GROUP D: France v England (11th June, kick-off 17:00)

[BIGDON]

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[BIGDON]

bump

[Karim Benzema]

100000 on France.

SWIM AT ME FUCK BOYS ALALALALLALA

[Naruto]

8k on england win 4k on welbeck to score any time

[Waheed]

Is brudda Anelka playing?

[BIGDON]

bump for early bantz

[Romelu Lukaku]

Is brudda Anelka playing?

Nah, you'll never see him in a France line-up again tbh bro.

[Karim Benzema]

8k on england win 4k on welbeck to score any time

LOL!


Is brudda Anelka playing?

nah retired from international after he got banned in 2010

[Waheed]

Lets see if nutty hodgeson is infact a genius!


LOL!



nah retired from international after he got banned in 2010

Ahh I see.......

[iKlozzle]

Ashley Young to duppy SNM

[Mr. Jefferies]

i look at carroll and welbeck to score, the most likely goalscorers and i just cry.

fuck sake.

[Rambo]

will giroud play? AMP

[Romelu Lukaku]

will giroud play? AMP

He'll start on the bench bro.

[BIGDON]

i look at carroll and welbeck to score, the most likely goalscorers and i just cry.

fuck sake.

should i add Young to score aswell or are we just having 2 players from each team for the competition

or should i swap him for Welbeck and Giroud for Ribery?

[Karim Benzema]

will giroud play? AMP


He'll start on the bench bro.

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im hyped and scared.

[Romelu Lukaku]

----- Lloris -----
Debuchy -- Rami - Mexes -- Evra
Cabaye --- Diarra
Nasri ------- Malouda ------- Ribery
Benzema

Will 99.9% be our starting line up.

[BIGDON]

oh ffs people have already bet on them options sorry bros

[Mr. Jefferies]

should i add Young to score aswell or are we just having 2 players from each team for the competition

or should i swap him for Welbeck and Giroud for Ribery?

No.

The markets made at the time should be final.

I was making a point out of England being shite.

[iKlozzle]

i look at carroll and welbeck to score, the most likely goalscorers and i just cry.

fuck sake.

Welbeck and Young to start up front and duppy tbh, France's defence is their weakpoint IMO

Stopping their attack is the problem

[Shower Posse]

i look at carroll and welbeck to score, the most likely goalscorers and i just cry.

fuck sake.

We lack game changers

You never know thou Walcott might get a hattick :dozey:

[Mr. Jefferies]

Welbeck and Young to start up front and duppy tbh, France's defence is their weakpoint IMO

Stopping their attack is the problem

Your United bias is clouding your judgement.

Who will supply the service for Welbeck and Young?

[Romelu Lukaku]

Welbeck and Young to start up front and duppy tbh, France's defence is their weakpoint IMO

Stopping their attack is the problem

We conceded less in qualifying than England bro, 4 goals in our 10 qualifying games bro you conceded 5 in your 8. The English media has made our defence out to be alot worse than it actually is tbh, not having M'Vila isn't ideal but Diarra should cover well enough.

[NSF]

Gonna be a walk in the park

[Waheed]

i look at carroll and welbeck to score, the most likely goalscorers and i just cry.

fuck sake.

Who would you say is better out of them 2?

[Romelu Lukaku]

Who would you say is better out of them 2?

It's like comparing Messi to Titus Bramble tbh.

[Mr. Jefferies]

Who would you say is better out of them 2?

i'd be more confident with rooney, bent and defoe.

welbeck isn't a goalscorer. carroll...

[iKlozzle]

Your United bias is clouding your judgement.

Who will supply the service for Welbeck and Young?

Stewart Downing

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120510234549/sonic/images/7/73/Trollface.png

[BIGDON]

Defoe did return back to the squad today and trained so could feature

[Mr. Jefferies]

Stewart Downing

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120510234549/sonic/images/7/73/Trollface.png

why will young and welbeck "duppy"?

[Karim Benzema]

i'd be more confident with rooney, bent and defoe.

welbeck isn't a goalscorer. carroll...

yeh i'd be scared of bent tbh

Croissant Cunt
Malouda RM
Nasri CAM
Ribery LM

i think

[Rambo]

http://www.bettingexpert.com/assets/images/blog/EuroBlog2012/euro2012pundit1.jpg

[iKlozzle]

why will young and welbeck "duppy"?

Lol, I was just been silly really, don't watch that

But seriously, if they do get the service, I can see them posing a few problems. If Gerrard can roll back the years and if Milner (he can deliver) and AOC (young I know, but has huge potential) start on the wings, we could be able to provide some good service to them. Just trying to be optimistic tbh.

[Mr. Jefferies]

yeh i'd be scared of bent tbh

Malouda RM
Nasri CAM
Ribery LM

i think

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not?

I'd be much more confident with the likes of Defoe and Bent there to tuck away the chances.

[Romelu Lukaku]

yeh i'd be scared of bent tbh

Croissant Cunt
Malouda RM
Nasri CAM
Ribery LM

i think

I think Malouda will play centrally, mixing it up with both wingers. Would sooner see Menez tbh.

[Mr. Jefferies]

Lol, I was just been silly really, don't watch that

But seriously, if they do get the service, I can see them posing a few problems. If Gerrard can roll back the years and if Milner (he can deliver) and AOC (young I know, but has huge potential) start on the wings, we could be able to provide some good service to them. Just trying to be optimistic tbh.

Service from who? The Ox won't start mate.

France will tear us a new one.

[Karim Benzema]

I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not?

I'd be much more confident with the likes of Defoe and Bent there to tuck away the chances.

nah honestly i think bent for england would be a problem vs us

i cant see welbeck and carol being that

defoe i dont know but i doubt he'd start...if he comes on as sub whether or not he makes a impact i dunno

[FoundTheGif]

Malouda?

http://img.youtube.com/vi/Fb3MOOxs83A/0.jpg

Why no Ben Arfa?



Your United bias is clouding your judgement.

Who will supply the service for Welbeck and Young?

You're either a very pessimistic guy or very realistic lol. I'm sure it's more about getting service to Welbeck.

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How does everyone expect England to line up? I expect a 4-4-1-1 obviously Front 6:

---------Welbeck
--AOC----Young----Milner
------Parker----Gerrard

Same as vs Belgium. Depending on who's playing at LAM for France, I would start Walcott or AOC and just try to hit them on the counter attack but I think Hodgson will go defensive. Not sure how good Walcott is on the left anyway.

[iKlozzle]

Service from who? The Ox won't start mate.

France will tear us a new one.

Probably will bro, just trying to think positively I guess

[Karim Benzema]

think he might be on the bench.



Probably will bro, just trying to think positively I guess


dont pls....its england national football team we are talking about here
llalallalala

[iKlozzle]

Malouda?

http://img.youtube.com/vi/Fb3MOOxs83A/0.jpg

Why no Ben Arfa?

Malouda >>> Ben Arfa IMO

He has more International experience

[Romelu Lukaku]

Malouda?

http://img.youtube.com/vi/Fb3MOOxs83A/0.jpg

Why no Ben Arfa?

Firstly Malouda looked very good in pre-tournament friendlies, and has earned his place.

Secondly Blanc has built his squad around a solid starting 11 which he likes to field when possible, I personally think this has positives and negatives.

Positive being our starting 11 know eachother very well and as a result link up fantastically.

Negatives being players like Mexes haven't been up to scratch lately and players who have looked better, like Koscielny, aren't getting a starting place.

Just hope Mexes has a good game man.

[Clive Eboue]

lol the team sheet will reduce me to tears.

[Romelu Lukaku]

Player for player, I think it's very close and would argue that England may even have the edge over us.

However you play so negatively and can't string so much as 5 passes together.

The lack of chances you created in your friendlies is worrying, particularly considering the caliber of teams you played against.

The only positive to come from them friendlies was that you kept two clean sheets, leading to a belief you have a solid defence, really though Norway were atrocious in the final 1/3 and Belgium played 80mins without a striker, so imo you haven't had a real test.

