least in terms of excitement if not talent

[gk*]

QC, I am now doubting if it was Tua after all, but I am sure it was.... Will need to trawl through my memory (and my old Boxing Monthlys).

Arthur has never been the same since that fight and it took a lot of Michael Gomez as well. I love that fight, probably my favourite under-dog victory - certainly at UK level. Gomez also still ranks as one of my favourite fighters.

I've been keeping an eye on Gamboa, but it'll be interesting to see how he does in his next fight. His speed is blinding though.

By the way, if you are in the London area, watch out for fights involving Yassine El Maachi - http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=63509&cat=boxer

Ignore his record and go on YouTube to watch him destroy Kevin Concepcion. I've also watched him take apart two guys in the flesh - one of which was highly rated. There have been a lot of factors holding him back in his career (it's a pretty sad story to be honest) but he's entertaining and has real talent. He also has good people behind him now and, if he gets a fair crack of the whip, will easily win a British title.

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Arthur has never been the same since that fight and it took a lot of Michael Gomez as well. I love that fight, probably my favourite under-dog victory - certainly at UK level. Gomez also still ranks as one of my favourite fighters.

I've been keeping an eye on Gamboa, but it'll be interesting to see how he does in his next fight. His speed is blinding though.
yeah people had already written off Gomez by then hadn't they? boxing took it's toll on him at a pretty young age

Caballero could win, he's something of a Paul Williams-esque freak. He is moving up in weight though and Gamboa hits pretty hard himself

By the way, if you are in the London area, watch out for fights involving Yassine El Maachi - http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=63509&cat=boxer

Ignore his record and go on YouTube to watch him destroy Kevin Concepcion. I've also watched him take apart two guys in the flesh - one of which was highly rated. There have been a lot of factors holding him back in his career (it's a pretty sad story to be honest) but he's entertaining and has real talent. He also has good people behind him now and, if he gets a fair crack of the whip, will easily win a British title.
you know what, i think someone may have recommended watching this dude to me before. i know a few man from Finsbury Park too so it seems probable now i think about it

*edit* he lost to a frank warren fighter didn't he

will have to check the youtube videos out

the british LMW title is vacant right now init? after Rhodes essentially ducked Small

[quality]

Haye always said he had to watch his weight for cruiser. I'm interested to see how much he's put on since the Barrett fight.

[THOR!]

Is Hattons fight pay per view?

[Razmataz]

yeah i think its 13 quid or something riduculous, but they know people will pay it.

[Jay05]

Haye should be Wlad, but he came seriously unstuck against Carl Thompson and punched himself out.

Assuming he can throw big punches and avoid too much danger he should score a KO v Wlad.

As for Hatton V Pacman I think it could be very close. Hatton took Mayweather for 9 rounds at 147 so he has the chin for Pacman.

Also Billy Graham may have been an average trainer but he was quite clearly not teaching Ricky anything new for 3 or 4 years. Mayweather Snr should have smartened him up. I make Pacman Fav but can see a Hatton KO in the 9th or 10th winning it.

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As for Hatton V Pacman I think it could be very close. Hatton took Mayweather for 9 rounds at 147 so he has the chin for Pacman.

Also Billy Graham may have been an average trainer but he was quite clearly not teaching Ricky anything new for 3 or 4 years. Mayweather Snr should have smartened him up. I make Pacman Fav but can see a Hatton KO in the 9th or 10th winning it.
i think Pacman will deal more damage than Mayweather over the course of the fight

and i think Mayweather Snr may be compromising Hatton's style... two proverbs are appropriate: "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" and "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

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yeah i think its 13 quid or something riduculous, but they know people will pay it.

£15

not so bad compared to US prices really

they have to shell out like $50 per PPV

[gk*]

QC, he apparently vacated it rather than fight Small. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt initially and don't like to see fighters take the risk if they aren't well (particularly when they're past 30), but it doesn't look good. It seems he has his eye on a last crack at a world title and doesn't want Small derailing it.

On the Gomez-Arthur fight, he was completely written off by that point. He'd actually been written off about three times before it and even died for 48 seconds after being stabbed in a street fight. But he was like a man possessed in that fight, honestly, for those who haven't seen it, watch it on YouTube.

Speak to people about Yassine and watch out for him. His losses didn't have anything to do with the opposing manager/promoter, like I said, it's a sad story. But he's working with a great young trainer now and his only problem will be getting fights. Nobody in that division (and it's a good division) will fancy going in with him.

