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Eric Cantona
31st August '08, 09:42 PM
Goalkeepers: David James (Portsmouth), Rob Green (West Ham United), Paul Robinson (Blackburn Rovers)

Defenders: Wayne Bridge (Chelsea), Wes Brown (Manchester United), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United), Glen Johnson (Portsmouth), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Everton), Matthew Upson (West Ham United)

Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Aston Villa), Jimmy Bullard (Fulham), Jermaine Jenas (Tottenham Hotspur), Joe Cole (Chelsea), David Bentley (Tottenham Hotspur), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough), David Beckham (LA Galaxy)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Jermain Defoe (Portsmouth), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Emile Heskey (Wigan Athletic)

JACK
31st August '08, 09:47 PM
teh national team is beyond a joke tbh

RIP Jakey
31st August '08, 10:04 PM
no owen, interesting

Seven
31st August '08, 10:06 PM
mite as well start supporting jamaica now

Xtra P
31st August '08, 10:09 PM
Capello is a
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

Eric Cantona
31st August '08, 10:11 PM
It's a good squad, Jimmy Bullard is class act, he will play well if chosen, better then Fat Frank

Xtra P
31st August '08, 10:26 PM
Wallcott but no Owen?!?

Eric Cantona
31st August '08, 10:32 PM
Owen ain't fit.

Walcott is the future.

Personally i would of had Owen still.

I would of not had Defoe or Heskey either.

'nuum general
31st August '08, 10:47 PM
glad he's picking a player whos a grafter & not a prima donna

Xtra P
31st August '08, 10:49 PM
Im an Arsenal fan & I have faith that Wallcott will become a great player but he aint ready yet, he definetly aint got shit on Owen, Owen is one of them players that apear in the right place at the right time, he's garanteed to score goals

Eric Cantona
31st August '08, 10:50 PM
Yeh i agree, doubt Walcott will start but would be good game to play him against Andorra.

Eric Cantona
31st August '08, 10:54 PM
We need more players like Chris Powell in the England team

6
31st August '08, 10:54 PM
teh national team is beyond a joke tbh

.


Btw, what's with the name change Al3x?

Jammie Dodger
31st August '08, 11:29 PM
Jimmy Bullard is a jokerrrr.

Football wise as well, he makes a good mid. Injury parred him thou.

Ryddel
31st August '08, 11:33 PM
jimmy bullard is good a lot better than Jenas plus hes got good set piece delivery i stilll shake my head everytime Beckham is picked he simply aint good enough and hasn't got the legs doesn't deliver set pieces as consistent as before

Pristine Condition
1st September '08, 12:11 AM
:laugh: @ Walcott, but no Ashton / Owen.

Cooks
1st September '08, 01:34 AM
Defoe is on fire right now
Surprised that Woodgate or Owen haven't been picked

Ryddel
1st September '08, 02:28 AM
Think Woodgate is injured

DTI
1st September '08, 09:04 AM
It's a good squad, Jimmy Bullard is class act, he will play well if chosen, better then Fat Frank

your a wanker

quality
1st September '08, 10:59 AM
Bullard is a good player. Deserves his call-up. Even as a Spurs fan, I'd rather see him play than Jenas.

No Owen, or at least Ashton, is baffling. 4 goal a season Heskey will be a real goal threat I'm sure.

Jammie Dodger
1st September '08, 12:09 PM
Wheres Agbonlahor as well ?

screwface
1st September '08, 05:37 PM
still no Agbonlahor or ashley young this team is a joke

Xtra P
1st September '08, 05:59 PM
Capello is a
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

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Hij
1st September '08, 06:11 PM
lmao
if you think capello is a donut

might as well pack up the international set up and forget entering ever again.

hes quality

Quality Control
1st September '08, 06:12 PM
i wanna see Theo Walcott, Daniel Sturridge, Michael Johnson, Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor playing for England, even as subs

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 06:13 PM
Michael Johnson is shit.

You been playing too much fm.

Quality Control
1st September '08, 06:14 PM
Michael Johnson is shit.