[Shower Posse]

I am scrapping from bones here but this is the team I would like to see out Monday

Hart

Johnson Terry Lescott Cole
Parker Milner

Walcott Young Gerrard

Welbeck

[FoundTheGif]

Malouda >>> Ben Arfa IMO

He has more International experience

Shouldn't you take players that are in form/More likely to shine? No offense to Malouda but if I saw him in the line up I wouldn't be scared in the slightest.


Firstly Malouda looked very good in pre-tournament friendlies, and has earned his place.

Secondly Blanc has built his squad around a solid starting 11 which he likes to field when possible, I personally think this has positives and negatives.

Positive being our starting 11 know eachother very well and as a result link up fantastically.

Negatives being players like Mexes haven't been up to scratch lately and players who have looked better, like Koscielny, aren't getting a starting place.

Just hope Mexes has a good game man.

Fair enough. Like I said to Klozzle above I wouldn't really be scared if I saw Malouda in the line up. I think whether he plays centrally or on the right he'll be handled accordingly by either Parker or Cole.



Player for player, I think it's very close and would argue that England may even have the edge over us.

However you play so negatively and can't string so much as 5 passes together.

The lack of chances you created in your friendlies is worrying, particularly considering the caliber of teams you played against.

The only positive to come from them friendlies was that you kept two clean sheets, leading to a belief you have a solid defence, really though Norway were atrocious in the final 1/3 and Belgium played 80mins without a striker, so imo you haven't had a real test.

Trust me were not lol, I think apart from CB/LB/GK your whole team is probably better than ours. I fully expect us to get murdered.

[Karim Benzema]

yeh england have a better team on paper player for player


but cant play together

(ON PAPER)

Lloris and Hart are pretty much the same
Evra and Cole are pretty much the same
Johnson >>>debauchy ....id say Johnson cause hes has more experience...Debuncy is sick though, scored vs iceland still
Terry and Lescott >> Mexes and Rami
Parker and Milner >> Cayabe and Diarra
Wallcottx100 <<<<<<<<<<<<<Nasri
Gerrard >> Maluoda
Young <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Ribery
Welbeck<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Benzema

[Scrappy123]

lol.


England's odds being shorter.

[Karim Benzema]

I am scrapping from bones here but this is the team I would like to see out Monday

Hart

Johnson Terry Lescott Cole
Parker Milner

Walcott Young Gerrard

Welbeck

gerrard wont be playing attacking i dont think btw....

hes gonna be DM with parker holding infront of back 4


dunno whos gonna go in rooneys spot in CAM

think england might play a 4-2-2-2

4 defends 2 cdm 1 rm 1lm 2 strikers cause theres no rooney

[Clive Eboue]

:laugh::laugh:

Walcott is a lot more effective than Samir 80's lesbian Nasri tbh.

[Scrappy123]

Hart
Johnson Terry Lescott Cole

Parker Gerrard

Walcott Ox(I swear he prefers being in the middle?) Young

Welbeck

Blood in some of the future attackers who are also better than the senior players lol

[Shower Posse]

gerrard wont be playing attacking i dont think btw....

hes gonna be DM with parker holding infront of back 4


dunno whos gonna go in rooneys spot in CAM

think england might play a 4-2-2-2

4 defends 2 cdm 1 rm 1lm 2 strikers cause theres no rooney

I know Woy is going to get shook and play Gerrard in a defensive role when we are clearly lacking attacking flair
We need someone who can supply the frontline...Young in the hole...Gerrard cutting in...Walcott vs Evra as well should be alright considering what we are working with

But I know in reality it will be Downing,Walcott, Caroll and Milner in the front four :sad::sad::sad:

[Clive Eboue]

Anyone who watched Arsenal v United at the Emirates this season will know that Chamberlain NEEDS to start if Evra plays for France.

[Deagle]

yeh england have a better team on paper player for player


but cant play together

(ON PAPER)

Lloris and Hart are pretty much the same
Evra and Cole are pretty much the same
Johnson >>>debauchy ....id say Johnson cause hes has more experience...Debuncy is sick though, scored vs iceland still
Terry and Lescott >> Mexes and Rami
Parker and Milner >> Cayabe and Diarra
Wallcottx100 <<<<<<<<<<<<<Nasri
Gerrard >> Maluoda
Young <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Ribery
Welbeck<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Benzema

Nah Cole>>>>Evra these days.
Benzema Ribery and Nasri are too much though.
I doubt England will be able to expose the weaknesses of the French defence often but Young and Welbeck have pace so it'll be interesting.

[Karim Benzema]

I know Woy is going to get shook and play Gerrard in a defensive role when we are clearly lacking attacking flair
We need someone who can supply the frontline...Young in the hole...Gerrard cutting in...Walcott vs Evra as well should be alright considering what we are working with

But I know in reality it will be Downing,Walcott, Caroll and Milner in the front four :sad::sad::sad:

lol yup:evilgrin:

[MyLord]

How does everyone expect England to line up? I expect a 4-4-1-1 obviously Front 6:

---------Welbeck
--AOC----Young----Milner
------Parker----Gerrard

Same as vs Belgium. Depending on who's playing at LAM for France, I would start Walcott or AOC and just try to hit them on the counter attack but I think Hodgson will go defensive. Not sure how good Walcott is on the left anyway.

Milner on the wing??? Gerrard is no good playing that deep. he's better off playing behind the striker at CF / AM imo.

would prefer this:

_______Welbeck
Young___Gerrard__AOC
_____Milner___Parker

> Milner can sling long balls down the wing to Young
> Young can cut in on his right and go for goal
> AOC partner with gerrard and pull players out of position and feed balls to Welbeck /Carroll
> Parker being Parker

[Waheed]

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4432865_700b_v1.jpg

[FoundTheGif]

Milner on the wing??? Gerrard is no good playing that deep. he's better off playing behind the striker at CF / AM imo.

would prefer this:

_______Welbeck
Young___Gerrard__AOC
_____Milner___Parker

> Milner can sling long balls down the wing to Young
> Young can cut in on his right and go for goal
> AOC partner with gerrard and pull players out of position and feed balls to Welbeck /Carroll
> Parker being Parker

Putting Milner on the wing will help Johnson with Ribery and Evra Everybody knows he'll need it. Young can still go for goal when he plays behind the striker. He also links up with Welbeck, a lot better than Gerrard would.

Gerrard is also way too slow considering we should be playing on the counterattac. Young/Welbeck/AOC or Walcott have the pace to hit on the counter.

[Waheed]

I would go with



Welbeck

Young

AOC Gerrard Parker Walcott

Cole Terry Lescott Jones

Hart


obviously its untested and not the safe option.......but we gotta take risks.....

[j09]

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4432865_700b_v1.jpg

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The flight home after the group games has already been booked by the fa

[FoundTheGif]

I would go with



Welbeck

Young

AOC Gerrard Parker Walcott

Cole Terry Lescott Jones

Hart


obviously its untested and not the safe option.......but we gotta take risks.....

Jones at RB? el oh el

[Waheed]

I'm sure he'll do a much better job than glenda johnson...

He's likes to attack and run forward (good at it too)........maybe needs to work on his crossing abit.......don't see why it would be a problem?

[The Messiah]

Odds on Ribery scoring? Could that be Added to the bets above s'il vous plait?

BIGDON

[Waheed]

If we lose this game and god forbid go out of the tournament early, the most frustrating thing will be knowing we had much better players available.........but they were never chosen for the squad :angry:

[Mr. Jefferies]

Odds on Ribery scoring? Could that be Added to the bets above s'il vous plait?

BIGDON

Think Hij agreed no adjustments to the markets, we all agree on what we're betting on before the tournament starts and know what's going up in advance.

[Mr. Jefferies]

Probably will bro, just trying to think positively I guess

Fair enough mate. Pessimistic as fuck I am, especially with England.

I'd love nothing more than to be proved wrong.


lol.


England's odds being shorter.

William Hill mate. The odds are also influenced by the amount of people betting on them. That's why England are always favourites to win tournaments with English bookies.

[Xtra P]

:laugh::laugh:

Walcott is a lot more effective than Samir 80's lesbian Nasri tbh.