By the way, this is a useful site for checking what fights are coming up on TV:

http://www.livesportontv.com/boxing/

[gk*]

£15

not so bad compared to US prices really

they have to shell out like $50 per PPV

I agree, I'd easily pay £30 if it was a good fight. It's not the expense, it's the sitting up to 5am and all the additional costs that go with that.

[Jay05]

i think Pacman will deal more damage than Mayweather over the course of the fight

and i think Mayweather Snr may be compromising Hatton's style... two proverbs are appropriate: "you can't teach an old dog new tricks" and "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

I think Hatton is strong willed enough to not go too far from his style. I expect to see a better Hatton than v Mayweather or lazcano.

Pacman is still stepping up, especially as DLH wasnt a true fight. They are similar weights but DLH didnt have much of a punch. I expect Hatton to hurt him during the fight.



I agree, I'd easily pay £30 if it was a good fight. It's not the expense, it's the sitting up to 5am and all the additional costs that go with that.

I would be happy to have a few mates round, split the costs and watch it without the streaming and quality.

Used to go to a casino, but getting cabs at time of morning is hard and I have work most Sundays

[gk*]

I would be happy to have a few mates round, split the costs and watch it without the streaming and quality.

Used to go to a casino, but getting cabs at time of morning is hard and I have work most Sundays

I've got three mates that I can trust to come around to my flat, watch the fight, chip in for everything and not starting fighting amongst themselves. Maybe I am just getting old, but I look forward to the boxing nights, even if the next day's a write off.

What time is this fight due to start by the way? I was thinking around 4.30am - 5am-ish.

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I think Hatton is strong willed enough to not go too far from his style. I expect to see a better Hatton than v Mayweather or lazcano.

Pacman is still stepping up, especially as DLH wasnt a true fight. They are similar weights but DLH didnt have much of a punch. I expect Hatton to hurt him during the fight.
you're right the DLH fight proved virtually nothing, but even so, Pacman has always been big for his weight and i would say he's naturally a lightweight; which is only one division below light welter. so i dont think the size issue will play too big a part

i think Hatton's chin has been cracked since the Mayweather fight. and i know a lot of people don't agree but i also think what Mayweather Snr is doing for him is not gonna help... in fact it may even hinder him. it's diluting the style that took him to where he is


I've got three mates that I can trust to come around to my flat, watch the fight, chip in for everything and not starting fighting amongst themselves. Maybe I am just getting old, but I look forward to the boxing nights, even if the next day's a write off.

What time is this fight due to start by the way? I was thinking around 4.30am - 5am-ish.
i look forward to fight nights as well, the fact that they're at 4am makes it more of an event too

i imagine it'll start at 4am, if the undercard goes according to plan

[THOR!]

I have no other friends who like boxing. So I'm paying and staying up all on my ones. Woe is me.

[Quality Control]

I have no other friends who like boxing. So I'm paying and staying up all on my ones. Woe is me.

tbh i like watching fights alone... i like to concentrate and get into the fight without the burden of socialising. plus i get irritable at 4am

but i don't think i'll be watching this one alone

and you won't be alone, you have us :pinkface:

[THOR!]

I like shouting 'get in there my son' in a mockney accent. No point doing it without an audience.
But you're right, I have you guys. Thanks man.

[gk*]

I like shouting 'get in there my son' in a mockney accent. No point doing it without an audience.
But you're right, I have you guys. Thanks man.

You can still do that on your own mate! I can't stay in my seat when a fight's on the telly. I am not too bad at actual fights, but when I am at home I am bouncing about like a tit. I also talk to my dog like she's Barry McGuigan, expecting some deep response or further comment. You should have seen me last week in the last round of the Froch fight.

I agree with QC on this one by the way. There's one mate who's good for watching with, because he says fuck all during rounds. Normally I like to try and keep the score (in between shadow boxing and shouting).

[THOR!]

This goes deeper than boxing... I just want friends. Real ones.

[Jay05]

Warren company in administration

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8027433.stm


I would guess Warren isnt happy about paying the money to Calzaghe.

Made me chuckle

[Unknown Poster]

i think hatton will win by knock out in the 10 or he will win split decision i would be suprised if he loses

[Lew1s]

Hatton to k.o in the 3rd

qc do you/have you ever took up boxing? n/h i just wondered as you take it very serious around here lol

[Quality Control]

Hatton to k.o in the 3rd

qc do you/have you ever took up boxing? n/h i just wondered as you take it very serious around here lol

i used to for a while but haven't for well over a year

[Eagle]

hate to say it, but pac man is gonna win this one

[Mister Lacey]

I predict Hatton will knock out Manny in the 9th.

[Nine Bar]

Hope Hatton wins, ive a had a few quid on the 6/4 available.