You been playing too much fm.
he's not shit at all (from what i've seen of him)

i dont play FM

'nuum general
1st September '08, 06:22 PM
i wanna see Theo Walcott, Daniel Sturridge, Michael Johnson, Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor playing for England, even as subs

Johnsons good though whether he's england calibur just yet is questionable. Agbonlahor should be in the squad & young should start imo. Walcott maybe should be on the bench although he's a bit similar to agbonlahor. Sturridge is one for the future.

I think milner could be due a call up if he does well at villa in the coming months

Quality Control
1st September '08, 06:23 PM
Johnsons good though whether he's england calibur just yet is questionable. Agbonlahor should be in the squad & young should start imo. Walcott maybe should be on the bench although he's a bit similar to agbonlahor. Sturridge is one for the future.

I think milner could be due a call up if he does well at villa in the coming months

yeah and Milner...

i'm just so tired of the current England faces

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:25 PM
lmao
if you think capello is a donut

might as well pack up the international set up and forget entering ever again.

hes quality

Foreal, playing Gerrard on the left when we have young & downing was genuis :stunned:

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 06:30 PM
Foreal, playing Gerrard on the left when we have young & downing was genuis :stunned:

It was a friendly still.

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:32 PM
It was a friendly still.

Exactly, what better time to test out players like young in an england shirt.

The Messiah
1st September '08, 06:32 PM
People still haven't realised that England aren't as good as people in this country think they are?

Brazil
Argentina
Spain
France
Germany
Holland
Portugal
Italy

The above 8 teams are better than England. There are a few others that are debateable (e.g. Croatia) but the above are unquestionable. So England getting to the QF in the World Cup is an acheivement as they shouldn't really get that far. England getting to QF in Euro 04 is about as far as they should have gone. Failure to qualify for Euro 08 was a mixture of bad management by McLaren and poor performances and arrogance by the squad.

Capello is making do with what he's got.

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 06:34 PM
Exactly, what better time to test out players like young in an england shirt.

And a good time to see if Gerrard can play left wing...

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:36 PM
And a good time to see if Gerrard can play left wing...

Playing players out of postion<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 06:39 PM
Playing players out of postion<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Playing Downing for England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

'nuum general
1st September '08, 06:39 PM
And a good time to see if Gerrard can play left wing...


Playing players out of postion<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I have to agree with this, playing gerrard on the left in a friendly is pointless when you have two decent young left wingers. Its not like he's going to play gerrard there in competitive games...:stunned:

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:49 PM
Playing Downing for England<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Ashley young is a natural left winger

JACK YOU
1st September '08, 06:50 PM
Capello is nothing different to McClaren in my eyes. Done nothing different apart from starve the cunts.
The team are not even playing any different to what they was. About a whole new plan, biggest dickhead.
Should definitely have Owen in the team without a doubt hes got the best record and bangs in goals whenever the circumstances.
Should of started Ashley Young, Abonglohoar and Walcott in the friendlys.

Capello has fucked up already in my eyes.

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:50 PM
I have to agree with this, playing gerrard on the left in a friendly is pointless when you have two decent young left wingers. Its not like he's going to play gerrard there in competitive games...:stunned:

Exactly, it was a pointless exercise

Xtra P
1st September '08, 06:52 PM
Cappello may still end up being a good manager for england but he has shown no signs of it so far, so for now he is a..

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

The Messiah
1st September '08, 06:53 PM
Lol at you lot calling a Capello a donut.

If he can't save England then no-one can. Simple as.

Xtra P
1st September '08, 07:01 PM
Lol at you lot calling a Capello a donut.

If he can't save England then no-one can. Simple as.

You may be right but look at his tactics so far, not very inspiring.

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 07:03 PM
You may be right but look at his tactics so far, not very inspiring.

Your a doughnut for righting him off when he's not even had competitive game in charge yet.

Xtra P
1st September '08, 07:05 PM
Your a doughnut for righting him off when he's not even had competitive game in charge yet.


Cappello may still end up being a good manager

Reading is fun de mental

Eric Cantona
1st September '08, 07:07 PM
Your still calling him a doughnut for no reason at all.

Xtra P
1st September '08, 07:09 PM
Your still calling him a doughnut for no reason at all.

For what ive seen so far but I admited that he still might become a good manager for england

Pristine Condition
1st September '08, 07:42 PM
England are just plain shit, people need to stop bigging up the whole squad, when they're only two world class players.