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lol Nasri is underpants

Wallcott should be used as an impact sub imo.

[Switch]

I know Woy is going to get shook and play Gerrard in a defensive role when we are clearly lacking attacking flair
We need someone who can supply the frontline...Young in the hole...Gerrard cutting in...Walcott vs Evra as well should be alright considering what we are working with

But I know in reality it will be Downing,Walcott, Caroll and Milner in the front four :sad::sad::sad::laugh::laugh::dead::dead:


http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4432865_700b_v1.jpg:laugh:

[LeBcfc]

england to park the bus

[Karim Benzema]

Odds on Ribery scoring? Could that be Added to the bets above s'il vous plait?

BIGDON

13/5


ribery anytime is a good shout tbh... played well in friendlies

[CatchACat]

remember england beat spain with -
Hart
Johnson Jones Lescott Jagielka Cole
Walcott Parker Lampard Milner
Bent

so to completly write us of would be fucking idiotic, we have a team full of players more than capable, Hart is one of the best keepers in the world atm, Ashley Cole proved in Munich that he can lock down world class wingers like Ribery and Robben and destroy supply. Terry and Lescott were both pivotal players for Champions League and Premier league winners, Johnsons a mug.
Parker has proved in the last few seasons no matter what team hes in he can player the anchorman role and take players out the game. Milner is a lively player, can play across the park and put in splitting passes. Young is a pacey winger who can cause mayhem in any defence. Steven Gerrard knows he has to preform and has pulled it out the bag before att big tourneys/games. Danny Welbeck proved the other day and throughout the season that when given a chance he is a great young striker with cracking pace and flair that only comes with youth.

Just because it's england dont write us off, the press haven't been giving it the biggun about how this is our year and all that shit, infact they've done the opposite so Roy and the lads are going out there with something to prove. some guys it could be there last chance and will want to prove to the world they aint flops and others want to prove that they aint just talked about talents.

Milner will be our player of the tourney.

[Mr. Jefferies]

remember england beat spain with -
Hart
Johnson Jones Lescott Jagielka Cole
Walcott Parker Lampard Milner
Bent

Indeed but that was a meaningless friendly and Spain missed a shitload of chances. A freak result.

[The Messiah]

Think Hij agreed no adjustments to the markets, we all agree on what we're betting on before the tournament starts and know what's going up in advance.


13/5

ribery anytime is a good shout tbh... played well in friendlies

Hij is the non-adjustment true? Technically I want to make an addition. Giroud blatantly isn't going to start, so it's reasonable imo to add a French player who will.

[Romelu Lukaku]

remember england beat spain with -
Hart
Johnson Jones Lescott Jagielka Cole
Walcott Parker Lampard Milner
Bent


I think this is better than the proposed starting 11 tbh.

[CatchACat]

imagine when fucking lescott and ribery go toe to toe, most kids watching on tv will shit themselves

[Romelu Lukaku]

imagine when fucking lescott and ribery go toe to toe, most kids watching on tv will shit themselves

http://www.footballjustice.com/photos/franck-ribery-2b980.jpg
Ribery is much worse tbh.

[Karim Benzema]

http://www.footballjustice.com/photos/franck-ribery-2b980.jpg


stunning

[CatchACat]

http://www.footballjustice.com/photos/franck-ribery-2b980.jpg
Ribery is much worse tbh.

Got more money in the bank than Greece and his teeth are as straight as a butchers hook

[Karim Benzema]

can confirm ribery get countless bitches

real skeng man tbh

[FoundTheGif]

I'm sure he'll do a much better job than glenda johnson...

He's likes to attack and run forward (good at it too)........maybe needs to work on his crossing abit.......don't see why it would be a problem?

Because he gets exposed by good wingers. You want to put him against Ribery?

[Waheed]

lol fuck ribery

[Jonás Gutiérrez]

Ashley Young to duppy SNM

went william hills and wrote this on the slip

[The Messiah]

Ribery is 4/1 anytime goalscorer on Paddy Power (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/2012-olympics/football-matches/euro-2012-matches?ev_oc_grp_ids=552835)

Hij BIGDON The Wet Dog

EDIT: Assuming mods have had odds privileges removed. Mind adding the above. Been ratified by Hij.



By the way, in the France/England thread, I asked about adding Ribery as a goal scorer as Giroud won't start. Possible?


I see no problem with that tbh

[Sosa]

Ribery is 4/1 anytime goalscorer on Paddy Power (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/2012-olympics/football-matches/euro-2012-matches?ev_oc_grp_ids=552835)

Odds added.

:woah:

[Unknown. Poster]

That's some nice odds on France to win, fucking tempting, but gonna resist betting on this match.

[Karim Benzema]

£50 on the game and will be spending more on inplay

100k on now

inshallah i win

[FoundTheGif]

Better hope Kebab doesn't bet on France

[Karim Benzema]

Better hope Kebab doesn't bet on France

hes bet 8k already on england


:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

[Xtra P]

hes bet 8k already on england


:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/customavatars/avatar10985_38.gif

[FoundTheGif]

hes bet 8k already on england


:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

lol that's not a good thing

[Karim Benzema]

lol that's not a good thing

wait what

i swear everything Kebab bets on loses

[FoundTheGif]

wait what

i swear everything Kebab bets on loses

oh sorry, I read England as France for some reason

[Karim Benzema]

oh sorry, I read England as France for some reason

LOL

the way you made me panic <<<<<<<<<<<<< :laugh:

[FoundTheGif]

lulul

[Scrappy123]

Can't be having my Cousin's and Uncle in France chatting a load of shit.


C'MON FISH & CHIPS! FUCK SNAILS & CROISSANTS!

[datnigganev]

If Milner. Parker and Downing starting Hodgson can go fuck himself.

[CatchACat]

If Milner. Parker and Downing starting Hodgson can go fuck himself.

LOL. Milner and Parker >>>>>>>>>>> Song and Diaby

[datnigganev]

LOL. Milner and Parker >>>>>>>>>>> Song and Diaby

ok pal, cheers for that.

[Hij]

http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/customavatars/avatar10985_38.gif
:laugh:

[Pristine Condition]

BIG rumours that Downing starts for England tomorrow can he keep his run of 0 goals and 0 assists going in the England vs France game

[The Messiah]

Ribery bet please? Hij

Will be at work tomorrow so need to make my bets tonight.

[Scrappy123]

Downing will play a key role in tomorrow's game. Quote me.



The more we can keep him on the bench, the greater our chance.

[Hij]

Hope England get battered tomorrow, preferably via a couple of Henderson, Downing and Kelly deliberate own goals

[chris89]

Hope England get battered tomorrow, preferably via a couple of Henderson, Downing and Kelly deliberate own goals

:dead:

[Scrappy123]

Hope England get battered tomorrow, preferably via a couple of Henderson, Downing and Kelly deliberate own goals

Cool patriotism bro. /Troll

[Hutch]

Our players need to just threaten all the French players, they will surrender.

[Karim Benzema]

http://www.euro2012soccerjerseys.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/france-euro-2012-nike-away-shirt.jpg

will be bought with my winnings tomorrow

[Hij]

Are you French AMP or is it a "stand out and be different and support the other team in the group England are in" thing?

[Julio Cesar]

Are you French AMP or is it a "stand out and be different and support the other team in the group England are in" thing?
:laugh:

inb4AMPsaysitagain

[chris89]

He's not French bro he's Indian

[Karim Benzema]

pain

nationality french
raised london
ethnicity mauritian

Hij



:laugh:

inb4AMPsaysitagain

:laugh:

[Hij]

Cool fair play.

[Josh]

Hope England get battered tomorrow, preferably via a couple of Henderson, Downing and Kelly deliberate own goals

whyyyyy

[Hij]

whyyyyy

The fantasy continues with all of them sliding into the corner where the England fans are and revealing T Shirts that say "Great support you bunch of fat lager swilling cunts".

[Josh]

'scouse not english'

can you believe people actually say that shit hij? madness isn't it? complete lunacy.