If he dont win, i doubt theres anything left for him. Pacman is overated imo, the fact he beat a staggered looking De La Hoya dont mean hes the man.

[Quality Control]

If he dont win, i doubt theres anything left for him.

I don't know about that. He'll still have his fans and he'll still be a massive draw... tbh no one expects him to beat Pacman anyway, he's not really on that level

I'm thinking he fights the loser of Mayweather/Marquez and then retires on a British mega fight with Khan

[JACK]

what time may this start? better off staying up all night or waking up early?

btw ive got no alcohol or weed for the first option

[Quality Control]

what time may this start? better off staying up all night or waking up early?

btw ive got no alcohol or weed for the first option

around 4am

for me that's normal time to be up still

[THOR!]

around 4am

for me that's normal time to be up still

I'm on some 12am bedtime hypes at the moment. Gonna kill me.

[JACK]

around 4am

for me that's normal time to be up still


I'm on some 12am bedtime hypes at the moment. Gonna kill me.

truss, wont be one bit surprised if i pass out minutes before it kicks off

[Burden Durden]

im personally looking forward to the Danny Williams vs John Mcdermott rematch


should be fucking hilarious

[THOR!]

im personally looking forward to the Danny Williams vs John Mcdermott rematch


should be fucking hilarious

Yeah that last fight was hilarious.

[Quality Control]

Money May is officially bizzack

can't wait for July 11th... now i'm even more hype

[Famous?]

Money May is officially bizzack

can't wait for July 11th... now i'm even more hype

.

[THOR!]

I'm locked in!!! Who else is?

[Quality Control]

who's fighting now?

i don't wanna overdose, i usually just watch two undercard fights... 3 at most if there's a prospect i like

[THOR!]

Williams and McDermott rematch.

[Quality Control]

Williams and McDermott rematch.

man tit central

will have a watch for the sake of it. fuck it i payed £15

[THOR!]

haha, what's your opinion on their last beef?

[Quality Control]

haha, what's your opinion on their last beef?

i don't really remember. it was a disputed decision or something wasn't it? on some undercard

all remember is the nickname "D Cup" McDermott lol.

[THOR!]

i don't really remember. it was a disputed decision or something wasn't it? on some undercard

all remember is the nickname "D Cup" McDermott lol.

yeah Mcdermott won reaaaaally. But Williams got the decision. swag.

lol @ D cup

[Quality Control]

they should feed Williams to Rogan, so he can complete the set.

[THOR!]

they should feed Williams to Rogan, so he can complete the set.

I wanna see williams get duppied by anyone. Anyone at all.

[Quality Control]

I wanna see williams get duppied by anyone. Anyone at all.

he's finished now. i think i heard this might be his last fight regardless of result

[THOR!]

he's finished now. i think i heard this might be his last fight regardless of result

GOOD!

For some reason he really gets on my nerves.

I wanna see a lot of the fights tonight but don't wanna box myself out for the main event.

[Quality Control]

GOOD!

For some reason he really gets on my nerves.

I wanna see a lot of the fights tonight but don't wanna box myself out for the main event.

to be honest it's a weak undercard. golden boy always fuck them up

it has some pretty good names, but no good match-ups really

[THOR!]

to be honest it's a weak undercard. golden boy always fuck them up

it has some pretty good names, but no good match-ups really

Fights aren't great but I like watching some of the fighters. None seem to be as unmatched as the first fight either.

[THOR!]

I'm tired already.

[THOR!]

Nooooooooooo

[cRiminal]

http://www.justin.tv/hattonpacquiaox

[Quality Control]

http://www.justin.tv/hattonpacquiaox

justin.tv links gonna be dropping like flies tonight

HBO don't fuck around


and what was the point in televising that Jeffries fight. German man looked like he's never boxed before in his life

[THOR!]

German guy was a blatant virgin. Curling up into a ball and shit.

[Entity]

Did he actually curl up into a ball?

[Burden Durden]

http://www.justin.tv/hattonpacquiaox

repped


was looking for a stream for ages

i love spamming them chat boxes aswell lol


EDIT: manuel is gonna get his arse handed to him by mayweather

[THOR!]

ahhh good ref for Hatton.

[THOR!]

Did he actually curl up into a ball?

Every time the heat turned up he would drop his head into his arms, dropped bare times.

[THOR!]

This dude is good.

[Burden Durden]

its not fair that some fighters have huge lips and noses to cushion the blows

[Alfie]

Bantamweight is the perfect mix of speed and power

[Quality Control]

Bantamweight is the perfect mix of speed and power

welterweight >>>>

[Quality Control]

btw, we the second biggest thread in the sports room

1,300 to become #1

[THOR!]

we. can. dooooo iiiiiit!!!!