The 8 teams Messiah have far much better players than England.

It's only because we see them, week in, week out. We get overly hapz.

Grimes
1st September '08, 09:03 PM
he deserves it still.

DTI
2nd September '08, 08:57 AM
England are full of class but cant play as a team

The Messiah
3rd September '08, 07:35 PM
England are full of class but cant play as a team

No. England's national team is full of good players.

We've already discussed "class" previously. Only Gerrard and Ferdinand were unanimously considered as World Class. There's room for debate with John Terry and Rooney isn't World Class yet...

Xtra P
4th September '08, 03:56 PM
Eriksson wasn’t that bad after all it seems

Anonymous
4th September '08, 04:44 PM
Capello is one of the best managers in football. He is up there with the Fergusons, Lippis, Wengers etc.

Hij
4th September '08, 04:58 PM
------------------Owen---------
-----------Rooney---
Young -- Gerrard ------- -- Bentley
------------------Bullard--------
A.Cole -- Ferdinand -- Terry -- Right Back
-----------James

Would be sick IMO.

quality
4th September '08, 05:12 PM
For me, when Hargreaves is fit there's no one better in our midfield. Bullard is a good player to have in the squad though.

Dunno how Micah Richards has been dropped for Wes Brown. Richards was one of the things McClaren did right. Especially if Capello insists on playing Beckham, England need someone who can do the running Beckham can't. Young should be in the squad no doubt, he's been a lot since Watford days. I'd take Owen over any other stiker, including Rooney as well, you know who'll score you goals at the end of it.

Eric Cantona
4th September '08, 05:14 PM
------------------Owen---------
-----------Rooney---
Young -- Gerrard ------- -- Bentley
------------------Bullard--------
A.Cole -- Ferdinand -- Terry -- Right Back
-----------James

Would be sick IMO.

Bullard over Hargreaves?

Right Back over Micah? lol

The Messiah
5th September '08, 02:43 PM
Eriksson wasn’t that bad after all it seems

Erikkson was never a bad manager. England lost one qualifier under his spell and got to two quarter-finals which quite frankly were as far as England should have gone in both competitions. If you say anything otherwise then you are either a liar or deluded. Simple as.

Other (relatively minor) gripes aside, his only real problem was the stupid expectation of the English fans and press. When you have pundits in Europe mainland, North/South American, African and Asian countries, on their respective ITV/BBC channels talking about the ridiculous expectation on the England national team within England (when doing their tournament previews) then you've got to start thinking about whether the expectation is too much. Clearly it is. Some of the "Capello is a donut" comments on this forum prove that.

I was always a strong supporter of Ericsson. I was in a minority at the time but I don't seem to be now. The grass isn't always greener...

Xtra P
5th September '08, 02:56 PM
Eriksson was never a bad manager. England lost one qualifier under his spell and got to two quarter-finals which quite frankly were as far as England should have gone in both competitions. If you say anything otherwise then you are either a liar or deluded. Simple as.

Other (relatively minor) gripes aside, his only real problem was the stupid expectation of the English fans and press. When you have pundits in Europe mainland, North/South American, African and Asian countries, on their respective ITV/BBC channels talking about the ridiculous expectation on the England national team within England (when doing their tournament previews) then you've got to start thinking about whether the expectation is too much. Clearly it is. Some of the "Capello is a donut" comments on this forum prove that.

I was always a strong supporter of Eriksson. I was in a minority at the time but I don't seem to be now. The grass isn't always greener...

Thats what I was implying, Eriksson was actually a very good manager for england but because of media pressure & the nations unreasonably high expectations he was forced out, but it proves that England can be a good team if managed properly, so if Capello does worse than Eriksson, its shows that he is infact a...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

:evilgrin:

The Messiah
5th September '08, 03:18 PM
Thats what I was implying, Erikkson was actually a very good manager for england but because of media pressure & the nations unreasonably high expectations he was forced out, but it proves that England can be a good team if managed properly, so if Capello does worse than Erikkson, its shows that he is infact a...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

:evilgrin:

Disagree. You are being niave.