[Hij]

'scouse not english'

can you believe people actually say that shit hij? madness isn't it? complete lunacy.

Yo bro your one of them guys who gets proper keen over England in the summer, good luck to you, I wasn't sending for you so there was no real need to take offence, was it the use of the word fat? I just think its ridiculous that people who claim to support England, barrack the players who are called up to play- whether some scousers support England at all is a different issue, at least they are straight about it, not the sort of cunts who will boo Downing if he comes on.

I'm a million times a club man over his country though.

Let me know what's so great about supporting England?

[Josh]

Yo bro your one of them guys who gets proper keen over England in the summer, good luck to you, I wasn't sending for you so there was no real need to take offence, was it the use of the word fat? I just think its ridiculous that people who claim to support England, barrack the players who are called up to play- whether some scousers support England at all is a different issue, at least they are straight about it, not the sort of cunts who will boo Downing if he comes on.

I'm a million times a club man over his country though.

Let me know what's so great about supporting England?

I don't get proper keen lol

just don't see why u need to be get annoyed over some fans who always have a go at the players, every club/nation has fans like this, they're part & parcel of the game sadly, don't get emotional cos ppl are slating liverpool players

nothing is great about supporting england i do it cos they're my country

im also club over country

i'm not fat

ppl who say 'scouse not english' are colossal fucking cunts

think that covers it

anyway im going to bed. can't even go to pub tomorrow to watch england have to watch it at work l0l

[Karim Benzema]

when it comes to nations taking the piss out of there own plays englands right on top tbh...


would say france, spain and germany are not that far off but england fans are different level

[Mr. Jefferies]

I know what Hij is saying, England used to piss me off and all, I've mellowed to them now though, a gradual process from being impartial to now wanting them to do well.

[The Messiah]

FFS someone sort out the Ribery option above

[Mr. Jefferies]

FFS someone sort out the Ribery option above

BIGDON has to do it and he's offline.

[The Messiah]

BIGDON has to do it and he's offline.

http://toymagik.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Sort-It-Out-Family-Game.jpg

[Bobby_7]

Looking forward to seeing England flop again.

[Romelu Lukaku]

I honestly can't sleep due to anticipation!

Tomorrow is gonna be horrible, only France fan in the pub, my stomach will be in knots!

Praying we don't lose our bottle and go out there and play the football I've seen recently!

ALLEZ LES BLEUS! :hyper:

[Matt91]

I don't get proper keen lol

just don't see why u need to be get annoyed over some fans who always have a go at the players, every club/nation has fans like this, they're part & parcel of the game sadly, don't get emotional cos ppl are slating liverpool players

nothing is great about supporting england i do it cos they're my country

im also club over country

i'm not fat

ppl who say 'scouse not english' are colossal fucking cunts

think that covers it

anyway im going to bed. can't even go to pub tomorrow to watch england have to watch it at work l0l
C/s fully

AMP I don't get how your French when the mauritius were run by us, inb4 parents but even then I don't understand

[The Messiah]

C/s fully

AMP I don't get how your French when the mauritius were run by us, inb4 parents but even then I don't understand

The French colonised the place before the British did.

[Naruto]

Thinking of dropping £45 on both teams to score or £30 on france win and £15 on both teams to score

[Karim Benzema]

Explain this for me.

If your parents were born in France and are French, then why are you born here and not English? And if they're Mauritian, why are you not Mauritian?

Not a send just genuinely curious.

Just seen your mom born in Mauritius, point still stands lul.

my parents planned back to move to paris like i mentioned earlier so made me get a french passport like the rest of them.
when we ended up living here my parents didn't want us to get british passports are there was no need

dont know why my little brother has a french passport too tbh

Croissant Cunt is the same as me. born here but french.

my dad was born in reunion part of france. he has a mauritian and french passport
mum has mauritian and gained french passport when she lived in paris.

my mum and dad always planned to moved back to paris but didn't in the end


The French colonised the place before the British did.

yeh they did but that was ages ago....napoleon times.
french stuck even after british took over and forced my ancestors from india and africa to work in what was called the coolie slave tradee

thats mauritius.

[Waheed]

posted it before cant find it...might aswell say again :laugh:

dad born in france. mauritian origin
mum born in mauritius . mauritian origin
mum met dad in paris. married in mauritius.
lived in paris. dad got job offer in london parents temp move to london while my mum was pregnant with me, older sis already born
born here, st georges hospital TTKK >>>
got a french passport same as everyone else
ended up living here
sticked with the french passport
even after 10 years and my brother was born my mum and dad made sure he got a french passport too.
remember asking them why when i was younger and they replied "cause its better" (:evilgrin:)


got bare family living in france.

lol you're british mate.....just like the rest of us :laugh:

[Karim Benzema]

lol you're british mate.....just like the rest of us :laugh:

not on paper im not legally i have to say im french in all forms

if france go to war with england i have to go on frances side lol

[Mr. Jefferies]

my parents planned back to move to paris like i mentioned earlier so made me get a french passport like the rest of them.
when we ended up living here my parents didn't want us to get british passports are there was no need

dont know why my little brother has a french passport too tbh

Croissant Cunt is the same as me. born here but french.

my dad was born in reunion part of france. he has a mauritian and french passport
mum has mauritian and gained french passport when she lived in paris.

my mum and dad always planned to moved back to paris but didn't in the end

I'm able to get a Belizean passport if I want but I wouldn't consider myself a Belizean if I got one. CC moved away from France, I remember him saying.

[Romelu Lukaku]

not on paper im not legally i have to say im french in all forms

if france go to war with england i have to go on frances side lol

Did you also get the letter? I got one when I was 18, excusing me from national service because I lived overseas but stating I could be called up and required to represent the French army if required! :laugh:

At first I was shocked but then I thought realistically...How often do we actually go to war lol moretime just wave that white flag and jam!

[Mr. Jefferies]

Will be avoiding this game.

I've learned twice not to bet on England.

I do like the look of one of the markets though.

[Karim Benzema]

I'm able to get a Belizean passport if I want but I wouldn't consider myself a Belizean if I got one. CC moved away from France, I remember him saying.

I do consider myself french. from the food we eat at home to the way my mum and dad talk to me

yeh i might reply in english but the talk to me in nothing but french/french creleo

my family dont go on holidays to random places in to world to relax. from day we go to france to visit old friends and family and stay there for weeks.

from day i've known paris and france to be like my home and england just being somewhere i lived. even now when my family cant afford family trips no more i go on my ones cause it feels weird not to be there during the summer.

the way my parents raised me, especially my dad.

london is just where i live lol, might not be able to speak french well but i know what i am


gonna stay being that mauritian boy dipping my croissant in my british tea


Did you also get the letter? I got one when I was 18, excusing me from national service because I lived overseas but stating I could be called up and required to represent the French army if required! :laugh:

At first I was shocked but then I thought realistically...How often do we actually go to war lol moretime just wave that white flag and jam!

yehhh looool you normally get 2 you know when your 16 and 18

the one when i was 16 was telling me to come to the french ambassey (which i went to) was just a presenation on french army and shit... was chill


yehh france never go to war its #calm :evilgrin:

[The Messiah]

lol you're british mate.....just like the rest of us :laugh:

Yet another person thinking that simply being born in Britain makes you British.

Nationality can be chosen if the circumstances allow. Joanna Lumley was born in India FFS, and none of you lot would dare call her Indian.

People who tend not to have those circumstances, always tend to be the ones sniping. Maybe it's jealousy...

[MoneyMan]

Did you also get the letter? I got one when I was 18, excusing me from national service because I lived overseas but stating I could be called up and required to represent the French army if required! :laugh:

At first I was shocked but then I thought realistically...How often do we actually go to war lol moretime just wave that white flag and jam!

looooool :laugh:
The pragmatists approach.

You gonna be sat in Derby watching this cheering on les blues lol? You madhead.

Not sure if I wanna go out or not because if we lose everyone will sing the French national anthem at me all day and say things like "hahaha fucking English cunt ye!"