[THOR!]

Bantamweight is the perfect mix of speed and power

lacks reaaaal power.

[Quality Control]

lacks reaaaal power.

power in boxing is relative to weight to an extent (something the makers of fight night don't seem to realise)

speed too, but it looks less flashy on the big guys. they aren't as mobile or dazzling

i've always preferred the mid-low weight classes. don't get why the heavyweight division is so revered

[Alfie]

Probs due to the big 1 punch KO's

[THOR!]

power in boxing is relative to weight to an extent (something the makers of fight night don't seem to realise)

speed too, but it looks less flashy on the big guys. they aren't as mobile or dazzling

i've always preferred the mid-low weight classes. don't get why the heavyweight division is so revered

I agree 100%, there are exceptions but generally the heavier the boxer, the more powerful.

My favourite classes are welterweight and middleweight.

[Rambo]

someone hook me up with a link to the fight please?

its gonna be alot

[Alfie]

http://www.justin.tv/hattonpacquiaox

is still going strong

[Rambo]

repped

[Rambo]

what times hatton start cus i might get my head down for a couple hours

[Quality Control]

what times hatton start cus i might get my head down for a couple hours

between 1 hour and 2 hours from now

[THOR!]

between 1 hour and 2 hours from now

Bollocks! I'm struggling.

[kossa]

Bollocks! I'm struggling.

go and make a coffee with 3 spoons of coffee init

[Rambo]

safe qc

be back in a hour and a half

[THOR!]

go and make a coffee with 3 spoons of coffee init

It's not even that.

It's that I want to sleep more than I want to watch the fight.

Only thing compelling me is the £15 lol

[Pristine Condition]

I'm up @ 9, I might have to check the replays when I get back in.

[Quality Control]

safe qc

be back in a hour and a half

wait a few minutes, it could be next actually

basically i don't know lol.

edit: nah, nah. two hours

[THOR!]

4am bollocks.

[Quality Control]

Hatton will NOT be pound-for-pound king if he wins!!! Stop saying it you faggots!

Marquez is waiting, and then Mayweather is waiting to take it off him!

[THOR!]

Mayweather will prevail.

[Quality Control]

Marquez'll give him a fight though

Mayweather looks quite big, which is worrying considering he's moving down in weight

[THOR!]

Marquez'll give him a fight though

Mayweather looks quite big, which is worrying considering he's moving down in weight

Haven't seen him. I missed the revelation. Anything online on him?

[kossa]

Hatton will NOT be pound-for-pound king if he wins!!! Stop saying it you faggots!

Marquez is waiting, and then Mayweather is waiting to take it off him!

yeah he aint pound for pound king cause he struggles when he fights above 10st
i think he at his best when he fights at 10st

[Quality Control]

yeah he aint pound for pound king cause he struggles when he fights above 10st
i think he at his best when he fights at 10st

and funnily enough to struggles to make weight these days

he's very limited, he can only win when he can bully his opponent

[kossa]

and funnily enough to struggles to make weight these days

he's very limited, he can only win when he can bully his opponent

i think he will suprise people tonight though

the stream went down too fuckers

[Quality Control]

Haven't seen him. I missed the revelation. Anything online on him?

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4476/att2z.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090502/capt.35026de7137641a8980b13aa2da2a663.mayweather_r eturns_boxing_nvjh104.jpg

[kossa]

http://www.justin.tv/emmatv8

another link

[Alfie]

I fucking hate any american sports commentary

[Quality Control]

jacobs is the real deal

one of my favourite prospects

[The Enigma]

http://www.justin.tv/emmatv8

another link

I got banned, for no reason. lol

Any1 got anymore pls? :)

[Alfie]

HBO are deading the streams.... Winamp time

[Alfie]

I got banned, for no reason. lol

Any1 got anymore pls? :)

Banned = Locked off

[The Enigma]

HBO are deading the streams.... Winamp time

U got a stream for winamp bruv

[Alfie]

U got a stream for winamp bruv

Gonna find one but u'll need a decoder

[Alfie]

Got a sopcast channel if anyone wants PM me

[Quality Control]

Korobov is sick!

[Alfie]

Middleweight is heating up

[Alfie]

2 fights until the main event...

Who won the Williams fight?

[kossa]

http://www.justin.tv/insigniatv


another link

[Alfie]

HBO's punch zone is sick

[AllstarParr]

is there one more fight after this one till hatton?

[Grimes]

what gwan so far