Eriksson had Daivd Beckham, Michael Owen, Emile Heskey (whatever you think of him, he and Owen upfront were very efffective), Sol Campbell, David Seaman and Paul Scholes at the top of their games.

Beckham is on his way down. Will always do the job with set peices though.
Owen is never fit. Heskey *shrug* and only Rooney is up on the level those two used to be.

Scholes in his prime >>>> Lampard in his prime

Sol Campbell in his prime >>> Terry in his prime (controversial view but Terry's lack of pace always gets exposed at Champions League and internatioanl level football. Campbell was a rock back in the day and was first choice for England between 1997-2005 and was the only English player to make the 2002 World Cup XI)

David Seaman hasn't been replaced yet imo.

Capello has less in terms of tools to work with. The England team now is not as good as it was in 2003. Thus if he doesn't do as well as Sven, then it's not simply a case of him being a worse manager than Eriksson.

Xtra P
5th September '08, 03:29 PM
Disagree. You are being niave.

Eriksson had Daivd Beckham, Michael Owen, Emile Heskey (whatever you think of him, he and Owen upfront were very efffective), Sol Campbell, David Seaman and Paul Scholes at the top of their games.

Beckham is on his way down. Will always do the job with set peices though.
Owen is never fit. Heskey *shrug* and only Rooney is up on the level those two used to be.

Scholes in his prime >>>> Lampard in his prime

Sol Campbell in his prime >>> Terry in his prime (controversial view but Terry's lack of pace always gets exposed at Champions League and internatioanl level football. Campbell was a rock back in the day and was first choice for England between 1997-2005 and was the only English player to make the 2002 World Cup XI)

David Seaman hasn't been replaced yet imo.

Capello has less in terms of tools to work with. The England team now is not as good as it was in 2003. Thus if he doesn't do as well as Sven, then it's not simply a case of him being a worse manager than Eriksson.

Very good points although I still believe England have the players to do well, its just a matter of picking the right players for the right postions & having the courage to drop big names in order to achieve balance, Capello seems to still be doing all the things thats wrong with england, putting Gerrard on the left was a strange decision friendly or not.

Edit: He didn't pick Owen even though he's englands best goal scorer, all signs of a donut IMO but ill admit I was wrong about him if it all works out & I don't mean if we beat Andora lol

The Messiah
5th September '08, 03:45 PM
Very good points although I still believe England have the players to do well, its just a matter of picking the right players for the right postions & having the courage to drop big names in order to achieve balance, Capello seems to still be doing all the things thats wrong with england, putting Gerrard on the left was a strange decision friendly or not.

At the end of the day I think it boils down to these things:


Is Capello sticking with 4-4-2 becuase he feels it's the best formation or because he feels that English players don't have the tactical awareness/maturity to play other formations well? My feeling that it's probably the latter reason.


Is Capello going to drop three from Gerrard, Lampard, Hargreaves, Barry and Joe Cole to play in central midfield? In my eyes Joe Cole would be most effective through the middle behind the top two, but I can see why either he or Barry (when Hargreaves is fit) would be put on the left hand side. Hargreaves would be my first choice/untouchable in central midfield and I would drop Lamps over Gerrard. With that in mind, personally I would want to experiment with the following combinations:

- Barry, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Joe Cole
- Joe Cole, Hargreaves, Barry, Gerrard
- Barry, Hargreaves, Joe Cole, Gerrard
- Joe Cole/Barry, Hargreaves, Gerrard and random RMs (Bentley, Beckham etc.)

Is Capello going to consider playing the "less now for potentially more later" game. Joe Hart, Ashley Young and Agbonlahor could be played in England's sarting 11 now, but undoutedley they would struggle at first and England would lose/draw a few games they shouldn't - leading to media criticsm. Assuming that these players progress over the next 2 years and move to/become CL teams, by the time we get to 2010 they'll be ready and experienced for international football competitions (assuming their inexperience doesn't prevent England form qualifiying) and will be prepared for years to come. Due to the nature of the media in this country, I wouldn't bother with this option but it's an option I guess.