But if we win









http://i49.tinypic.com/167w2g3.jpg

I never used to support England cos all my family is Scottish so would brainwash me against them and buy me Scotland tops but now I would quite like us to win.
Oh yeah AMP I can confirm you're English purely because you were born here bro, sorry. I should be Scottish if you go by ancestry but I was born in Derby BMT Croissant Cunt therefore I am English.

[Mr. Jefferies]

Thread's going off topic lol.


I do consider myself french. from the food we eat at home to the way my mum and dad talk to me

yeh i might reply in english but the talk to me in nothing but french/french creleo

my family dont go on holidays to random places in to world to relax. from day we go to france to visit old friends and family and stay there for weeks.

from day i've known paris and france to be like my home and england just being somewhere i lived. even now when my family cant afford family trips no more i go on my ones cause it feels weird not to be there during the summer.

the way my parents raised me, especially my dad.

london is just where i live lol, might not be able to speak french well but i know what i am


gonna stay being that mauritian boy dipping my croissant in my british tea

Cool bro fair play, like I say no send was just genuinely curious.

[Karim Benzema]

I never used to support England cos all my family is Scottish so would brainwash me against them and buy me Scotland tops but now I would quite like us to win.
Oh yeah AMP I can confirm you're English purely because you were born here bro, sorry. I should be Scottish if you go by ancestry but I was born in Derby BMT Croissant Cunt therefore I am English.

nationality is dependant on what passport you have. to get a passport your parents have to be either from that country, living there and born there.

i could get my own british passport now im 18. but fuck it i dont want to im french, all my life i've been french.


and your also wrong... your not english your british.




Cool bro fair play, like I say no send was just genuinely curious.

all good bro

[DTR]

AMP
I saw Mauritius on Banged Up Abroad. Beautiful island. I really want to go there.

EDIT: here is the link for the Banged Up Abroad episode.(She smuggled heroin in some shoes her friend gave her, she had the pass the shoes to someone on the island. Got caught and got locked up for 7 years in Mauritius.

jF82fLOzNlU

[Romelu Lukaku]

MoneyMan, I'll watch it in my local with my mates...I imagine there will be lots of verbal abuse back and forth but it'll all be in good fun and I know I'll be good to watch it there without some pissed up lout trying to start a fight!

Don't think I'm gonna be able to drink until after the game, I get really bad nerves when France play big games and feel physically sick :laugh:

[MoneyMan]

Yet another person thinking that simply being born in Britain makes you British.

Nationality can be chosen if the circumstances allow.

People who tend not to have those circumstances, always tend to be the ones sniping. Maybe it's jealousy, you tell me...

IMO, Nationality should be a concrete fact and something which cannot be picked and choosed.*

You are only born once, in one place, that is something you cannot change so that should be your nationality. People fight over all these things like nationality, ethnicity and various other things which make up their own identities and sense of self but if everyone just accepted that they can't change any of these things then imo there would be less trouble.

For me, British is a geographical fact not an identity. I'm English not British. Fuck them southern union-jack-waving tea-drinking loyalty to the royalty fucking cunts. No send but it's mainly southern people on that overly nationalistic fucking "British" god save the queen shit. Fucking cunts.
Wouldn't mind Al Qaeda bombing the olympics you know would clear out a load of these cocking shitwanks.

*yes, I spelled this wrong on purpose, you cunts.

[Karim Benzema]

MoneyMan i think your getting ethnicity and citizenship messed up with Nationality. trust me bruv since i could remember ppl have tried to tell me what they think i am e.g british, asian, indian. but on paper and in my blood i am french mauritian. the amount of people who dont know what mauritius where mauritius is or better yet think they know what i am more then me (remember one prick saying mauritius is in asia so i am asian :dead:. its annoying

DTR trust me it is so bufffff.
the beaches >>>>>
the bitches >>>>>
perfect holiday tbh... couldn't live there though, i always get bored after more then 3 weeks been 3 times in my life plan to go again soon

Croissant Cunt i cant sleep ./......so hyped

[Waheed]

Yet another person thinking that simply being born in Britain makes you British.

Nationality can be chosen if the circumstances allow. Joanna Lumley was born in India FFS, and none of you lot would dare call her Indian.

People who tend not to have those circumstances, always tend to be the ones sniping. Maybe it's jealousy...

lol I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.....but Amp's nationality is British because he was born here, but ethnically he is Mauritian.

His father's nationality is french but ethnically he is mauritian. His mother is Mauritian but has adopted French nationality because she has lived there a long time.

AMP was born here and spent his life here therefore he is British nationality and Mauritian ethnically.....

I say he is British like the rest of us because alot us were born here but are not ethnically white english......


I don't see why thats so hard to understand mate?

[Clive Eboue]

not on paper im not legally i have to say im french in all forms

if france go to war with england i have to go on frances side lol

Wise choice, waving a white flag is far from taxing.


IMO, Nationality should be a concrete fact and something which cannot be picked and choosed.*

You are only born once, in one place, that is something you cannot change so that should be your nationality. People fight over all these things like nationality, ethnicity and various other things which make up their own identities and sense of self but if everyone just accepted that they can't change any of these things then imo there would be less trouble.

For me, British is a geographical fact not an identity. I'm English not British. Fuck them southern union-jack-waving tea-drinking loyalty to the royalty fucking cunts. No send but it's mainly southern people on that overly nationalistic fucking "British" god save the queen shit. Fucking cunts.
Wouldn't mind Al Qaeda bombing the olympics you know would clear out a load of these cocking shitwanks.

*yes, I spelled this wrong on purpose, you cunts.

In 22 years of living in London I have NEVER come across one person who is passionate about royalty lol. Where do you get this gas from, you've probably never been down South. I can imagine someone trying to explain the concept of an oyster card to you and your slack jawline and you just spontaneously combusting on the spot.

[Karim Benzema]

lol I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.....but Amp's nationality is British because he was born here, but ethnically he is Mauritian.

His father's nationality is french but ethnically he is mauritian. His mother is Mauritian but has adopted French nationality because she has lived there a long time.

AMP was born here and spent his life here therefore he is British nationality and Mauritian ethnically.....

I say he is British like the rest of us because alot us were born here but are not ethnically white english......


I don't see why thats so hard to understand mate?

your mixing nationality with citzen

educate yourself pls

i am a EU citizen meaning i can live in the UK

[Waheed]

lol its ok bro you support whoever you want mate, I don't even fucking care I just enjoy the debate.

We all know ur british like the rest of us :laugh:

[Romelu Lukaku]

Still haven't managed to sleep :laugh:

[Matt91]

IMO, Nationality should be a concrete fact and something which cannot be picked and choosed.*

You are only born once, in one place, that is something you cannot change so that should be your nationality. People fight over all these things like nationality, ethnicity and various other things which make up their own identities and sense of self but if everyone just accepted that they can't change any of these things then imo there would be less trouble.

For me, British is a geographical fact not an identity. I'm English not British. Fuck them southern union-jack-waving tea-drinking loyalty to the royalty fucking cunts. No send but it's mainly southern people on that overly nationalistic fucking "British" god save the queen shit. Fucking cunts.
Wouldn't mind Al Qaeda bombing the olympics you know would clear out a load of these cocking shitwanks.

*yes, I spelled this wrong on purpose, you cunts.
Where do I start? Yeah let's get some terrorist to bomb the Olympics fucking hilarious that :dead: Jesus Christ can't believe u actually said that

[Romelu Lukaku]

Can confirm no sleep was had! Pro plus ting today!

[The Messiah]

IMO, Nationality should be a concrete fact and something which cannot be picked and choosed.*

You are only born once, in one place, that is something you cannot change so that should be your nationality. People fight over all these things like nationality, ethnicity and various other things which make up their own identities and sense of self but if everyone just accepted that they can't change any of these things then imo there would be less trouble.

I disagree with you, but your point is fair enough.

Unfortunately I feel there would be trouble with the child of English parents who was born in Malaysia because their parents were working out there at the time. Why can't they have the same nationality as their parents, if they feel that they have no ties to Malaysia and were there for only the first 6 months of their life?

That's just one example where your system would be particularly unfair on someone.

[quality]

I disagree with you, but your point is fair enough.