Xtra P
5th September '08, 03:54 PM
^^Can't argue with that tbh, I just hope Capello see's it the same way

'nuum general
5th September '08, 04:53 PM
Is Capello going to consider playing the "less now for potentially more later" game. Joe Hart, Ashley Young and Agbonlahor could be played in England's sarting 11 now, but undoutedley they would struggle at first and England would lose/draw a few games they shouldn't - leading to media criticsm. Assuming that these players progress over the next 2 years and move to/become CL teams, by the time we get to 2010 they'll be ready and experienced for international football competitions (assuming their inexperience doesn't prevent England form qualifiying) and will be prepared for years to come. Due to the nature of the media in this country, I wouldn't bother with this option but it's an option I guess.
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This is what he should do imo. young is ready to start ahead of lesser sides & is arguably our best left winger. Agbonlahor, walcott & johnson should be on the bench i say. They can give us something later in the game when players are tiring.

The Messiah
5th September '08, 04:56 PM
This is what he should do imo. young is ready to start ahead of lesser sides & is arguably our best left winger. Agbonlahor, walcott & johnson should be on the bench i say. They can give us something later in the game when players are tiring.

I kinda agree. But I can fully understand why Capello doesn't want the hassle. All English fans/media care about is England playing good football. Sven got the results and still got slewed.

'nuum general
5th September '08, 07:05 PM
I kinda agree. But I can fully understand why Capello doesn't want the hassle. All English fans/media care about is England playing good football. Sven got the results and still got slewed.

Svens problem was that he could get results but wasn't a manger to lift the team when were in the shit like in major tournaments. If he had a harry redknap type as his assistant then it could have been different maybe.

Also I wouldn't exactly say the football were playing atm is champagne

The Messiah
5th September '08, 07:16 PM
Svens problem was that he could get results but wasn't a manger to lift the team when were in the shit like in major tournaments. If he had a harry redknap type as his assistant then it could have been different maybe.

Agree. That said, I don't think England underachieved with sven in charge.


Also I wouldn't exactly say the football were playing atm is champagne

Which is why people are getting a bit digruntled with Capello...

Hij
5th September '08, 07:23 PM
Which is why people are getting a bit digruntled with Capello...

Thought the idea was we won something.

Played pretty nice football under Keegan mind.

'nuum general
5th September '08, 07:32 PM
Thought the idea was we won something.



it is, unfortunately losing a friendly doesn't come under that category & the press can make a big thing out of nothing. Wednesday is the big one for me to see where we've really got

Nine Bar
5th September '08, 08:29 PM
------------------Owen---------
-----------Rooney---
Young -- Gerrard ------- -- Bentley
------------------Bullard--------
A.Cole -- Ferdinand -- Terry -- Right Back
-----------James

Would be sick IMO.

LOL if Barry made the switch bet youd have put him in there, Bullard is there because of injuries. Gerrard, Barry, Lampard, Hargreaves, Jenas are in front of him.

Hes good though i wouldnt have minded if he was a Villa man.

'nuum general
5th September '08, 08:47 PM
LOL if Barry made the switch bet youd have put him in there, Bullard is there because of injuries. Gerrard, Barry, Lampard, Hargreaves, Jenas are in front of him.

Hes good though i wouldnt have minded if he was a Villa man.

Jenas?? His own mum probably wouldn't pick him

Arkan
5th September '08, 08:58 PM
Jenas isnt that bad tbh. Lot of people hate on him, if he worked a bit harder on the pitch alot of people would like him more.

Nine Bar
5th September '08, 08:58 PM
Jenas?? His own mum probably wouldn't pick him

I dont like him tbh, but hes played quite a bit, deffo more then the other "bit part/up and comers"

quality
5th September '08, 09:21 PM
Jenas is a talented player he just needs someone to do his tackling and to have a bit more awareness. He'll never be starting for England quality though.

'nuum general
5th September '08, 09:31 PM
Jenas has ability, unfortunately he has the footballing brain of an under 11s player

Anonymous
5th September '08, 10:14 PM
Joe Cole & Ashley Young on the wings >

nesta17
9th September '08, 03:53 AM
be good to see bullard get a cap being a fulham fan

nesta17
9th September '08, 03:53 AM
...if that even happens still

Eric Cantona
10th September '08, 09:02 PM
Capello is a
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h68/clusion7721/donut.jpg

smh

Quality Control
10th September '08, 09:06 PM
England are better with just Lampard playing than they are with just Gerrard playing

Xtra P
10th September '08, 09:19 PM
smh

Don't get carried away, its only 1 game, we beat Germany 5 -1 but didn't exactly go on to be world beaters, don't hype

Xtra P
10th September '08, 09:20 PM
England are better with just Lampard playing than they are with just Gerrard playing

I agree but had Gerrard been available, Cappello would have played him so Al3x needs to sekkle, this selection was forced on him it wasn't tactical genius

Eric Cantona
10th September '08, 09:24 PM
Gerrard would of played over Barry.

Walcott replaced Beckham.

Quality Control
10th September '08, 09:26 PM
gerrard cant play as part of a team

Xtra P
10th September '08, 09:33 PM
Gerrard would of played over Barry.

Walcott replaced Beckham.

So?

1 player can upset the balance of the whole team anyway, I was the only person singing Wallcotts praises when everyone else was sayin they couldn't see potential in him

The Messiah
11th September '08, 07:06 PM
So?

1 player can upset the balance of the whole team anyway, I was the only person singing Wallcotts praises when everyone else was sayin they couldn't see potential in him

Sorry excuse me?

All the other Arsenal fans who claimed to have faith were just lying then... :dozey:

Xtra P
19th June '10, 10:39 AM
Capello = http://www2.norwalk-city.k12.oh.us/wordpress/apcalc0910/files/2010/02/donut1.jpg

lol

Being proved right >>>>>


You may be right but look at his tactics so far, not very inspiring.

.

Rambo
19th June '10, 10:46 AM
capello has won things EVERYWHERE he has gone.

he is far from a doughnut

Xtra P
19th June '10, 10:50 AM
capello has won things EVERYWHERE he has gone.

he is far from a doughnut

As an England manger he's a donut, panic subs against a shit team, come like the wolly with a brolly. Last night we ended up with Crouch, Rooney & Defoe upfront lol.

Explain to me why he didn't change the tactics & bring on Cole?

He might have done well for other teams but for England he's flopping.

Grimes
19th June '10, 10:52 AM
albeit it may be true poor subs but that isn't the real problem is it

Xtra P
19th June '10, 10:56 AM
albeit it may be true poor subs but that isn't the real problem is it

Go on...

ftr, I still think we'll squeeze through but it's not convincing is it?

Nokia
19th June '10, 12:02 PM
Roy Hodgson for next england manager tbh

Keyser Söze
19th June '10, 12:11 PM
Dont you think its funny that:

Germany - German manager

Netherlands - Dutch manager

Argentina - Argentinian manager

Spain - Spanish manager

Brazil - Brazilian manager

France - French manager

England - Italian manager

quality
19th June '10, 12:29 PM
Dont you think its funny that:

Germany - German manager

Netherlands - Dutch manager

Argentina - Argentinian manager

Spain - Spanish manager

Brazil - Brazilian manager

France - French manager

England - Italian manager

Low was Klinsmann's assistant, they tried that with McClaren. Maradona came from nowhere, so it's difficult to see the English parallel. Domenech is Domenech. Only Spain and Holland can claim to have an experienced manager really.

Take your point though, problem is there are no English managers in the top jobs.

Manager aside, how the fuck can 11 professional footballers just forget how to pass a ball sideways 5 yards? The first thing you're told when you start being coached is pass and move, England could do neither - passing was swag and no one showed for the ball.

Capello can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Xtra P
19th June '10, 12:31 PM
Roy Hodgson for next england manager tbh

.

Or Redknapp.

Keyser Söze
19th June '10, 12:47 PM
Yeah i said Redknapp to my mate this morning.

Harry tho yeah ?

Xtra P
19th June '10, 12:49 PM
Yeah Harry would be a good manager for England imo

Grimes
19th June '10, 01:00 PM
harry would do the same thing as capello imo

Xtra P
19th June '10, 01:06 PM
harry would do the same thing as capello imo

He was on talksport saying that he would play Gerrard just behind Rooney & drop Heskey.