Unfortunately I feel there would be trouble with the child of English parents who was born in Malaysia because their parents were working out there at the time. Why can't they have the same nationality as their parents, if they feel that they have no ties to Malaysia and were there for only the first 6 months of their life?

That's just one example where your system would be particularly unfair on someone.

.

This is spot on tbh. I have dual nationality, two passports etc, I'm the first English born person in my immediate family. For the record I consider myself English broadly (though am not really big on nationalism), but know people in the same situation who don't and that's there prerogative.

[Parrr]

not long till we get battered boys

[Naruto]

if oxlade n theo r starting i will bet on them

[Romelu Lukaku]

if oxlade n theo r starting i will bet on them

99% sure it's Milner and Downing bro.

[Naruto]

would like to see

young--welbeck--oxlade
------gerrard----
---milner--parker

will NOT bet on england if carrol and/or downing starts

[quality]

99% sure it's Milner and Downing bro.

.

Seems stupid to not put Walcott vs Evra given his form, with Milner on the left, but Roy's England are all about 'shape'.

Hope England get knocked out first round tbh, they'll stink up the tournament.

[M.O.G.]

Not touching this bet, France hold no fears for me though tbh.
Only two that really bother me in the tournament are Spain and Germany, reckon we can spin the rest.

[quality]

Pirlo and Iniesta are all well and good, but I'm sick of that fancy stuff. Can't wait till 5pm for some proper football - Scott Parker's last ditch tackles, Gerrard spraying the ball to touch, Milner passing side ways, Downing not beating a man. COME ON ENGLAND.

[M.O.G.]

Pirlo and Iniesta are all well and good, but I'm sick of that fancy stuff. Can't wait till 5pm for some proper football - Scott Parker's last ditch tackles, Gerrard spraying the ball to touch, Milner passing side ways, Downing not beating a man. COME ON ENGLAND.

Haha, well, we could have corner flag Walcott running in a straight line then clocking he lost the ball 3 minutes before, Jordan Henderson passing 3 yards and making runs without looking and falling over for no reason and the prolific international striker Danny Welbeck playing.

[Naruto]

welbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrol

by a mile

fuck any1 who disagrees BMT.

[6]

all in on andy carrol to score

[M.O.G.]

welbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrol

by a mile

fuck any1 who disagrees BMT.

Completely different style of striker.

[6]

welbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrol

by a mile

fuck any1 who disagrees BMT.

who is gonna disagree really


oh wait now it's england have the media managed to convince people that carroll isn't that bad? I did notice a little debate before the italy spain match yesterday

90% of football fans are fucking sheep I swear

[Unknown. Poster]

ffs 10K on England and 15K on Benzema to score

[Naruto]

Completely different style of striker.

i couldnt give a flying fuck lol the guy is absolutely terrible he done 1 slow motion skill n it worked n he scored n now he's decent?

he's mediocre at the very very best the guy is terrible 99% of the time ive seen him play. i watched him heavily throughout my whole time in jail and before that too, he plays bare deep, especially when liverpool are on the defence n he's the only man at the halfway line, he gets it n he's just got nothing to his game whatsoever. he has a decent header that's all nothing else so so shit cant express my dislike for this guy if he was any other nationality mans would air him out. fuck the media. would rather have walcott/defoe/crouch/holt/bent upfront come at me bros

[Unknown. Poster]

lol

[Mr. Jefferies]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4365562/Show-em-no-merci-We-beam-England-flag-on-Paris-icons-the-Eiffel-Tower-and-Arc-de-Triomphe-ahead-of-France-v-England-at-the-Euros.html

Bunch of world class bell-ends. "Let's go and wind-up France' players so they're fired up before a crucial game!"

They sound dead proud of it as well, embarrassing.

English press <<<<<

[Shower Posse]

Completely different style of striker.

So.....Caroll is still shit





Apparently Ox and Welbeck are starting

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[quality]

Apparently Ox and Welbeck are starting

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Where you see that? Heard its Milner and Downing on the wings.

[Karim Benzema]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4365562/Show-em-no-merci-We-beam-England-flag-on-Paris-icons-the-Eiffel-Tower-and-Arc-de-Triomphe-ahead-of-France-v-England-at-the-Euros.html

Bunch of world class bell-ends. "Let's go and wind-up France' players so they're fired up before a crucial game!"

They sound dead proud of it as well, embarrassing.

English press <<<<<

thats bare disrespectful



the way english fans would get all vexed and racist if the french flag was beemed on the big ben <<<<<<


smh some ppl

[Unknown. Poster]

it's not disrespectful, it's not funny and it's not going to wind anyone one up


It's just completely fucking stupid

>>>>>>>the sun

[M.O.G.]

So.....Caroll is still shit





Apparently Ox and Welbeck are starting

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Anyone who calls Carroll 'shit' is clueless, last 10 games of the season he showed what he's all about, bullying opposition defenses like they were nothing.
He is nowhere near shit (not saying he's a world beater by any means)

[Karim Benzema]

it's not disrespectful, it's not funny and it's not going to wind anyone one up


It's just completely fucking stupid

>>>>>>>the sun

the arc de trimphe is a war memorial


its disrespectful



Anyone who calls Carroll 'shit' is clueless, last 10 games of the season he showed what he's all about, bullying opposition defenses like they were nothing.
He is nowhere near shit (not saying he's a world beater by any means)

:stunned: lol what games

[Naruto]

wefjiewofnerwifnewof

wtf am i reading

"bullying defences like dey were nothing" loooooooooooooooool

he couldnt bully his crippled nan r/s

guy is shit beyond shit

[The Messiah]

I swear down, if this Ribery anytime goalscorer bet (4/1) isn't sorted there will be some shit going down this evening. It's been 36 hours since I first asked.

BIGDON Hij Deset.

[Mr. Jefferies]

thats bare disrespectful



the way english fans would get all vexed and racist if the french flag was beemed on the big ben <<<<<<


smh some ppl

They didn't break any laws.


it's not disrespectful, it's not funny and it's not going to wind anyone one up


It's just completely fucking stupid

>>>>>>>the sun

I agree it won't wind anyone up, I was being a bit sarcastic but I can imagine them sn1ggering like little kids in their offices thinking they're hilarious.


I swear down, if this Ribery anytime goalscorer bet (4/1) isn't sorted there will be some shit going down this evening. It's been 36 hours since I first asked.

You do realise you can make your own thread with one market just with Ribery to score, take the odds from William Hill then put your bet on and pay it out accordingly.

[Waheed]

Anyone who calls Carroll 'shit' is clueless, last 10 games of the season he showed what he's all about, bullying opposition defenses like they were nothing.
He is nowhere near shit (not saying he's a world beater by any means)

He had 1 or 2 OK games at the end of the season, the other 20+ games he started hes been shit.

And you know it.......you cheeky cunt.

[The Messiah]

I thought all new vbookie events had been suspended for the Euros? If I could I would, but I want things to be done properly and limit cries of corruption if Ribery does score.

I'll check again at 4pm, and do that myself if it hasn't been added to this one.

[Sosa]

heard ox is starting aswell


in woy we twust

[Waheed]

thats bare disrespectful



the way english fans would get all vexed and racist if the french flag was beemed on the big ben <<<<<<


smh some ppl

lol its just a larf mate

[chris89]

heard ox is starting aswell


in woy we twust

can confiwm

[Rambo]

the arc de trimphe is a war memorial


its disrespectful




:stunned: lol what games

should have this instead

http://www.clch.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wve-white-flag-260.jpg

[Hij]

welbeck >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrol

by a mile

fuck any1 who disagrees BMT.

I thought Carroll would do well against Mexes and supply some second balls.

England need that awesome goal again ala Young or Welbeck or we are fucked.

More money on France tbh

[Sosa]

I swear down, if this Ribery anytime goalscorer bet (4/1) isn't sorted there will be some shit going down this evening. It's been 36 hours since I first asked.

BIGDON Hij Deset.

change carrol for aoc aswell


go go go

[iKlozzle]

Never rated Carroll, even when he was at Newcastle.