Edit: My bad, he said he would either play Crouch or Gerrard up with Rooney but definitely not Heskey.

http://www2.talksport.net/mediaplayer/media_player.asp?id=110966&c=&t=&rssPodcast=&podcastid=&mediaType=1

Sir Kippington
19th June '10, 01:07 PM
Dont you think its funny that:

Germany - German manager

Netherlands - Dutch manager

Argentina - Argentinian manager

Spain - Spanish manager

Brazil - Brazilian manager

France - French manager

England - Italian manager

Name the last english manager to win the EPL/Old Division 1

English..not scottish or welsh...

Keyser Söze
19th June '10, 01:16 PM
Name the last english manager to win the EPL/Old Division 1

English..not scottish or welsh...

Howard Wilkinson :-D

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Harry would be better than Capello imo

Sir Kippington
19th June '10, 01:25 PM
Howard Wilkinson :-D

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Harry would be better than Capello imo

10 points..lol

But you see why the english manager is not english now

TBH
Even though he is a slippery geezer i still think we played best under Venables.
Hoddle was good also but too weird


As an England manger he's a donut, panic subs against a shit team, come like the wolly with a brolly. Last night we ended up with Crouch, Rooney & Defoe upfront lol.

Explain to me why he didn't change the tactics & bring on Cole?

He might have done well for other teams but for England he's flopping.

lol.
he aint a doughnut but it subscribes to my theory that good club manager dnt make good international managers these days.
The jobs are completely different

Keyser Söze
19th June '10, 01:25 PM
10 points..lol

But you see why the english manager is not english now

TBH
Even though he is a slippery geezer i still think we played best under Venables.
Hoddle was good also but too weird

But what did Hoddle or Venables ever win ?? they did alright i think.

I'd be happy for a British manager

Sir Kippington
19th June '10, 01:36 PM
But what did Hoddle or Venables ever win ?? they did alright i think.

I'd be happy for a British manager

The best english team in my memory (Euro 96) was a venables team, we played good attacking football,
dispite the hype of the Italia 90 team, we were afwul, bag of 1-0 scrapes and cameroon balled us TBH


Hoddle would have done better than sven if given time im sure of it.
But all that faith healing shit and the disabled people comments killed him off.

I personally dont think club results should come into it, because the factors involved are different, but i dont pick the england manager the FA does and it all about image with them, why they just dont give it to Pearce i will never know.

Xtra P
19th June '10, 01:42 PM
10 points..lol

But you see why the english manager is not english now

TBH
Even though he is a slippery geezer i still think we played best under Venables.
Hoddle was good also but too weird



lol.
he aint a doughnut but it subscribes to my theory that good club manager dnt make good international managers these days.
The jobs are completely different

lol.
I think he is, running the team like a military operation ain't the answer imo, you need a relaxed fun type of environment, the players should be professional enough to realise the importance of the world cup without having to be drilled like soldiers, plus the man can hardly speak a word of English, how can he relate to the players? as I said, he's a donut in terms of hows he's handled England, he's proving it by his krispy kreme tactics lol

Don't get me wrong he's a decent club manager like you said & I do think England will squeeze through.

Sir Kippington
19th June '10, 02:04 PM
lol.
I think he is, running the team like a military operation ain't the answer imo, you need a relaxed fun type of environment, the players should be professional enough to realise the importance of the world cup without having to be drilled like soldiers, plus the man can hardly speak a word of English, how can he relate to the players? as I said, he's a donut in terms of hows he's handled England, he's proving it by his krispy kreme tactics lol

Don't get me wrong he's a decent club manager like you said & I do think England will squeeze through.

There a story behind the wilkinson thing..
He last won it with leed with Cantona as the star man. then apparently Wilkinson let him stay at the crib and he banged his Mrs..He was then promptly sold to ManU and the rest is history.


Cantona>>>>>>>>>>>

Keyser Söze
19th June '10, 02:06 PM
running the team like a military operation ain't the answer imo, you need a relaxed fun type of environment, the players should be professional enough to realise the importance of the world cup without having to be drilled like soldiers.

This tbh

And why wont he give Joe Cole a chance ???

The Messiah
19th June '10, 04:27 PM
Hoddle would have done better than sven if given time im sure of it. But all that faith healing shit and the disabled people comments killed him off.
.

'nuum general
20th June '10, 01:55 AM
Bullard is shite still