He had a good first half to the season (at Newcastle this is), none of his work was special though and he certainly didn't warrant spending £35m on that's for sure.

He's not shit, but if we're really gonna do this on form, Grant Holt is a similar kinda player and he had a much stronger season, why not take him?

If Stewart Downing or Carroll are anywhere near that first 11, something is wrong. That's no hate on Liverpool, I just think based on this season, they shouldn't be in that squad.

[Waheed]

Lettuce be reality.

Carroll is a donkey.

[Hij]

i couldnt give a flying fuck lol the guy is absolutely terrible he done 1 slow motion skill n it worked n he scored n now he's decent?

he's mediocre at the very very best the guy is terrible 99% of the time ive seen him play. i watched him heavily throughout my whole time in jail and before that too, he plays bare deep, especially when liverpool are on the defence n he's the only man at the halfway line, he gets it n he's just got nothing to his game whatsoever. he has a decent header that's all nothing else so so shit cant express my dislike for this guy if he was any other nationality mans would air him out. fuck the media. would rather have walcott/defoe/crouch/holt/bent upfront come at me bros

You watched him heavily in jail lmao

We weren't in Europe and there is only match of the day lmao

[Hij]

To be fair if he's gonna be as isolated as he was against Norway I'm glad he's not playing .

Stop looking at the fee though he didn't choose that. If he cost £2 would it be different

[Scrappy123]

I swear down, if this Ribery anytime goalscorer bet (4/1) isn't sorted there will be some shit going down this evening. It's been 36 hours since I first asked.

BIGDON Hij Deset.

4/1?

Mad odds. Might put 20 on it.

[Hij]

Agree with Downing being dropped for Ox though

[Naruto]

You watched him heavily in jail lmao

We weren't in Europe and there is only match of the day lmao

can confirm FA cup carling cup matches were all shown live

btw The Messiah ribbery to score any time odds are 10/3 dont try it about 4/1

[kilik]

why you talking like downing should ever be in the starting 11?

dont really have faith in england so wont bet. got a feeling hodgson will play for a draw

[Waheed]

Stop looking at the fee though he didn't choose that. If he cost £2 would it be different

Hmmmmm debatable still.

[Hij]

can confirm FA cup carling cup matches were all shown live

btw The Messiah ribbery to score any time odds are 10/3 dont try it about 4/1

So you will have seen him score in the semi and score in the final? And he scored an excellent last minute winner against Blackburn and all round hold up play improved massively with everything sticking to him .

He is not as crap as he is made out to be

He had a poor first half of the season definitely

[The Messiah]

4/1?

Mad odds. Might put 20 on it.

If I could get to a bookies I'd do the same.

[Hij]

why you talking like downing should ever be in the starting 11?

dont really have faith in england so wont bet. got a feeling hodgson will play for a draw
Because that's exactly what I said

[Naruto]

So you will have seen him score in the semi and score in the final? And he scored an excellent last minute winner against Blackburn and all round hold up play improved massively with everything sticking to him .

He is not as crap as he is made out to be

i also saw him play deep, hold up the ball upon the clearance and then try run n get tackled, try do skill get tackled.

guess we'll just have to agree to disagree bro cos i really cant stand the guy lol think he is a fraud like i said id rather have walcott/holt/crouch/defoe/bent/agbonlahor upfront lol

[Hij]

Hmmmmm debatable still.

Lol fuck off

[Naruto]

If I could get to a bookies I'd do the same.

the odds are 10/3 any time dont try it bro

[Hij]

i also saw him play deep, hold up the ball upon the clearance and then try run n get tackled, try do skill get tackled.

guess we'll just have to agree to disagree bro cos i really cant stand the guy lol think he is a fraud like i said id rather have walcott/holt/crouch/defoe/bent/agbonlahor upfront lol

But he's younger than all of them bar Walcott and surely it will be good to blood a very young hold up striker as most come good from 26 onwards

[Hij]

I predict two banks of four and ceding of possession .

[Unknown. Poster]

4 or 5 good games... worth 35 Million

Worst record in 2012... Saviour of Liverpool

Get off his back for cheating... Dives every game




fucking media ruining all the good english players, how dare they

[CatchACat]

InB4Milner Does a Job and guys get hyped.

Is a sick player have always rated him and Young since they were together at Villa, even Milner when he first joined Mewcastle

[Hij]

4 or 5 good games... worth 35 Million

Worst record in 2012... Saviour of Liverpool

Get off his back for cheating... Dives every game




fucking media ruining all the good english players, how dare they

Lol what mate? He wasn't the saviour of Liverpool, no one was. I've seen him dive once.

You thick cunt.

[Waheed]

4 or 5 good games... worth 35 Million

Worst record in 2012... Saviour of Liverpool

Get off his back for cheating... Dives every game




fucking media ruining all the good english players, how dare they

:laugh:

[Unknown. Poster]

lol

ftr I meant kenny in the second one and Suarez in the third bit

lulz

[Hij]

InB4Milner Does a Job and guys get hyped.

Is a sick player have always rated him and Young since they were together at Villa, even Milner when he first joined Mewcastle

I rate Milner tbh .

[Karim Benzema]

so hyped

3 hrs left bros!!




should have this instead

http://www.clch.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wve-white-flag-260.jpg

:dead:




:laugh::laugh:

[Naruto]

Lol what mate? He wasn't the saviour of Liverpool, no one was. I've seen him dive once.

You thick cunt.

:laugh::laugh:

lool >>>>>

[Hij]

I forget where I am sometimes. Brb when the game starts

[quality]

I predict two banks of four and ceding of possession .

My question answered by your favourite Guardian journalist.

quality87 asks: Is there any suggestion whatsoever that Roy Hodgson will employ any sort of tactical flexibility at this tournament, or should we expect two rigid banks of four and surrendering the ball continually? Also are Downing and Milner certs to start versus France? Danny responds:

Everything so far has been geared towards a fairly rigid 4-4-2. Personally, I think it's a bit outdated and can be found out against top opposition. Gary Neville is also on record, before joining the coaching staff, saying it's too inflexible but, after a month of working on it, I can't imagine they will suddenly change.

For what it's worth, I'd rather go 4-2-3-1 - but Hodgson has always liked centre-forward partnerships and I'd be surprised if it changed now even when Rooney is back. I'd imagine Young will revert to the left and Rooney would play behind Welbeck, though it looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain now has the chance to establish himself on the left.

[Parrr]

we are gonna get battered, we are gonna get battered, la la la la, la la la la

im jusr saying this so i will feel less bad when we lose, then be ultra gassed if we win

[Karim Benzema]

terSTP1lsLw

remember caroll played well this match


gonna be playing fifa cause i fucking cant wait

[The Messiah]

can confirm FA cup carling cup matches were all shown live

btw The Messiah ribbery to score any time odds are 10/3 dont try it about 4/1

I posted a link to Paddy Power earlier in this thread. The odds were 4/1 last night there and on Betfred also. If they've changed today fair enough but all he more reason I'm getting seriously wound up about my request not being sorted.

[DTR]

I rate Milner tbh .
Same.

I rate Gareth Barry too.

[Clive Eboue]

Come on ingurlunddddddddddddddd

the ox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

let's fackin' av it lads

[quality]

I posted a link to Paddy Power earlier in this thread. The odds were 4/1 last night there and on Betfred also. If they've changed today fair enough but all he more reason I'm getting seriously wound up about my request not being sorted.

Seriously wound up? Its not real money.

[Sosa]

Seriously wound up? Its not real money.

there is a competiton going on , The Messiah wants to spend the 35 quid for 1st prize on a new tie

[The Messiah]

there is a competiton going on , The Messiah wants to spend the 35 quid for 1st prize on a new tie

Exactement!

Fuck this, I'm making my own mini thread for it.

[optimus]

Hart
Jhonson Terry Lescott Cole

Milner Gerrard Parker The Ox

Young

Wellbeck

I am quietly confident about the game think we might nab it

[Karim Benzema]

Exactement!

Fuck this, I'm making my own mini thread for it.

would throw vcash into your thread if i had cash bro

[Parrr]

i think we might win 4-1 tbh

NAAAAAHTTTTTTTTT

[Mr. Jefferies]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/4/30/1335815226547/Roy-Hodgson-leaves-Wemble-008.jpg

This picture is funny as fuck.

[Scrappy123]

Can easily play 4-3-3 with that selection. Nice.

Defense is awful though loowing at it. Racist scumboy needs to have a performance.

[NSF]

We'll win lads, don't sweat it.

[The Messiah]

would throw vcash into your thread if i had cash bro

Here it is. some good odds in there as well: http://www.grimeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?115708-GROUP-D-France-v-England-(11th-June-kick-off-17-00)-ADDENDUM

[M.O.G.]

He had 1 or 2 OK games at the end of the season, the other 20+ games he started hes been shit.

And you know it.......you cheeky cunt.

Fuck off 45, 1 or 2 games my arse...obviously dont watch football

[CatchACat]

England to win 2-1 Terry and the Ox to score with an Early Johnson own goal from a corner

[Rambo]

I'm working :(

[LeBcfc]

I'm working :(

I'm off to the pub:-D

[The Messiah]

This is going to be a draw or an exciting French win...

I can envisage any score line from a 1-0 or 1-1 to a 3-1 or 3-0 to the French. I really don't know where to put my money on this one.

Other than the goalscorers, I think I might join others and sit out on this one.

[quality]

At least Downing is on the bench in case the game needs changed.

[Hij]

At least Downing is on the bench in case the game needs changed.

Yawn.

I can't wait till this is over. There are still 2 more games after this at least.

[Hij]

BTW I haven't argued that Welbeck is any better or worse than Carroll, just that Carroll is a different option.

And M.O.G. is right, for all the hilarity, if you actually watched our last 10 games, Carroll was the man of the match in at least 4 of them. He was every bit the player we hoped we would see for the whole season. Why is it so hard to accept that players can play themselves into form?

We aren't claiming he is the second coming of Jesus Christ for fuck sake.

[quality]

Yawn.


England haven't even started playing yet. If you're sleepy now, you're fucked later.

[Hij]

England haven't even started playing yet. If you're sleepy now, you're fucked later.
I found some awesome stat on Twitter just now, apparently Downing didn't get an assist or a goal in any Premier League game last season?? Mental if true!


My question answered by your favourite Guardian journalist.

quality87 asks: Is there any suggestion whatsoever that Roy Hodgson will employ any sort of tactical flexibility at this tournament, or should we expect two rigid banks of four and surrendering the ball continually? Also are Downing and Milner certs to start versus France? Danny responds:

Everything so far has been geared towards a fairly rigid 4-4-2. Personally, I think it's a bit outdated and can be found out against top opposition. Gary Neville is also on record, before joining the coaching staff, saying it's too inflexible but, after a month of working on it, I can't imagine they will suddenly change.

For what it's worth, I'd rather go 4-2-3-1 - but Hodgson has always liked centre-forward partnerships and I'd be surprised if it changed now even when Rooney is back. I'd imagine Young will revert to the left and Rooney would play behind Welbeck, though it looks like Oxlade-Chamberlain now has the chance to establish himself on the left.


LOOOOL sick your question is exactly what I was thinking. Hold a rep. Who is it Daniel Taylor?

When Hodgson was asked that question (or similar) with us, he referred to his methods translating and listed all the famous clubs he's managed.

[The Messiah]

I found some awesome stat on Twitter just now, apparently Downing didn't get an assist or a goal in any Premier League game last season?? Mental if true!
:laugh::laugh:

[Hij]

"bullying defences like dey were nothing" loooooooooooooooool


To name just one match, there was Chelsea at Anfield who admittedly fielded a weakened team, but he took the piss out of John Terry with a couple of nutmegs, out muscled a lot of their defenders, looked sharp, and Michael Essien had to resort to jumping at him from behind with his studs up to stop an attack. To name one.

[quality]

LOOOOL sick your question is exactly what I was thinking. Hold a rep. Who is it Daniel Taylor?

When Hodgson was asked that question (or similar) with us, he referred to his methods translating and listed all the famous clubs he's managed.

Yeah, Daniel/Danny Taylor.

Tbf, even if I don't find it entertaining at all, I will be impressed if he gets anything out of a Gerrard/Parker midfield and Terry on the right hand side of the defense next to Johnson. For me, there's only two positions that look really solid (Hart and Cole).

[Hij]

Yeah, Daniel/Danny Taylor.

Tbf, even if I don't find it entertaining at all, I will be impressed if he gets anything out of a Gerrard/Parker midfield and Terry on the right hand side of the defense next to Johnson. For me, there's only two positions that look really solid (Hart and Cole).

Why is Terry on the right hand side of defence, isn't that where he played against Germany? :-D. To be fair to Hodgson, unlike with us, I think maybe his tactics will be more effective for England than they were for Liverpool. But I think Welbeck might actually be a better choice because quite often there is no-one there for Carroll to win the ball for, and in the second half against Norway he had 20 yards of space around him at times and the ball was hit long to the left touchline and he's in the middle of the pitch like wtf. Welbeck at least has pace and can join Young in a foray if we get the ball off them at any point.

The Messiah - let me try something as I can edit my account now

[Shower Posse]

Where you see that? Heard its Milner and Downing on the wings.

Sky news bro


Where you see that? Heard its Milner and Downing on the wings.


Anyone who calls Carroll 'shit' is clueless, last 10 games of the season he showed what he's all about, bullying opposition defenses like they were nothing.
He is nowhere near shit (not saying he's a world beater by any means)



:dozey:

[Hij]

Nah I can't edit the vBookie. Weird. I think only the thread creator can. But then Messiah managed to close betting the other day?




:dozey:

2nd game. Comes off the bench against Chelsea in the FA Cup final. Scores an awesome goal after out powering the defence, wins loads of balls in the air and absolutely everything is sticking to him. Tees Gerrard up for several out of the box chances (but Gerrard skys them) and then after a Suarez dink powers a header towards goal which requires Cech to pull off an awesome save. Carroll, the guy laughed at all season coming so close to almost being a Steven Gerrard type of saviour for Liverpool. Managed to be the man of the match for Liverpool playing less than a third of the game.

Seeing as MOG mentioned 10 games, how many did you all watch? I'm convinced some of you don't actually watch football beyond Match of the Day and formulating your opinion based on your peers opinions.

I'm as biased as they come, but he's 23, and ever since the dive at Newcastle and getting booed off he was our best player for the rest of the season. I know that doesn't count for much as we were pretty awful but I feel he earned his call up in the last few games.

[Sean]

So many people have lost all there Vcash already lol i forgot about the threads starting late game on people!

[Hij]

I want to stick more on France but then if we draw/win I guess I will be mildly happy but pissed of because I lost so much vCash.

[iKlozzle]

I want to stick more on France but then if we draw/win I guess I will be mildly happy but pissed of because I lost so much vCash.

Lol, I had similar dilemma last season

I had Kompany, Toure, Dzeko and Aguero in my dream team, so whenever they scored I was like shit but oh well at least my dream team is doing well. My mates thought I was an idiot.

[Mr. Jefferies]

Lol, I had similar dilemma last season

I had Kompany, Toure, Dzeko and Aguero in my dream team, so whenever they scored I was like shit but oh well at least my dream team is doing well. My mates thought I was an idiot.

What was at stake in the Dream Team?

[Parrr]

Andy Caroll would probably do a better shift playing prop for our rugby side

[Naruto]

ive got £25 on the france win, £5 on ribery 1st goalscorer n £5 on benzema to score n france to win @ 5/1

[Hij]

Ok I've gone for it.

If England win it's peak for me.

But let's face it, we're shite and the odds are inflated on the draw and on France because everyone bets on England.

The Wet Dog - inb4 one of Downing, Carroll, Kelly does me proud and somehow nets the winner.

[Karim Benzema]

just put a extra £25 on france making it £75 on the win

i am shitting it

[Naruto]

england wont win hij dw bro

BIGDON whats the lineup bro